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KYM Pony General VI: Return of the Poni

Last posted Apr 19, 2013 at 12:20AM EDT. Added Jul 01, 2012 at 04:43PM EDT
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@ Fighting is Magic

From what I’ve seen so far, this game looks like it’s going to be AWESOME!

I like the Applejack theme, but I think I like the Pinkie Pie theme a little better.

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Jul 05, 2012 at 02:58PM EDT
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Wat? Best theme is Twilight theme!

The Pinkie Pie theme is a bit over the top and too hardstylish. Perhaps it works better in the final game, but i do like the slow down.

Now i am waiting eagerly for the Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash theme.

Jul 05, 2012 at 03:31PM EDT
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@Solaire

I really hope that they raise enough money, I would like to vacate there sometime (and by vacate I mean sit at home on youtube and watch videos of other people vacationing at Equestria :/ )

Jul 05, 2012 at 05:52PM EDT
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@Sloaire
$600,000 just to name some stupid island?
Forget that!
Throw all that money into a genetic engineering lab!
I want a damn pony!

Jul 05, 2012 at 05:59PM EDT
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@solaire
Yeah…. I’m not planning on donating anything to that. That’s an obscene amount of money for something pretty stupid. Whatever though.

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Jul 05, 2012 at 06:08PM EDT
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@Island Equestria

Isn’t there an abused pony fund or something that we could be raising money for instead of these ridiculous vanity projects?

Jul 05, 2012 at 06:45PM EDT
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I was thinking that they were actually building like ponyville and stuff there, but they’re just gonna naming the island and putting a few monuments? Well I take back my previous post, we could be doing more useful stuff than that, like charity or something.

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Jul 05, 2012 at 06:53PM EDT
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Thought process of the guys who started the island project:

guy 1:“hey, how funny would it be if we raised money to name an island equestria?”
Guy 2:“yeah…. We should do that!”
Guy 1:" but wouldn’t that money be better for cancer research, funding schools in third world countries, helping the poor, aids research, or even just instead of people donating their hard earned cash, they buy something for themselves?"
Guy 2:" ……. Yeah…… But fuck that shit bro! Ponies man!"
Guy 1:“……. Fuck yeah! Ponies man!”
Guy 2:" let’s finish this bowl and then we’ll start asking for donations!"

Jul 05, 2012 at 07:21PM EDT
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@Dac, Fifths, Mega
So… we’re going to treat this as if it’s actually serious?
I’m pretty sure this is just a silly joke.
No one in their right mind would ask for $600,000 in donations to found their own island.
The shear magnitude of ridiculousness makes me sure that this is not real in the slightest.

Jul 05, 2012 at 07:29PM EDT
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@DeadParrot222
This is the internet, no one is in their right mind.

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Jul 05, 2012 at 07:34PM EDT

Fifths wrote:

@Island Equestria

Isn’t there an abused pony fund or something that we could be raising money for instead of these ridiculous vanity projects?

There are a few ways to twist this, and many of them have logic. Please consider the logic of the opposing side. Being offensive is necessary at times, but it can also ruin the mood of the situation. Please keep that in mind and decide whether or not being rude is worth it. Thank you.

Yes, I am referring to something else in the recent past that we are not going into on the thread anymore. Send me a PM about it, if you’d like.


Anyway, this is a similar argument that people had against the Brony Thank You commercial. Thousands of dollars are going to a commercial to thank the cast in a professional manner. Couldn’t that money be used on something more worthwhile? Of course, it could.

I dislike the argument saying that the community has already given enough to charity and that it somehow justifies spending some money on itself. There’s truth to that, but it disregards the fact that other causes would be more worthwhile.

Even if you give two million dollars to a good cause, then even an extra thousand dollars could be used to help someone else. Your two million dollars didn’t fix everything in the world that could use money.
 
 

Picture unrelated, but cute as all get out.
 
 
But one could say that there isn’t enough expendable money among every single brony combined to fix all of the problems in the world anyway. If that’s the case, then why not commit what money you’d like on problems you feel most attached to? Also, as humans in our lot, we do have a right to pursue our own personal interests.

