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KYM Pony General V: We Just Don't Know What Went Wrong

Last posted Jul 01, 2012 at 04:43PM EDT. Added Feb 19, 2012 at 11:27PM EST
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@Engie
ALL OF MY LOVE.


Can we have a page get for Fluttershy?

If… um… that’s okay with you…

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Apr 17, 2012 at 09:09AM EDT
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PopperFett the Mandalore wrote:

Jolly Jew.
There’s a link in my bio.
I’ll message you with all this information.
Gonna have to friend me though.

what information/ why do i have to friend you in order to share it with me?

and @bluescreen.

they ruined a character for no real reson and slapped it’s fanbase in the face. this is BS i can’t stand.

Apr 17, 2012 at 09:15AM EDT
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Jolly Jew wrote:

what information/ why do i have to friend you in order to share it with me?

and @bluescreen.

they ruined a character for no real reson and slapped it’s fanbase in the face. this is BS i can’t stand.

Read this. Back when this was still fresh news and there were jimmies rustled everywhere, Verbose wrote it in response to Gigatoast. He makes some very convincing points as to why it was a good thing to change Derpy.


While anybody who knows a lot about internet culture would know that ‘Derp’ usually isn’t a slur against the mentally handicapped, a child or parent watching the show would not know that. They’d see a pony with a strange voice and wall-eyes acting a little slow, and since ‘Derpy’ sounds like a slur (kinda like saying ‘duh’ when insulting someone’s intelligence) they might see it as a joke about the mentally disabled. I know people argue against this by saying, “we should be allowed to make jokes, this is political correctness gone mad!”, but try to put yourself in their position. If you or your child was mentally handicapped, and you perceived that scene as being an attack on such people, you’d have every right to be offended. Obviously some people were offended, since Hasbro received enough complaints to warrant a change to the scene. They probably could have just changed her name, but I guess they changed her voice and eyes too just to be sure they fixed the problem.

Also, you have to read the email on this page from Amy-Keating Rogers, the writer for the Derpy scene. If you’re still a little pissed off over Derpy’s portrayal, then please read the whole email. Here’s a short section of the email that explains why they felt they should change her:

“But then when I did more in-depth searches, I discovered that one definition is “retarded.”
Now, you have to realize that reading that made my heart sink. My son Soren (of Soarin’ fame) is severely disabled. We do not use the word “retarded” in our house because it really has become an offensive slur. And while I knew that it was only a minority of people that defined “derpy” this way, it still upset me that I was the writer that put that name out there. It was painfully ironic and goes against the fact that I’m an advocate for the disabled.”

Later in the email, she explains the solutions they’d considered, and that she was aware that she would offend some fans. And you know what? She wasn’t happy with that fact. This wasn’t an easy decision for them to make.

So, it’s fair to say that Hasbro had good reasons to change the character. I wouldn’t say they ‘slapped us in the face’, but they definitely could have handled the situation better. The email I linked above is a perfect way of handling a situation like this: somebody directly linked to the problem at hand contacted the fans directly to explain the situation and the reasons behind their actions. The problem with the Derpy controversy was that Hasbro kept us in the dark for too long, making changes behind the scenes without ever letting us know why they doing such things. That’s the only thing I think they did wrong. As much as I liked the old Derpy more, I think it was a good thing that they changed her. We can still watch the original version on YouTube, and fandom depictions of Derpy are still intact, so it’s not like we’ve really lost anything.

/old topic

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Apr 17, 2012 at 09:48AM EDT
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@twins
Deadmau5? Dubstep?


@algeron
Call me crazy, but I don’t think that essay that verbose wrote will change his opinion on the subject( didn’t change mine).I don’t think we have to get everyone to agree that Derpy getting changed was a good. Dont get me wrong, it’s well written, but it’s his opinion and I think we are all entitled to our own opinion. Still, the subject shouldnt be brought up anymore really.
For the record, I agree that on a business standpoint that was the best course of action, but people need to calm down and not get offense so easily. I don’t really care though.

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Apr 17, 2012 at 10:34AM EDT
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Jolly Jew wrote:

what information/ why do i have to friend you in order to share it with me?

and @bluescreen.

they ruined a character for no real reson and slapped it’s fanbase in the face. this is BS i can’t stand.

It’s okay JJ. Relax and lay down and repeat after me.

Everything is gonna be okay
Everything is alright

Everything is gonna be okay
Everything is alright

Everything is gonna be okay
Everything is alright

Everything is gonna be okay
Everything is alright

Everything is gonna be okay
Everything is alright

Everything is gonna be okay
Everything is alright

Apr 17, 2012 at 10:52AM EDT
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Jolly Jew wrote:

what information/ why do i have to friend you in order to share it with me?

and @bluescreen.

they ruined a character for no real reson and slapped it’s fanbase in the face. this is BS i can’t stand.

