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KYM Pony General VI: Return of the Poni

Last posted Apr 19, 2013 at 12:20AM EDT. Added Jul 01, 2012 at 04:43PM EDT
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@Opspe: That just reminds me of some story I heard that it’s legal to marry an anime character in Japan or something.

But really, for the most part the whole story was kinda “been there, seen that” until it got to the point that he mentioned that he takes his plushie “fiance” out on the town. In public. To restaurants and shit. I just find that extremely creepy.

Mar 19, 2013 at 12:49AM EDT
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@Bruno

Oh hey, she has a horn. I just realized that. Just now. Seriously.

@opspe

Hey, I’d be completely serious if I had a girlfriend marefriend relationship with a lifeform of the opposite gender from a species that is all sentient and acts much like humans.
Except if she was real.
And not stuck in a cartoon.

cough

Let the guy have what he wants.
Sure it can bother most people, but love comes in many forms (like how that one Asian dude married an anime character [although I remember several guys doing the same {just saiyan |boom, a statement in a statement 3x|}]), so no point alienating what relationship he has there.

I mean, look at Rarity and Tom.

I’m pretty sure she didn’t take him for granite.

(Although he does sounds like he’s just joking around or just being a troll and having some fun, give or take if you imply some parts sound too corny.)

@Crimson

True, taking a plushie out with you into public spaces and kissing and hugging it is pretty damn creepy (if you’re an adult that is and not a child or toddler playing with his/her plush toy). Even I can’t deny that.

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Mar 19, 2013 at 12:55AM EDT
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opspe wrote:

Discuss.



This is kind of old, but it’s still funny. I honestly don’t see what the big deal is – plenty of images show that Twilight isn’t a one mare/one stallion/one human kind of pony. If plushies count as love interests, art should count as photographic evidence.

Mar 19, 2013 at 01:06AM EDT
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Man, it has been so long since I posted in this thread…


Anyways, yeah. What interests me about that PM (and yeah, it’s old-ish) isn’t that he’s in love with Twilight in his head. I’m a little used to that because of Pyro and Moon. And to quote Dumbledore:

Of course it is happening inside your head, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?

I mean, there are all sorts of considerations with such ‘dæmons’ or ‘tulpas’ being projections of their hosts’ own personalities, but that’s beside the point here. What interested me was that he isn’t doing the, you know, rational thing, and actually trying to avoid R34 of Twilight. He even says he looks for it on e631 and stuff. Why?

Perhaps his imagination isn’t all he wishes it was. But if he’s not the one creating the porn, doesn’t he know that the artists are going to impose their own artistic license on their work, even if that conflicts with his personality for her?

Maybe he doesn’t, and, well, as Crimson pointed out, if he, as a 27-year-old man carries his plush around in public with him, perhaps he never will.

Mar 19, 2013 at 01:28AM EDT
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RandomMan wrote:

Is your body ready though?

Hay! You R mi husbando! U need 2 stahp this nao! U R know playboy bunny, mister!

EDIT: J/K

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Mar 19, 2013 at 01:37AM EDT
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Was going to weigh in on the whole Luna controversy as well, but Fifths has basically said everything I would have. Background, character design, and all around personality is why I like her the most out of every character. I’m sure I’m not the only one that favors her for that reason.

@Vazquez:
Oh, well … I mean, he came on to me, and I think he intended to be my rebound guy … Then again, I can’t say for sure.

But I couldn’t turn him down! Who can say no to a man with such power, allure, and of course, adorably soft and long ears?

Mar 19, 2013 at 01:54AM EDT
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@Caro
It’s ok, he’s just slut. I am actually husbando #6 in his harem of men
he is cute though Isn’t he

@new pony discussion

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Mar 19, 2013 at 02:12AM EDT
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opspe wrote:

Discuss.

I would very much love to meet this guy IRL. He sounds like a very interesting person. No really, I’m quite fascinated at the extent at which a human will grow attachments to even just imaginary counterparts in their mind. I wanna learn more.

Someone needs to track that guy down and give him an interview with Jerry Springer…and bring the plushie. Boy, will that be a story.

I don’t know if it’s good or bad regarding how non-surprised I am. Maybe that’s because I have heard of similar incidents in Japan where guys also fell in love with fictional anime/manga characters and married a bed pillow with the characters image.

I have also seen the documentary on the men who fall in love with, and marry life-like mannequins (Real Dolls) and express very real and intimate relationships with their doll, provided that their imaginations supply the rest of the human that the doll is missing.

