Duck Dynasty Controversy - Comment #1,169,811

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Nevar00
Nevar00

in reply to Darknevoir

Yeah funny how so many forget it’s a two-way street eh. Others have the right to respond to what he says, including his employer. I know I can leave work one day, tell everyone outside not to go in there and then cry about “muh freedums” when I wind up fired.

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Xsdob
Xsdob

in reply to Darknevoir

So pretty much you can say whatever you want, but if its something I don’t agree with I can get your fired from your job and ostricized just because I don’t agree with it, and that still counts as a “freedom”? Sounds like a big ass catch 22 if I ever heard one.

So the next time someone says they believe the bible isn’t real and that homosexuality is great, they should be fired, because some people don’t agree with that, and it’ll be a-okay then.

It is a two-way street. If you are going to protect someones right to say something and not face punishment for stating those beliefs and harming no one when it’s something you like, you have to do so when its someone you don’t like at all.

Otherwise there isn’t a freedom, just favoritism and blanketed oppression of everyone, because no one can say what they want without fear of being punished for “offending” another group.

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Nevar00
Nevar00

in reply to Xsdob

His rights were protected. He wasn’t arrested. That’s it.

You can get fired if it’s something that could affect your job, yes. Him being famous means A&E could see it as he should be representing their company in interviews. As for everyone calling him a moron for what he said (gross oversimplification here, to be honest I don’t even think what he said was that bad but let’s just use a random generalization for the argument), again, everyone else has a right to say what they think about him. You can’t go around saying stupid stuff and cry freedom of speech when someone calls you stupid… because they have that “right” as well.

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Xsdob
Xsdob

in reply to Nevar00

So you don’t think someone being fired because of a religious belief counts as violating someones freedom of speech? When did corporations not have to obey the rights of this countries constitution and still be allowed to legally operate within its boarders?

Call him a moron, call him a bigot, call him a bigot and a backwards tard, that’s your right to free speech, to say things and not face punishment for simply making a verbal or written statement.

Do you not realize that he was pretty much banned from interacting with his family on a regular basis if they continue the show? Shooting takes a lot of time, and his suspension means he can’t be anywhere near where they are filming legally.

Beyond that is that yes, you can criticize him because that is your right. But just like I wouldn’t want to be suddenly fired, or suspended, or have my pay docked, or face a punishment for criticizing someone and making a statement that has nothing to do with my work or job, I don’t want that to happen to the people who say things I criticize.

I honestly can’t understand how it is difficult for people to grasp that there is a difference between criticizing something, and outright banning it and punishing anyone who says or does something that might be offensive.

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Twee
Twee

in reply to Xsdob

>fired because of a religious belief

He wasn’t fired because of a religious belief, he was fired because he publicly aired comments that they felt reflected badly on their company. He could have held that belief in private and this never would’ve happened.

>When did corporations not have to obey the rights of this countries constitution

The rights of the country’s constitution is that you can say what you like without the government arresting you. Since the corporation isn’t the government, nor is it arresting him, what it’s doing is perfectly within the constitution.

>not face punishment

It’s not a punishment, it’s a business decision. Obviously A&E thought it would be against their business interests for him to continue to work for them after his comments.

>he was pretty much banned from interacting with his family on a regular basis

That’s not their problem; employers aren’t obligated to give people as much time with their family as possible.

>I don’t want that to happen to the people who say things I criticize

Sure, but that’s got nothing to do with free speech, that’s just a disagreement with A&E’s decision. Free speech doesn’t mean they can’t make that decision even if you disagree with it.

>banning it

They didn’t ban it – he’s free to continue saying it whenever he likes, just not under their payroll.

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