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@Fridge
Twilight is great, but come on.

That is just awesome!
What more needs to be said?

@Psychology
Fluttershy is afraid of hippos?! GASP
And since this is still her page, we must analyze Derpy, too.

Well, that was easy!

@Lauren on Twitter
This will either be very good or very bad.
… Most likely both.
All I know is that I will be watching eagerly!

Man…. That name is lame. Best rated drama and statistically less likely are way more clever than a movie title with one word switched out for poni.

Hippophobia – the fear of horses, not hippos.

Twilight: Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

Just so you guys know, opspe and I got to New Jersey safely (although I did get us very lost.) If everything works out, we'll do our thing, and will give you details and stuff.

It's going to be an interesting weekend.

@Hippophobia

As long as we're rolling with phobias, I know a certain pony come over with anthrophilia…

I can never tell if I'm the only person who cares about certain things on this thread, but there's a new Rainbow Dash Presents out today. Not on YouTube, because fuck.

http://www.dawnsomewhere.com/rainbow-dash-presents/rdp-haunting-nightmare/

@Dac

At this point, I'm just looking for consensus on a name that isn't completely terrible.

@Verbose

Glad you guys made it okay, now bring us many much newsen!

@Next Forum Name
I am happy that we settled with KYM Pony General Episode VI: Return of the Poni as the next forum name. No offense to the other who ever made any other suggestions but some of them were a bit weak. I cant wait to start the next thread and start a new.

@Verbose
I am also happy to hear that you made it safe to New Jersey, have fun at Brony Con.

@Derpy Page
Derpy is not one of my favorite ponies but there are allot of good images of her.

@Dac

I'm going to have to agree, but it's the only thing people seem to agree on so far. So I guess we may as well stick with it before we go all indecisive again.

Personally I like this one:

Statistically less likely to to get shot here than JFF

Also "best rated drama series" was suggested by me ;)

@Random

IMPORTANT NOTE: Merging “because it is ponies” is not a legit reason and can’t even be considered an argument. If you think it is one, turn 360 degrees and walk away.

I take it this goes out to everyone rather than just me, but if not; note that when you created the "Too many pony memes, hurr durr" thread, you made this point absolutely clear so I understand already.

I suggest merges under the circumstance of repeated information (And the Brony article mentioned Bronyspeak so that's why I brought that up but I'm perfectly fine with your reasoning that two articles should not be merged), I would not suggest merging topics simply because they are pony related, in fact I never have done that at any one point.

But a few people on the Brony article comments are. Feel free to pimp-slap them.

@Exudes
Always up for a new RDP!
I'd never actually read Haunting Nightmare so I think some of it was lost on me, but not bad overall.
Thracker Zod and Macarena Zecora to the rescue!

I had a dream the other night that Phoe from EQD joined our forum because she started dating one of the users here. I think it was opspe or BSoD in the dream, but I can't remember. MAN, HOW COME OTHER PEOPLE CAN DREAM OF PONIES, AND I CAN ONLY DREAM ABOUT THE FORUMS.

Also, a look into the lives of brony celebs as General Mumble discusses the talk between himself and other brony musicians at the hotel waiting for BronyCon:

"Main topics of conversation so far: farts and inserting things in dicks. We are twelve."

I'm going to say nopony has either or bipolar or schizophrenia. None of the characters have mood swings that are completely random (IE nopony is depressed one episode but entirely happy the next for no real reason) and none of the ponies have auditory hallucinations or delusions. Pinkie seems to have gone off the deep end with the whole party with inanimate objects- which is why fans often diagnose her with her with schizophrenia. However, that was one instance set in motion by a psychotic breakdown due to serious abandonment issues. That's not diagnosable.

Freud's theories were revolutionary for the time and were essential building blocks in the modern understanding of psychology, however much of it has been discredited over time (that's how science tends to work)

As for self actualization:

@Windigo
'No mood swings' you say?

Trying to diagnose the psychological disorders of cartoon characters is a silly exercise doomed to self-contradiction and craziness, but it sure can be fun!

Meet the Derp

Teralicious

Pal, if I turn 360 degrees wouldn't I be facing in the same direction?

Take pics and be sure to wear your favorite Fluttershy shirt.

Also mention how cool that RandomMan moderator on KYM is, because he totally is. You would be nothing without him. He is your flame, your muse. The alpha and the omega. You may claim yourself lucky that you are able to bask in his glory.

@Blue Screen

The part in the Bronies entry is just a summary of the Bronyspeak entry. We do this more often in articles when certain parts share close relations to each other. But we just go with summaries in that case while linking to the complete entry, this way avoiding as much duplicate information as possible while keeping the entry on topic. If readers want to know more, the link is there.

