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Pokemon Black 2 and Pokemon White 2

Last posted Feb 28, 2012 at 01:25PM EST. Added Feb 25, 2012 at 06:46PM EST
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Man, I nearly juiced in my rind when I saw this.

Different player characters, move tutors, travel to another region is a distinct possibility, heavy emphasis on N

Feb 27, 2012 at 10:27PM EST
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Jack Candle wrote:

Man, I nearly juiced in my rind when I saw this.

Different player characters, move tutors, travel to another region is a distinct possibility, heavy emphasis on N

All of that would be fantastic, especially the new region. It’s also nice that we don’t have to buy a 3DS to play the game.

Feb 27, 2012 at 11:03PM EST
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I personally enjoyed the Gen III plotline simply because there were two antagonists. The game was a battle of nature vs. nature, two commonly-seen opposing forces, not because there were “bad guys” (well there were but shut up).

But the Gen V storyline was incredible. It was not your typical bad-guys-taking-over-the-world plot; it actually had an idea to think about:

“Are Pokémon slaves to us?”

And when you think about it, it’s actually a very controversial topic. It isn’t exactly black and white (bahaha). GameFreak did well with the concept, and built on it very nicely by presenting an anti-hero, not just a “rival” or “that douche that stole the other starter from the lab”. The antagonists, Team Plasma, had some kind of concrete basis to their ideals. They are sort of like a PETA but not nearly as radically retarded and since this is Pokémon it would be PETP (do ho ho). It was a matter of ethical principle, not like Team Rocket who wanted to take over the world and be generic like that. Both were obviously out of line, but I feel that Team Plasma had a standpoint that could easily correlate with some other controversial topics of today.

Which brings me to another point, in which Gen V defined today’s world. Sure, you may have some “bad” designs like Garbodor or Klinklang or something, but both designs symbolize a crucial part of industry. You also have the huge freaking cities and bridges that are like…HUGE…and…BIG. The whole atmosphere of Gen V just embodied modern times as a whole, and I like that (steampunk ftw).
I’m trying not to sound like some English teacher making you over-analyze every single word in a book you are forced to read but I hope some of you get what I’m getting at.

"Also, I got a kick out of this":I personally enjoyed the Gen III plotline simply because there were two antagonists. The game was a battle of nature vs. nature, two commonly-seen opposing forces, not because there were “bad guys” (well there were but shut up).

But the Gen V storyline was incredible. It was not your typical bad-guys-taking-over-the-world plot; it actually had an idea to think about:

“Are Pokémon slaves to us?”

And when you think about it, it’s actually a very controversial topic. It isn’t exactly black and white (bahaha). GameFreak did well with the concept, and built on it very nicely by presenting an anti-hero, not just a “rival” or “that douche that stole the other starter from the lab”. The antagonists, Team Plasma, had some kind of concrete basis to their ideals. They are sort of like a PETA but not nearly as radically retarded and since this is Pokémon it would be PETP (do ho ho). It was a matter of ethical principle, not like Team Rocket who wanted to take over the world and be generic like that. Both were obviously out of line, but I feel that Team Plasma had a standpoint that could easily correlate with some other controversial topics of today.

Which brings me to another point, in which Gen V defined today’s world. Sure, you may have some “bad” designs like Garbodor or Klinklang or something, but both designs symbolize a crucial part of industry. You also have the huge freaking cities and bridges that are like…HUGE…and…BIG. The whole atmosphere of Gen V just embodied modern times as a whole, and I like that (steampunk ftw).
I’m trying not to sound like some English teacher making you over-analyze every single word in a book you are forced to read but I hope some of you get what I’m getting at.

Also, I got a kick out of this
(it is in a URL because it is long)

Feb 28, 2012 at 01:38AM EST
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Iced Hot Chocolate wrote:

I personally enjoyed the Gen III plotline simply because there were two antagonists. The game was a battle of nature vs. nature, two commonly-seen opposing forces, not because there were “bad guys” (well there were but shut up).

But the Gen V storyline was incredible. It was not your typical bad-guys-taking-over-the-world plot; it actually had an idea to think about:

“Are Pokémon slaves to us?”

