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Last posted Feb 26, 2012 at 03:18AM EST. Added Feb 05, 2012 at 04:27PM EST
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Behold! I’ve created a thread solely for the discussion of politics! Why? Because I’ve noticed that there’ve been a number of politically themed threads lately, having to do with the 2012 election and specific legislation like ACTA, SOPA, and PIPA. I thought it might be nice to have a general discussion thread about any issues, news, legislation, etc.

I’ll start things off with a recap of the remaining 2012 Republican candidate’s resultes so far:

Mitt Romney
- Delegates to Date: 74
- Popular Vote: 1,082,723
- Percentage of Vote: 40.5%
- States Carried: NH, FL, NV

Newt Gingrich
- Delegates to Date: 26
- Popular Vote: 816,984
- Percentage of Vote: 30.9%
- States Carried: SC

Ron Paul
- Delegates to Date: 14
- Popular Vote: 278,439
- Percentage of Vote: 10.5%
- States Carried: None

Rick Santorum
- Delegates to Date: 10
- Popular Vote: 378,606
- Percentage of Vote: 14.3%
- States Carried: IA

Also, this thread isn’t solely limited to American politics. If you want to talk about the political happenings in your country, go right ahead!

Feb 05, 2012 at 04:27PM EST
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Feb 05, 2012 at 04:39PM EST

BRB wrote:

I live in Sealand!

Did you know the owners of The Pirate Bay once tried to buy Sealand?

Feb 05, 2012 at 05:51PM EST
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Feb 05, 2012 at 07:04PM EST

Sweatie Killer wrote:

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Don’t worry Sweatie, our comments will only make yours look smarter.
But seriously, the Republican party should be put down. It’s modern form is a living insult to the memories of Abraham Lincoln and Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Feb 05, 2012 at 08:14PM EST
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M̷DF̢if̧ica͟t̡io҉n wrote:

Don’t worry Sweatie, our comments will only make yours look smarter.
But seriously, the Republican party should be put down. It’s modern form is a living insult to the memories of Abraham Lincoln and Dwight D. Eisenhower.

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Feb 05, 2012 at 08:47PM EST

Sweatie Killer wrote:

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Ronald Reagan was a criminal, and a hypocrite. And yet the entire Republican Party’s campaign is basically seeing who can pledge allegiance to him the most.

Feb 05, 2012 at 08:55PM EST
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Kazrkae, the Witch King of Cats wrote:

>Implying The Republican Party requires smarts.

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Feb 05, 2012 at 10:31PM EST

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Feb 06, 2012 at 03:25AM EST

China, Russia, and Iran all need to go fuck off.
Though, I wouldn’t say that attacking one of them is a good option.

Feb 06, 2012 at 04:45AM EST
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Katie C. wrote:

China, Russia, and Iran all need to go fuck off.
Though, I wouldn’t say that attacking one of them is a good option.

Yeah, a lot of Americans are frustrated with the situation with Iran. The sanctions don’t seem to do enough, but attacking them would have a lot of repercussions. There’s no quick fix for it.

For those of you who aren’t aware of the situation with China and Russia, they both blocked a U.N. resolution that would’ve taken more serious action against Syria for the number of atrocities they’ve committed against their own people.

More info here: Anger after Russia, China block U.N. action on Syria

Feb 06, 2012 at 11:57AM EST
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Feb 06, 2012 at 12:21PM EST

My prediction for this thread: Doc, Sweatie, and Katie post while everybody else fails to keep up

Feb 06, 2012 at 12:25PM EST
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Feb 06, 2012 at 12:40PM EST

Sweatie Killer wrote:

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Companies like this funded SOPA to protect their copyright.
But anyway, genetics shouldn’t be patentable. That would be like patenting C++ and then charging everyone who tried to use it.

Feb 06, 2012 at 03:41PM EST
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I’m a member of the Republican party.

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walks back in But in all seriousness, I actually am, though I’m not a conservative. And while there are many aspects of the Republican party that I don’t agree with, I’m just more inclined to side with them on a general basis than the democratic party.

Sorry, but that’s the way it is.