A man falling in love with a fictional character in MLP seems less out of the ordinary when you consider those other examples. Notice that I’m not saying that a guy fell in love with a purple pony, I’m saying he fell in love with a character and that’s where the difference lies. The same goes for all those other dudes that fell in love with cartoon figures.

As I always say: Love has absolutely no rules. And apparently any human personality, real or imaginary, is fair game. Culture or taboo concepts seems to be the only thing that’s really reeling in the reigns on what we fall in love with. Why our species is like this…I do not know. I want to see more study on how the human mind works this way

Is this guy crazy? …Hmmmm Maybe

Is it weird? …Absolutely.

Is he doing something unnatural? …Not as much as one would think

Is he doing something wrong? …If its not hurting anyone, let him do what he wants. At least he’s getting something out of his relationship so who am I to judge?

Should he stop other artists from doing what they want? …Probably not. But it’s the artists decision

Mar 19, 2013 at 02:31AM EDT
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BSOD wrote:

I have also seen the documentary on the men who fall in love with, and marry life-like mannequins (Real Dolls) and express very real and intimate relationships with their doll, provided that their imaginations supply the rest of the human that the doll is missing.

Honey, that was a reality TV show. Nice try povvo.

Mar 19, 2013 at 02:34AM EDT
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I’m pretty sure an actual documentary came first and a reality show followed (as they typically do)

I don’t watch reality TV so where else did that vague memory come from?

Do a search for dudes who marry dolls. They exist.

Mar 19, 2013 at 02:37AM EDT
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But serious now: Remember what Luna tried in the Halloween episode? She tried to fit in with the rest of the ponies, albeit she had no succes in this.
Would that not make bronies who are having trouble fitting in even though they want to be able to relate to Luna? Are you saying that having troubles socializing is not a character trait, and bronies who have that as well use an invalid reason to relate to Luna?

Like there is more to Rarity than just whining, there is more to Luna than just the Royal Canterlot Voice. Kinda ironic how you request us to look more into one while not able to do so in the other yourself. And given that bronies aren’t really an internet fandom well known for their high amount of IRL friends, it’s a very likely shared trait. This makes Luna’s high position very legit.

That comment was mostly meant as a joke. I understand Luna does have some depth. And a surprising amount considering her lack of screen time. Not to mention, if the writers of the comic stay true to Faust’s word on the next arc, Nightmare Moon will have been an outside force, relieving Luna from the blame for all that nasty “eternal night” business.

Still, doesn’t change the fact that she’s ludicrously over-rated. I mean, people say they enjoy seeing her in episodes more than any of the actual leading characters. Seriously?

Granted, I am a bit biased against her. You know how people mention being tired of Trixie getting so much popularity, even though she’s a bitch? I feel a bit of the same. Sure, she has a cool design and the best VA, but what about her personality? Even putting aside the Nightmare Moon incident, she did cancel a holiday just because ponies didn’t show her the reaction she wanted when she made a personal appearance. Rather than assuming she was doing something wrong and trying to better herself, she just blames everypony else for not revering her and cancels Nightmare Night in a hissy fit. In all honesty, I find her behavior to be a bit juvenile and narcissistic, and the fact that so many people find her relatable is somewhat disconcerting. Even as a less sociable individual, I don’t find her near as relatable as the leading roles in the cast. Seriously, what positive relatable traits does she have? The only thing I ever hear people saying they can relate to is how she’s awkward and misunderstood and blah blah blah, but Twilight and Fluttershy have similar issues and are much nicer.

@opspe

Seen plenty of stuff like that. Still, going to all that trouble to tell just one guy to stop clopping to Twi when you know there are a million others doing the same? Sounds to me like he’s just trolling. Still worth a laugh.

Mar 19, 2013 at 02:45AM EDT
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Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:

I’m pretty sure an actual documentary came first and a reality show followed (as they typically do)

I don’t watch reality TV so where else did that vague memory come from?

Do a search for dudes who marry dolls. They exist.

Well it was just that Muffins linked a clip of it to Bob and I. It was from the TLC show Strange Addictions. There were some other clips, one of a guy romantically in love with his car, and another of a guy who loved his plastic inflatable pool animals. And a woman who was addicted to stinging herself with yellowjackets.

But I digress. Some people have…unusual tastes and habits. I don’t walk my sexuality around in front of me (well, not outside of IRC at any rate), so that guy taking his plushie everywhere with him seems a bit like attention-seeking.

