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Last posted Jul 10, 2014 at 10:35PM EDT. Added Jul 08, 2012 at 08:44PM EDT
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Well screw that! I’m still adding her!

Jul 09, 2012 at 04:29PM EDT

I’m sorry if I hadn’t added the rest of the mods. either I don’t know them or actually seen them to make a comparison of what pokemon they might but i’ll just wait till I seem them.

Cyber6x:

Jack Candle:

Mister J:

Jul 09, 2012 at 04:42PM EDT

You know, that Mightyena is supposed to be a hyena, though it does kinda look like a wolf, but I wonder what kinda hyena it’s supposed to be based on.

Jul 09, 2012 at 04:44PM EDT
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@Sketch

Hmm…. Interesting question.

Jul 09, 2012 at 04:46PM EDT

Ok, new topic. This is getting out of hand.

What are your expectations on B&W 2?

Jul 09, 2012 at 04:59PM EDT
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Mexx Android wrote:

@Sketch

Hmm…. Interesting question.

I think it might be based on a striped hyena.

As for Random’s question, my expectations are that I hope it keeps the improvements that B/W 1 did such as infinite TMs, people that heal you so you don’t have to trudge all the way back to a Pokemon Center and no unnecessary uses of HM moves so you don’t have to waste move slots or Pokemon slots on an HM slave.

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Jul 09, 2012 at 05:05PM EDT
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RandomMan wrote:

Ok, new topic. This is getting out of hand.

What are your expectations on B&W 2?

I love spoilers, so I know most the story all ready. I won’t spoil it for anyone but there are definately some big changes (At least when you compare it to things like Diamond and Pearl compared to Platinum) I expect that the other changes will be equally as big.

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Jul 09, 2012 at 05:07PM EDT
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Random 21 wrote:

I love spoilers, so I know most the story all ready. I won’t spoil it for anyone but there are definately some big changes (At least when you compare it to things like Diamond and Pearl compared to Platinum) I expect that the other changes will be equally as big.

Platinum was just one of those third game things like Yellow, Emerald and such. Black and White 2 are full fledged sequels.

Jul 09, 2012 at 05:11PM EDT
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Ashki wrote:

Platinum was just one of those third game things like Yellow, Emerald and such. Black and White 2 are full fledged sequels.

That was what I was trying to say. Instead of making a replica of the originals with a slightly tweaked storyline, they went for a full out new concept

Jul 09, 2012 at 05:15PM EDT
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Random 21 wrote:

That was what I was trying to say. Instead of making a replica of the originals with a slightly tweaked storyline, they went for a full out new concept

Yep, kinda glad as well since Team Plasma dropped the PETAish deal and went straight into what they were trying to do, take over.

Jul 09, 2012 at 05:19PM EDT
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Random 21 wrote:

That was what I was trying to say. Instead of making a replica of the originals with a slightly tweaked storyline, they went for a full out new concept

I was planning to buy Black or White 1, but with 2 getting closer and closer I decided to not buy it and just wait a bit longer. Can’t say if it was a good idea or not based on how it’s somewhat of a sequel. But the changes I heard the game is getting surely make me excited about it.

And let’s not forget the female protagonist.

Those fucking buns man!

It’s like they’re hypnotising me!

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Jul 09, 2012 at 05:21PM EDT
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Lol, Princess Leia if she were a Pokemon character.

Also Random, I’d recommend getting either Black or White 1 though before B/W 2, cause yeah, other then the improvements over the previous gens, it is a sequel and you’ll probably be asking “wht?” when you come across things that are mentioned but you’ll not know what’s going on because of it.

….or something like that.

Jul 09, 2012 at 05:23PM EDT
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Ashki wrote:

Lol, Princess Leia if she were a Pokemon character.

Also Random, I’d recommend getting either Black or White 1 though before B/W 2, cause yeah, other then the improvements over the previous gens, it is a sequel and you’ll probably be asking “wht?” when you come across things that are mentioned but you’ll not know what’s going on because of it.

….or something like that.

I think I’ll just watch a walkthrough of it sometimes and skip straight to all the major plot points.

Jul 09, 2012 at 05:31PM EDT
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Ashki wrote:

Lol, Princess Leia if she were a Pokemon character.

Also Random, I’d recommend getting either Black or White 1 though before B/W 2, cause yeah, other then the improvements over the previous gens, it is a sequel and you’ll probably be asking “wht?” when you come across things that are mentioned but you’ll not know what’s going on because of it.

….or something like that.

I have got the original 2 actually, And have beat the main game. Judging by what I have seen from this one, it is heavily based on the original Black and White.
P.S. is it odd that thee changes to the map get me excited?

EDIT: By the looks of things, you will have to battle the new Champion and not just the villain like last time.

