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KYM Pony General VII: Live Free or Twi Hard

Last posted Apr 19, 2014 at 12:21PM EDT. Added Apr 19, 2013 at 12:22AM EDT
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Alex Mercer wrote:

@RD Being Obsessed With Some Background Character
TOPLEL

@chowz: Twilight comes first and Dash second? I approve! Well, of that part, at least.

@Vinyl thread: Since we won’t be getting TSG back, I have a few things to say about this.
First, I saw some people on Derpibooru claim she’s not white but actually a very pale yellow. Initially I was like “EVERYTHING IS A LIE!” but then I decided this was bullshit. She’s obviously white if you look at her and even if you’re going to be anal about her color values, the more accurate nitpick for something like this would be “white with a slight yellow tint” or something like that.
This was in one of those posts saying she’s an albino but this also bothers me. Apparently real-life albinos don’t have red eyes and purple eyes aren’t a thing IRL so real albinos have BLUE eyes. What I’m getting at is that Rarity is the REAL albino Pony. As if she wasn’t enough of a cliche to begin with…
Lastly, anyone notice that there are loads of white Unicorns in MLP?

Sep 24, 2013 at 12:17PM EDT
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CrashGordon94 Wrote:

This was in one of those posts saying she’s an albino but this also bothers me. Apparently real-life albinos don’t have red eyes and purple eyes aren’t a thing IRL so real albinos have BLUE eyes.

Wikipedia Wrote:

there are cases in which the eyes of an albinistic person appear red, pink or purple, depending on the amount of pigment present, due to the red of retina being visible through the iris.

Ahem? Care to explain this then?


CrashGordon94 Wrote:

First, I saw some people on Derpibooru claim she’s not white but actually a very pale yellow. Initially I was like “EVERYTHING IS A LIE!” but then I decided this was bullshit. She’s obviously white if you look at her and even if you’re going to be anal about her color values, the more accurate nitpick for something like this would be “white with a slight yellow tint” or something like that.

It’s actually called “Cream”, or if we want to be technical, “Light Cream”. A kind of “off white” that leans towards yellow.

So yes, you can call it white.

Of course, there’s also blue whites as well for off whites, such as in Rarity’s color palette. So if we’re going to look at them design wise its preferable to call Vinyl’s coat “Cream”, so we don’t confuse it with all the other off whites.

A small shade of color one way or the other to make one off white over another can change the whole feel.

ObligaPone

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Sep 24, 2013 at 12:50PM EDT
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@Albino eyes: I apologize, it appears I was misinformed.

@Vinyl’s coat: Thank you! I don’t know why I forgot about cream!
Yeah, “Light Cream” would sound right. All I would say is that people tend to (incorrectly, it would seem) draw her pure white, which isn’t too surprising when you consider the eye color controversy and all. Also, white is a much better approximation for cream than “very light yellow” so I would stand by that part of my original statement.
Anyway, it seems I started this page! No theme thread from me, since those seem to get hate a lot currently.

@DB:

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Sep 24, 2013 at 01:11PM EDT
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You know, I’ve always kinda liked Prince Blueblood. Sure, he’s a bit of a cliche, but I found his lines and actions pretty funny.

Flattering Picture:

Hm, he appears to have two ears on one side of his head… that’s unhealthy. Or maybe he’s just been taking lessons from the Layer Duck?

Layer Duck scoffs at your reality.

Sep 24, 2013 at 03:43PM EDT
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Commodore 64 wrote:

You know, I’ve always kinda liked Prince Blueblood. Sure, he’s a bit of a cliche, but I found his lines and actions pretty funny.

Flattering Picture:

Hm, he appears to have two ears on one side of his head… that’s unhealthy. Or maybe he’s just been taking lessons from the Layer Duck?

Layer Duck scoffs at your reality.

On the subject of animation errors…

It’s time for the cyclops pony.

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Sep 24, 2013 at 04:07PM EDT
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A rather weird question… What would the appropriate reaction for a pony be to find out they are Princess Luna and Celestia’s Father/Mother, when they didn’t even know they had any kids?

The reason I’m keeping this gender ambiguous despite the fact this would only happen to colts is because of Shenanigans.

Sep 24, 2013 at 05:07PM EDT
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@Unicorn colours

Heh, that reminds me of the fact that Celestia isn’t pure white, either. Technically, she’s a very light shade of pink.

As you can see, the outline especially is a dead giveaway. So that notorious Pinklestia toy was kinda half-right, in a way.

If you look at the other “white” unicorns, you’ll find that most of them have a bit of a hue to them, as well. Rarity is actually light gray, Fleur has a touch of lavender in her coat. Fancy Pants seems to be pure white, but that’s offset with the outline colour. Shining Armor has a pure white coat so the whites of his eyes are actually a very light shade of blueish gray to compensate. Same deal with Blueblood. Kinda hard to say anything definitive in regards to Vinyl, though, since she’s usually seen through a colour filter of some kind.

