Hahano. (Besides, the controversy doesn’t lie in the voting method. It was about the result of the vote and how a loose majority could potentially overpower a true majority who may dislike or even hate the chosen title.)
As for redoing the original poll (as has been suggested), that probably can’t be done from scratch for a couple of reasons (as The Alternative Vote/Instant Runoff seems to be the preference:)
- Users would have to consider 60+ choices in terms of rank. I’m not asking anyone to rank 60+ choices, and I’m not going to reassign votes for the 40-50 choices that got support until a clear majority was found in the process of The Alternative Vote. This was meant to be a simple vote.
- Even if you only ranked 5 of those 60 choices (because it seems like you don’t even have to rank all of the choices), I’m absolutely positive that some tactical voting would occur that didn’t occur in the first vote.
- (i.e., many of the people who didn’t expect “Twilight Sparkle and the Deathly Hasbro” to win may decide to vote differently in terms of voting tactics…not something that’s good in a light-hearted poll and not something that’s good when The Alternative Vote is supposed to minimize voting based on how others might think.)
What I could do is include more of the choices from the original vote. So instead of picking from 6 to rank, there could be 10-15 suggestions to rank based off of the original vote.
Strategic voting could (and probably still will occur, which is contrary to the spirit of this poll and The Alternative Vote) but at least an entire, focused plan wouldn’t occur from scratch against any option.
If you disagree, then feel free to let me know, but I’m not taking a vote on the voting method. I hope you think that would be as silly as I do.
Feel free to argue that decision, but consider what a couple of users have already said:
“This is stupid.”
“…I think you should start to exercise some executive power to make this vote go along more smoothly Verbose. This is starting to get a bit silly.”
“I am the Replicant Engineered for Galactic Infiltration and Sabotage Mark V. I cannot be stopped. You have been warned.”
I don’t feel like this is my task to do nor do I think any decisions I make are law simply because I say it. I hope I’m not coming across like that, and I hope that I don’t seem like that sort of person/moderator. But (from experience…) surveys get really complicated when you add more people to the implementation process (which is why I encourage feedback at every step for just about any poll I do in order to keep people involved).
For something as simple as this, I want to avoid any more complications that we’ve already hit.
That’s the only reason I don’t want help in organizing this directly or getting any one specific user’s input. Anyone could be the one to put it together as long as they were being fair. I guess it just boils down to being the first to make a poll for it.
And I’d hope no one is in such a rush come next thread to be the first in order to orchestrate it. I’m confident in my own executive decision making, because I’ve done questionnaires and research methods for years in academia. If it were based in personal preferences in regards to voting method, I would have just stuck to the original method.
We also don’t want to get in the way of the REGIS, Mark V.
Such “Executive” decisions:
- I’m not disqualifying “Twilight Sparkle and the Deathly Hasbro.”
- Even though I’m not likely to rank it first anymore, I don’t think the concerns of other users against that title is enough to make me as one user throw it out entirely. Appearances are important, but they aren’t everything. And if the title can garner a true majority through this method, then I think the collective score of the title has shown that it makes the most people the happiest.
- A few users asked for time to debate the titles (I assume they’re only talking about “Twilight Sparkle and the Deathly Hasbro,”) and I think that’s fine. Please do.
- Please don’t get heated about this. I don’t want to downplay the titles importance too much, but it’s not important enough to insult other users.
- In order to include more choices without giving ourselves an opportunity to strategize voting, I’m going to put more choices in based upon initial popularity.
- If you want to “campaign” against a particular option, then it should be through the “debates” here and not through voting tactics against an option.
- I’m not sure how many, but 10-15 seems to be a good number. That’s completely arbitrary, so if you have a specific number you’d like to suggest, then I’d consider that.
- I haven’t read anywhere if one is preferable over another, but in this Alternative Vote, you don’t have to rank all of the choices. If you only want to give support to 3 of the 15 or so options, then rank those options 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, then leave the rest blank.
- In this scenario, if your 3 options are eliminated before a true majority is met, then your “ballot” will no longer be considered at all (i.e., this mimics you not voting at all)
- In this way, you aren’t forced to provide support to options you hate if the options you do support are no longer available.
- Since Fifths suggested it and would know such details, I’ll defer to him on whether or not it is mandatory that everyone must rank all of their options.
So to sum it all up, The Alternative Vote won, I’ve considered just all of the concerns and the final vote will be coming in the final days.