Sorry.
In my profile, under “about”, there should be this sentence:
“We know nothing of him, seriosly!”
And under it should be a website. I know, it’s .web, but that’s all we had to work with. If you want, you can check it out. Don’t let any of these guys prevent you from otherwise.
The reason I said friend me was so I could message you with an overlay on what that site’s about.
Again, it’s if you want to. I’m not forcing you to do anything.
And @the rest of the forum
Let me hash it out with JollyJew. If he wants to help, great, but don’t tell us otherwise. Just getting it out there in case he wants to.

Apr 17, 2012 at 11:38AM EDT
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The thread is on fire! Quick, post Fluttershy to put it out!

Apr 17, 2012 at 12:34PM EDT

le creepypasta

And obligatory Derp Squad.

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Apr 17, 2012 at 12:36PM EDT
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By the way, I keep saying I’m in the brony party in the President thread thingy, BUT EVERYONE KEEPS OMITTING ME.

I’m beginning to feel either unimportant or undervalued.

Apr 17, 2012 at 01:10PM EDT
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Saporian wrote:


The thread is on fire! Quick, post Fluttershy to put it out!

Fire?

Oh my…

Apr 17, 2012 at 01:50PM EDT
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Bruelock wrote:

Looks like hotdiggitydemon release the beginning of the next chapter.

MFW>I see this.

I hope japple gets her tumblr back…

Apr 17, 2012 at 02:58PM EDT

aerolyt wrote:

By the way, I keep saying I’m in the brony party in the President thread thingy, BUT EVERYONE KEEPS OMITTING ME.

I’m beginning to feel either unimportant or undervalued.

Join the JIMMY PARTY

We’ll give you a cabinet position and those jimmies of yours will be nice an unrustled.


@JJ

they ruined a character for no real reson and slapped it’s fanbase in the face.

Sorry to be mean but this persistent whining is BS that I can’t stand. I really am sick and tired of hearing about it.

Go talk with unknown unknown about it, he will listen to you on the subject. I will not

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Apr 17, 2012 at 04:04PM EDT
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ExudesAffluence wrote:

@Twins

Call me what you will, but it just dawned on me how inappropriatly a pony might take “plothole.”

>Implying that’s not the first thing you thought of.

Molestia and Twi in the image, they’re just asking for it.

Apr 17, 2012 at 04:09PM EDT
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RandomMan wrote:

>Implying that’s not the first thing you thought of.

Molestia and Twi in the image, they’re just asking for it.

I’ve failed us all. I’ve doomed us to Molestia jimmy-rustling.

@Fluttershy

Don’t try and convince me Fluttershy wouldn’t make a great ecoterrorist.

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Apr 17, 2012 at 04:16PM EDT
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Jolly Jew wrote:

what information/ why do i have to friend you in order to share it with me?

and @bluescreen.

they ruined a character for no real reson and slapped it’s fanbase in the face. this is BS i can’t stand.

You wanna know what’s ruining Derpy?

Not Hasbro, not the episode, not anything like that.

It’s butthurt people like you who simply can’t fucking shut up about the situation.


We got Derpy in an episode because Hasbro loves us and wanted to return something to us. If the episode was never released we wouldn’t even care. We would never be aware of Derpy becoming canon. We might be asking for it, but we wouldn’t bother with it if it didn’t happen. And now that Hasbro gave us a canon fan-made character, you people are still busy with your goddamn complaining.

“But haters/moms/kids/trolls/cripples/whatever ruined it for us! Reasons are stupid! Blabla hurrdurr.”

If you check out all the points like in Verbose’s document, you’ll see they had perfect reasons to change it.

If something like Derpy getting a voice change rustles you this much, how the hell do you get your daily chores done without going beserk?

Derpy doesn’t even have a voice in fanworks. And if she gets one in an animation, it’s almost never the same voice. As it’s a fan giving her the voice. So how the fuck can a voice for a fanon character rustle you this much?

Can’t you just be happy Derpy is still in the episode? That they didn’t had to remove the complete scene forever, only to never be seen again?


And now we drop the fucking topic about Derpy’s voice.

/rant

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Apr 17, 2012 at 04:20PM EDT
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…..I get back from school and find the thread in flames. I am disappointed, guys. We all know that’s my job to start the thread on its firey downfall into the pits of hell. Not yours, not the trolls’, mine. Now, to try and get this thread back on topic, here:

Get it now, fandom? Normal Celestia is best Celestia.

Apr 17, 2012 at 05:24PM EDT
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Sooo…
I go somewhere for a few hours, come back, and find the forum in flame.
Listen up,
STOP CRITICIZING JJ
I was frankly upset too. But you all know my position. If he wants to do something, great. Don’t stop or tell him otherwise. Just because you want to lay on your arse and do nothing about it doesn’t mean me or him have to. I’m not gonna let another flame war start about this.
Bottom line: Wanna help, then great. Ya don’t, then don’t bitch to the people that do.

