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Last posted Dec 11, 2012 at 08:06AM EST. Added Aug 22, 2012 at 04:56PM EDT
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Worth it for Romney I mean (his heroic image). And only if he could pull it off.

I’m just saying that if he attempted to take out Assad, then his military spending might put him in a better position to do so.

But lets not forget what I said earlier: He could have been planning on spending more on the military just for defensive purposes (Read: Boasting in front of China, saying “Hey look China! I got tons of warships too!”). If that’s the case I’ll remain glad that he won’t be in office right now so taxpayer money can go towards things that actually need it

It would be funny if Obama took this opportunity to have Assad removed from power himself so he can claim the glory…and do it without spending trillions more dollars on the military

Nov 07, 2012 at 01:17AM EST
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With the internet down, videos like this cannot raise awarness in the world:

Not that they were raising awareness in the first palce…..

inb4 mods spoiler this video.

Nov 29, 2012 at 03:21PM EST
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X wrote:

With the internet down, videos like this cannot raise awarness in the world:

Not that they were raising awareness in the first palce…..

inb4 mods spoiler this video.

If you think this video is graphic enough to be spoilered you should probably spoiler it yourself or at least give fair warning.

Nov 29, 2012 at 05:14PM EST
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Part of the problem can be seen in the comment sections of the article J posted and the video X posted.

There are apparently still people who believe that the FSA is doing all of this and that Assad is some innocent little angel. If I showed those people the video that X posted they would just say that the rebels did it. They simply have no idea, nor do they seem to want to understand

If not that, then there are the morons who see the video and just rant about Islam for some stupid reason as if Islam had anything to do with it. These people are hindering the worlds motive to seek resolution

It’s no wonder X seems so jaded

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Nov 29, 2012 at 06:39PM EST
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Blue Screen (of Death) wrote:

Part of the problem can be seen in the comment sections of the article J posted and the video X posted.

There are apparently still people who believe that the FSA is doing all of this and that Assad is some innocent little angel. If I showed those people the video that X posted they would just say that the rebels did it. They simply have no idea, nor do they seem to want to understand

If not that, then there are the morons who see the video and just rant about Islam for some stupid reason as if Islam had anything to do with it. These people are hindering the worlds motive to seek resolution

It’s no wonder X seems so jaded

The biggest culprit in this I believe is the Guardian newspaper comment section.

The Guardian is a well known liberal newspaper and so is its readership.

But apparently being liberal does not make you any less susceptible to believing silly conspiracy theories or being a cynical asshole.

For example, some comments on a Syria news item on the Guardian:

Wow. Al-Qaeda with tanks in Syria.

Please remind me again how Al-Qaeda in Iraq & Afghanistan = bad and Al-Qaeda in Syria = good?

Or else, those trained by them made a lot of progress. Even anti-aircrafts weapons have already been delivered to the “good” Islamic terrorists. Recall that the opposition members were told by the Westies to put their act together and elect a leader – they did – a Muslim Brotherhood member who is now their “ambassador” to the UK. . . . . . so that they could get the weapons they had been begging for.
So new targets besides the attacks on Kurdish areas by the opposition have killed inhabitants of the
Druze and Christian districts – who had avoided until now, NOT to get involved in any fighting between the regime and the bearded and non-bearded opposition freedom-loving fighters.

Lovely Christmas and New Year celebrations for the corporate-industrial-military conglomerates and their
families. Wifeys will get still another fur coat – one or two for each profit-rich year. Can one ask for more?!
Puppet “moderate” opposition political facade regime picked (twice due to too many radical elements in the first SNC), the leaders of which all seem to have ties to western corporations, as did the Libyan opposition. (big similarities with Iraq and Afghan there) Increase in western support and military rhetoric and action on the ground suggesting heavy arms and funding increase. Either that or all these recent victories and subsequent weapons cache “captures” for the opposition are completely coincidental?

You’re right. I should be planting car bombs in built up civilian areas in the name of “freedom”. Maybe blowing up a bus or train or two.

You know, to prove how much I believe in making life better for “my people”.

Nov 29, 2012 at 11:37PM EST
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You’d think liberals would be more for liberation?

If people are thinking the FSA has any relation at all to Al-Qaeda and that their actions are equally of the kind Al-Qaeda loves to do, then that may explain the allegations against the FSA

Of course X has explained quite clearly that nobody in Syria wants anything to do with Al-Qaeda but it seems some people are quick to assume that explosions in middle eastern civilian districts always involve them

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Nov 30, 2012 at 12:00AM EST
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Not only that, but because the FSA is supported by the west it leads to “FSA IS A PUPPET OF THE IMPERIALIST WESTERN COUNTRIES! VIVE LA RUSSIA! DOWN WITH THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX!”

Nov 30, 2012 at 12:55AM EST
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Mister J wrote:

Very related

It’s still going to, people.

We are back.