Alternatively (what I think is the best argument), it’s not your money. You can say whatever you’d like, but people have the right to spend however they see fit. They are aware of that. The fact that they are aware of that makes it admirable that they use a lot of their own money on charitable causes, because they are well within their rights to use it however they see fit. But they choose to spend it on the community or charity and not themselves solely.


I propose a topic. Your Pony guilty pleasure. Sure, you can say R34 if you’re willing, but I’d like to see some specificity. Something you’re a bit ashamed of. Something you openly hate, but like more than you’ll let on normally.
 
Of course, mine is obvious at this point.
 

Jul 05, 2012 at 07:35PM EDT

DeadParrot222 wrote:

@Dac, Fifths, Mega
So… we’re going to treat this as if it’s actually serious?
I’m pretty sure this is just a silly joke.
No one in their right mind would ask for $600,000 in donations to found their own island.
The shear magnitude of ridiculousness makes me sure that this is not real in the slightest.

Why would they be accepting money if it’s just a joke?

Jul 05, 2012 at 07:42PM EDT
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Guilty pony pleasure?

I find the Molestia tumblr funny as shit. I think a lot of people feel the same, if they don’t take it seriously. You’d probably enjoy it a lot less if you don’t take it as a joke. It’s like a lot of things on the ‘net. But, since a lot of people would disagree about it, I tend to find it’s a bit looked down upon by some people to like the tumblr. I can understand that, as it is a bit lewd.

Brings me to the more severe guilty deal: I enjoy r34 occasionally, for the laugh factor. Like RandomMan pointed out recently, a lot of people like r34 and clop-fics because they’re funny, and you can take them in a humorous light easily. A lot of people tend not to understand that, I guess, and it leads to some conflicts for the people that look at r34 without clopping. Not saying clopping’s bad, because what you do or don’t fap to is your business and doesn’t influence who you are as a person, but it is looked down upon. By an extension, looking at r34 is looked down upon, period.

Jul 05, 2012 at 07:49PM EDT
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@Guilty pleasures
I honestly can’t say that I have a guilty pleasure, primarily because I don’t really take anything seriously enough to be offended by it.
There are certainly things that I don’t like very much, but nothing that I can’t handle seeing in passing.
I guess that means you could throw R34 in there, but I don’t actually feel ‘guilty’ about it, so it shouldn’t really count.

@Dac
Two options:
1. They be trolling, similar to those people who put up misleading eBay auctions for iPad boxes or pictures of some expensive product just to see who will pledge money without reading closely.

Or, more likely,

2. They are simply playing around with the essential structure of Kickstarter itself.
(Edit: Just looked again and it’s not actually Kickstarter, but it is an imitation site built on the exact same model. Everything else still stands.)
Those campaigns work by setting a goal amount that all donations are combined to reach by some deadline.
However, if the goal is not reached by the deadline, no one is charged any money.
It’s a built-in safety system on the site to allow people to pledge support to a project without the obligation to follow through if it can’t generate the funds it needs to actually happen.

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Jul 05, 2012 at 08:13PM EDT
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@Pony guilty pleasure

Sigh

On the rare occasion when I’m not beaming with confidence, I’ll go on a walk and make up a dialogue where Rainbow Dash gives me a pep talk. It’s the usual spiel about how being a performing artist can be tough, how you just gotta keep working at it and not doubt your inner awesome. She reassures me that I’m smart, talented, and pretty handsome for one of those human thingies.

Sometimes it gets weird though.

RD: Don’t worry, it’s hard getting discovered. I mean, look at me, I’m freaking amazing and the Wonderbolts haven’t gotten around to letting me in yet.
Me: Doesn’t that worry you?
RD: …what do you mean?
Me: Well, they’ve all met you, they’ve seen all your tricks. Hell, you even saved their lives once, if they wanted you in, they would have let you in by now.
RD: It’s…It’s just because I’m a little young is all.
Me: And you expect to become a better athlete as you get older? You’re in your prime Dashie, it’s all downhill from here.