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Jul 09, 2012 at 05:39PM EDT
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Random 21 wrote:

I have got the original 2 actually, And have beat the main game. Judging by what I have seen from this one, it is heavily based on the original Black and White.
P.S. is it odd that thee changes to the map get me excited?

EDIT: By the looks of things, you will have to battle the new Champion and not just the villain like last time.

I do as well. I’ve beaten Black, and I’m trying to work on White, hopefully before Black/White 2 come out.

And the villains are still there, obviously, but I don’t want to spoil when you fight them for those who plan on getting the games and who don’t want spoilers.

Also, unlike the musicals, I’m really looking foward to the PokeStar stuff, and there /might/ be spoilers in this video, but I’m not sure.

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Jul 09, 2012 at 05:46PM EDT
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Ashki wrote:

I do as well. I’ve beaten Black, and I’m trying to work on White, hopefully before Black/White 2 come out.

And the villains are still there, obviously, but I don’t want to spoil when you fight them for those who plan on getting the games and who don’t want spoilers.

Also, unlike the musicals, I’m really looking foward to the PokeStar stuff, and there /might/ be spoilers in this video, but I’m not sure.

I absolutely hated the musicals, they made me want to go back to my diamond version to enter more pokemon contests. The Pokestar stuff looks cool if not…. random.

Oh and I’m just going to leave this here, because I can:

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Jul 09, 2012 at 06:13PM EDT
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A lot of the PokeStar will make more sense when it’s used properly and not just hacked in like it was in that video.

Jul 09, 2012 at 06:29PM EDT
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Heh, that comic reminds me of Joey and his top percentage of Rattata that he’d call and talk to you about in the most inapproprite places.

Though to be fair to Bidoof, it does make a good HM slave so you don’t have to waste HMs on decent Pokemon.

Oh HMs, how I hate you.

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Jul 09, 2012 at 10:00PM EDT
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Joe Amethyst wrote:

I just realized that you can see her underwear in the second panel.

Joe right now:

Jul 09, 2012 at 10:37PM EDT
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RandomMan wrote:

Ok, new topic. This is getting out of hand.

What are your expectations on B&W 2?

I’m actually playing it right now through less than respectable means because I am quite proficient in the japanese language and legally imported the game online.

possible minor spoliers ahead
To be honest, I was pleasantly surprised. From the short 20 hours I’ve played it so far (well maybe not short), I’ve actually felt like this game was almost not redundant and unnecessary. It’s actually a true sequel to the first games, instead of that cash grab third game Nintendo always makes to rake in the cash. It seems that the Unova region really has changed since BW. I mean, it’s only been 2 years, and yet, it feels so different. You start out in a different town, the gyms are different, the cities are different, the wild pokemon are different, and even the things that stay around from the previous games (like the Desert Resort and Nimbasa City) feel different. They’re actually quite small changes in retrospect, but they somehow give it a feel of fresh new game, even when it really isn’t.

It feels a bit more refined than the original Black and White, while sticking to the tried and true “catch em all and get eight badges” formula that almost never gets stale for some reason. I especially like the inclusion of previous generation pokemon right from the start. It’s refreshing, and they made pretty great choices about what to include. Brings back a lot of memories of my older teams from the previous pokemon games.

I don’t know why I particularly like these new games. I’ve played White, although I never did bother beating the Elite Four. It’s really most of the same stuff, and it’s not like they’ve done anything majorly different from this installment of the never-ending pokemon games they put out every few years that I keep buying. It might be the slight air of familiarity mixed with the new, or should I say old, pokemon that they’ve included, or maybe it’s something else. I didn’t particularly care for White, which is why I was too lazy to beat it, but this time, it feels different. I guess Black and White 2 really delve into the archives of all the pokemon they’ve ever created in these past 15 years or something, and it feels like a culmination of the entire adventure we’ve had so far with these little animal creatures we call pokemon.

(this post brought to you by a slightly drunk girl typing at 1:40 AM because of insomnia)

Jul 10, 2012 at 04:40AM EDT
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The Frosty Lich wrote:

D-O-G-A-R-S



They’re singing about Koffing btw.

Yep, hopefully they won’t edit the song when they translate it, cause the song is pretty good, and I don’t see how they could change it to Koffing since that’s a lot longer then Dogars, even thought I do prefer the American name.

Jul 10, 2012 at 11:19AM EDT
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Ashki wrote:

Yep, hopefully they won’t edit the song when they translate it, cause the song is pretty good, and I don’t see how they could change it to Koffing since that’s a lot longer then Dogars, even thought I do prefer the American name.

Maybe they can have the “Champ in the making” guy say “By, the way, I heard Dogars is Koffing’s nickname in a far away place” or something like that.

Jul 10, 2012 at 02:03PM EDT
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The Frosty Lich wrote:

D-O-G-A-R-S



They’re singing about Koffing btw.