I wonder if he kisses it in public…

…because THAT would be nothing but attention-seeking.

Mar 19, 2013 at 02:47AM EDT
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I don’t walk my sexuality around in front of me (well, not outside of IRC at any rate), so that guy taking his plushie everywhere with him seems a bit like attention-seeking.

I think a better comparison would be walking around with your boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse in front of you (at least it is for him) but I suppose either way you are right. It could all be just for publicity. People have resorted to stranger things to stand out.

I wonder if he kisses it in public…

If he does, that would be freaking hilarious

And a woman who was addicted to stinging herself with yellowjackets.

Okay, now THAT’s fucked up.

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Mar 19, 2013 at 03:08AM EDT
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Derpy Vazquez wrote:

@Caro
It’s ok, he’s just slut. I am actually husbando #6 in his harem of men
he is cute though Isn’t he

@new pony discussion

Hmm, I suppose that makes me his only woman then?
He can’t be slutty with his women.
Not with me at least.

Mar 19, 2013 at 04:58AM EDT
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@ Jackel Lantern

One thing to keep in mind regarding Luna’s “hissy fit” is to look at it from her perspective. Everything seems to indicate that the Equestria of a thousand years ago was vastly different. Remember, it was traditional to speak using the Royal We--a grammatical indicator that the speaker was representing the entire country and had the authority to represent the entire country--and to yell and flaunt their power. In other words, the Princesses were much more aggressive back then.

Now, despite doing everything by the book and engaging in the appropriate formal greetings, the citizens have the nerve to cower in fear and show little to no respect for their princess. Luna then choose to exercise her absolute authority in dealing with this dishonoring.

Really, Celestia and the Equestrian Government are to blame for what happened in Luna Eclipsed . They had a minimum of three months (if you go by the " Luna Eclipsed takes place the Halloween after the pilot Theory") to get her caught up with the social and political norms and failed miserably.

Sleepless in Ponyville shows just how much she’s changed. Now that she’s had time to adapt to the modern world, she’s been able to adapt to what modern Equestria sees as proper princess predicate.

TL;DR: The reason Luna acted “juvenile and narcissistic” is because that’s how Equestria’s Princesses acted a thousand years ago and she thought it was the status quo. Now that she’s had time to adapt, she acts much more like how we expect (i.e. loving and protecting her little ponies).

@ Thread shipping

Is it bad that I’m now imagining a harem comedy about RandomMan and the forum, with special guest appearances by the Image Gallery commentators who never post here?

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Mar 19, 2013 at 05:18AM EDT
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Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate is coming out today and I won’t have any time to actually read the last few pages but I get the idea there was alot of puns and talk of hugging ponies sexually.

So here, I guess?

now how about a nice monster hunter related pony image -

You had one job, google image search. ONE JOB!

That’s better. So yeah. Bye for now, pony general.

Mar 19, 2013 at 05:29AM EDT
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opspe wrote:

Discuss.

Do you smell that?

It’s the smell of pics or fake. If something seems too good bad to be true, it most likely is. If he really takes a Twilight plush out for dates, certainly there should be some Facebook pictures of disgusted people who caught him in the act.

 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


The act of dating ya damn perverts.


xTSGx wrote:

Is it bad that I’m now imagining a harem comedy about RandomMan and the forum, with special guest appearances by the Image Gallery commentators who never post here?

This was always already the case. Care to join?

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Mar 19, 2013 at 09:25AM EDT
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Seeing as how she’s a woman, RandomMan, that’s much too straight for KYM. Don’t you know we’re 95% gay here? Twins and Crimson already skew your harem’s numbers.

Mar 19, 2013 at 12:03PM EDT
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I remember seeing the story on the news of the Japanese guy marrying a character from some Dating Sim for the Nintendo DS. He had the DS at the wedding with him…..I wonder if his parents showed up.

That being said I’m going to marry Rainbow Dash, not just a doll I will marry the very essence of Rainbow Dash and make other Rainbow Dash fans mad that aaaaaand most of the other ponies would probably get me killed by the fanboys if I tried marrying them and get Ashleigh Ball to file a restraining order against me which will cause me to go into an emotional rampage and the only one who can stop me is my waifu.

I am not crazy I am totally batshit insane.

Mar 19, 2013 at 12:34PM EDT
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@Iamslow
Damn you, Pinkie and your inappropriate wordplay!


@RandomMan’s photographic proof
I sort of doubt that this is the specific guy from that post, but Twilight has seen some… I don’t even know.