Me: Oh Jesus Dash, listen that;s not what I meant.
RD: No, you’re right. If they wanted me they would have picked me already. What would they want with some lame flight school drop out?
Me: You are not lame Dash! There’s a reason that you’re the best pony.
RD: Some people think Fluttershy is best pony because she’s weak and pathetic.
Me: They’re idiots.

Ya, these can go on for awhile.

@Verbose

Was I being offensive? I voiced a negative opinion on something in concise language while avoiding any personal attacks on individuals. If such is a crime, then we should call every single politician and policy-maker ever a criminal, which might not be a terrible idea.

Regarding the project, I feel there is a difference between an individual spending money on what pleases him and a group pooling their resources together to spend on something. If some rich, singular brony decided to buy an island and name it Equestria, well more power to him. If we as a community are getting together to do something, I think the purpose is somehow to build a legacy for our community. Something that says “We are the bronies and we did this.”

I think that spending money on something notable like a good charity leaves a better legacy than simply having a tiny island with a name and some statues on it.

@DeadParrot below

I really wish there was one, a two-way portal. I’ve been trying to get the hell out of here for years!

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Jul 05, 2012 at 08:40PM EDT
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@Fifths
Is there some portal that would allow someone like me to take a turn living inside your head, a la ‘Being John Malkovich?’
It just seems like a genuinely interesting place to be sometimes.
Heck, you manage to depress your own imaginary motivational speaker!

@Fridge
Are we doing socks now?

Jul 05, 2012 at 09:00PM EDT
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You know, there’s been something that’s been interesting me of late. Rule 34, not the porn, but the term Rule 34.

When it first came about, Rule 34 was just a running joke about how on the internet you can find porn of pretty much anything. Rule 34 referred to porn that was weird, so weird that it passed the threshold of something that could even be considered sexually arousing and was just straight up hilarious. When someone said “Hey man, check out this weird ass napkin rule 34”, it wasn’t because he wanted to show his friend something he thought was hot or sexy, but something he thought was bizarre and weird, a spectacle.

Now when we talk about pony porn, we refer to it as pony 34. Thing is that pony porn isn’t that weird or bizarre to us. I mean ya, most of us wouldn’t consider it arousing, but it’s not some oddity found somewhere in the jungle of the internet. At least in the brony community, pony porn is considered a legitimate sub-genre of porn, even if we don’t like or approve of it, we know that people get off to it, we understand it as something to get off to. We don’t call S&M ‘bondage 34’ or gay porn ‘gay 34’, so why is it that we call pony porn ‘pony 34’?

The mutation of language is fascinating and it can tell you a lot about the culture that uses it if you look closely.

@Phoenix below

Huh, I hear Pony 34 get thrown about plenty.

But ya, the fact that other communities do it doesn’t change anything. The question remains, why is everyone shifting for using Rule 34 as a name for weird, bizarre porn for legitimate porn?

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Jul 05, 2012 at 09:29PM EDT
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@Guilty Pony Pleasure:

As a filthy human supremacist, my guilty pleasure is that deep down…I want to go to Equestria to To crush these ponies, see them driven before me, and to hear the lamentation of their royalty.

That is indeed what is best in life.

@Fifths:

I’ve never heard the term “Pony 34”. Always “Pony Rule 34”

I also hear things like “Mass Effect Rule 34” amongst other fandoms so I don’t think it’s that unique.

Jul 05, 2012 at 09:39PM EDT
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@deadparrot

Dont get me wrong, you could be right, but far crazier things have been done. It’s not really that insane, just kinda dumb. They could very well be serious.

@pheonix

I never took you for a thief. I am disappoint.
About your guilty pleasure, I feel the same way. I also enjoy being a “brony” that talks shit on the show, because you can’t call me a hater or claim I haven’t seen it. Its brilliant really.

