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HEY THAT'S WHAT I SAID!!!
….but you said it better

@Springer bronies:
They are not even trying, that was pathetic! We know that certain media will still show bronies as freaks. But we are better then this! Media made worse of Ponies and we are still here.
2:00: Hahahhahaha. Very funny… (Sarcasm)
I don't care about this anymore. Some people will hate bronies? So what? They are not going to but me in an asylum because I'm a man who like colorful horse.

@Springer bronies

It wasn't really that bad, cosplaying rainbow dash as a unicorn aside… The woman was giving out legitimate reasons for liking the show, how she likes the show's message. I did think everything was going down to shit when the guy came in, funnily enough it didn't go so bad…

Erin Burnett of CNN doesn't give a real opinion until the end when she says that one line that kinda just implies it's a good thing to do what you want (I guess). She doesn't condemn or really glorify them, as she doesn't go into ridiculous detail about one aspect of the fandom.

She's also not the Springer or Stern show, so there's that.

@The Jerry Springer episode

Judging from that short clip alone, it does appear as though Jerry is actually trying to negate all of those allegations that he received about him purely hosting his show to stir controversy

Not only does Jerry avoid making the episode sound controversial in any way, I noticed that he also puts on this "Who me? What are you talking about?" attitude in regards to "embarrassing his subjects for his audiences entertainment". It's obvious he is aware of how Bronies reacted to Jerry's initial invitation. He must not like receiving that kind of criticism and is using his guest appearance to apply damage control.

Were his guests actors? Hard to tell, but I had my suspicion. They seemed pretty well informed about the fandom and the reasons people watch the show. The answer really is a simple matter of "people like the show" so I am glad that is the message they made without going into irrelevant detail. Though on the other hand it looked a though a clueless backstage hand made their outfits for them.

Maybe thats exactly what happened. They are Bronies but someone chose their outfits for them. Or maybe they are actors who did their research? (Either way, Jerry gets a good answer and doesn't get a good reason to freak out)

Overall, I have to say that it could have gone much worse and like others here:

@Springer:

I feel they effectively conveyed the idea of the show in a way I would have. They were calm about it, didn't really go "BESTEST SHOW EVAAAAR" or some kind of stereotypical "Let me tell you about Homestuck"-type testimony of the show. Just the "Bronies are adults who like MLP" and the extrapolation from that (although I consider the term "Brony" mostly male-specific, sorry Twins) like I would tell a friend if they didn't know about it. I was also proud that Springer didn't just tear them apart and treated them respectfully. Most mainstream media has a problem with that, not quite as bad as news article comments (have you seen some of the comments on pony posts on Kotaku, even if they are Vidya game posts too?) I have to keep myself from scrolling down when I see "Pony" or "MLP" or "Brony" in an article because jimmies will be rustled and love and tolerate mode will not activate. At least I keep myself from actually posting.

But the costumes weren't necessary and kind of made us seem crazier than we really are. That was honestly what gave away the fakeitude for me. Would it be that difficult to get a couple of 20 buck shirts, or at most a Wonderbolts hoodie (I own one, and I consider myself not that extreme of a brony)?

Plus she messed up my personal best pony by essentially saying Dash is an alicorn. JESUS CHRIST SHE'S A PEGASUS YOU F--KING POSER

I suppose it's good that's what set me off, and not anything else.

Thanks. I really didn't expect so many people to respond.

I asked people to respond before looking at comments, because I was quite disappointed when reading from EqD's commenters and YouTube commenters ("Really, Verbose? Disappointment from YouTubers?" Yeah, yeah, your mother drives a pickle wagon and wears combat boots to bed…)
 
But I didn't see much wrong with this at all. Considering no one owns the word "brony," and anyone can mock a fandom without any problem, they could have gone all out. You've seen (or know the reputation of) Springer. They could have had a "furry" fight a "brony" over the fact that the brony preferred the clop of a pony, and the furry preferred the anthro art over it.