More videos for no one to give a shit about, yay.

Dec 02, 2012 at 08:43AM EST
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Syria apologizes for cutting internet. Iran fires it’s cyber police chief.

What’s next? Saudi Arabia uncensoring porn?

Dec 03, 2012 at 03:25AM EST
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So, you know that NATO intervention that Syria’s desperately needed for well over a year now?

Apparently it might actually be happening.

It’s not much. It’s just a few defenses along the Turkish border, but hopefully this might lead to a more direct involvement. I mean, NATO intervened with the Libyan conflict and it was pretty damn effective, so I don’t see why the same tactics couldn’t be applied to Syria. Assad has artillery and helicopters, he’s using them to massacre civilians, and NATO has the means to take them out. It’s a very similar situation to what we faced with Gaddafi, though perhaps I’m missing some technicality of international relations that’s preventing us from going in this time.

Dec 04, 2012 at 06:38AM EST
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In Libya, all the security council members agreed to establish a “No Fly Zone” over Libya to prevent Gaddaffi from using his Airforce to bomb civilian targets.

However, NATO greatly overstepped its original intention which the resolution said was “to protect civilians from harm” so they started bombing SAM Sites, Artillerly positions, tanks, soldiers…any target was fair game. It was obvious that the original mandate of “protecting civilians” had taken a turn to “support rebels against Gaddaffi with overwhelming Close Air Support”

This pissed off China and Russia, who never agreed to that. So they’re blocking any resolutions against Syria in the United Nations Security Council and since Russia and China both have Veto powers, it doesn’t matter how many vote against them.

In addition to that, Libya was a pariah state but Syria is a very close ally to Russia and China and regularly purchases large amounts of military hardware from them. To lose Syria to the Western powers means the entire middle east sans Iran is in a Western sphere of influence.


On a side note, there’s this great website called Syria Deeply that attempt to collect as much news and information to Syria including interactive maps and timelines.

The information is rather basic but it’s an excellent tool for getting uninformed people up to speed on the situation:

http://alpha.syriadeeply.org/

Dec 04, 2012 at 09:31AM EST
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BREAKING NEWS

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It is with great sorrow I tell you this news.
It’s over.
Assad has finished mixing up the chemical agents, they have been loaded into bombs.
Artillery and Ballistic Missiles are also capable of delivering Sarin and Nerve gas for Assad to use against is own people.
The airplanes are now awaiting the final order, if it’s given “there’s little the outside world can do to stop it.” according to U.S. officials.

Something could have been done, but the world chose to watch from the sidelines.
It’s too late now.
The entirety of Syira is holding their breath.
Literally.
Thank you for following this thread.

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Dec 06, 2012 at 01:10AM EST
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Screw you Assad. I hope you rot in the most horrific parts of hell. The UN won’t stand by any longer if you use these weapons, and the rebels sure as hell aren’t going to stop fighting you.

Dec 06, 2012 at 01:44AM EST
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Uuuuuuurgh, some of the comments in that article made me want TEAR SOME JUGULARS OUT

When Assad burns in hell, may all those functionally retarded conspiracy theorists red-flagging the whole event burn in hell with him.

I didn’t need to read those comments on top of my already bad day. I need to drink.

Dec 06, 2012 at 02:44AM EST
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The air planes could be easily stopped with a no fly zone. The problem lies in artillery delivery systems like the SCUD and especially Frog-7. You can’t stop these without putting in advanced missile defence systems like the Patriot and those are out of the question.

You could go “Scud Hunting” but those types of missions were completely ineffective during the Gulf War.

The only hope is that the report mentions it being loaded on plane bound munitions rather than ballistic missile warheads.

EDIT: I just remembered something about Sarin Gas. Since it’s heavier than air, it will seep down, so higher buildings are a must. Rooms with windows are out of the question: If Assad uses the same strategy as Saddam, they’ll shell the area first to break the windows (I doubt there are any unshattered windows remaining in Aleppo).

Sarin will dissolve in water, food and clothes and contaminant it. Sarin quickly disperses when a vapour but lasts longer as a liquid.

AND NO FIRE! NO Aluminium! Sarin is combustible and eats through tin, cadmium, aluminium which results in hydrogen gas forming.

The only good news is that Sarin gas degrades quickly. IN air, it might disperse in as little as ten minutes. It degrades a bit slower in water but also under 1 hour (though to be safe, leave it for quite a few hours before drinking anything)

Any clothing contaminated with Sarin vapour can transmit it. CUT the clothing off (don’t pull it over your head) and toss it in a plastic bag and then toss THAT into a plastic bag. Soap and Water can actually be a good stop gap decontaminate, wipe the body down with it and don’t use the same sponge/cloth twice.

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Dec 06, 2012 at 03:35AM EST
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You think the Syrians are gonna let the Libyans have all this DIY fun by themselves?

Dec 11, 2012 at 08:06AM EST
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