Is that considered a ‘date?’


I don’t know how these ‘internal romances’ work, but I think it would be hilarious if someone ended up in an abusive relationship with their own imagination.

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Mar 19, 2013 at 02:21PM EDT
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Yesterday I posted about Sunset Shimmer. It seens that there is no relation with to season 4.

@DeadParrot222: I’ve seen a lot of fucked up things. An that is just hit the top 10… It really sickens me that there are real adult people acting like babies.

Mar 19, 2013 at 03:44PM EDT
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Bruno the Rustler wrote:

Yesterday I posted about Sunset Shimmer. It seens that there is no relation with to season 4.

@DeadParrot222: I’ve seen a lot of fucked up things. An that is just hit the top 10… It really sickens me that there are real adult people acting like babies.

Remember this?

I’m not believing any more of Meghan’s lies.

Mar 19, 2013 at 03:55PM EDT
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I’ve had my doubts about Sunset Shimmer, to be honest. As I see it, the princesses already represent something – Celestia, the Sun, Luna, the Moon, Cadance… Love, I guess, and Twilight, well… Twilight, in between the Sun and the Moon. The thing is, Twilight also overlaps with Sunset, so I always felt like she didn’t really fit in the cycle, since her spot was already taken. If she’d been sunrise-related, maybe that would have worked. As it is, I couldn’t see her fitting in with the symbolism.

I guess I was right.

Mar 19, 2013 at 03:57PM EDT
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One thing to keep in mind regarding Luna’s “hissy fit” is to look at it from her perspective. Everything seems to indicate that the Equestria of a thousand years ago was vastly different. Remember, it was traditional to speak using the Royal We--a grammatical indicator that the speaker was representing the entire country and had the authority to represent the entire country--and to yell and flaunt their power. In other words, the Princesses were much more aggressive back then.
Now, despite doing everything by the book and engaging in the appropriate formal greetings, the citizens have the nerve to cower in fear and show little to no respect for their princess. Luna then choose to exercise her absolute authority in dealing with this dishonoring.

I did look at it from Luna’s perspective. When she first arrives, she straight up says she wants their love and admiration. She is LITERALLY a princess, and still vying for attention like that? I can’t find that relatable. Then she goes on to do the whole socially awkward thing people relate to so much. But when “the citizens have the nerve to cower in fear,” she blames them for her poor reception. When I don’t get the desired reaction in a social situation, I think about what changes I should make to help me interact with people better. When you place the blame for your issues on others rather than trying to work them out yourself, this can hamper your personal growth. As such, it’s not exactly a trait I hold on high regard. And while I can understand feeling frustrated when interactions consecutively show poor results, there’s no denying that canceling Nightmare Night was an over-reaction.

Really, Celestia and the Equestrian Government are to blame for what happened in Luna Eclipsed . They had a minimum of three months (if you go by the " Luna Eclipsed takes place the Halloween after the pilot Theory") to get her caught up with the social and political norms and failed miserably.

While Celestia and the Equestrian Government should have done what they could to help orient her with modern Equestrian customs, I still disagree that it’s their fault. Luna is responsible for herself first and foremost. Not Celestia. Not the government. Luna. This is just displacing the blame like I was talking about earlier. Individuals need to have personal accountability.

Sleepless in Ponyville shows just how much she’s changed. Now that she’s had time to adapt to the modern world, she’s been able to adapt to what modern Equestria sees as proper princess predicate.

It shows that she’s no longer a caricature of a personality that speaks in CANTERLOCK and royal we’s. It’s certainly a big step in making her more relatable, but I still believe she could use a bit more development.

But she was still insanely popular before this episode ever aired. Hell, she was insanely popular even during season one, when the only line she had was an apology to her sister. She had no real canon personality, didn’t have best VA, didn’t have the hilarious antics written by MA Larson, and people still fawned over her. Considering all she had then was good character design and a woe-is-me backstory, her popularity has always been a mystery to me.

@Sunset Shimmer

They should save that idea for later. There was honestly a lot of potential for her in the series, and I was looking forward to seeing her in the show. Oh well. I’m sure whatever they have in store will still be great.

I’m not believing any more of Meghan’s lies.

lel

Mar 19, 2013 at 04:28PM EDT
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I’m not sure how to enter the present topics, so I’m just going to ignore them! say that my thoughts are either covered by others or would take more time for me to type about than I’m willing to commit to it right now.