Heck, they could have just had two actual bronies discuss Derpy or how Purple Tinker/Yamino got so much grief on the matter. In that clip, they didn't even bring up R34 at all. The guy didn't bother me, and the woman didn't bother me either. Their ratings would not have gone up over that.

Now, the favorable presentation was probably in direct response to the community's outcry and prevalent pleas for bronies to not go on the show (which may mean that perhaps no one who could actually go on the show decided not to go on the show, and that's really surprising. I'd figure that at least one brony thought that they somehow could convince the audience that bronies are OK/not pedophiles/not gay by definition/not overgrown manchildren/take off your fedora it does not go with your black shirt.)

It also means that no troll decided to go on the show and insult us either. It would have been very easy to do.

Perhaps there is something ulterior to it: Get bronies thinking that Jerry "understands" the bronies' plot (what typo?), get a couple to come on the show for another segment, and then boom, pregnant fandom scarred.

>my expression whereupon viewing the culture

 
Mainly because I've had so much (grape juice) tonight, and can't be bothered to feel anything.

Of course the one night I'm not hanging around the house, something genuinely interesting pops up.
Anyway, like everyone else here, I'll say that I was pleasantly surprised by Springer's segment.
I'm leaning toward those particular people being actors (Mainly because of the horned RD. Really, waht brony messes that up?) but they certainly seemed to know their stuff and were actually rather good representation of our fandom.
Their cosplay, despite inaccuracies, wasn't all that bad and they did a decent job of explaining it as well.
I'll admit I've never really watched much Springer in the past, but this one segment has made me reconsider (to a degree) his very negative public reputation.
Except for the one off-color joke (which was taken well by the 'bronies'), he was completely respectful and even a bit curious.
Even the audience seemed receptive with their frequent applause and cheering for things like 'friendship' and wanting to spread the show around.
As Solaire pointed out, there have been more professional, more even-handed reports done on us, but I dare say this one lands high on my favorites list simply for the massive dichotomy between what I expected and what I got.
If he had wanted to, he could have easily ripped the fandom a new one and gotten huge ratings for doing so, but he didn't.
Weirdly enough, he acted more like a reporter than a lot of actual reporters.
Never thought I'd say this but "Good work, Jerry Springer."

Sorry, I wasn't expecting to actually want to give you a cookie, Mr. Springer.
I'll get more next time.

Saw the jerry springer thing expecting the worst, everything went better than expected.

But i do agree with verbose, i think the fair representation was due directly to the public outcry of the subject.

I've seen this image a few times today, so I figured I'd post it here too.

Ah, internet fandoms… you work in mysterious ways.

Truth be told, I've never watched Dr. Who, although everyone I come in contact with says that I should. I probably will eventually. Actually, I can guarantee that I will eventually.

You really don't have to watch every single episode to get Dr.Who.

The only facts you need to know are:

1. The Doctor is a time travelling,parallel universe jumping alien,

2. He always travels with a female companion of some kind.

3. The Daleks are like…really really bad.

And that's pretty much it. Every episode is a self contained adventure (mostly) so you can always enjoy any random episode.

So, it's October 3rd today which means…
Equestria L.A. is exactly one month away!
Woohoo!
I'm still nervous as hell, but I'm actually getting far more excited than I expected as the date grows closer.
This was made for Canterlot Gardens (by the Friendship is Witchcraft people), but it works here, too:

@RandomMan
Aw, come on.
See, you need to post these things before the start of the month.
It's already the third!
How do you expect-
I'm just going to shut up now.

@Commodore
Yeah, I got into Who through ponies, too.
Definitely an awesome show that I would highly recommend to anyone who likes sci-fi, British humor, or really just good TV in general.
I've even gotten my mom to stop and watch a few episodes and she rarely likes anything that I do.

As phoenix said, for the most part, each episode is its own little adventure, however, most seasons do have some kind of connecting thread through them.
If you have access to Netflix, I'd recommend just cranking through them all in order for the full effect.
Have fun!

