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KYM Pony General V: We Just Don't Know What Went Wrong

Last posted Jul 01, 2012 at 04:43PM EDT. Added Feb 19, 2012 at 11:27PM EST
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*steals Kanye's spotlight*
Yo, Rainbow Dash, I’ma let you finish, but the Pikmin were the best elements of Loyalty OF ALL TIME!

Now, new topic. If you could have one movie crossed over with ponies, what would it be?

Jun 15, 2012 at 02:38PM EDT
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Zar, you dick. That is both my shtick and my suggestion.

I’LL MURDER YOU!

Anyways, crossing a movie with ponies?

-Iron Giant
-The Beauty and the Beast
-Mulan
-Fucking every Disney thing
-Toy Story (Smarty Pants’s story)

Jun 15, 2012 at 02:59PM EDT
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Can we haz more Luna for season 3?

Jun 15, 2012 at 03:12PM EDT
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@Zarathh
-Revenge of the Sith
-Return of the Jedi
-Gladiator
-Casablanca
-Mulan (agree with Kanye)
-Back to the Future (Twilight = Doc, Spike = Marty?)
-The Hunt for Red October
@Kanye
What the intention was that war was changing them, along with the darker atmosphere set up by Sunset. Their world wasn’t as bright as it once was,
@Nightmare Moon pic
Well, all things aside, it is pretty sad, but not crushing. It’s not like it made me fall and cry, but that was an interesting scenario, you’ve got to admit.
Of course, like Fifths said, it didn’t make as much sense as it should.
EDIT @Dac
I say more of the minor characters period. Not necesarilly their own episodes, but they could get larger roles. Just sayin’.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 03:21PM EDT
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@Dac
Yes!
In fact, every episode in Season three will end with this:

… hmm?
Oh, what? You wanted her to play a role in the actual stories?
Sorry!

Jun 15, 2012 at 03:26PM EDT
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@Movies
Yeah….

Look into your hearts, you knew this would happen eventually
@Dac
Arg, forget my teen years, what about me? Don’t I deserve more screentime? I promise I’ll behave this time…

Jun 15, 2012 at 03:32PM EDT

Hmm… Movie crossovers…
-Shawshank Redemption
-Men in Black
-All of what PopperFett wrote
-Scott Pilgrim
-The Dark Knight
-Any Spiderman movie
…I can’t think of anymore… I’m frankly not much of a movie person

Look what I found!

Too bad it’s one of the older gens…

Jun 15, 2012 at 03:40PM EDT
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[edit] This is for you, Pyro.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 05:13PM EDT
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@Zarathh
Damn it, Zarathh.
That made me want to search for other Scootaloo flying images and I found this:

Why did you make me make myself sad, you jerk?!
I’m gonna go cry now…

I said it on the image gallery, too, but that pic is definitely not from Hasbro.
The models and shading are completely different from the show’s style.
I’m honestly surprised at how many people thought that it could be real.

Besides, if they did do a ‘Scootaloo learns to fly’ episode, I wouldn’t want them to ruin the moment beforehand by releasing something like this.
She’ll have her time and it will be glorious!
For now, let’s play Scoota-kite!

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Jun 15, 2012 at 05:39PM EDT
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First of all, I’d probably see how many hugs I could get for a bit.

After solving that dilemma, I would see how many bits my soul is worth to Pony Satan.

Edit: @Zar:

Pretty sure that first pic with them flying is fake. Looks REALLY off with the show’s style, and Spike looks screwed up.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 05:40PM EDT
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Deadparrot wrote:

What do you guys think of MLD?

I don’t read Sadfics, so I am completely clueless to the content of My Little Dashie.

So I am not contributing in any meaningful way! GO ME!

Jun 15, 2012 at 05:54PM EDT
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Zarathh wrote:

Scootaloo and Spike are flying?

What kind of witchcraft is this?