The attachment to Twilight (or any Mane 6 character) is pretty interesting. Like the guy who sent that comment to Kevinsano claimed, a relationship to the point of being “engaged” to a fictional character or bringing an icon of that character with you in your daily life is simply not normal. There’s no way to qualify that otherwise: it’s not the norm for a fandom.

However, now that I’ve spoken to and read more from bronies who have created “tulpas” or simply imagine being with a character whenever they can, I (“relate” isn’t the word…) understand, or at least feel for, those who become so attached to a character.

I do think that most of them lack meaningful relationships (romantic or otherwise,) but perhaps some simply fall for an “ideal” more than variety of real people out there. There might even be an “exotic” factor involved with it.


@Sunset Shimmer

As bad of a name as that is, I almost like it. Of course, it falls along the Twilight saga time of day-themed names of ponies connected to Celestia, so it makes sense that:

  1. She’d be connected to Celestia in terms of writing, and
  2. She’d be potentially part of the destiny involving royalty.

I wonder why she was a student of Celestia’s though. Was she supposed to become royalty like Twilight? If she’s anywhere near the age of Twilight, then that means she was likely a recent student of Celestia (meaning that Celestia had at least two personal students.)

Unless Princess Celestia had more than just a few students (which I doubt, because Twilight took such pride in being Celestia’s student, so I figure that it’s a relatively rare occurrence,) Twilight probably knows Sunset pretty well already.


I’ll post the results from the poll on the thread title later along with talking about what went wrong. Again, at the suggestion of a couple of users, I’m probably going to exercise a bit of executive control to make sure this moves along more smoothly, so not all concerns will be addressed like they were suggested.

Mar 19, 2013 at 04:30PM EDT
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@Sunset Shimmer
What if she turns out to be… a villain???

Think about it… a former student of the Princess turns to evil sorcery and… um… revives King Sombra in an effort to take over Equestria! Oh, the plot practically writes itself!

And somehow Trixie gets involved because magic.

Yeah… I realize that will never happen.

Still, I actually do like her name. It’s like someone took a thesaurus to Twilight’s name, and it actually turned out fairly well.

Mar 19, 2013 at 04:54PM EDT
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Weird or commiting bronies:

Sure, they may not be natural cases, and they’re more than certainly a rare group (not to forget that I’m not easily persuated). But let their interest alone not be your way of judging them.

I’m certain we all remember the infamous Lyra Plushie. When I was researching our entry for it I had to contact the buyer to find out if he already received it. Where I found the dude was e621, so it should come to no suprise that I could guess where he would use the plush for. But he was pretty cool about me asking it, and had no issue replying to me at all. He even made a KYM account just in case should I need to contact him again.


Deadparrot wrote:

I sort of doubt that this is the specific guy from that post, but Twilight has seen some… I don’t even know.
Is that considered a ‘date?’

That baby-syndrome (we’ll just go with that for simplicity sake) is not unique. There are multiple cases of them around the world. I even remember seeing a Dutch one is some tv show once which interviewed people like that.

Given that MLP is still a show for little kids, it’s not really a suprise that adults like that hold an interest towards them. His wall had different kiddy prints any person could find (not just MLP), his shirt is cheap store stuff, and the plush is one of those shitty official ones.

So no, I would not call that a ‘date’ and will even question if that person can be considered a brony.


Verbose wrote:

I’ll post the results from the poll on the thread title later along with talking about what went wrong. Again, at the suggestion of a couple of users, I’m probably going to exercise a bit of executive control to make sure this moves along more smoothly, so not all concerns will be addressed like they were suggested.

Database Moderator > Sr. Forum Moderator

I expect the results on my desk by the end of the day, neatly organised, so I can cast an opinion and claim superiority. Any objection will result in a ban.

Mar 19, 2013 at 04:55PM EDT
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opspe wrote:

Discuss.

I kinda want to kidnap his fiancé and hold her for ransom. Then I would send him her stuffing for each day his doesn’t pay the 50,000 dollars I demanded. He’d probably pay.

I think this is a fake though to be honest.

Mar 19, 2013 at 04:55PM EDT
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Bruno the Rustler wrote:

Yesterday I posted about Sunset Shimmer. It seens that there is no relation with to season 4.

@DeadParrot222: I’ve seen a lot of fucked up things. An that is just hit the top 10… It really sickens me that there are real adult people acting like babies.

That’s what I meant to post yesterday before I got distracted and forgot.
Meghan had another tweet on the subject.

It really sounds like she has no clue who this character is so I do sort of doubt that we will be seeing her.
You know, unless Hasbro decided to totally switch a character name or something crazy like that.