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Feb 06, 2012 at 03:58PM EST
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Teh Brawler wrote:

raises hand

I’m a member of the Republican party.

walks off and waits for extradition from site

walks back in But in all seriousness, I actually am, though I’m not a conservative. And while there are many aspects of the Republican party that I don’t agree with, I’m just more inclined to side with them on a general basis than the democratic party.

Sorry, but that’s the way it is.

That’s the problem with the American party system. You either have to be a Liberal Democrat or a Conservative Republican, and in the eyes of the media, there’s no middle ground. This is generally why I stay away from politics, among other reasons.

Regarding the presidential election, I feel like I’m going to vote for Obama in November, just because I don’t want any of the idiots on the opposing side in charge of the country.

Or, I would if I could; my eighteenth birthday is two months after the big day.

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Feb 06, 2012 at 04:18PM EST
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America should just have a Liberal Party and a Conservative Party, like Canada. Then it would actually be clear what their ideologies were.
Republicans started out as the liberals of their day, but now they appear to be hyper-conservatives.

Feb 06, 2012 at 04:25PM EST
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Feb 06, 2012 at 04:44PM EST

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Feb 06, 2012 at 09:09PM EST

Sweatie Killer wrote:

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The Democrats were pro-slavery back in the day.
Not sure how liberal that was.

Feb 06, 2012 at 09:12PM EST
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M̷DF̢if̧ica͟t̡io҉n wrote:

The Democrats were pro-slavery back in the day.
Not sure how liberal that was.

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Feb 06, 2012 at 09:17PM EST

Sweatie Killer wrote:

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Up north we didn’t need machines. We did it all by hand, using the muscles we gained from walking uphill in every direction while carrying bales of hay during constant blizzard conditions.

Feb 06, 2012 at 09:20PM EST
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Feb 06, 2012 at 09:30PM EST

Fridge Logic wrote:

That’s the problem with the American party system. You either have to be a Liberal Democrat or a Conservative Republican, and in the eyes of the media, there’s no middle ground. This is generally why I stay away from politics, among other reasons.

Regarding the presidential election, I feel like I’m going to vote for Obama in November, just because I don’t want any of the idiots on the opposing side in charge of the country.

Or, I would if I could; my eighteenth birthday is two months after the big day.

I think America would be much better off with a multiparty system. If Theodore Roosevelt’s Bull Moose (Progressive) Party were still around, they’d have my vote in a second. Everyone’s always concerned about voting between the lesser of two evils. If Americans had more faith in the electability of a third party candidate, it could work. But we look at individuals like Ralph Nader, Bob Barr, Ross Perot, and Ron Paul and call them “vote stealers” because they take away support from the other two parties. If people could vote for candidates that they actually, whole-heartedly supported, we could have better representation in Washington, instead of funneling everyone’s beliefs into two sides.

Feb 06, 2012 at 10:30PM EST
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Doc wrote:

I think America would be much better off with a multiparty system. If Theodore Roosevelt’s Bull Moose (Progressive) Party were still around, they’d have my vote in a second. Everyone’s always concerned about voting between the lesser of two evils. If Americans had more faith in the electability of a third party candidate, it could work. But we look at individuals like Ralph Nader, Bob Barr, Ross Perot, and Ron Paul and call them “vote stealers” because they take away support from the other two parties. If people could vote for candidates that they actually, whole-heartedly supported, we could have better representation in Washington, instead of funneling everyone’s beliefs into two sides.

Doc for President 2012.

Feb 06, 2012 at 11:25PM EST
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Teh Brawler wrote:

Doc for President 2012.

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Feb 07, 2012 at 12:22AM EST

Teh Brawler wrote:

Doc for President 2012.

So should I run as a republican or a democrat?

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Feb 07, 2012 at 05:44PM EST
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Doc wrote:

So should I run as a republican or a democrat?

Bull Moose, motherfucker.

Do it, Doc. Channel your inner Roosevelt.

Feb 07, 2012 at 10:01PM EST
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Feb 07, 2012 at 10:05PM EST

Fridge Logic wrote:

Bull Moose, motherfucker.

Do it, Doc. Channel your inner Roosevelt.