And when you think about it, it’s actually a very controversial topic. It isn’t exactly black and white (bahaha). GameFreak did well with the concept, and built on it very nicely by presenting an anti-hero, not just a “rival” or “that douche that stole the other starter from the lab”. The antagonists, Team Plasma, had some kind of concrete basis to their ideals. They are sort of like a PETA but not nearly as radically retarded and since this is Pokémon it would be PETP (do ho ho). It was a matter of ethical principle, not like Team Rocket who wanted to take over the world and be generic like that. Both were obviously out of line, but I feel that Team Plasma had a standpoint that could easily correlate with some other controversial topics of today.

Which brings me to another point, in which Gen V defined today’s world. Sure, you may have some “bad” designs like Garbodor or Klinklang or something, but both designs symbolize a crucial part of industry. You also have the huge freaking cities and bridges that are like…HUGE…and…BIG. The whole atmosphere of Gen V just embodied modern times as a whole, and I like that (steampunk ftw).
I’m trying not to sound like some English teacher making you over-analyze every single word in a book you are forced to read but I hope some of you get what I’m getting at.

"Also, I got a kick out of this":I personally enjoyed the Gen III plotline simply because there were two antagonists. The game was a battle of nature vs. nature, two commonly-seen opposing forces, not because there were “bad guys” (well there were but shut up).

But the Gen V storyline was incredible. It was not your typical bad-guys-taking-over-the-world plot; it actually had an idea to think about:

“Are Pokémon slaves to us?”

And when you think about it, it’s actually a very controversial topic. It isn’t exactly black and white (bahaha). GameFreak did well with the concept, and built on it very nicely by presenting an anti-hero, not just a “rival” or “that douche that stole the other starter from the lab”. The antagonists, Team Plasma, had some kind of concrete basis to their ideals. They are sort of like a PETA but not nearly as radically retarded and since this is Pokémon it would be PETP (do ho ho). It was a matter of ethical principle, not like Team Rocket who wanted to take over the world and be generic like that. Both were obviously out of line, but I feel that Team Plasma had a standpoint that could easily correlate with some other controversial topics of today.

Which brings me to another point, in which Gen V defined today’s world. Sure, you may have some “bad” designs like Garbodor or Klinklang or something, but both designs symbolize a crucial part of industry. You also have the huge freaking cities and bridges that are like…HUGE…and…BIG. The whole atmosphere of Gen V just embodied modern times as a whole, and I like that (steampunk ftw).
I’m trying not to sound like some English teacher making you over-analyze every single word in a book you are forced to read but I hope some of you get what I’m getting at.

Also, I got a kick out of this
(it is in a URL because it is long)

The story for Gen V was pretty amazing actually. I’ll agree with you on that.

It’s too bad they were stuck in the collect 8 badges, beat elite 4, catch ’em all mentality. If they just expanded on the morality of Team Plasma, and got rid of, or at least seriously downplayed the standard formula of pokemon games, think of how much better it would be.

And why did you write the exact same thing twice?

Feb 28, 2012 at 02:01AM EST
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Twins the Serendipitous Serval wrote:

The story for Gen V was pretty amazing actually. I’ll agree with you on that.

It’s too bad they were stuck in the collect 8 badges, beat elite 4, catch ’em all mentality. If they just expanded on the morality of Team Plasma, and got rid of, or at least seriously downplayed the standard formula of pokemon games, think of how much better it would be.

And why did you write the exact same thing twice?

Wait, crap, did I like…accidentally copy part of it somehow…?
wat

But I did like how they kind of expanded on Team Plasma how you can go and find the other Sages and they also go more in-depth with…whatever they talk to you about.

Feb 28, 2012 at 02:12AM EST
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404 user not found wrote:

this one has an alternate story line

as for it being a sequel and not grey. it doesnt matter, im still going to port over my steelix and pwn all the dragon noobs. (and all the other noobs since steelix is strong against almost all types)

theres a reason none of the wandering assholes trainers never have one

It’s really a sequel?
What the fuck happened to Grey?
Most importantly, will there be new Pokemon?

Feb 28, 2012 at 02:15AM EST
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It’s too bad they were stuck in the collect 8 badges, beat elite 4, catch ’em all mentality. If they just expanded on the morality of Team Plasma, and got rid of, or at least seriously downplayed the standard formula of pokemon games, think of how much better it would be.