@Kanye West
I would also try to see how many I could hug with one bit and possibly brush one of them. Or I could use that one bit to buy something of greater value and then sell it for more bits, which I would then use. In a similar fashion like Kyle MacDonald, who made a series of trade from a red paper clip to a house.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 05:57PM EDT
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Kanye West:

From what we’ve seen, Luna and Celestia are not normal alicorns. Cadence is enough evidence of that, I think, since she seems to be fairly normal and limited, and has aged exactly like a normal pony, so far. It’s safe so say that Luna and Celestia are, at the very least, demi-gods. They’re far stronger than a normal pony, but they can’t rival Discord without the Elements of Harmony.

I’ve said this before, but to reiterate, I’d venture to say Cadance is just like them, in terms of immortality. We’ve seen nothing to indicate that Celestia and Luna didn’t age at the same rate as everyone else until maturity.

I still contend that in the show, aging might very well be quite different for them than it is for humans.

Just look at Twilight’s parents; Shining armor is years older than Twilight, which means that her parents were married even longer. If they were human, by now they should be looking “middle-aged” at the very least. Instead, here’s what we have for their appearances during Twlight’s fillyhood, and present day:

Not only have they not aged at all, they don’t even look older than their kids! My point is, obviously even normal unicorns remain in prime condition for a very long time, even though they reach that maturity at a normal rate. I would bet that any pony born an alicorn is simply extremely long-lived, Cadence included. As for strength of magic, my headcanon remains that it is a combination of natural talent, practice, and study.


Oh, and I personally have no desire to make out with ponies. If we’re talking hugs though, Fluttershy all the way. It’s not even a contest.



@Zaranth’s Poster

Faker than false eyelashes.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 06:06PM EDT
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Explosive Lasers AKA Solaire AKA Sexiest wrote:

First of all, I’d probably see how many hugs I could get for a bit.

After solving that dilemma, I would see how many bits my soul is worth to Pony Satan.

Edit: @Zar:

Pretty sure that first pic with them flying is fake. Looks REALLY off with the show’s style, and Spike looks screwed up.


This one.

Jun 15, 2012 at 06:09PM EDT
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@DeadParrot

>Writes Tiny Wings
>Gets pissed when someone makes him see a “Scootaloo can’t fly” pic

Fuck logic.

@Kanye

Normally I’d say Dash, but I’m probably far too busy shanking everyone else trying to get a kiss from her.

Seriously, she’s mine bitches, back off.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 06:41PM EDT
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I’m scared to do this, but here’s a new fan made video by MisterDavie. (the same guy who made Cupcakes HD) So, I’m going to post it. Don’t kill me, I’m just the messenger.
WARNING, THIS VIDEO IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART, OR ANYONE WITHOUT A SENSE OF HUMOR.

Here’s an image that will help you recuperate from what you just watched.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 06:58PM EDT
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@Fifths
Nah, I’m just screwing around. =)
Boredom does that to a person.
I (obviously) kinda like the idea of flightless Scootaloo, but it’s still sad to see it in a visual form.
Power-up time!

Jun 15, 2012 at 07:02PM EDT
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Hmmm it could work, that flying cap needs a lot of speed to get moving and Scootaloo+Scooter can do that.

Jun 15, 2012 at 07:06PM EDT
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@Zarathh
Oh god my sides.
That made my day.
That seriously made my day.
Its quite a lulzy vid.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 07:08PM EDT
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@Kanye West (alicorns)
I’d compare them more to the Elven race in LOTR. They age the same way until maturity, then they keep their youth throughout much of their long, long lives.

@Kanye West (pony kiss)
Save the money, then save up and take Chrysalis on the date of her life.

@Zarathh
Well that was out there.

EDIT-
@Fifths
No.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 07:13PM EDT
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I’ve got a question for you all.

Early gens of mlp had humans in it. How would you feel if humans were introduced into Friendship is magic?

How I would react personally.

Of course, that’s just my reaction to humans in general.

Jun 15, 2012 at 07:19PM EDT
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@Zaratthh

>mfw head crushed and stupid escape:

>mfw fart and retarded laugh:

I’m such a kid.


@Fifths

The show is special because it’s ponies. People love the show and art because it’s ponies. Adding humans to the mix won’t do that any good. Fics and art that feature humans mainly add them for the humor or for the ego-boosting fapfuel of the creator who dreams of living in Equestria.

Gen 1 had humans from the beginning, so you were directly introduced to the human factor. Here they have to be added first. Giving that a good flow within the show and also considering the future of that/those human(s) will be tough if they’ll stay.