Apr 17, 2012 at 05:43PM EDT
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PopperFett the Mandalore wrote:

Sooo…
I go somewhere for a few hours, come back, and find the forum in flame.
Listen up,
STOP CRITICIZING JJ
I was frankly upset too. But you all know my position. If he wants to do something, great. Don’t stop or tell him otherwise. Just because you want to lay on your arse and do nothing about it doesn’t mean me or him have to. I’m not gonna let another flame war start about this.
Bottom line: Wanna help, then great. Ya don’t, then don’t bitch to the people that do.

My post was directed to everyone.

Jolly’s post was just the final drop.


@Lolstaz

I love you.

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Apr 17, 2012 at 06:02PM EDT
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Pyro wrote:

Get it now, fandom? Normal Celestia is best Celestia.

But how can you not like Molestia? She’s so sweet and innocent! I mean, just look at her!

D’aww, she’s adorable! I bet she doesn’t have a single diminishing quality! Nope, not a single one!

Wait, what?! What do you mean she rapes ponies?!


Unknown wrote:

Sooo…
I go somewhere for a few hours, come back, and find the forum in flame.
Listen up,
STOP CRITICIZING JJ
I was frankly upset too. But you all know my position. If he wants to do something, great. Don’t stop or tell him otherwise. Just because you want to lay on your arse and do nothing about it doesn’t mean me or him have to. I’m not gonna let another flame war start about this.
Bottom line: Wanna help, then great. Ya don’t, then don’t bitch to the people that do.

Sorry for keeping this argument going, but I’ve got some problems with that post. We should be allowed to criticise people when we think they’re doing something wrong. Please don’t tell us what we can and can’t say.

We aren’t ‘bitching’ to the people that want to ‘help’. We don’t even think you’re helping, and we’re criticising you because we think you’re doing something wrong. We’re not ‘laying on our arses’ while you fight a holy war for us. We just don’t think you’re fighting for anything good. If you actually read the email I posted, you’ll see that Hasbro had their reasons for changing Derpy. I’m not thrilled by the change, but I respect their decision, and I won’t go around whining about it until they change it back. That will only serve to worsen the reputation of our fandom.

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Apr 17, 2012 at 06:10PM EDT
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Look, I can definitely give out my opinions on this.
But instead of listening to a Engie
Have this.
Hopefully it could change the subject.

Apr 17, 2012 at 06:22PM EDT
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This not the kind of crap I need to deal with right now. I know the issue’s been going on for months. I know you guys are all tired of it. And I know you don’t like it when the issue comes up. That’s why I don’t like flame wars starting over it.
All I ask is that you let me hash it out with the people that may want to help. That’s all I want to do. I do not want to rustle anyone’s jimmies or start a f***king flame war. Don’t get mad, just let me talk to these people.
I hate arguing with you guys, and I really think its unfortunate that it comes to that.
I must say, as small as the Derpy thing may seem, it still is a fight worth fighting for as long as people want to help. So just let us do what we can. You don’t have to agree with us, but don’t hate us or tell us otherwise.
NOW STOP THIS MADNESS AND FOCUS ON THIS IMAGE OF TWILIGHT SPARKLE BEHAVING LIKE A CoD PLAYER:

Apr 17, 2012 at 06:23PM EDT
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This simply will not do…

We go into this fight, nearly unopposed.

I will have NONE of it. We are BRONIES! We are MEN! We fight not for bullshit, like our opponents! WE FIGHT FOR DA PONIZ!

So, I tell you, get your fat asses into that thread, throw an application at that shit, and help lead the bronies to victory! If you got the balls for it, that is…

Apr 17, 2012 at 06:36PM EDT
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I am entering this fray to respond to Unknown.

Unknown wrote:

I know you guys are all tired of it. And I know you don’t like it when the issue comes up. That’s why I don’t like flame wars starting over it.

This is simple. DO NOT POST ABOUT IT HERE.

All I ask is that you let me hash it out with the people that may want to help.

If all this has taught you anything, it should be that there is no one here who cares or who wants to help. Although we may not like the change, we have accepted it as being for the best.

That’s all I want to do. I do not want to rustle anyone’s jimmies or start a f***king flame war. Don’t get mad, just let me talk to these people. I hate arguing with you guys, and I really think its unfortunate that it comes to that.

Once again, this is simple. If you don’t want to argue with us, then don’t start the arguments. We do not take kindly to people who keep bringing up Derpy. We have dealt with this issue extensively in the past, and we do not want to keep beating a dead horse, as it were.