Lived overseas because my parents were missionaries. Knew a lot of Brits through the mission. One of the families that we were really good friends with got me into Who during the 10th doctor era. Came back, had BBC America, just in time for Tennant to leave. I wasn't very happy. I only recently got back into Who.

So in short,I already enjoyed Dr. Who. Ponies had nothing to do with it.

Also, I got a friend to watch Ticket Master (best starting point IMO). I have no intention of making him a brony, but what do you guys think is a good second episode?

@ burning_phoneix
Ya, my friends have told me that too. I have seen bits and pieces of several episodes actually, and it does look like a show I'd watch. Seriously, everyone is surprised that I don't. Maybe I'll start once I'm finished watching the entire series of Star Trek: Voyager… that's what I'm working on right now.

@ 2spooky4Twili
I'd say to just let him watch the episodes in order. I decided that I truly enjoyed the show at the exact moment Applejack crashed into the ground in Applebuck Season (I laughed out loud… that's still one of my favourite episodes). The only problem with watching the episodes out of order is that the show has changed a lot between the beginning of season 1 to the end of season 2. It's a gradual change though, so it's best to just go along with it. That's my opinion, anyway.

Holy shit.

I was reading this article on 5 Reasons Humanity Desperately Wants Monsters to Be Real (disclaimer: it's a Cracked article) and read it in his context. Go on, read it. DON'T READ PAST THIS UNTIL YOU'RE DONE WITH THE ARTICLE.

Alright, done? Now think about this in the context of brony-haters vs. bronies. It makes so much more sense now, doesn't it? It didn't hit me until I read that last point, and specifically the words "internet comments". I've talked about Kotaku brony-hating commenters before (not that they aren't everywhere else, they're just really bad there), but now I have more understanding of why people have such intense hate of us.

On a side note, I do find it funny that people think guys liking a show for girls is wrong, when they don't really care if a girl should enjoy something sterotypically male like sports, or comics, etc… It's probably been brought up, I just wanted to say that.

@Random

Ya, fuck that shit. I mean, normally I'd bring up the point that clopping is defined as just jerking it to ponies and you could easily get by by jerking it to other things besides ponies, but see…I don't think I can get off to stuff that isn't super vibrantly colored anymore. Humans only come in a few boring shades of brown, and really, where's the fun in that when compared to this?

Once you go Rainbow, you don't go back. So what am I supposed to do to satisfy my colors fetish, look up some carebears porn? Ya, no. Hmm, I suppose I could try to make due with a box of crayons…

@Deadparrot

inb4 Deadparrot gets arrested for inappropriate contact with someone in Scootaloo cosplay.

That article actually makes ALOT of sense in a way, human nature is hard to grasp tough, saying that we are like to hate is only part of of it. Good read tough, i tottaly recommend it, makes you think for a bit about life.

Check it.

@2spooky4Twili
Good article on what is essentially some basic evolutionary psychology.
Humans are somewhat bred for in-group/out-group hostility from back when trusting only your tribe was the difference between life and death.
Unfortunately, our society have evolved faster than we have.
Automatic intense suspicion of any kind of 'outsider' or 'deviant' in a world where they are all around you at all times will only serve to cause problems (look at internet culture, religious conflicts, politics).
We should be trying to live together in some kind of peaceful fashion, but instead, many people fall back on the easy method of labeling, generalizing, and hating.
That's why I do love to see groups, like a significant population of bronies, who are pushing for greater inter-group understanding and tolerance.
That attitude is the key to the future in my opinion.

@Fifths

And as for Scootaloo cosplayers, there was just that one time, but she was pretty cool about it.

…
Huh?
What do you mean 'That's a guy'?
…
Aw, damn it!

What are you gonna do about it?

I'm the third panel:

(done up by mamandil.)

lolover took time out to make answer a quick question although the Sketchy Twilight ask tumblr is technically out for lunch medical school reasons.