Not to mention the massive shitstorms it would cause amongst the fans.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 07:23PM EDT
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@Fifths:

Depends.

If it were modern day humans, I’d probably react kind of sourly. Whereas if they were more feudal/medieval, and kind of fit the fantasy setting, I would react more positively. It all depends on execution, the involvement in the story, reasoning, etc.

For one, if there was no explanation for them to be there and they were very modern, it would seem poorly thought out and done for no reason. Whereas if there’s a legit reason for them to be there, and they were a foreign country on the level of zebras and griffons, I imagine it could work quite well. Especially if their technology reflected what the ponies have proven to have, so as to make little sense in why the ponies don’t have human tech.

I suppose it would kinda help explain some weird flaws in the show, as well. Scissors with fingerholes and things like that.

It depends on execution, reason, and many other variables, through and through. I can’t say for certain whether I would dislike it without those variables being explained.

Jun 15, 2012 at 07:24PM EDT
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@Age discussion
I haven’t aged a day past 25. Alicorns don’t age past 25. Celestia may be about 10 years older, but she and I look the same age.
@Zarathh
Well that was…interesting. Didn’t see that one coming.
And who the hell downvoted Burn/Pyro? Way to be tolerant, guys….real tolerant…
@Fifths
Well, I’ve studied your species for quite some time now, and I would prefer if you kept your war-mongering, destructive hands out of our world. Although, if you have nice humans, sure. They’d be good to have around.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 07:27PM EDT

@Fifths
Under the scenario that you purposed, then I would not be happy with that decision. The writers would begin to focus on the humans and writing for the other characters would begin to degrade as they try to incorporate the humans. I feel like it would be similar to the new Transformers movies. The writers made the humans overpowered and took away the importance of the Autobots, which took away a key component of the original plot. Thankfully Lauren has said that there are no humans in this generation and I doubt that any future writers will incorporate humans into the plot.

@Zarathh
I only laughed at the ending with the CMC laughing, Why? I don’t know. but the rest of it was a bit painful to watch because the escape scene was over exaggerated, I have no problem with gore it just seemed to long.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 07:32PM EDT
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@Kissing ponies

I see many of you would rather not make out with these adorable little equines.

Is that so? You wouldn’t like to know how those soft lips would feel against your own? You wouldn’t want to sense the taste of wild blueberries and fresh carrots off the tongue? You do not wish to hear the adorable little squeaks and moans of pleasure your actions would elicit? You would never even dream of how that warm, velvety coat would feel, brushing against your bare skin?

No, of course you wouldn’t! What sort of uncultured philistine wishes for such carnal activities, anyhow? Harumph!


@Cadence’s biology

My headcanon is that Cadence isn’t a true alicorn like the princesses (i.e. a combination of all three races) but rather a rare half-breed of unicorn and pegasus.

There’s certainly little indication that she’s much anything like the Diarchs of Equestria. She apparently ages “normally”, which, at the very least, means that she hasn’t been around longer than an average pony. Given how we’ve seen no other winged unicorns, it’s safe to say that it doesn’t come with automatic immortality either, otherwise Canterlot would be crawling with them by now. And don’t even think about arguing that Cadence is a special case, like an heir to the throne, because heirs to the throne ain’t allowed outside castle walls without substantial escort, and they most definitely don’t do babysitting.

As for why I think Cadence is a genetic anomaly, see Blueblood. Supposedly he’s also of royal descent, but he’s a bog-standard unicorn, haughty attitude notwithstanding. Of course, our understanding of the dynamics of the royal lineage is woefully incomplete. It could be only female members are born winged, but that’s going into speculation territory again.

So yeah, We’ll have to wait for Word of God or Season 3 to clear up the fog surrounding this issue.