Alternate theory (probably crap, but fun to think about):


Uh-oh, Pinkie is escaping her reality again…
… and gaining magic powers (or I guess more magic powers).

Well, this was a nice reality while it lasted…
(SOURCE)

Mar 19, 2013 at 04:57PM EDT
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I’ll post the results from the poll on the thread title later along with talking about what went wrong.

Don’t forget, when the results from the poll about how to poll come in, we need to redo the poll in the newly selected polling format to ensure that the new polling format is the format we really agree on.

Mar 19, 2013 at 05:58PM EDT
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A foil character with similar personality, yet lacks some essential trait and misses on the magic of friendship.

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Mar 19, 2013 at 06:02PM EDT
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Jackal Lantern wrote:

I’ll post the results from the poll on the thread title later along with talking about what went wrong.

Don’t forget, when the results from the poll about how to poll come in, we need to redo the poll in the newly selected polling format to ensure that the new polling format is the format we really agree on.

Hahano. (Besides, the controversy doesn’t lie in the voting method. It was about the result of the vote and how a loose majority could potentially overpower a true majority who may dislike or even hate the chosen title.)
 
As for redoing the original poll (as has been suggested), that probably can’t be done from scratch for a couple of reasons (as The Alternative Vote/Instant Runoff seems to be the preference:)

  • Users would have to consider 60+ choices in terms of rank. I’m not asking anyone to rank 60+ choices, and I’m not going to reassign votes for the 40-50 choices that got support until a clear majority was found in the process of The Alternative Vote. This was meant to be a simple vote.
  • Even if you only ranked 5 of those 60 choices (because it seems like you don’t even have to rank all of the choices), I’m absolutely positive that some tactical voting would occur that didn’t occur in the first vote.
    • (i.e., many of the people who didn’t expect “Twilight Sparkle and the Deathly Hasbro” to win may decide to vote differently in terms of voting tactics…not something that’s good in a light-hearted poll and not something that’s good when The Alternative Vote is supposed to minimize voting based on how others might think.)

What I could do is include more of the choices from the original vote. So instead of picking from 6 to rank, there could be 10-15 suggestions to rank based off of the original vote.

Strategic voting could (and probably still will occur, which is contrary to the spirit of this poll and The Alternative Vote) but at least an entire, focused plan wouldn’t occur from scratch against any option.

If you disagree, then feel free to let me know, but I’m not taking a vote on the voting method. I hope you think that would be as silly as I do.


Feel free to argue that decision, but consider what a couple of users have already said:

“This is stupid.”
“…I think you should start to exercise some executive power to make this vote go along more smoothly Verbose. This is starting to get a bit silly.”
“I am the Replicant Engineered for Galactic Infiltration and Sabotage Mark V. I cannot be stopped. You have been warned.”

 
I don’t feel like this is my task to do nor do I think any decisions I make are law simply because I say it. I hope I’m not coming across like that, and I hope that I don’t seem like that sort of person/moderator. But (from experience…) surveys get really complicated when you add more people to the implementation process (which is why I encourage feedback at every step for just about any poll I do in order to keep people involved).

For something as simple as this, I want to avoid any more complications that we’ve already hit.

That’s the only reason I don’t want help in organizing this directly or getting any one specific user’s input. Anyone could be the one to put it together as long as they were being fair. I guess it just boils down to being the first to make a poll for it.

And I’d hope no one is in such a rush come next thread to be the first in order to orchestrate it. I’m confident in my own executive decision making, because I’ve done questionnaires and research methods for years in academia. If it were based in personal preferences in regards to voting method, I would have just stuck to the original method.
 
We also don’t want to get in the way of the REGIS, Mark V.

That would spell certain doom (except in a nuclear winter or immense smog.) 