Anyway, I posted that, because grad school just got real and I sometimes forget how adorable Lauren Faust's pony style is and the diffrent tumblr personalities within the FiM style. It's always a nice pick-me-up.

Again, one of the things that brought me into the fandom were the Ask tumblrs. I don't think I came across this one until later on, but it is still one of my favorites.

If you somehow managed to come in here with the first minute or so, I pasted the wrong embed (I'm doing a couple threads). Please watch the correct video.

@Commodore: Dude watch it. It's a fantastic show. Not my favorite (then again, neither is MLP, come at me bro), but certainly high up there.

@Verbs: That's a cool pic. Now I'm looking at the tumblr and I'm sad to see it go on hiatus, he/she is a great artist.

Gonna leave this here,

Hello and welcome to the 2012 Princess debates. I'm Fifths and I'll be the moderator for this event. Please join me in welcoming our first guess, Princess Celestia

Celestia: Hi Fifths, happy to be here.

and now for our second guest, the incumbant, Princess Luna

Luna: Greetings.

So let's get right into it! Princess Luna, your sister has ruled for 1000 years, what criticisms do you have of her policies and what will you change if elected?

Luna: Well, the biggest criticism I have of my sister is her overabundence of suntime spending. Since last December, the days have been getting longer and longer! Experts indicate that at our current rate, we'll soon be seeing 27 hours of sunlight a day, and studies indicate that this could have negative effects on crop growth and night club revenues! We need to think about the effects this will have on the pegasus pony class, which both eats food and visits night clubs.
If elected, I will bring a little sanity to the solar/lunar cycle and restore the 12 hour night.

Princess Celestia, your response?

Princess Celestia: Preposterous! I don't know where you get your facts from sister, but I had no intention of instituting a 27 hour day. The increases in solar time have been an absolute neccesity to fight the cold and help those poor ponies in the pegasus pony class! I was in a small town called Ponyville just a few months ago where I met a young pegasus named Scootaloo who said "Princess, my hooves are cold, can you please help?" I told her I would, and I have kept my promise sister! I gave her a little more sunlight to warm herself with.

Princess Luna: You could have got her some boots…

Princess Celestia: Once the climate is finally balanced, I will advocate for a moderate 12 hour day.

Ok, now let's get back to-

Princess Celestia: Hold on Fifths. I have to wonder how it is that everypony is concerned about my solar increases and not looking at Luna's more extreme policies.

Well perhaps we can let her explain them for us-

Princess Celestia: Luna has been quoted saying that if elected, she will "Make the night last forever", I don't know how that's going to help that little pegasus pony's cold hooves.

THANK YOU PRINCESS CELESTIA! Princess Luna, your response?

Princess Luna: Oh please, that quote has been taken massively out of context!

Princess Celestia: You were screaming it at a crowd of terrified ponies as you cast a spell that made the night last forever.

Princess Luna: Look, let's just stick to the issues here. My sister believes the only way to reverse our climate problems is to keep adding more and more sunlight, but this trend will only spell disaster for the pegasus pony class! VOTE FOR PRINCESS LUNA AND THE 12 HOUR NIGHT!

Princess Celestia: My sister wants to be an evil dictator and she has absolutely no experience in it. VOTE FOR PRINCESS CELESTIA AND THE 12 HOUR DAY!

Well, that's all folks. Join us for the next of the Princess debates in this heated campaign!

But who wants to stop subsidizing the Pony Broadcasting Service?

@Fifths

Someone animate and voice this script then make a YouTube series out of it.

@Fifths:

Solaire: I highly advocate the 27 hour days of sunlight! Where I come from, it's twilight 24/7/365! Nothing bad happened because of it *cough*exceptforthezombies*cough*

Thank you, Fifths, for that riveting coverage of the 2012 Canterlot debates. I'm here outside the palace to see how the average pony-on-the-street views this event. There seems to be a flurry of activity with many ponies creating signs and chants in an attempt to have their voices heard. Let's see if I can get an interview with some of them.