@I Post Stuff

Verbose and opspe are at BroNYCon?!

ALL OF MY JELLY.

Wait, wrong kind of jelly. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

What? Do you mean inserting dicks into things, or literally sticking things in your pee hole?

I believe its the latter.

Discussion on sticking dicks into things is too cliche and no longer cringe worthy for most. The vice versa makes for far more brilliant discussion

This is most likely the most adorable derpy voice I've ever heard. Go listen to it here.

And take pics for us at bronycon, verbose and opspe
We'll be jelly.

@dan
I don't think bronies have very much to do with the toy line doing good. I'm sure the 6-12 year old girls watching the show, the ones who buy the merch( or should I say "whose parents buy…"), aren't influenced much by bronies.

Yeah, because stuffing things in your butt hole is the shit.

Can this thread go somewhere else which is not below the belt? Last time I checked this was a pony thread not a fetish thread.

>implying that every thread isn't, by default, perverted
>2012

@Ric

Speaking from experience? >:D

@Tim

Sorry, we have a tendency to do that here. Let's just say; there's a reason this forum has a shipping thread, a fetish thread and a Furry thread…

Holy crap. I've been gone for a week and you guys have already advanced seven pages? Neat. Anyways, I'm to lazy to read the previous pages. Oh, I also met two bronies while I was at my camp. They said Fluttershy is best pony. Anyway, have a song.

Hay guise! I finally got a proper drawing done after over a month break. And while I was at it, I also turned 23, and finally bothered to get my driver's licence. And as you can see, I also changed my avatar from Miku to Sona (at least the two look alike).



And since I'm finally actually writing something instead of just lurking now, I might as well give my vote to the next thread name. It's either KYM Pony General VI: Sometimes We Talk About Ponies or KYM Pony General VI: Implying We Talk About Ponies Here. I'm not sure if those were the exact names, but you get the idea.

I think they pretty much depict the antics of this thread with all the constant derailments and such. And while the KYM Pony General VI: Return of The Poni is a simple and effective name, it's also a bit unimaginative at the same time in my honest opinion.

@Muumi
Wow, that's a really good drawing. That's pure talent right there.
Is it used for a certain fanfic?
If so which one.
Anyways, great job on the picture!

@Zarathh
They said fluttershy was best pony?
Was verbose at that camp :p?
__________________________________________________________________________________

Anyone else here lurking over faust's tweets?

Hey, Deadparrot,

@Muumi
Very nice work!
Like Mega asked, is that based on anything or is it just an action shot of your own creation?
Either way, awesome!

@Mega
Lauren seems to be having fun which is definitely great to hear!
There seem to be quite a lot of bronies there so I hope she doesn't get too overwhelmed:

(I love how she made the account 16 hours ago and has 8300 followers already.)

@Takashi

And now a gif:

The fact that fan animators can put stuff like this together now is so crazy!
We don't need Studio B at all anymore! (Kidding!)

I cant think of any names right now.

@DeadParrot
Faust posted this most recently
"Taking a rushed breather----holy crap you Bronies are amazing!!!! I’m so honored!"
I'm just glad she hasn't found some of the "strange" (if you know what I mean) parts of the fandom…

Also, on the topic of scootalove…

What did Nightmare Moon's resurrection look like? I'm not into resurrections in which evil hatch from egg-like or cocoon-like things.

So, in your opinion, why do you suppose Hasbro's MLP line is outperforming all of their other toy lines, including properties like Transformers? I mention that one because as much as the movies were disliked strongly by some (myself included), they were all considered a commercial success. With such major films to the Transformers name and just as well-established a history in both television and toys, why is MLP so far ahead? I'm definitely not suggesting that we're entirely to thank for that, all I'm saying is that with all the advertising of the show and even purchases of the merch that bronies do, at least SOME effect is being made. That's all. Would you really call the fanbase insignificant when Hasbro itself seems to be catering to it?

Edit: Once again, I know how well-established MLP already is. And yes, Hasbro is definitely giving a LOT of "winks" to bronies. The season one DVD pack, NMM and Vinyl Scratch toys (especially the DJ), the billboards, I mean come on, even a Derpy toy. We may be talking about millions of little girls to our hundreds of thousands, but that's still hundreds of thousands we're talking about. How significant bronies are is debatable, but it IS there, to whatever degree.

@404

Now is probably not the best time to suggest new names, we've only got a couple of pages to go. Unless someone suddenly has the most brilliant epiphany for a name ever, we should probably just try to pick from among the current options.

I'm sticking with KYM Pony General Episode VI: Return of The Poni
because I really don't think it's a good idea to draw too much attention to thread derailments, like the >implying one does.