Jun 15, 2012 at 08:02PM EDT
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@kissing ponies
I wouldn’t want to kiss any of them mouth to mouth, just a little peck like I do to my pets, nothing more. Also I don’t support prostitution and will not pay for sexual favors. Lol

Jun 15, 2012 at 08:10PM EDT
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@Brownmane

What can I say, my lips are for humans only. We’ve all got our preferences. ¯\(o_o)

As for Cadance’s biology, the notion of her being some kind of not-alicorn sounds like a real stretch to me. Once again, what evidence is there that Luna and Celestia aged any differently from anyone else as children? Who’s to say they didn’t reach adulthood at a normal speed and then just stayed there? And since alicorns are so rare, who’s to say that it doesn’t automatically equal extreme long life? There is simply not enough evidence to say for certain, but I’m trying to look for consistencies rather than exceptions.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 08:13PM EDT
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@Millennial Dan

Oh, I’m not arguing that the royal sisters aged differently in their younger years, I’m arguing that apparently new “alicorns” are periodically born. Even if it is a rare occurrence, if they would indeed be naturally long-lived, there would be quite a few of them by now, and they’d be very visible. Given how this is apparently not the case, I can only conclude that being an “alicorn” doesn’t grant automatic immortality.

So exactly what makes the Diarchs special? Well, there’s a few theories I can think of. Perhaps they were ordinary ponies at one point, but through some ritual were transformed into what they are now. Or they are, indeed, an entirely different breed than any other pony. Again, hard to say.

It’s quite true that there’s little evidence to go on. But, I feel that the evidence that does exist points to Cadence being a different sort than the princesses.

Jun 15, 2012 at 08:29PM EDT
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@Cadence biology
Ok guys, here is my theory:
Harsbro needed a pink alicorn since people wanted celestia to be white. Now they have a pink alicorn that will sell like hot cakes. They know the intended audience wont think about all the questions a new alicorn brings. Plain and simple. It’s fun though to discuss these things though.

Jun 15, 2012 at 08:38PM EDT
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Unrelated new topic.
Just thought this up; Here’s the situation:
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It’s the Clone Wars, and Equestria is one of the many systems caught in the middle. So far, no war has made it there, but now they are being pressured to join either the Republic or Seperatist cause.

Celestia listens to your judgement. She wants you to help her make a decision. You have three options:

-Join the Republic. The Republic will do the best to see that no harm comes to your world, but you know that if the Seperatists were to ever break through, their revenge would be brutal. Thousands would be slain and many more enslaved should the Seperatists ever conquer the system.

-Join the Seperatists. Dooku will keep his word, and not affect the land or anything about it. He will leave behind a small fleet to guard the system. However, if the Republic came to take the system, you know that they would try to minimize collateral damage. But, the Clone Army has a reputation for ruining Seperatist-held worlds…badly. Much of the land would be in near-irreperable ruin, and inevitably, some of the Equestrians would be caught in the crossfire.

-Stay neutral. Equestria doesn’t choose a side. However, both the Seperatists and the Republic will try to convince you to join them, by force if necessary. It depends on who comes first. Also, you open up to civil anarchy, as hardliners for both sides rally up to challenge your lack of action in the war. Even when one side wins, the land would be damaged from civil war and infighting.

So, what do you do? What is the option that you think would minimalize damage to the beloved land?

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Jun 15, 2012 at 08:47PM EDT
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@Dac

This is true. I enjoy in-universe speculation because I like story-telling in general, so it helps me get into it that much more.

Here are a couple more screens I find interesting on this topic:


Notice that when their magic was being mutually augmented, Cadence’s mane looked just Celestia’s, but Shining Armor’s definitely did not. Once they stopped sharing that power, though, her hair returned to normal. This is just another thing that makes me speculate that the only thing that separates her from the Sisters is their amount of magical energy.


@Popper

I’d like to give an answer, but I’m afraid dinner is calling.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 09:00PM EDT
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Popper, must you ask.

Join the goddamn Republic. Join the cause that is least likely to stab you in the back, and the one that’s proven to work for countless thousands of years. Equestria also seems the kind of society that would back the more ‘noble’ Republic, especially Celestia, who strikes me as Jedi-ish, in a sense.

Not to mention, who could resist these sexy mofos?

Also, the Jedi are far better than the Sith.