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Jul 05, 2012 at 09:50PM EDT
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YOU CAN GET RID OF ME GUYS, IM BACK, AND BETTER THAN EVER. now, wheres randomman? and any of the other bronies i remember from when i was a knowyourmeme regular

Jul 05, 2012 at 10:00PM EDT
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@Fifths
Honestly, in some ways, I think throwing ‘34’ onto something like that is a way of deflecting criticism to a degree.
Obviously, it won’t work on a lot of people but saying ’I’m going to make pony porn’ and ’I’m going to make pony R34’ can have different connotations with the latter potentially allowing a person to laugh off detractors by saying that it’s a rule.
To a degree, it takes the responsibility away.

And people don’t put ‘34’ on your examples because R34 is an internet thing, so it is mostly only used with regard to internet culture.
Bondage and gay sex have existed for quite some time outside the internet, and are thus considered relatively ‘normal’ in comparison.

Your comment about language is very true.
Though the tides have been turning for the past few decades, our culture is still pretty taboo-heavy when it comes to sex (see the gay rights debate), so being able to say ‘R34’ lets you mention porn wthout actually having to say the word ‘porn.’
Handy little loophole.

@Phoenix

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Jul 05, 2012 at 10:01PM EDT
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HEY GUYS! Guess who they just confirmed for Fighting is Magic!

I’m kidding, I drew this, I’m badass.

She doesn’t look particularly happy in this does she? I figure she’s fairly pissed off and ready to wreck some fools, hence the baseball bat.

Jul 05, 2012 at 10:31PM EDT
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My new guilty pleasure is the pony fursuits. I am a furry, but I am very picky when it comes to fursuits. I only like suits that are very realistic and have a high level of detail. If a suit is more cartoon-like it has to be very well crafted or I will find it extremely repulsive. Before Bronycon my opinion on most of the MLP suits was that they were very shoddy and too cartoony for my tastes. However, at the con last weekend there were two suiters, one Derpy Hooves and one Doctor Whooves, who caught my eye. Of the half a dozen pony fursuits at the con, their suits were the highest quality. Additionally, they were very interactive and friendly which made them extremely popular at the con. I was a little skeptical of their quality at first, but there was one very interesting event that happened right in front of me that made me question my cynicism immediately.

It was about 1:30am last Sunday and I was filming during the Alex S.‘s section of the Bronypalooza rave. Suddenly, a bunch of people near me started chanting “DERPY DERPY DERPY DERPY ….”. I did not think much of it, because honestly there was a lot of chanting and singing that went on that entire convention. I then noticed that the people behind me were moving away, so I turned around to see what was going on. My body was not ready for what I was about to witness.
(What I’m writing about starts at about the 2:20 mark in my video)

I’m still sorting through all the feelings of that wonderfully crazy night. On the one hand Derpy partying hard was highly impressive (I cannot even begin to imagine how difficult it is to dance in a fursuit). On the other hand it was a really bizarre experience that left me very confused. All I know is that I have a lot of newfound respect for the suiters in our fandom and I wish them all the best in improving on their craft.

What opinions do you guys hold towards the fursuiters? I would imagine that many of you are not from furry backgrounds so it must seem very odd that they exist at all.


@Gigatoast
You are amazing at art. I am so jelly of your skills.

Jul 05, 2012 at 10:35PM EDT
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@Fifths

For starters:

>Pony 34

Last time I checked it was still called “Rule 34” or maybe “Pony Rule 34”, but “Pony 34” is new.

But yes, memes, my area. Well for starters, we must repeat ourselves what Rule 34 is.

There is porn of it, no exceptions.

You see, it is not so detailed. It only needs to exists, whether this is in reality or in our imagination. Anything is possible. There is no part in the rule saying it has to be weird or unique, it just has to be exactly what the rule reads, porn. Of course, the more extraordinary the item you found porn off, the better the reactions. Going to redtube and claiming it rule 34 won’t get you far. But anything is possible for it to be called Rule 34.