There are a lot of tunes with singers in them:

btw, Not sure how Elesa’s gym got from a roller coaster to a catwalk.

also:
THESE EPIC REMIXES!

TEH EPICNESS JUST GOT TEH EPIC-ER

Jul 10, 2012 at 02:49PM EDT
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B2/W2 is coming to the U.S. on October 7th, 2012.


Jul 10, 2012 at 03:17PM EDT
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Yep, an annoying 3 month wait. Translations, Y U have to take so long?! Also…

Black Kyurem is totally boss, this is why my first version will be Black 2.

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Jul 10, 2012 at 03:20PM EDT
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Anako wrote:

B2/W2 is coming to the U.S. on October 7th, 2012.


And the 4th for europe

Jul 10, 2012 at 03:23PM EDT
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There is something else that bothers me about these series, well, about the games that have the GTS. Troll trades and having to see a Pokemon you want before you’re able to trade for them.

Why, just why? How am I supposed to get that Vullaby when I can’t find a trainer who has one in their party.

And don’t get me started on the troll trades. Man, I do wish they’d overhaul the GTS.

Jul 10, 2012 at 10:57PM EDT
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GUYS

SERIOUSLY

WE HAVE SPOILER BUTTONS FOR A REASON

NOW I’M GOING TO HAVE TO AVOID THIS THREAD LIKE I AVOIDED THE KORRA GENERAL THREAD

Jul 10, 2012 at 11:04PM EDT
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Teh Brawler wrote:

GUYS

SERIOUSLY

WE HAVE SPOILER BUTTONS FOR A REASON

NOW I’M GOING TO HAVE TO AVOID THIS THREAD LIKE I AVOIDED THE KORRA GENERAL THREAD

Sorry, but like most features of the forum, the spoiler button eludes me on it’s use. In other words, I don’t know how to use it and it wasn’t listed on the textile link there.

Jul 10, 2012 at 11:14PM EDT
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Gonna continue this thread with an Espeon plushy I found on /vp/.

Person who made it

Speaking of toys, what kind of Pokemon-related items do any of you guys own?

Jul 11, 2012 at 11:19PM EDT
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I have a few of those little figures. They’re about the size of say, the MLP blindbags, and a few of them came with badges.

I don’t think they’re sold anywhere anymore unfortunately.

Jul 11, 2012 at 11:29PM EDT
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I have a bunch of the Jakks Pacific figures, they’re really my brother’s but I really like looking at certain ones, mainly Azelf, Riolu, Zorua, and Snivy. I really want them to make an Emolga one.

Jul 12, 2012 at 12:06AM EDT
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We can’t have a pokemon thread without posting this

as for merchandise, I have a load of rare cards (I got rid of most of my normals)

Jul 12, 2012 at 01:57AM EDT
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Random 21 wrote:

Why do i have a feeling that this is slightly racist?

Jul 12, 2012 at 01:55PM EDT

Oh we talking about Pokemon and racism now? Can’t forget the ultimate BSer when it comes to that.

Of course Jynx didn’t always look like that, but people in this day and age freak out over the littlest thing, so Jynx now looks like this.

Bah, that and the stupid changes to Heart Gold and Soul Silver’s game corner. Voltorb Flip, I hate you so much.

Jul 12, 2012 at 03:18PM EDT
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God people get so worked up about this stuff, I mean, listen to this:

  • Jinx made purple because “Black is racist”
  • Casino involves gambling, which is illegal
  • In the anime, Lenora had to have her apron taken off, because it refers to a mammy archetype
  • A card named Koga’s card trick, apparently had a left-facing swastika
  • In one episode, Team rocket raise their hands in a similar fasion to Hitler salute
  • In a registeel sprite, it raises it’s hand like hitler salute
  • Just read this: " Some outspoken, fundamentalist Muslims claimed that Pokémon is a Jewish conspiracy that is intended to brainwash Muslim children to make them renounce their faith. These same groups claimed that the word “Pokémon” is a phrase that means “I am Jewish”, with the claimers and their followers generally unaware of the franchise’s Japanese origin. The “Evolution vs. Creationism” conflict was also commonly brought up" and tell me what you think
  • Pokemon battling is animal cruelty (wouldn’t be shocked if PETA said that)
  • A psychic claimed Kadabra was a authorized parody of him. He claims “Nintendo turned me into an evil, occult Pokémon character. Nintendo stole my identity by using my name and my signature image.”
  • For us Europeans, the slot machines in Platinum were unplayble because of gambling charges. Don’t even get me started on how bad voltorb flip is
  • In 1999, as a promotion for Mewtwo Strikes Back, Burger King released a series of promotional toys in handheld Poké Balls with their Kids’ Meals. After their son suffocated because he had covered his mouth and nose with half of the Poké Ball (why did he do that in the first place?), two parents set up a website named “Pokémon Kills”.
  • A few episodes were considered bad because of violence (and not just that gun episode, there was one where misty slaps ash)
Jul 12, 2012 at 04:00PM EDT
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And now for the Christian arguments:

  • Pokémon are like demons. They are captured and must be called upon to perform tasks.
  • Magical talismans (supposedly a reference to Gym Badges) are needed to control them.
  • Pokémon evolve. Though this transformation is more akin to metamorphosis in most Pokémon, the theory of evolution is denied entirely by the most fundamentalist creationists, who believe that all things as they are presently were divinely inspired.
  • Some Pokémon evolution even requires the use of certain magical stones.
  • Many Pokémon have extraordinary paranormal powers, notably Psychic-types. Those with Psychic powers are labeled as having been given these powers by Satan in the Bible itself.
  • Many Pokémon embody or practice East Asian spiritual or mystical concepts, being that the franchise originated in Japan. Some Christian groups denounce these as pagan rituals.
  • Some claim that if one were to play backwards the Pokérap, “Gotta Catch ’em All!” can be heard as “I love Satan”.
  • Some Pagan religions claim many Pokémon have similarities to many pagan spirits

This isn’t even a joke

Jul 12, 2012 at 04:05PM EDT
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Random 21 wrote:

God people get so worked up about this stuff, I mean, listen to this:

  • Jinx made purple because “Black is racist”
  • Casino involves gambling, which is illegal
  • In the anime, Lenora had to have her apron taken off, because it refers to a mammy archetype
  • A card named Koga’s card trick, apparently had a left-facing swastika
  • In one episode, Team rocket raise their hands in a similar fasion to Hitler salute
  • In a registeel sprite, it raises it’s hand like hitler salute
  • Just read this: " Some outspoken, fundamentalist Muslims claimed that Pokémon is a Jewish conspiracy that is intended to brainwash Muslim children to make them renounce their faith. These same groups claimed that the word “Pokémon” is a phrase that means “I am Jewish”, with the claimers and their followers generally unaware of the franchise’s Japanese origin. The “Evolution vs. Creationism” conflict was also commonly brought up" and tell me what you think
  • Pokemon battling is animal cruelty (wouldn’t be shocked if PETA said that)
  • A psychic claimed Kadabra was a authorized parody of him. He claims “Nintendo turned me into an evil, occult Pokémon character. Nintendo stole my identity by using my name and my signature image.”
  • For us Europeans, the slot machines in Platinum were unplayble because of gambling charges. Don’t even get me started on how bad voltorb flip is
  • In 1999, as a promotion for Mewtwo Strikes Back, Burger King released a series of promotional toys in handheld Poké Balls with their Kids’ Meals. After their son suffocated because he had covered his mouth and nose with half of the Poké Ball (why did he do that in the first place?), two parents set up a website named “Pokémon Kills”.
  • A few episodes were considered bad because of violence (and not just that gun episode, there was one where misty slaps ash)

Don’t forget one of the episodes of the anime getting cut here due to Team Rocket using guns, at least here in the US. hoof palm

It just astounds me at the stupidity concerning this franchise, well, not the franchise, but the controversy surrounding the franchise. If this series had came out in like, say the 80’s, I doubt we’d be having as much trouble as we do now.

Oh, and for that PETA thing, yeah, my nickname for Team Plasma is Team PETA since, at least in the first Black and White, they act so much like PETA.

Jul 12, 2012 at 04:25PM EDT
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Borrowing from TV tropes:
In Pokémon Black and White, the villain team is Team Plasma. Their clothing is designed to evoke the armor of knights, and they even use a symbol used as a shorthand for Jesus’s name as a symbol. And they allegedly want to “save” your Pokémon. Yep, the villain team are Christian radicals.

Team Plasma also turns out to be a scam set up by its leader so he can become the most powerful Pokemon trainer in the world once everyone else is powerless. Not helped in that Ghetsis’s robes make him look a bit like The Pope.

Jul 12, 2012 at 05:48PM EDT
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Yeah, I know, but they’ve also been compared to a certain animal wrongs group that I already mentioned as well, right down to the hypocrisy and such.

Thankfully that’s averted in B/W 2 where they just want to take over.

Jul 12, 2012 at 05:58PM EDT
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Those Christian arguments suddenly make a lot more sense:

Jul 13, 2012 at 09:29AM EDT
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I have a new discussion topic.
I don’t really know what the “official” name is, but what are your favorite “Group Pokemon”? By group, I mean The Regis, The Dogs, The Eeveelutions, Hitmonlee/Hitmonchan/Hitmontop, etc. etc.

I’d have to say my personal favorite group are the Eeveelutions or the Dogs (Raiku, Suicune, Entei).
What say you?

Jul 14, 2012 at 01:29AM EDT
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