Edit: READ THIS MOTHERFUCKING FUCKER, I FORGET IT WAS A DAMN EDIT! Regarding the alicorn discussion:

Celestia and Luna perform an action far beyond Cadence’s abilities, from what we’ve seen. Cadence is a demigod to Celestia and Luna’s god, as well as Discord’s titan. It’s not far-fetched to believe Cadence has a slightly longer life, a la dwarves and halflings in many fantasy, but not immortality. I find it far more likely that she is of the lineage of a relative of Celestia and Luna, who was likely an alicorn. Throughout generations, though, the bloodline was diluted by unicorns, pegasi, and earth ponies, leading to fewer alicorns being born, instead of every single child being one. So, Blueblood is probably a unicorn cousin of Candence, making both of them great-great-great-great-great-great-etc. nephew/niece to Luna and Celestia.

However, whereas Celestia and Luna probably have a wider magical range, I’d say Cadence has the specialization on love magic, which allowed her to perform that show of force that banished the changelings. She doesn’t have the raw power to banish a god to the moon, or wield the Elements of Harmony by herself, but she can spark a love that’s about as strong, if not stronger, than the Elements.

So, while not as powerful (and likely far less immortal) than the two sisters, she does has specialized abilities, like many demigods. From what we’ve seen, the pantheon of Equestria works kind of similar to that of Greece, in that the gods aren’t invulnerable, and are just very, very strong versions of mortals. They also have a somewhat limited field, as well. For example, Luna and Celestia are very powerful, but their powers are mostly focused on the sun and moon, respectively. Whereas Discord has a much wider range, spanning all things chaotic and mischievous. Cadence is even more limited than the sisters, in that she can spark love (I don’t think create or force it, like the love poison, though). She might not be as powerful in a broad sense, but she can unload a can of whoop-ass when the ball is in her court.

So, in short, I’d say Cadence is ‘more immortal’ than the average unicorn, but ‘less immortal’ than the sisters, if that makes sense. She probably has a slightly longer life, but not immortality. She’s also not near as powerful as the other two, but she does have immense power in a certain area.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 09:00PM EDT
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@Popper
Technically, they’re the same side. Stay neutral, put up a barrier around the planet, and let them desroy eachother. Then proceed to laugh.

Jun 15, 2012 at 09:05PM EDT

@Dan
I agree with your ‘power levels affect the mane’ argument and guess what?
So does Lauren herself! (though she technically has no continuing influence)

Makes sense to me!

@kissing ponies
If I had to pick, I’d go with a unicorn first and foremost.
Would you want to kiss someone who has to use their mouth for everything?
And I mean everything?

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Jun 15, 2012 at 09:28PM EDT
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@Candence’s Alicorn Powers

For this it might be better to look at the powers first.

  • Candence & Shining Armor using the power of love (so gay).
  • Crysalis using Shining Armor’s love.
  • Celestia.
  • Crysalis.
  • Candence.
  • Shining Armor.

Why I went with this order is quite simple:

Shining Armor is just an unicorn, I think we can agree Alicorn > Unicorn when it comes to power. Regular Crysalis was able to defeat and imprison Candence and put Shining Armor under her control, so we can assume she’s stronger. When Crysalis was using Shining Armor’s love, she was able to defeat Celestia (therefore love-using Crysalis > Celestia). But she was quite suprised by this (going all “even able to defeat Celestia now”), so we can assume without Shining Armor’s love she wouldn’t be able to beat Celestia. When Candence and Shining armor joined their love forces (that sounds so gay), they were able to beat Crysalis and all her changelings. Which makes them the most powerful combo in this. Stuff like Nightmare Moon and others aren’t important for this as we don’t have clear data on that, so I’m leaving them out.

Interesting to see is that Candence and Shining Armor were the weakest of the bunch but together became the strongest. By this we can assume that Candence’s love for Shining Armor is stronger in levels of power than Shining Armor’s love for Candence, as Crysalis wasn’t able to use Candence’s love when she was at full power during the changeling rebellion. Because there isn’t really a factor of one loving the other more in the relationship, the source of Candence’s stronger love power must come from her Alicorn genes.

In other words, Candence can pack some punch, but she needs a trigger to fully use her powers (Shining Armor in this case). On the topic of aging, we can’t give a conclusion on this yet. When Twilight was a filly, Candence was a teenager (as was Shining Armor). Based on the fact that they’re married, we can assume that during their teenage years they aged just as fast. But we haven’t seen the future yet. We can’t tell if Candence will live to blow 1000 candles, most of which she had to spent without Shining Armor who died from aging. So as long as the facts are not present, we can’t draw conclusions on this yet.