@Zaranth

lol already posted that a couple pages back.

Here's a comic. I love comics.

I wish it were this easy.

@ Dan
Honestly, I think video games are a major factor why toys for boys aren't selling as well. When I was a kid, transformers, GI joe, and army men were the tits and I had tons of that shit. But I see my younger cousins and brother now are content playing minecraft and halo, and I dont blame them. The video games nowadays are more accessible than ever. I could never get past stages in castlevania or other NES games so I would just play with my toys, but the little boys today have it made. I think MLP is doing very well because one 1) MLP is one of the most recognizable girl toys on the planet, arguably second only to barbie 2) Barbie doesn't have a successful show at the moment. I dont think bronies have anything to do with the high sales really.
EDIT: Hasbro is not catering to bronies. They may give them a couple winks and nods here and there, but they know the real money is with the intended demographic and they have no intention of dropping big bucks to make bronie merch or do anything that might alienate the intended demographic. An example of catering to their audience is the creators of Avatar making Legend of Korra more mature because the fans of the original are older. Adding a small scene of derpy or a shoutout during a commercial is not catering to their fans.

Megalolzors wrote:

@DeadParrot
Faust posted this most recently
“Taking a rushed breather----holy crap you Bronies are amazing!!!! I’m so honored!”
I’m just glad she hasn’t found some of the “strange” (if you know what I mean) parts of the fandom…

She's probably fully aware of the 'strange' parts of the fandom. Have you ever noticed how people keep drawing the Fausticorn with Subway sandwiches?

It's a bit of an injoke, but it was pretty controversial a while ago. The artist CrookedTrees, known for being just as talented as he is messed up, made several detailed drawings of a ponified Lauren Faust performing various sexual favours. In response, people started photoshopping Subway sandwiches in place of *ahem* certain parts in order to make the images non-explicit (kinda like that SFW porn meme). It's not the worst thing CrookedTrees has ever drawn, as he's been known to make R34 of the CMC before, but this case became fairly controversial as the original explicit images were posted to Faust's DeviantArt page. After that, it's pretty likely that she's well aware of the darker sides of this fandom.

However, that was just one incident, and there have probably been many more. She knows how the internet works, and she's pretty smart, so I highly doubt that she's completely unaware of the vast amounts of R34 of her work. I bet she knows all about the shipping, R34 and grimdark in the fandom, but she's mature enough to not care about it.

@Thread names

I voted for Return of the Poni in that poll, but now I'm leaning towards >implying we talk about ponies. I'd be happy with either though.

More Pyro crossovers.

@Thread name: I personally think It should be Return of the Poni, or Stay Out of Our Shed.

@Dac

I'm starting to think we're arguing semantics here. "Catering" is not the same as "pandering." Besides, you do realize that bronies greatly affected the second season, right? No, it didn't take on an entirely new direction or anything, but your comment about Korra reminded me of just how many "nods" were present.

Of course, I wasn't even going to mention the show too much, because that's not exactly the same as Hasbro the toy company. Anyway, at the end of the day my point is that it's a well-known fact that Hasbro likes us, and seems to want to keep us around. If we were so insignificant as you seem to think, I imagine they'd just ignore us.

@DeadParrot below

Exactly.

@Mega
'Literal?!'
Are you sure you're using that correctly?
Scoots only does that literally for one pony.

@chowz
By 'NMM's resurrection,' are you talking about Nyx?

She was recreated through some evil magical ceremony with runes and sigils and stuff like that.
No weird cocoons or eggs.
Those are Chysalis' domain.

@Dan & Dac
I think you guys may just be disagreeing in what counts as 'catering.'
Hasbro has definitely taken notice of bronies as a market base.
We are certainly not the primary buyers of their toys, but we are no slouches either.

They have started to make a few moves that can be seen as direct appeals to the brony collectors out there, but their main focus will always be with little girls.

And Dan? The word you are looking for is amphiboly. It basically describes a situation in which two people's seemingly opposing viewpoints are actually based on nothing more than a simple difference in the definition of a word or phrase being used. Other than the definition of 'catering,' you two probably largely agree.

@Algernon
Come on, man.
Is that one summer job she took going to haunt her forever?
She just wanted to she how her subjects live on a day-to-day basis!

"bronies greatly affected the second season"
Care to elaborate, because I dont know what you are talking about.

Anyways, the original argument was if bronies were a big factor to the sales or not. Do you care to tell me what you think about the points I made, because they make a lot more sense than bronies influencing sales.

We are group, at most 1 million, that for the most part dont buy toys and a lot watch the episodes online. In the big picture, yes, we are insignificant. But they do throw nods our way because it costs them nothing and it keeps us engaged and they might as well do it. Not much to lose linking EQD on their website or a couple nods here and there.