Such “Executive” decisions:

  • I’m not disqualifying “Twilight Sparkle and the Deathly Hasbro.”
    • Even though I’m not likely to rank it first anymore, I don’t think the concerns of other users against that title is enough to make me as one user throw it out entirely. Appearances are important, but they aren’t everything. And if the title can garner a true majority through this method, then I think the collective score of the title has shown that it makes the most people the happiest.
  • A few users asked for time to debate the titles (I assume they’re only talking about “Twilight Sparkle and the Deathly Hasbro,”) and I think that’s fine. Please do.
    • Please don’t get heated about this. I don’t want to downplay the titles importance too much, but it’s not important enough to insult other users.
  • In order to include more choices without giving ourselves an opportunity to strategize voting, I’m going to put more choices in based upon initial popularity.
    • If you want to “campaign” against a particular option, then it should be through the “debates” here and not through voting tactics against an option.
    • I’m not sure how many, but 10-15 seems to be a good number. That’s completely arbitrary, so if you have a specific number you’d like to suggest, then I’d consider that.
  • I haven’t read anywhere if one is preferable over another, but in this Alternative Vote, you don’t have to rank all of the choices. If you only want to give support to 3 of the 15 or so options, then rank those options 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, then leave the rest blank.
    • In this scenario, if your 3 options are eliminated before a true majority is met, then your “ballot” will no longer be considered at all (i.e., this mimics you not voting at all)
    • In this way, you aren’t forced to provide support to options you hate if the options you do support are no longer available.
    • Since Fifths suggested it and would know such details, I’ll defer to him on whether or not it is mandatory that everyone must rank all of their options.

So to sum it all up, The Alternative Vote won, I’ve considered just all of the concerns and the final vote will be coming in the final days.

Mar 19, 2013 at 07:15PM EDT
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@Voting for the new voting method
Did you guys have any difficulty voting for the titles on the last 6 threads?

@Sunset Shimmer pony
I kinda agree with Serious Business here. If she is a former student of Celestia then Sunset’s name speaks for itself. Judging by her looks she seems fiery, strong-willed, and rebellious.

Mar 19, 2013 at 07:59PM EDT

Verbose said:

Wicked crazy amounts of text about polls.

Am I going to have to start using a sarcasm hashtag, or did you just feel like using my remark as an excuse to post more deer of the teal variety? Personally, I don’t see why we’re even going to the trouble of having another poll over something so inconsequential and pointless as a thread subtitle. It could be “Pony General VII: Home of the Basement-Dwelling Virgins” for all I care. I’ll still post in it as long as there are still conversations worth taking part in. #sincerity

Subtitles don’t matter. All that really matters is that we continue having discussions about fucking horses, talking about how everyone else’s favorite pony is inferior, and sharing pictures of men in diapers. #sarcasm

Mar 19, 2013 at 08:12PM EDT
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@Verbose

Damn, shit’s getting political up in here.

It’s only important to rank all options if there is an option you really don’t want getting in.

Are you familiar with one of those silly reality TV shows like Hell’s Kitchen or Survivor where at the end of each episode, another person gets voted off the team? The alternative vote is basically a means of simulating a whole bunch of those “The weakest link gets eliminated” votes at once. After each round, the votes are counted and the candidate with the least votes is dropped and the votes are recounted taking this into account. When you make a ranked vote, you’re basically saying “My first choice would be X, but if X has been eliminated, then I would like my vote to go to Y. If X and Y have been eliminated, then I would like my vote to go to Z.” So if choice X got eliminated in the first round, then your vote gets added to Y in the second, but your vote keeps going to X for as long as it hasn’t been eliminated.

If you only rank some of the options, it just means that your vote will stop being counted after all your ranked candidates have been eliminated. If there is one choice you really don’t want getting in however (like if you’re one of those staunchly against Deathly Hasbro) then you should rank all the options even if you’re ambivilent towards or dislike some of them as it will insure that Your vote will always be going against Deathly Hasbro

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Mar 19, 2013 at 08:14PM EDT
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Well, looks like the wait has been confirmed: http://family-room.ew.com/2013/03/19/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-returns-this-winter-exclusive/

Mar 19, 2013 at 08:15PM EDT
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Mane6 just released some information regarding the Skull Girls engine on their homepage, along with teasers of the possible roster:

The one on the left looks like a llama or alpaca. Considerind her jaunty stance, fluffiness, and the llamas use as a comedic device in the past, I can only assume this will be the character to fill Pinkie Pie’s role. The one on the right appears to be a deer, and really emanates Rarity’s grace. The silhouette in the center is the only one I’m unsure of. Possibly a calf? She appears to have a handkerchief around her neck like Wynona. Made me think she’s the token cowgirl like AJ, which gave me a laugh considering this character would literally be a cowgirl. Still, the pose is quite calm, and doesn’t really put me in the mindset of either AJ or Dash. Granted, she might have a personality more akin to Twilight or Fluttershy. Considering these are all new characters, she could represent a different personality archetype than Applejack while having similar interests.