Excuse me, sir! Would you mind explaining what brought you out here today?

"I most certainly can! I'm here today to protest Equestria's blatantly sexist system of government! When was the last time we had a male ruler? I'll tell you when. NEVER! No, no, no! There has never even been a male contender for the throne in the entire history of this land going back over a millennium! Well, I and the other stallions of Equestria refuse to be treated like second-class citizens any longer! We will not be silent! Our voices will be heard! Canterlot will-"

Yeah, yeah, that's great. Good luck with all… that. Let's see if we can talk to anypony else here.

"But… what about the plight of the male-"

You, Ma'am! Yes, you! Which Princess are you supporting?

"The Great and Powerful Trixie is not a 'Ma'am' and you will not address her as such!"

Ow! Don't hit me you- AH! Hey, give back my microphone! You can't-

"As for the Princesses, our so-called leader, Princess Celestia is clearly attempting to dodge the big story that ponies all over Equestria are talking about! You may remember that last year Trixie herself, along with more than a dozen other ponies, witnessed Celestia's protege, this Twilight Sparkle, as she 'vanquished' a helpless baby forest creature that had done nothing more than wander into town. Yet, despite this heinous act of cruelty, Sparkle continues to reside in Ponyville tax-free, claiming some special mission from Celestia herself! Trixie demands an official renouncement and revocation of this mooching criminal's exalted status immediately followed by a public apology by that contemptible unicorn wherein she must admit that she is not Equestria's most powerful magic wielder! And Trixie should be allowed to throw fruit at her! That brings Trixie to her second point! Once the imposter is deposed, The Great and Powerful Trixie will once again be-"

Okay, I managed to grab the mic while her eyes were closed. I don't think she's even noticed yet. Nope, she's still talking to nopony in particular. Well, this has been interesting for sure. Let's throw it back to the studio! I-I'm going to go get this welt on my head checked out. That mare hits really hard…

Politics? In MY ponies?

…Welcome back, and good evening. For those of you just joining us, I'm here with Professor Whooves, who carries a doctorate in political science from the University of Canterlot.

Good evening, Mister Affluence.

Again, for those of you just joining us, Doctor Whooves and I were just, uh, getting into tonight's debate. So, Mister Whooves, a lot of our early samples are showing Luna's so far turning out to be a clear winner. What are your opinions?

Oh, there's no doubt that Luna knocked it out of the park. She did exactly what her campaign has been doing these last few months – portray Celestia as an out-of-touch, one thousand-year old ruler, which, and I'm not taking sides here, she is, and rightly so.

We're seeing a number of experts suggest that Luna attempt to court the wealthy elite which have thus far thrown in their support for Celestia. Do you think she did that tonight?

Absolutely not.

Do you think that could come to cost her in November?

Personally, I wouldn't hold it against her.

And why's that?

I think she's holding off until the vice-princess debate next week. We saw Luna dance around a good deal of questions concerning the economy and such. I think next week's debate between Rarity and Twilight Sparkle will see a great deal of those questions answered. Remember, a lot of the reasoning behind Luna's choice in Rarity was in her economic experience. Given that Rarity is the Element of Generosity, we'll be seeing a lot more of her stance on welfare, which might turn off some of the upper-class voters.

But do you think the upper class would be any more likely to go for Twilight Sparkle? A lot of people are still questioning Celestia's choice.

Well, I don't think there's a lot to question. Twilight Sparkle was chosen to appeal to the very voters put off by the concept of a one-thousand-and-four year ruler. It's a sort of counter to Luna's almost grassroots campaigning, if you will, and I don't think that'll be any more appealing to wealthy voters.

Doctor Whooves, if the election were tomorrow, barring personal preferences, who do you chose to win?

Luna. Hooves down.