@Deadparrot
That sounds reasonable. I do disagree with Dan about Brony traffic on the internet boosting sales however.

To the first point, I'm speaking of just how many shoutouts there were in S2. From the repeated inclusion of Derpy to the Lebowski ponies, there are a lot of ways the show's creators have given at least passing thought to an older audience.

Secondly, I never said that bronies were a huge influence, only that they are an influence on sales on some level.

As for boys consuming video games more than toys these days, I can see that to some degree, but I don't think that it accounts for the entire disparity between brands. Home consoles and games are far more expensive than action figures, and games like minecraft don't have that much interest yet in kids under ten; so when it comes to numbers, other toys are still on top. As for lack of competition in other major brands like Barbie, that line may not have it's own running show, but it does have quite a few movies and specials and junk like that. Of course, they tend to suck, but whatever. It's not conclusive.

As far as throwing nods our way with toys (including Derpy) for no other reason than "why not", that's nowhere near a good enough reason for corporate decision-making.

Finally, you say that the internet traffic has not boosted sales. AT ALL. That's quite a statement, and there's no way that's true. Otherwise, WeLoveFine wouldn't constantly be catering to bronies as well.

@Windigo below

Again, semantics. Perhaps "greatly" is too strong a word, but you have to admit, there were a lot of little things in S2 that probably wouldn't have been there otherwise.

@Millennial Dan
Well, the whole Lebowski thing is something Lauren and her husband put in cartoons anyway:

I'll give you Derpy, but I'm not going to call that "greatly effecting the season," just one fun little gag.

I am going to agree that we have an effect on toy sales, enough of an effect for the higher-ups to take notice anyway.

@Connor's Fluttershy pic

That's from that one fucker isn't it, the guy who draws all the ponies with dicks. R34 usually fails to phase me anymore, but that guy has the distinct honor of managing a slight rustling of ze jimmies.

@Faust

So, Lauren has decided to get on twitter huh? You know, I could be completely wrong about this, but I wouldn't be at all suprised if she got involved with mlp again. She's showing a lot of interest in it, and I think mlp could be the real jumping point in her career where she goes from being 'known' to 'huge'.

Maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part. Such a smart, talented young woman, I hope we get her back.

@Hasbro and bronies

I think you can rest assured that they aren't just ignoring us. I mean, don't we outnumber the target demographic like 10 to 1? Hasbro isn't stupid and I'm sure they've got some smart fuckers thinking of how they can convert those numbers into dollars. They want us to stick around, else they wouldn't let us get away with massively pirating their copyrighted material the way we do.

The executive who figures out how to start squeezing serious profit out of us has probably been promised his weight in gold. Ah delicious gold, the softest and sweetest of the heavy metals.

"Finally, you say that the internet traffic has not boosted sales. AT ALL. That’s quite a statement"
That is quite a statement, one I didn't say. I said that I doubt bronies are a major factor in mlp coming on top. Not that they haven't boated sales At All. They just don't make a big impact is my point. obviously bronies buy some shit, but really not much.

The only nod I'll give you is derpy. That's the only one really that is exclusively for bronies. But the rest are just jokes for older people watching or for their own amusement. Cartoons always done that.

"As for boys consuming video games more than toys these days, I can see that to some degree, but I don’t think that it accounts for the entire disparity between brands. "

But you see bronies doing that? I'm not saying video games have over taken toys, but they do make a differance, especially when talking about a girl brand selling more considering boys under 12 are a lot more likely to play video games.

My main point is not to give bronies to much credit. They obviously have some effect, but not as much as many think.

Edit: remember, the argument here is if bronies are a big part of the reason why mlp sales are on top, not whether or not the boost sales at all. Obvoiusly they do a bit. But not enough to put mlp on top. Also, welovefine isn't exactly Bloomingdales or Macy's, they are cashing in on Bronies because they are small enough to afford to do that. Don't take it as a sign that bronies generate a lot of revenue

Imho there is no real way to see how big the fandom is, how insignificant it is and how much Hasbro cares about it.

Bronies do generate a lot of noise though, through art, animation, music and posting stuff which is kinda neat for Hasbro because free advertisement. Hasbro also aims to have good reputation afaik; they don't want to make a bunch of vocal people on the internet angry.

The thing is that Hasbro doesn't have to cater to bronies because bronies like the show and the merch just the way it is (minus the stuff that is very inaccurate to the show).

I think there are quite a lot of bronies actually; I would be surprised if there are less than a million in fact.

New Friendship is Witchcraft out today!

Raincloud is best pony!