When saying “porn”, one does not think of a pile of paperclips stuck into each other and calling it a gangbang. Nope, most people simply describe porn as sexual intercourse. Going to the wikipedia page for pornography brings you:

“Pornography or porn is the explicit portrayal of sexual subject matter. Pornography may use a variety of media, including books, magazines, postcards, photos, sculpture, drawing, painting, animation, sound recording, film, video, and video games. The term applies to the depiction of the act rather than the act itself, and so does not include live exhibitions like sex shows and striptease.”

But we’re talking about Rule 34 here. As long as it implies porn, it falls under Rule 34.

  • Big Mac slamming his stallion man meat into Fluttershy -> Porn, so therefore Rule 34
  • Applejacks cart filled with apples with every apple having Yaranaika photoshopped over it -> Implies every apple having sexual intercourse, so Rule 34
  • Human Rainbow Dash naked -> Nudity, but no porn, so no Rule 34

It also depends a lot on the details given in the image.

But let’s take an example:

How bronies call it will vary. To me, that is questionable content. It implies a more sexual topic, but does not actually show it. Nor can it in any way be called porn. Others will call this Rule 34.

And that is where the problem lies. Because Rule 34 has such a wide area it covers, many call things Rule 34 too quickly. To the internet, Rule 34 has evolved. It no longer covers porn anymore, it also covers simple explicit content and to some even questionable content.

You see, Rule 34 is no longer a “rule of the internet”. It is no longer a running joke as you described it. Rule 34 simply has evolved into a slang phrase used online to cover any content, both questionable and explicit, that contains or implies pornography and acts surrounding pornography. It’s not a rule anymore, it’s a term.

So going back to bronies. The problem is not the rule, the problem is the brony. Rule 34 covers such a large area now, nearly everything that might arouse a person can be counted as Rule 34. But what every brony finds acceptable varies a lot. Therefore when talking about Rule 34, you have to consider sub-categories. One brony can laugh at explicit content, another one faps to it. While someone else wants to even banish the softcore implication images from the web.

You might want to cover some things here Fifths, I’m afraid I got a little bit too off topic.


@Nathan

I’m here, talking about topics involving pornography. As you can see, nothing’s changed.

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Jul 05, 2012 at 10:41PM EDT
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@Fifths

R34 discussion again, there is no escape from this topic! MUAHAHAHAHAHA. But this time we are talking about the definition of R34

The fact that R34 has now become synonymous with “porn” is something that I have been paying attention towards as well.

I don’t like referring to porn as “34” because I always felt like this was a misuse of the original meaning of the term. Where I come from, Rule 34 had always referred to a rule. Not porn, just a rule.

When you said “Look at this R34” you would literally be talking about line 34 in the Rules of the Internet, not some smutty image.

But over the decade it seems internet culture has done that language corruption thing again and twisted “Rule34” to take on a new definition of its own and that definition is porn itself (Randomman, who ninja’d me above explains this in more detail). It’s mainly newer and younger internet users who adopt this term and only older internet users still actually refer to porn as porn.

My theory why this happened: Whenever younger Bronies found Pony porn they would continuously make a huge fuss about it and bring it to everyone’s attention. Us older internet users then had to remind them why the pony porn exists by saying “Well that’s [because of] R34”.

This happened enough times that the younger netizens, unbeknownst of the reference to Rule 34 starting associating “R34” to porn from that point forward

Now we’ve reached a point where Rule34 is the actual porn and if the image gallery is any indication, the definition has stick solidly. I wonder if the Rule 34 article should make a note of this?


@Guilty pony pleasures

You don’t want to know


@Tristis

What opinions do you guys hold towards the fursuiters? I would imagine that many of you are not from furry backgrounds so it must seem very odd that they exist at all.

I’m not a Furry but I used to lurk some Furry boards so things such as fursuits are no shock to me and I understand (from the Furry point of view) why they exist. From my understanding, donning a fursuit is not that different from donning a mascot outfit and that’s how I see them: Mascots. No controversy here

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Jul 05, 2012 at 10:43PM EDT
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@RandomMan
Damn… ok, well… how did this start? was someone posting r34? is it that complicated to tell someone, rule 34 is against the rules?