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(Please excuse the tree in front, my mother drives too quickly)

@opspe

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Hi :)

>BNM
>been on the site for longer than you
>is mod

>been on the site for longer than you
>is mod

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@opspe

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I know this is a bit of a Rewind, considering how fact this Thread Changes topic, but I feel like saying something…

That Black and white Pegasus is Cute… I Wonder who came up with her…

It's Laura the Zony

http://asklaurastuff.tumblr.com/

Yes, an offspring of a pony and a Zebra and yes, they do exist in real life.

Funny DeadParrot used that pic of Laura and Stalkerloo, because the mods of both blogs are now in a relationship.

Also, head up, tomorrow will be a dark day for Tumblr… but just tomorrow.

@opspe's newfag-ness:

He is clearly ponyfag.

Just like the rest of us.

… What were we talking about, again?

… What were we talking about, again?

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Do you even lift noob phaggot? U R 1 cheeky kunt m8 I swear I am goin to wreck U.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in guerrilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

Politics and ponies huh? I wonder what political parties would the mane 6 be?

Twilight – Democrat
Rainbow Dash – Democrat
Fluttershy – Democrat
Pinkie Pie – Republican
Rarity – Republican
Applejack – Republican

>Pinkie Pie=Republican

Never in a million years. Socially and fiscally, Pinkie doesn't seem to be conservative.

As for everyone else, then I would generally agree. And to keep it simple, I'll just choose between the two main parties in the US.

For people who aren't savvy to US politics, democrats tend to be more liberal. Republicans tend to be more conservative. Since there are only two main political parties, they often promote their candidates as being more liberal or conservative than what they may actually be, but yeah.

• Twilight might be fiscally conservative, but I'd guess she's socially liberal. With that in mind, if she had to choose between parties, I'd guess Democrat.
• Dash seems like she'd be rather stubborn. I don't think she cares about much outside of being loyal, so I couldn't see that as being an attribute of a liberal or a conservative. I'd guess staunch Republican, because I'd think that she might perceive Democrats from trying to keep her from doing what she wants. You can spin that to say the opposite (i.e. Republicans preventing others from doing what they want,) but I see Dash as being more material, and Democrats are more likely to believe in spreading any wealth there is around. And Dash might not be the most generous of people.
• Speaking of generous, Rarity does strike me as being part of the "1%" even though her parents might lead you to believe otherwise. Socially, I'd guess she'd be conservative. She wouldn't like anything "uncouth," but I don't think we'll ever see a serious social issues being described as being "uncouth." Financially, she likes to spend for others and herself, so it's hard to say. Stereotypically, she fits Republican, but I really would lean towards stuffy Democrat.
• Applejack would be a Republican. A friendly Republican, but her values are in-line with the hard-working, traditional values that Republicans tend to promote.
• Fluttershy doesn't matter I think that a Republican wouldn't be sympathetic to the needs of a person who put themselves in a bad position. Fluttershy, even at her most assertive, would probably still feel terrible about not being kind to something or someone in need, regardless of how responsible that person or thing was for their own plight. Screams Democrat.

Pinkie Pie is now host of Larry King Live.
 
This is not a discussion topic. This is now a thing. Deal with it.

I agree with Verbose's revisions (though not your passive-aggressive attitude toward Fluttershy, ya jerk!). AJ, Dash, and Rarity definitely fit the "typical" profiles of red states, while Twilight, Pinkie, and yes, even Best Pony fall a little more in line with blue. At the end of the day, though, they all seem to be pretty comfortable with autocracy. :/

We're still discussing politics and ponies? I've made some grumblings lately about writing a fan fic, but I just remembered the other day that I already have, and that it's totally relevant to Fluttershy-as-a-liberal-extremist-eco-terrorist-ponified-Ted-Kaczynski.

I really want to rewrite this now, since I think I came up with some good ideas but it's a pile of garbage that I made up as I went along.

Cloudsdale politicians celebrate by lowering taxes for the rich! Yay, government!