I must say, as small as the Derpy thing may seem, it still is a fight worth fighting for as long as people want to help. So just let us do what we can. You don’t have to agree with us, but don’t hate us or tell us otherwise.

This is your war, not ours. So stop bringing it to us. We’ve let the issue go. If you really want to stop having arguments with us, you have to recognize our opinions about it, and realize that we don’t care about your crusade.

Long story short: Stop bringing it up.

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Apr 17, 2012 at 06:36PM EDT
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Explosive Lasers AKA Solaire AKA Sexiest wrote:

I assume this means Jeb will be forced to add horses into Minecraft.

And I also assume they will be able to be dyed.

And bred?

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I’m just leaving the topic at this:
If you want to help, then PM me and I’ll hash it out with you. *
*I am not gonna start another arguement here. I am very much sorry for the heat and butthurt I caused

Well, it seems that I’m probably not gonna be welcome here for a while, so I’ll unsub and leave it at this:


again, not you guys’ fault; just seeing the fact that I am probably not well liked here

Apr 17, 2012 at 07:10PM EDT
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Algernon wrote:

Twins wrote:

Ooh, I like me some drum and bass. It’s like dubstep, except it doesn’t suck.

>mfw

True dat. I like quite a few dubstep songs, but I don’t deny that there’s a lot of crappy dubstep out there. Instead of sounding like music it’s more like having somebody with bad breath scream in your face for a few minutes while repeatedly punching you in the gut.

+1 respect points

Wait a second, what’s this?


Twins wrote:

But seriously, I really don’t have anything against dubstep. I actually like listening to (good) dubstep remixes on Youtube. Now those people actually have talent. It’s just that Skillrex and Dead Mau5 have, well, (looks for shitstorm-free word) harmed the reputation of the entire genre as a whole.

>Implying deadmau5 is dubstep
>Implying deadmau5 is spelled ‘Dead Mau5’
>Implying deadmau5 lacks talent
>mfw

Sorry, but you’re gonna have to hand back that respect point.

(I kid)

He is dubstep, or at least, that’s the direction his music is going nowadays (I think). I didn’t really mean anything with that, but yeah, sorry for putting him in Skillrex in the same sentence. Deadmau5 isn’t actually that bad, I mean, I don’t love his music, but it’s not bad either. He can actually do some cool stuff, instead of reusing the same ear-splitting and repetitive beats like some “dubstep” artists out there (who I shall not mention here).

You and dac has permission to PM spam me with R34 or whatever.


Apr 17, 2012 at 07:11PM EDT
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Can I ask why there is so much negging? Even opspe’s good post went from 6 or 7 back down to 0.
Also I think I kinda snapped in my latest post in this thread.

Apr 17, 2012 at 07:27PM EDT
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The first two top rules of the MLP thread.
#1. Do not talk about Derpy.
#2. Do NOT talk about Derpy.

Apr 17, 2012 at 08:12PM EDT
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What’s with all the negative karma? I don’t get it. Why bother putting up negative karma if you don’t agree with someone. Just move on.

And now, the great and powerful Trixie shall take this thread for herself.

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Apr 17, 2012 at 08:29PM EDT
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@thread

You’ll know I’ll fucking do it. I’ll choke all you bitches.

Apr 17, 2012 at 08:31PM EDT
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Cuz Imma slap a hoe today.

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Apr 17, 2012 at 08:35PM EDT

Ugh. Don’t get me wrong Jolly, I was kinda butthurt about the derpy change too, but now I just feel silly caring about it at all anymore. Don’t you feel silly too? Even a little?

now let’s all sit our asses down in a chair and drink some goddamn TEA!

Oh, and nice article, Fridge.

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Apr 17, 2012 at 09:13PM EDT
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Kanye West wrote:

I think I’ll just leave this here…

^This

The only people hasbro owes anything to are their shareholders and employees. Before you even entertain the idea that as loyal viewers Hasbro owe us bronies, keep in mind that as the largest toy company in the world, we represent less than 0.1% of their cliental. If we all disappeared from the face of the planet, Hasbro sales wouldn’t change at all really. Just be happy that they acknowledge us at all and let them run their business as they see fit.

Not pony related, but funny as shit

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Apr 17, 2012 at 09:44PM EDT
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@Connor




I rustled someone’s jimmies :P

@ Tea Time Discussion
I say, I would love a spot of tea, do you have a lump of sugar and a scone?

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Apr 17, 2012 at 10:03PM EDT
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Oh why yes madam derpy i would love a scone to go with this lovely tea, what flavor did you say this was again because it tastes like purple….

Apr 17, 2012 at 10:09PM EDT

@Tea time

WHY YES I WOULD LIKE SOME TEA OLD BEAN! GET ME SOME FUCKING TEA YAH WANKER!

Apr 17, 2012 at 10:15PM EDT
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