Jul 05, 2012 at 10:47PM EDT
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Not Nathan wrote:

@RandomMan
Damn… ok, well… how did this start? was someone posting r34? is it that complicated to tell someone, rule 34 is against the rules?

No, we’re just discussing the aspect of the rule, what falls under it, and how people take it.

And no, Rule 34 isn’t against the rules. Hell, we even have an entry for Rule 34. What isn’t allowed is pornographic content. But Rule 34 also includes questionable content and implications. I have no issue with that.

Jul 05, 2012 at 10:50PM EDT
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@Tristis

Ech, that doesn’t look fun at all. Looks like a migrain headache, God I hate the club scene. Oh well, different strokes for different folks.

Anyway, regarding your question. Fursuits creep me out and furry stuff in general creeps me out. I don’t know, just something about the anthro elements that makes it extremely uncanny valley for me. Regardless, I can see what you mean about the quality of these suits. This one creeped me out considerably less than usual.

@RandomMan

Thank you for that well thought out and…suprisingly academic response.

You do realize the logical conclusion of your thesis however, don’t you? So we keep extending the scope of what rule 34 covers, it started referring to porn, now it’s grown to mean anything that might suggest or be arousing to someone. Anything can be arousing to someone, so if we define rule 34 as “anything which might be arousing to someone”, we find ourselves forced to come up with a new rule.

Rule whatever: If it exists, it is rule 34

@Dac below

I think so? I’ve only stumbled into one or two what I think were clubs, but I was so rip roaringly drunk that they might have just been bars with dance floors. In any case, I dislike places where the music is obnoxiously loud and everyone is crammed together in a pit sex-dancing with each other.

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Jul 05, 2012 at 10:53PM EDT
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@R34

By definition, RandomMan is right, about R34 covering much more than porn. But in my opinion, the term “porn” itself has grown to be a much more broad term than just what depicts sexual intercourse, so it makes sense that the definition of R34 expanding with it. In my book, common usage trumps dictionary.

So while R34 refers to a rule and not to porn, it has become a metonym for what the rule implies, in the same way that someone might refer to the United States government as “Washington.” A word’s definition can change by what it is associated with: R34 is associated with porn, so R34 can be used in the other word’s place.

Also, everyone is correcting Fifths when he says “Pony 34,” instead of pony Rule 34. We all know what he meant. No need for constant correction.

@Guilty pleasures

The worst it gets for me is fanfiction. No genre in particular, although I do stay clear and stay well clear of clop, but every now and then it dawns on my: “Dafuq, I’m reading a story about colorful ponies from a girl’s TV show.” Then I serioused the fuck up, and realized that some of the stories are actually really good and interesting, perhaps apart from the strange cast of characters. Hate the content, but don’t hate the quality.

“Fanfiction? What is… Who dabuq is this ‘Braeburn,’ anyway?”

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Jul 05, 2012 at 10:55PM EDT

RandomMan wrote:

No, we’re just discussing the aspect of the rule, what falls under it, and how people take it.

And no, Rule 34 isn’t against the rules. Hell, we even have an entry for Rule 34. What isn’t allowed is pornographic content. But Rule 34 also includes questionable content and implications. I have no issue with that.

I thought rule 34 fell under porn, which i always thought was not aloud on kym.

Jul 05, 2012 at 10:58PM EDT
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Not Nathan wrote:

I thought rule 34 fell under porn, which i always thought was not aloud on kym.

True
Plot is not the same as rule34. Plot is ok to show even sexy pics can be shown but porn, NO.

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Jul 05, 2012 at 11:00PM EDT
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Not Nathan wrote:

I thought rule 34 fell under porn, which i always thought was not aloud on kym.

Of course, porn is not allowed. But there’s still a certain area which we allow if properly warned. This does include some factors like in what way you give the warning and if it’s actually related to the topic. Not to forget the discretion of the moderator dealing with it.

But if you have any more questions, please post them on my wall. Let’s not derail the thread with a personal discussion.