Also remember that Candence isn’t as tall as the other Unicorns yet. Although Shining Armor might be done growing, we can’t tell if Candence will keep growing. The Alicorn genes are a mystery in that as long as the facts are no longer present. Crysalis is a queen and reached the full grown stage, so perhaps she, Luna and Celestia are unique. But again, no facts so no conclusions.

“But Luna and Celestia…”. Yes, but remember they were born over a 1000 years ago, most likely a lot more as the stories tell they raised the sun and moon in harmony for quite a while already before the whole Nightmare Moon fiasco. Plus Candence is in no way possible to raise a sun or moon, so we can conclude that Celstia and Luna are a lot stronger. So perhaps the age of the Alicorn is determined by their strength. This then means Candence wouldn’t live to become as old as Celestia and Luna. But her dying age, no can tell.

I was bored and Dan’s screencaps remembered me of this scene, so made that.

Jun 15, 2012 at 09:59PM EDT
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@Zarathh
That really is the first time someone has managed to rustle my jimmies. Something that 4-chan and that creep-o Zed never even got close to accomplish. (His PMs to me were quite the stuff. Let me tell ya.)

@PopperFett
If the Republic isn’t going to fuck up everything when Palpatine takes over, then I’m golden.


This is so my feels. Being raised in the ghetto can get frickin’ lonely if you’re a brony…
Sometimes I feel like my only partner
Sometimes I feel like my only friend is the Princess of Night
Lonely as I am, together we… ahem I think that’s enough RHCP for today.
On a side note, guess who got signed with CenturyLink to appear in a few commercials! I bet you can’t spot me !

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Jun 15, 2012 at 10:00PM EDT
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@Lil Slinker

I don’t have any actual brony friends and barely friends in real life
I only have a few brony friends on steam, but still, it feels really lonely to keep something only for yourself and that will ruin the way people see you if you tell them

Jun 15, 2012 at 10:37PM EDT
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I just like to think That Luna and Celestia are the only immortal gods, while cadence is, at most, a mortal demigod. I don’t like the idea of Cadence marrying a mortal when she is immortal.
@ Dan
I think the reason twilights parents don’t seem to have aged is less because ponies age different and more because the animation team only uses four main body types: baby, foal, adult, scrotum. I like to believe that they age about the same as humans.

Jun 15, 2012 at 10:53PM EDT
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My personal headcannon concerning Alicorns:

Alright, so this is how I like to think about this crap. A long time ago, the spirits of nature looked down on Equestria and envied the ponies their mortal forms. See, even though the ponies were feeble, shortlived things, they possessed something powerful, something that even the spirits did not. The ponies had the ability to see the world as more than simply the brute sum of its reality. A pony could feel warmth in fire where a spirit would merely feel heat, a pony could hear joy in another’s laughter where a spirit would hear only sound. To be a nature spirit was simply to be, to be a pony was good to be.

So, the spirits decided to take on pony form, hence the first alicorns. The spirits of day and night bred with each other, producing two children, Celestia and Luna. Celestia and Luna possess all the power of their noble parentage, inheriting the abilities to raise sun and moon. Their father however, the night spirit, also happened to sire a third daughter on a mere mortal pony. Having only one “spirit” parent, their child did not possess the powers of her half-sisters, nor was she blessed with their long lifespan, but she did inherit the trait of both horn and wings that the alicorns possess.

This third daughter went on to have children of her own, and her children had children, and etc etc until you get down to the present day. Most descendents of the third daughter are like blue blood, just a normal pony with a fancy lineage, but on rare occassions, a pony will be born who has that peculiar trait of both horn and wings.

Cadence might be able to trace herself back to those noble spirits who first descended from the heavens, and she’s even got the horn and wings to prove it, but besides that, she’s just a regular pony.

