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Last posted Jul 21, 2012 at 10:21PM EDT. Added Jun 30, 2012 at 01:49PM EDT
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Katie C. wrote:

Both are out of the question.
When will you realise that it is not a 3rd party game that can fit in?

It can fit in if it’s done right.

It’s just a matter of getting someone on-board that won’t make it all kiddy looking just so Mario won’t look out of place.


Mario Party-based stage? What are you smoking, KI..D?

Jul 18, 2012 at 12:26AM EDT

Having a Mario Party stage isn’t too ludicrous, but it would have to be creative

Jul 18, 2012 at 12:30AM EDT
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Katie C. wrote:

Having a Mario Party stage isn’t too ludicrous, but it would have to be creative

It would be too wild for me.

Granted, the Great Fox stages and F-Zero GP courses are some of my favorite levels in the series, and they’re not exactly “static”. But a Mario Party stage seems like it would be too similar to the Wario Ware stage from Brawl, and I hated that stage.

Jul 18, 2012 at 12:33AM EDT

What I do want to see in the game are less stages like Temple that just slow the match down.
Anyone good at teching can stay in the caves without dying beyond 400%

Jul 18, 2012 at 12:46AM EDT
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Katie C. wrote:

I thought the Wario Ware stage was very novel.

Exactly, we should have more stages that are interactive like that.

Jul 18, 2012 at 12:56AM EDT
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Katie C. wrote:

What I do want to see in the game are less stages like Temple that just slow the match down.
Anyone good at teching can stay in the caves without dying beyond 400%

Actually, surprisingly, I liked Temple.

Then again, while I don’t really practice any of the high end techniques, I do prefer the more “hardcore” gameplay rules.

As for the Wario Ware stage, it was nothing but a gimmick.

Jul 18, 2012 at 01:09AM EDT

Regarding Assist Trophies: None of the 8-bit or 16-bit horse-crap. Everyone would have recognized Lakitu, Infantry and Tanks, and Excitebikes even if they weren’t pixilated. Andross on the other hand, nobody would have ever known it was him if they weren’t told that! Seriously Nintendo, we don’t need the blatant Nostalgia Trip half of us don’t have!

Also, they wasted perfectly good useable playable characters in the Assist Trophy Line Up:
Lyn, Issac, Saki, Waluigi, Little Mac, Samurai Goroh… just so many missed opportunities.

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Jul 18, 2012 at 02:35AM EDT
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Natsuru Springfield wrote:

Regarding Assist Trophies: None of the 8-bit or 16-bit horse-crap. Everyone would have recognized Lakitu, Infantry and Tanks, and Excitebikes even if they weren’t pixilated. Andross on the other hand, nobody would have ever known it was him if they weren’t told that! Seriously Nintendo, we don’t need the blatant Nostalgia Trip half of us don’t have!

Also, they wasted perfectly good useable playable characters in the Assist Trophy Line Up:
Lyn, Issac, Saki, Waluigi, Little Mac, Samurai Goroh… just so many missed opportunities.

Excitebikes were never in 3D though.
So, they’d be better in 2D

Jul 18, 2012 at 11:03AM EDT
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American Tanker, Hell on Tracks wrote:

It’s not like those stages would have to show the full destruction potential inherent in the “Steel Carnage” system. And besides, you’re likely expecting there to be ground units, even infantry to be involved, aren’t you?

Neither the battle against the Aigaion nor the attack on Miami involved any surface units, as far as I remember. Especially not any infantry. And if you’re expecting that Warwolf Squadron would end up dropping a few S-bombs, they don’t have to. It wouldn’t change a thing about them to cut out every swear word they ever spoke.

As if that wasn’t enough, both AC06 and AC:AH were rated T for Teen by the ESRB. Maybe that isn’t as good as an E for Everyone or an E10+, but I seriously doubt if it would do enough harm to bring an M for Mature. Besides, wasn’t Melee given a T?

I don’t think it’s nearly as bad as you think it is. It could happen.

You’re making your wants a bit too biased towards your personal opinion. It’s not like you think they’ll make good stages, it’s more that you just want stages that appeal to your love for big machinery and weaponry.

You have to remember that it’s still a Nintendo game. There are 3rd parties involved, but their vote is still limited.

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Jul 18, 2012 at 11:11AM EDT
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Natsuru Springfield wrote:

Regarding Assist Trophies: None of the 8-bit or 16-bit horse-crap. Everyone would have recognized Lakitu, Infantry and Tanks, and Excitebikes even if they weren’t pixilated. Andross on the other hand, nobody would have ever known it was him if they weren’t told that! Seriously Nintendo, we don’t need the blatant Nostalgia Trip half of us don’t have!

Also, they wasted perfectly good useable playable characters in the Assist Trophy Line Up:
Lyn, Issac, Saki, Waluigi, Little Mac, Samurai Goroh… just so many missed opportunities.

I know. So many missed opportunities. Hell, look at this snippet from the Smash Bros. Dojo:

The creators said that he had no problem fitting in. Why then, would you decide to put him as Assist Trophy only?

Jul 18, 2012 at 01:13PM EDT
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Derpy Hooves wrote:

I know. So many missed opportunities. Hell, look at this snippet from the Smash Bros. Dojo:

The creators said that he had no problem fitting in. Why then, would you decide to put him as Assist Trophy only?

Because Sakurai.

At this point, it would be cool to have Isa in as a character. You could have the Ruffian from be the Final Smash, have the Charge Shot be the B special, and I’m not entirely sure what else yet.

Jul 18, 2012 at 01:42PM EDT
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They invented nearly all the moves for Marth, Peach, Fox, Rob, etc. I am certain they could have gotten enough moves on Saki.