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Jul 05, 2012 at 11:01PM EDT
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Fifths wrote:

@Tristis

Ech, that doesn’t look fun at all. Looks like a migrain headache, God I hate the club scene. Oh well, different strokes for different folks.

Anyway, regarding your question. Fursuits creep me out and furry stuff in general creeps me out. I don’t know, just something about the anthro elements that makes it extremely uncanny valley for me. Regardless, I can see what you mean about the quality of these suits. This one creeped me out considerably less than usual.

@RandomMan

Thank you for that well thought out and…suprisingly academic response.

You do realize the logical conclusion of your thesis however, don’t you? So we keep extending the scope of what rule 34 covers, it started referring to porn, now it’s grown to mean anything that might suggest or be arousing to someone. Anything can be arousing to someone, so if we define rule 34 as “anything which might be arousing to someone”, we find ourselves forced to come up with a new rule.

Rule whatever: If it exists, it is rule 34

@Dac below

I think so? I’ve only stumbled into one or two what I think were clubs, but I was so rip roaringly drunk that they might have just been bars with dance floors. In any case, I dislike places where the music is obnoxiously loud and everyone is crammed together in a pit sex-dancing with each other.

If you don’t mind me asking, have you ever been to a club?

Jul 05, 2012 at 11:01PM EDT
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So your, telling me, this is absolutely fine?

Thats the only i could find, the only artist i know that draws suggestive pony pictures, and also im not a fan of plot

>mfw

Jul 05, 2012 at 11:24PM EDT
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omg DeadParrot, that image of your face with Scootaloo…
you look… almost exactly like me O__o
like, i’m dead serious, i’m pretty sure we could be brothers.

i’ll post a picture of myself for comparison as soon as i can get my hands on a nice bowl of fruit salad >:D

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Jul 05, 2012 at 11:29PM EDT
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@Tristis:

I honestly don’t mind the fursuit stuff. I don’t approve or disapprove, same deal as most things. I can understand the fun in it, and I don’t begrudge people for doing it, but I’m not an avid supporter. Same deal with furries, period. Just people being people.

@r34:

The term ‘r34’ (or ‘rule 34’, whatever) has changed to mean porn of something (game, book, show, movie, etc.) that already exists, in my experience. It can still also refer to the rule itself. I don’t think we’re butchering the rule to any extent, we’re just referring to stuff that falls under it (porn of something that isn’t stand-alone) which isn’t already porn. I’m pretty sure everybody knows what the rule is, and they know that the porn itself isn’t the rule 34, r34 is just a faster way to refer to something that saying ‘porn of something that already existed’. It’s also easier to understand and more specific, generally.

As for people referring to suggestive material as r34, that’s part of any slang phrase. It will be used to refer to stuff very similar, of course, as a way to quickly get the point across. They aren’t saying that anything remotely arousing counts as porn, they’re saying that it is suggestive material based on something.

@Exudes:

I sometimes wonder how writers for Hollywood movies and big-budget shows can be so crappy while fan-fic writers are so goddamn awesome. Same deal with big developers and indie developers, to a certain extent.

@Fifths:

Clubs aren’t my thing, either. I listen to electro and all that shit, but alcohol, loud noises, lots of people, seizure lights, and terrible lighting don’t mix well, in my opinion.

Jul 05, 2012 at 11:39PM EDT
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How come my thunder is always being stolen by furries and porn?

Jul 05, 2012 at 11:52PM EDT
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@Gigatoast
Damn!
Nice work!
I’ll admit that you tricked me for a second.
You really nailed the style!

@Fursuits
They’ve never really appealed to me personally, but I can certainly admire the craftsmanship of the better ones.

I particularly like the way they tried to ‘fake’ the reversed knee joints.
I typically view these types of costumes the same way I view the characters at a theme park: there to make people smile.
I’ve heard how hot it gets in there, so they must really enjoy it if they are willing to put up with the discomfort.