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Jun 15, 2012 at 11:43PM EDT
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Fifths wrote:

My personal headcannon concerning Alicorns:

Alright, so this is how I like to think about this crap. A long time ago, the spirits of nature looked down on Equestria and envied the ponies their mortal forms. See, even though the ponies were feeble, shortlived things, they possessed something powerful, something that even the spirits did not. The ponies had the ability to see the world as more than simply the brute sum of its reality. A pony could feel warmth in fire where a spirit would merely feel heat, a pony could hear joy in another’s laughter where a spirit would hear only sound. To be a nature spirit was simply to be, to be a pony was good to be.

So, the spirits decided to take on pony form, hence the first alicorns. The spirits of day and night bred with each other, producing two children, Celestia and Luna. Celestia and Luna possess all the power of their noble parentage, inheriting the abilities to raise sun and moon. Their father however, the night spirit, also happened to sire a third daughter on a mere mortal pony. Having only one “spirit” parent, their child did not possess the powers of her half-sisters, nor was she blessed with their long lifespan, but she did inherit the trait of both horn and wings that the alicorns possess.

This third daughter went on to have children of her own, and her children had children, and etc etc until you get down to the present day. Most descendents of the third daughter are like blue blood, just a normal pony with a fancy lineage, but on rare occassions, a pony will be born who has that peculiar trait of both horn and wings.

Cadence might be able to trace herself back to those noble spirits who first descended from the heavens, and she’s even got the horn and wings to prove it, but besides that, she’s just a regular pony.

That sounds very Greek mythology-like… I like it!

Jun 15, 2012 at 11:57PM EDT
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You can look at http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicSettingEquestria
This are legit-sounding things about how pinkie pie got her cutie mark…
if you know what i mean

Equestria was originally an uninhabitable hellhole.

Then the ponies, including Celestia, settled an area of it and worked to make it not only livable, but prosperous. Eventually they spread and took the entire area. This ties in with the theory that the series takes place on a future Earth. Humans ruined the planet and died out. Nature took over some areas, but others, like Equestria, remained an uninhabitable wasteland. It is the way it is now because Celestia and Luna got their pony followers to use their magic and abilities to fix everything up. This creates a safe and prosperous haven for ponies, where they’re safe from monsters, and their control over the weather and land ensures that they’re safe from natural disasters and starvation.

Expanding on my theory here… The “monsters” and other strange creatures are the descendants of genetic expiriments done by the humans a long time ago, though some species were mutated by radiation. This is why many are sentient and why many resemble mythical monsters. Unicorns, pegasi, dragons, and others were used as status symbol pets by the upper classes. Many creatures were created just to expiriment and see if they could do it, and many of the tougher, scarier species were created for shows, exhibits, fighting, and hunting. (let’s face it, a sport hunter would pay a lot to hunt a manticore and have it stuffed for his living room)

Also, i personally think that discord the, most human-like experiment created by humans before they died out, an evil mutation of mixing all the experiments done before, maybe as an attempt to create a war beast.
If this is true, them we can say that Humans died out eventually from a war

Jun 16, 2012 at 12:17AM EDT
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Hai theres been a lot here, that I need to catch up on… I’m not sour at all about it! So I’ll just peacefully, calmly, lovingly lurk on for a bit until I can join in!

Jun 16, 2012 at 12:20AM EDT
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@Fifths
Headcanon now…
Alright then, I shall discuss my view.
As I said, like the Elves in LOTR
Magic is kind of like magic in any other series, or the Force in SW. It’s an ever present force, manipulated by users profecient in it.
Alicorns happen to be a (rare) variety of pony that are more aware and inept to magic than other races. They are sort of prime-ponies, if you understand. Their advanced connection to magic allows them to live longer-than-natural lives and become sort of demi-gods, obviously being able to raise sun and moon.
Immortality though, goes so far. Alicorns, though they tend to be wiser and more aware and capable of defending themselves, are immortal only in the extent of natural life-span. Should one be able to find a way to overpower Celestia or Luna, they could probably end up killing them, permenantly. So they can be killed, just like anyone else, but it’s incrediblly hard to do so with how much power they have.
It is commonplace for a society to place the stronger members of it on top in leading positions, which explains the rule of Celestia and Luna. In this case, the ones more magical are the ones in power.
So not exactly divine beings, but beings that happen to be more powerful than any of the others.
As for Cadence, she’s probably got the same deal going on in life-span. But she isn’t as powerful or wise as her aunts. She’s probably powerful, but not that powerful.