I’ve always found pure white to be a bit of an unwieldy colour, personally. It tends to glaringly stick out and it looks inorganic and artificial. I like off-white much better, it’s much more natural and blends in quite well. In fact, we Finns call it luonnonvalkoinen which, when translated word-for-word, means “nature’s white”.

As for why there’s so many white unicorns around, well, that would be because that’s kinda the go-to colour for unicorns. Has been since Medieval days in fact, at least here in the west. Before that, the Greeks basically used the word to describe the rhinoceros. (Fun fact: the word “unicorn” is a portmanteau of the Latin words unus, meaning one, and cornu, meaning horn. So, quite literally, “one-horn”)

So how’d the unicorn go from rhino to horned horse? Well, that’s not entirely clear, but as far as I’ve understood it, old pagan myths from the ancient Germanic tribes described a horse- or goat-like beast with one horn, a creature representing lust. It is no coincidence the story goes that only a virgin can tame it, you know.

Later on, when Christianity became the dominant faith in these parts, they had a habit of co-opting old pagan myths and traditions and rewriting them to better suit their ideals. Holidays like Christmas and Halloween are a product of this, by the way. Anyhow, the legend of the unicorn was one of these rewritten tales, being repurposed as a sort of allegory for the death and rebirth of Christ. Rather amusingly ironic, considering the original material.

The end result of this is a creature that paradoxically represents both the serene heavens and the untameable wilderness. A sort of allegory for the human condition, if you will, of higher mind in conflict with base instincts. Perhaps that’s why people continued to be fascinated with unicorns long after dragons and griffins were relegated to children’s stories and old wives’ tales. Or because the Danes kept selling narwhal tusks as unicorn horns for centuries, take your pick.

Well, that certainly went off on a tangent, eh? Let’s just say that unicorns are something of a passion of mine. Have been since I was a wee lad. Hell, I even keep a blessing of unicorns in any army I lead, if I simply can have them. Their healing abilities combined with their combat prowess really helps on long campaigns, you know.

Since we’re on the subject and I’m on a roll here, why don’t I make a recommendation for those of you who find yourselves with little to do in between seasons? Or hell, anyone who wants to see some classic, quality animation? Well, there’s this here little gem called The Last Unicorn.

The more artistically inclined among you have probably already heard of this one, and maybe a few of you have had the fortune to see it sometime in your childhoods. Still, even if you do know it well, I’d recommend seeing it again. Can’t have too much of this stuff, you can’t. It’s one of the modern classics, after all.

(Another fun fact: The studio involved in animating it went on to become the animation department of Studio Ghibli, whose work I’m sure you’re all familiar with)

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Sep 24, 2013 at 05:09PM EDT
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Crashgordon94 said:

Since we won’t be getting TSG back, I have a few things to say about this.

>implying I can get off the ride, even for schoolwork

Brownmane the Knight said:

As you can see, the outline especially is a dead giveaway. So that notorious Pinklestia toy was kinda half-right, in a way.

Cool, a conversation about pony color and optical illusions and stuff.

Later on, when Christianity became the dominant faith in these parts, they had a habit of co-opting old pagan myths and traditions and rewriting them to better suit their ideals.

Wut.



I’m 99.995% sure this seems legit, since the original poster claims you have to be a “Microsoft Partner” or employee in order to jump through some hoops in order to download it. Not only does Hasbro have no affiliation with Microsoft, but Microsoft would probably get sued into the ground by them for using another company’s IP for internal promotion.

It’s so legit, I haven’t even seen a thread on /mlp/. The world’s home for unsubstantiated rumors.

Sep 24, 2013 at 06:05PM EDT
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@Albino Eyes: Albino eyes aren’t the same as red eyes. If you look at the Albino Eyes option in a game like, say, Guitar Hero, they aren’t really red. They’re more of a light pinkish. Either way, albino eyes are cool.


@Vinyl’s Coat: It’s just a technical color the animators use. I’m sure no brony artist has the exact same color of Vinyl’s coat, so they usually make her a flat white. Example:


@Animation Errors: You were saying?

Sep 24, 2013 at 06:08PM EDT
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Kewln00bs name isn't special wrote:

Someone made a more realistic edit of that Raridash picture.

Still fucking adorable.

Sep 24, 2013 at 07:59PM EDT
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Kewln00bs name isn't special wrote:

Someone made a more realistic edit of that Raridash picture.

Still fucking adorable.

THIS IS EVEN BETTER!!!

Sep 24, 2013 at 11:35PM EDT
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Disturbed Blewupthe wrote:

If you did a survey of male contortionists about what got them started in the business, this would probably be what, like, 90% would answer.

Sep 25, 2013 at 12:05AM EDT
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Platus wrote:

If you did a survey of male contortionists about what got them started in the business, this would probably be what, like, 90% would answer.

Sep 25, 2013 at 12:19AM EDT
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Kewln00bs name isn't special wrote:

Someone made a more realistic edit of that Raridash picture.

Still fucking adorable.

And the next logical step:

Easily the most realistic of the three!
(With Dash on Dash coming in a very close second.)