As bummed as I was to see the original game shut down, just seeing the silhouettes for Faust’s new designs makes me hopeful for the future of Mane6. At first, I was just hoping we would be able to mod ponies in. Now, I’m genuinely excited to see the new characters. (but still hopeful ponies will be modded in :P)

Mar 19, 2013 at 08:37PM EDT
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Thank you, oh thine great Lauren Faust, for blessing us with such a gift.

Seriously, she’s pretty badass for helping out her fans like this.

Mar 19, 2013 at 08:48PM EDT
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@Mane6 teasers

They look pretty good. I wish they were a little less lanky but hey, I can’t complain when Lauren Faust herself is working on it.
Also, while I was searching for the above image, the person sitting next to me (who I’m pretty friendly with) just asked me who my favourite pony is. New brony friend acquired.

@Polls about name
Is it too late to suggest changing it to “Twilight Sparkle and the Derpy Hasbro.?”
Yes? Too late? Okay…

Mar 19, 2013 at 09:48PM EDT
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Nope nope nope nope.

Sweet and elite aired on December 3rd, 2011, Rarity’s going to go 2 years without an episode!

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Mar 19, 2013 at 10:00PM EDT
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@RandomMan

@Deadparrot222/creepy baby fetish

@Jackel Lantern
Most royalty throughout history acted very similar to Luna. From Henry chopping off his wives’ heads when they didn’t give him the right heir to the Louis’ bankrupting France and robbing the citizens blind. Being spoiled tends to make one act like a douche. It’s just a good thing when things didn’t go her way, the only thing she did was cancel the holiday.

While Luna does share the responsibility to get caught up, there’s no denying that Celestia and the government screwed things up.

The matter of popularity is one that can be asked of any of the minor characters. From “Sitting on a bench=human obsessed” Lyra all the way over to “May have said the word muffins in a group of ten other ponies=Muffin fetish” Derpy. Fanon plays a much larger role in character popularity then canon ever will.

Mysterious/tragic past+vitually no characterization+unique design=fanon orgy. Just think, there was Lonely!Luna, Biding time for revenge!Luna (Cereal Velocity even got into this one), Sexy!Luna, Prankster!Luna, Adorkable!Luna, and Trying to seek forgivenness!Luna. Almost everyone had a version of Luna they liked and that made her very popular.

It got even better when the episode aired. Instead of tearing apart the Luna fandom by picking one of the fanon’s to canonize, canon decided to buck fanon and do what it wants, creating canon!Luna. Because all of the fanons where dead, the fans were able to mourn the loss of their headcanons and embrace the real Princess of the Night.

@Sunset Shimmer
If canon doesn’t use her, then I sure as hell will. Of course, I think McCarthy is simply “misstating” the truth and Shimmer will actually be in season four. Didn’t that EW Twilicorn article go on and on about how the merch and show were going to be tightly intertwined? Strange that they forgot to mention a pony…

@Verbose
I’m sooo creating a SuperPAC. With it, I’ll be able to funnel millions of bits into the Forum Title Election from anonymous donors. Then, when everything implodes in on me, I’ll rant on national news about how the statisticians aren’t calculating the poll results properly.

Mar 19, 2013 at 10:24PM EDT
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@Ponies at winter coming.

>Got hopes up when realized winter is only a couple of months away
>Suddenly remembered Our Seasons in Australia are different to America


FFFFFFFFF-

…Le Sigh…

This would be easier if we could just grab us an Australian Version of Winter Wrap up to make things fun in the half-way point.

Like… Replacing all the references to melting ice we never have outside of mountains we don’t have many of, with suddenly letting loose with three or more months of built up cloud cover at once. With all our Drought then Flood thing going on.

…Then again… Nobody really cares. Why butcher a good song to make an entertaining parody that is at least 20% more accurate for Australians?

Le shrug.

Mar 19, 2013 at 10:31PM EDT
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Spidervance wrote:

Nope nope nope nope.

Sweet and elite aired on December 3rd, 2011, Rarity’s going to go 2 years without an episode!

Could be worse, her next episode could always premiere in 2014.

Mar 19, 2013 at 10:47PM EDT
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@Jackal: It’s time to play whose that pokemon!
I really can’t wait to see the rest of the designs that Lauren will make. Also, it was a good decision on Mane6’s part to switch their game to the Skull Girls engine.

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Mar 19, 2013 at 11:02PM EDT
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Kewln00bs name isn't special wrote:

Could be worse, her next episode could always premiere in 2014.

At this rate it probably will. :P

Mar 19, 2013 at 11:04PM EDT
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