Jun 16, 2012 at 12:21AM EDT
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Ugh…headcanon infodump coming…
Alright, to know where the alicorns come from, you must know where their creator comes from:
Basically the big bang theory comes in. Matter is thrown around everywhere, but doesn’t collect to form planets or suns. The only living thing to form is a being made of pure energy, with the power to use the materials around it to form worlds and their suns.
It creates various worlds, and filling them with life. It tells each planet’s new occupants to bring their world to perfection, but it made the inhabitants imperfect. To the being, perfection was doing the best with what you’ve got. And what its creations got was a few imperfections. Unfortunatly, they took perfection as being rid of all imperfections and sought to destroy everything that was imperfect.
Now we get to all of the various worlds destroying eachother in the name of perfection. Seeing its mistake, the being creates one world different from the rest, with only 3 occupants rather than entire populations, and giving them less violent forms, along with making their science based off magic (another term for energy manipulation) rather than hard sciences which caused the other worlds to become so cold and calculating. These were the first alicorns. Luna, Celestia, and their third sister, Terra. Sun, Moon, and Earth. In the spirit of having a better relationship with its creations, it took a gender like they would have, a female figure. It drew materials into its body and they formed inside it like a normal foal would. It birthed them, one at a time, each about 5-10 years apart. First Celestia, then Luna, then Terra.
It gave them the whole perfection speech like the others, but it did not just hand them everything they needed and left them forever like it did the others. It raised them like a mother would, teaching values and skills. Soon, each of them matured into fine alicorns. When they reached the proper age, they were given a choice: fertility or immortality, and all three would recieve eternal youth. Celestia and Luna chose immortality and were charged with being the guardians of their world. They each recieved a suit of armor to aide in their task.
Terra chose fertility and was charged with populating the world. The being created a mate for her to help her accomplish this task. The mate was a creature of energy, much like the being, but it had a defined shape and genetic code like the alicorns. Every time Terra gave birth its genetics changed to make sure the offspring could reproduce and populate the world. The change in genetics was represented physically by the lack of wings, horn, or both on the offspring. Other variations in the code remained unexpressed and never appeared physically. As she neared the end of her life, she gave birth one last time. The foal this time, however, was an alicorn herself. This was to be the royal bloodline. The foal was not immortal, but it aged a bit slower than the rest of Terra’s offspring. Every male in this bloodline is a unicorn, earth pony, or pegasus, and all females are alicorns. None of them are immortal, and the females age slower. All bloodline decendents are able to mate with any normal pony. So we go all the way down the bloodline until we get to Cadence and Blueblood. Blueblood is Cadence’s sister, but with him being a dick and all the family decides to pretend he’s from a different part of the bloodline.
So yeah, that’s my complicated and overthought headcanon.
Bordem makes people do strange things.
And that’s just about 1/4 of my headcanon. There’s still a whole lotta other crap that needs explaining. Ask and you shall recieve.

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Jun 16, 2012 at 12:32AM EDT
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Can i make a request? I’d like some one to find more of those ponified Hiimdaisy dub comics if they could. Those are waaaaaaay to damn funny.

Jun 16, 2012 at 02:46AM EDT

>referring to all of the headcanon posts

Some of them make a fair amount of sense, and some are downright novel. Either way they’re all interesting, you guys are pretty creative. As such,

@Pyro

Keep it coming dude, this is one of the most entertaining thread pages I’ve read in a while.


One last thing.
Nightmare Moon said:

Alicorns don’t age past 25. Celestia may be about 10 years older, but she and I look the same age.

That’s basically how I see it. They age normally and then stop once they reach their prime.

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Jun 16, 2012 at 03:21AM EDT
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Heyo, fellow bronies. I just came across an intriguing video that decries the BRONYCON documentary but also makes some interesting points about KickStarter projects.

What’s also interesting is that this the alternative account of Ken Ashcorp, the maker of 20% Cooler:

So, what do the rest of you think?

Jun 16, 2012 at 03:39AM EDT
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