FOR AMERICA

Feb 07, 2012 at 10:27PM EST
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Looks like Santorum is about to take the lead with 4 caucus wins.
http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results/2012/gop-primary/mn
http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results/2012/gop-primary/co
http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results/2012/gop-primary/mo

Feb 07, 2012 at 10:41PM EST
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Feb 08, 2012 at 01:17AM EST

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Feb 08, 2012 at 03:41AM EST

Katie C. wrote:

Looks like Santorum is about to take the lead with 4 caucus wins.
http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results/2012/gop-primary/mn
http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results/2012/gop-primary/co
http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results/2012/gop-primary/mo

The Minnesota primary does not have any delegates at stake.

I still can’t believe people in Colorado are still voting for Herman Cain and Rick Perry.

Feb 08, 2012 at 05:12AM EST
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burning_phoneix wrote:

The Minnesota primary does not have any delegates at stake.

I still can’t believe people in Colorado are still voting for Herman Cain and Rick Perry.

Turns out none of them do. They’ll have to do it over later.

Feb 08, 2012 at 05:52PM EST
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I’m waiting for Ron Paul to run as an independent, split the conservative/libertarian vote, and allow the democrats to win.
I’d laugh, and then weep tears of pure unadulterated rage.

Feb 08, 2012 at 08:35PM EST
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Feb 08, 2012 at 09:04PM EST

Sweatie Killer wrote:

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It should be broadcasted on public television.

Feb 08, 2012 at 09:10PM EST
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Luis, Neimifan Is A Robot Racist wrote:

My prediction for this thread: Doc, Sweatie, and Katie post while everybody else fails to keep up

Keeping up with politics either makes me depressed or enraged. Wait did I say either/or? I think I meant both/and.

Teh Brawler wrote:

I’m a member of the Republican party.

Contrary to what some people seem to express, there’s nothing wrong with that. I get a lot of flack from people in the fairly conservative area in which I live over being a registered Democrat, but we have to deal with politics in whatever manner we feel is right, not whatever manner our culture tells us to.

Fridge Logic wrote:

Regarding the presidential election, I feel like I’m going to vote for Obama in November, just because I don’t want any of the idiots on the opposing side in charge of the country.

I really think that despite the raw hatred most conservatives in this country seem to have for Obama, the GOP hasn’t got a solid candidate to go up against him this year, and he’s going to get four more years easily.

Sweatie Killer wrote:

I wish there was a socialist party.

There is, they just don’t get any votes outside of Vermont.

Doc wrote:

I think America would be much better off with a multiparty system.

I do too, but we’ve largely been trained to ignore any but the two most prominent parties for whatever reason. Nonetheless, third parties can and do break through from time to time. People forget that Lincoln was essentially a third-party candidate, as he was the first Republican President. Also, despite the whinings by many today concerning Presidents elected without a majority of the popular vote, Lincoln had slightly less than 40%, but of course instead of two major candidates in that race, there were four.

Personally, as a mathematician, what I’d like to see in this country is not doing away with the Electoral College in favor of straight popular vote, but doing away with plurality voting in favor of approval voting or instant-runoff voting, both of which give third-party candidates a reasonable chance.

Feb 09, 2012 at 04:20AM EST
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Sweatie Killer wrote:

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I find this collected into a single graphic to be interesting:

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Although one might need this for context:

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Sorry, I just had to edit this post to add a link to this hilarious article. You might want to check out Bachmann’s profile for further laughs.

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Feb 09, 2012 at 04:51AM EST
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Brucker is forever Milhouse wrote:

I find this collected into a single graphic to be interesting:

[photo:247297]

Although one might need this for context:

[photo:247298]

Sorry, I just had to edit this post to add a link to this hilarious article. You might want to check out Bachmann’s profile for further laughs.

The ones for Fox News guys are the best.

Feb 09, 2012 at 09:57AM EST
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Interesting graphic found on Tumblr.

Feb 09, 2012 at 12:10PM EST
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Katie C. wrote:

The ones for Fox News guys are the best.

Who in particular? Sean Hannity’s was pretty dull, and I don’t know the FoxNews crew, so I’m not sure where to look.

Feb 10, 2012 at 04:48AM EST
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Brucker is forever Milhouse wrote:

Who in particular? Sean Hannity’s was pretty dull, and I don’t know the FoxNews crew, so I’m not sure where to look.

Just search under pundits

Feb 10, 2012 at 12:43PM EST
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