It would not. It wouldn’t be enjoyable for the target demographic. It’s not 2 year olds, but most people can’t really begin to grasp morality on a basic level beyond simple fear-of-punishment/desire-for-reward until they’re teens. And the target is probably 8-12 years of age.

Furthermore, why fix it if it ain’t broke? I like the get the 8 badge, beat the Elite Four, and catch (the ones I want) mentality. It has made Pokémon one of the best selling-franchises ever without getting into more mature and complicated questions of morality. There’s no need to make that change in terms of sales, and I still enjoy each generation of the series thoroughly.

Kirby is cute. Zelda is an adventuring game. Mario is a platformer. Pokémon is a monster-catching RPG. They’re all awesome at their genre without having to make a ton of changes or even significant ones.
 
I may change some small things, but the fact that fighting the Elite Four in whatever order you want, having to fight N and Dennis (his name is Dennis, darn it, I heard the voices say DENNIS) at the end, having the gym leaders actually be more involved in the story where there are multiple gym leaders you can fight in the first and last gyms, and having, like, a sequel shows me that they are willing to make things a little different.
 
I dunno. I’m good with it the way it is.


It’s really a sequel?

I don’t think any one publicly knows yet, but I’d think that it occurs immediately after the events of Black/White. My thinking is that you’d start in…whatever the town is with the really chill music, and you’d travel through Unova as per the first games in the 5th generation But the story line isn’t dealing with Team Plasma as you did in the first game like you did in the third installments of the past 3 generations (I never played Yellow, but I assume it was basically the same story.) You’d deal with them in a different way somehow.

I guess you start out in Unova like you started off in Johto in the 2nd generation:

  • Black/White has already defeated Dennis
  • N has already ridden into the credits with his fangirls (i jelly)
  • and Black/White has defeated Alder to become champion
  • (3 years) later…
    • The champion Black/White is doing their thang in some mountain
    • N is sitting on Viridian Island being emo about volcanism (GEO EMO)
    • And you, as Gold/Silver, (Black2/White2) begin your adventure in Unova

What the fuck happened to Grey?

I remember specifically reading that there would be no Gray from some rep. I was never expecting Gray. They basically needed a game to introduce the Ice/Dragon, and they have it. I think GameFreak is set. This is the equivalent of the third game in the series.


Most importantly, will there be new Pokemon?

I’d think not (outside of the legendaries anyway.) It’s not a new generation, so I wouldn’t expect anything new. But then again, who can be sure?

We’ve never seen anything with a “2” behind it. Everything I say is speculation and opinion.


And where are you guys getting this info about a new continent?
Me and Breloom want documentation!


 
 
 
…and cookies maybe! We want cookies!

Feb 28, 2012 at 03:14AM EST

Dang it, I haven’t even got Black/White yet! I better get myself started!

Also, Breloom ROCKS. I screwed over the whole Elite Four with him alone. Not even lvl 100.

Last edited Feb 28, 2012 at 08:02AM EST
Feb 28, 2012 at 08:02AM EST
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As much as I find this to be a complete waste of money and something to the likes of an April Fool’s joke…

I’d still blow forty bucks on it.

Feb 28, 2012 at 12:54PM EST
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Pokemon Black and White 2? So that’s what happens when they run out of colours and gems… :P

Seriously though, Gen V was my second favourite batch of Pokemon games (after Gen I), so I’m really looking forward to this!

Feb 28, 2012 at 12:59PM EST
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So this would be like Yellow, Crystal and Platinum. I don’t know why people are so mad about
it. I totally expected this to happen.

Also, the titles are the most original thing ever.

Feb 28, 2012 at 01:24PM EST
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Lola Landa wrote:

So this would be like Yellow, Crystal and Platinum. I don’t know why people are so mad about
it. I totally expected this to happen.

Also, the titles are the most original thing ever.

A lot of people I know who also like Pokemon aren’t really mad, they just didn’t expect this. I mean, I expected Gray, not this. I embrace this idea nonetheless; it’s something different than just adding a third game to the generations.

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Feb 28, 2012 at 01:25PM EST
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