@Clubs
Admittedly, I’ve never actually gone to one, but I’ll agree with Fifths here and say that that type of scene doesn’t appeal to me at all.
Then again, I’ve never really been one who shares many likes with people of my own age group.
Can’t stand clubs, rap, hip-hop, glow sticks, lasers, I don’t drink or smoke (tobacco or weed), even concerts for music that I like have the potential to annoy me with volume alone so I’ve only been to a couple.

If I’m completely honest, I’ll say this: I don’t get dancing. Not ‘I can’t dance’ (though that probably applies, too), I literally don’t think that dancing looks good. To me, even the ‘best’ dancers are just kinda flailing their limbs around in time to music. Intellectually, I know that they are skilled and put in a lot of training, but it just doesn’t do anything for me on an artistic or pleasurable level.

Basically, I’m the world’s biggest party-pooper.
Go ahead and like that stuff if you want to, but I’ll gladly stay on the sidelines.

@August

“Clone, robot, or long-lost twin? Taking all bets! I also offer video poker!”
(For the life of me, I can’t find the rest of that line as a video!)

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Jul 05, 2012 at 11:52PM EDT
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So, whats been happening around kym since i was gone? are there any of the regulars still hanging around?

Jul 06, 2012 at 12:03AM EDT
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Not Nathan wrote:

So, whats been happening around kym since i was gone? are there any of the regulars still hanging around?

Oh hay, yea all the regulars still here.

Jul 06, 2012 at 12:08AM EDT
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Yep, rule 34 is another one of those words that’s been modified from its original meaning, from a rule stating that there is porn of anything on the internet to a catch all definition of porn of any fandom in general.

The internet tends to do that. A lot. You can complain on how its a misuse, but in the end, the masses win out, even if your notions were correct. For example, “friend” is often used today as a verb (at least on the internet), even though there’s a perfectly good word “befriend” that has existed in the language for centuries. I don’t like it at all, but in the end, complaining won’t do anything.

@Solaire
Hollywood writers cater to an audience, meaning they write specifically to appeal said audience as broadly as possible. That’s why a lot of movies suck- because that’s what people want to see and are willing to pay to see. Take “directors” Jason Friedburg and Aaron Seltzer for instance, purveyors of such quality titles such as “Disaster Movie” and “Meet the Spartans” and “Vampires Suck.” They truly are a scourge upon the entire film industry, critics universally loathe their films, and yet, their movies rake in massive amounts of cash, because apparently audiences like this sort of stuff, allowing them to pump out a bunch of low budget, nonsensical pieces of crap out every year and make tens of millions of dollars at the box office, each and every time, guaranteed. Another example, the recent Transformers movies, directed by the infamous Michael Bay. They all are incredibly boring, with horrendous acting and paper thin plots, but what do people want to see? Giant robots pounding on each other for hours upon end and New York getting destroyed over and over again. And in that sense, Michael Bay and other big budget action film directors always deliver.

It’s all about the money. Where the money is, the Hollywood writers go. Why make intricate and original plotlines and hire good writers if you don’t have to? Made a blockbuster? Release sequels! Out of ideas? Adapt books into films! It never not works!

The Hollywood film industry is not based upon talent. It’s based upon the ability to attract audiences, and sadly, crap is what usually does. Once in a while you get a good film, but thanks to good ol’ Sturgeon’s Law, we can confidently say that 90% of everything, films included, is crud.

Fanfic writers do not have this monetary, and thus can write more freely and creatively. However, that doesn’t necessarily equate to quality (ahem Fifty Shades of Grey).

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Jul 06, 2012 at 12:18AM EDT
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Derpy SJW wrote:

Oh hay, yea all the regulars still here.

Well then.

On a side note, imma have to derail this thread, your picture brought it up, i think the PONY.MOV series is getting pretty stupid. im mean, heres my take.

APPLE.MOV: lol
DRESS.MOV: lmao, hes pretty good at this stuff
SHED.MOV: ehh… thats kinda weird… but non the less pretty funny
MAGIC.MOV: well thats a waste of time, they didn’t accomplish anything, this episode was lame
PARTY.MOV: ok, this is just stupid

Jul 06, 2012 at 12:22AM EDT
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