Jul 18, 2012 at 01:49PM EDT
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They need a super mario galaxy stage where you can get knocked off in all directions but also stand anywhere with lots of map hazards

Jul 18, 2012 at 02:15PM EDT
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404 user not found wrote:

They need a super mario galaxy stage where you can get knocked off in all directions but also stand anywhere with lots of map hazards

Mind giving a little specificity?

Jul 18, 2012 at 02:22PM EDT
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404 user not found wrote:

They need a super mario galaxy stage where you can get knocked off in all directions but also stand anywhere with lots of map hazards

Due to the Damage = Gravity thing, there would be a sweet spot where you would be able to do this:

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Jul 18, 2012 at 02:24PM EDT
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RandomMan wrote:

You’re making your wants a bit too biased towards your personal opinion. It’s not like you think they’ll make good stages, it’s more that you just want stages that appeal to your love for big machinery and weaponry.

You have to remember that it’s still a Nintendo game. There are 3rd parties involved, but their vote is still limited.

Maybe I am.

But be glad I never mentioned anything about Mass Effect, Crysis or Ghost Recon. I’d really want anything from any of those three in some manner of crossover game, but you don’t see me wrecking this thread with them.

At least Ace Combat is by Namco Bandai, one of the companies involved in the making of this new SSB game. Besides, isn’t AC one of their flagship franchises?

Jul 18, 2012 at 03:41PM EDT

American Tanker, Hell on Tracks wrote:

Maybe I am.

But be glad I never mentioned anything about Mass Effect, Crysis or Ghost Recon. I’d really want anything from any of those three in some manner of crossover game, but you don’t see me wrecking this thread with them.

At least Ace Combat is by Namco Bandai, one of the companies involved in the making of this new SSB game. Besides, isn’t AC one of their flagship franchises?

Shut up with the Ace Combat. It doesn’t fit in and we’re tired of hearing about it.

Jul 18, 2012 at 03:48PM EDT
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I have an idea for an assist trophy

it destroys people with it’s pointlessness.

Jul 18, 2012 at 04:08PM EDT
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Katie C. wrote:

Shut up with the Ace Combat. It doesn’t fit in and we’re tired of hearing about it.

It doesn’t fit in to you.

Jul 18, 2012 at 04:34PM EDT

Namco: Due to the director they have onboard for Smash Brothers 4, it is extremely likely that one or two characters will make it in from the Tales series. Most likely Tales of Symphonia, Tales of the Abyss, and Tales of Vesperia.
In all likelihood, it will be one of the main characters from those games, so we have Lloyd Irving

Luke Fon Fabre and Yuri Lowell

But just as a blind guess, Lloyd and Yuri have a higher chance than Luke. And with Yuri being in the Project X Zone game, he has an advantage over Lloyd.

If they are going to cross over any other series, it will have to come by Popular Demand. Ace Combat has a low chance at this, as it is not that well known outside of it’s fanbase.
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Bandai: After looking around for a bit, I discovered that Bandai, along with being a video game publisher, was also a Toy Maker and Anime/Manga Distributor. Thus most of their Video Games also reflect the fact that they mainly do licensed video games.

However, as they even said in regards to Smash Brothers “I wonder why nobody has asked about Gundam that much [as opposed to Tekken]?”

(wat?)

Anyways, Bandai does not have that many non-licensed games, so it is hard to speculate realistically what they would put in the game.
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Now then, the other co-director that was added worked on nearly all of the Metal Gear Solid Games, and those make up about half of his game producing career. Solid Snake has a good chance of being invited back in.

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Now then, with Katies “Crossover Limit Prediction” of about 3 series, that leaves one slot left open, and likely that will be influenced by a few things:

~Bandai doesn’t have that much material, so unless if they really do get Gundam into the game they will pass this ticket over to Namco.
~Namco has plenty of popular game series, however they will probably want a fan vote at some point or another. Right now Tekken has the spotlight, though a character from Soul Caliber, or (sigh) PacMan may make it in also.

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Jul 18, 2012 at 06:18PM EDT
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Regarding your choices about tales characters, I rule out Abyss, Vesperia, and Replace that with Phantaisa, Graces
The very first Tales ((Phantaisa)) game was on the SNES, and Graces is the only Tales game on the Wii ((Japanese Version)).
Cress ((Phantasia))

Asbel ((Graces))

Last edited Jul 18, 2012 at 06:26PM EDT
Jul 18, 2012 at 06:24PM EDT
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Yoshito Higuchi did not work on Graces or Phantasia therefore it is not likely that his bias would fall onto Cress or Asbel.

And it would keep Abyss (which was also re-released recently on the 3DS I might add) and Vesperia (who has characters Cameo-ing in another Nintendo 3DS game soon) on the list of possibilities quite frankly.

Last edited Jul 18, 2012 at 06:29PM EDT
Jul 18, 2012 at 06:28PM EDT
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It will almost certainly be Lloyd or nobody from Tales.
As for other than Tales, I’d say a character from Soulcalibur, mainly because Link was in Soulcalibur 2.

Gundam is very doubtful since it’s mostly an anime rather than a game.

I’m saying three’s really the limit. Don’t be surprised if there’s only one.

Jul 18, 2012 at 06:30PM EDT
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I would Lol Extremely is it was Spada Belforma
Randomly make it in.
I like his play style, personality, and Hat.
I would lol extremely, some Random Tales of Innocence character makes it in.

Last edited Jul 18, 2012 at 06:42PM EDT
Jul 18, 2012 at 06:41PM EDT
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