And right on into Creepy Town.


@Color Discussion
I don’t know if I wish I could participate or whether I’m happy that I’m color-blind and can’t even tell the difference between those ridiculously subtle changes in hue.
I mean, I’m aware that most of them are some form of ‘off-white’ simply because their true white eyes wouldn’t show up otherwise, but beyond that, they’re all ‘whitish’ to me.


@Platus
What’s with the ‘male’ part?

The girls can dream, too!

Sep 25, 2013 at 01:58AM EDT
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Fifths wrote:

THIS IS EVEN BETTER!!!

Someone’s gonna non-sexually jack-off tonight.

Sep 25, 2013 at 04:03AM EDT
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DeadParrot222 Wrote

@Color Discussion
I don’t know if I wish I could participate or whether I’m happy that I’m color-blind and can’t even tell the difference between those ridiculously subtle changes in hue.
I mean, I’m aware that most of them are some form of ‘off-white’ simply because their true white eyes wouldn’t show up otherwise, but beyond that, they’re all ‘whitish’ to me.

With all these color blind people I keep running into, its a wonder that there isn’t more Noir style stuff… All black and white and vaguely dark in tone.

… Close enough…

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Sep 25, 2013 at 05:32AM EDT
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@DeadParrot:

The girls can dream, too!

Ah, yes, Watermelon Twilightsmane…

Sep 25, 2013 at 09:26AM EDT
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Jimmy Lethal wrote:

@DeadParrot:

The girls can dream, too!

Ah, yes, Watermelon Twilightsmane…

Wrong you Pleb, that’s Blossomforth, do you even Pony?!

Was going to post a picture of Blossomforth from Derpibooru but I had to sift through all the…..flexible porn. But I realized that since most of it was porn I didn’t feel like trying to sift through it all. Really don’t understand why the suggestive tag doesn’t show up on my page…..I’m going to have to do some configuring on my account after work today.

Sep 25, 2013 at 11:13AM EDT
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ExudesAffluence wrote:

I couldn’t resist. The circle is complete:

“Octdoober”

“OctDOOber”

Oh my god! That’s perfect.

Sep 25, 2013 at 02:57PM EDT
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ExudesAffluence wrote:

I couldn’t resist. The circle is complete:

>TFW we will never get a real Daring Do book

Sep 25, 2013 at 03:57PM EDT
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Platus wrote:

“Octdoober”

“OctDOOber”

Oh my god! That’s perfect.

Oh wow, I totally missed that!

Sep 25, 2013 at 04:01PM EDT
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I have a feeling the Rainbow Dash Fangirling pictures will become a short fad. Each pony will get their own edit with a pony they idolize (although, none of them will be as great as the Raridash one as they won’t have the HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG inducing snuggle animation.) then the fad will disappear until Pony General 10 when we mention it in a short conversation about short lived fads.

Sep 25, 2013 at 05:28PM EDT
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Kewln00bs name isn't special wrote:

I have a feeling the Rainbow Dash Fangirling pictures will become a short fad. Each pony will get their own edit with a pony they idolize (although, none of them will be as great as the Raridash one as they won’t have the HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG inducing snuggle animation.) then the fad will disappear until Pony General 10 when we mention it in a short conversation about short lived fads.

Hey, you guys remember Twiscream?

Sep 25, 2013 at 05:35PM EDT
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Jimmy Lethal wrote:

Hey, you guys remember Twiscream?

Let me just Google that first…

That had a name?

Sep 25, 2013 at 05:43PM EDT
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@Lunar:

That had a name?

Who cares? It’s as irrelevant as the Cleveland Browns.
City of Cleveland: slits wrists

Sep 25, 2013 at 05:52PM EDT
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On on that note… I suddenly have a question…


…Since when did Shining Armour become a Seer?

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Sep 25, 2013 at 06:14PM EDT
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Lunar Protege wrote:

On on that note… I suddenly have a question…


…Since when did Shining Armour become a Seer?

Since he mastered the art of crayonography.

Sep 25, 2013 at 06:32PM EDT
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Did you hear that? That’s a great sound. That’s the sound of my headcanon getting confirmed (even if it is only semi-canon because it’s the comic).

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Sep 25, 2013 at 07:11PM EDT
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xTSGx wrote:


Did you hear that? That’s a great sound. That’s the sound of my headcanon getting confirmed (even if it is only semi-canon because it’s the comic).

But is Twilight or Night Light the author? Let the speculation commence.

Sep 25, 2013 at 07:58PM EDT
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Jimmy Lethal wrote:

But is Twilight or Night Light the author? Let the speculation commence.

It’s Twilight’s mom. See the picture next to the plaques? Notice how the hair is the same?

So we now know what one parent does. The question is, why didn’t Twi bring this up during the episode (since she’d obviously know)?

Sep 25, 2013 at 09:25PM EDT
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Well, as seen in Boast Busters Twilight doesn’t want to boast much. It WOULD seem like a bit of showing off if you say “Hey Rainbow Dash, read this billion dollar award winning book series. My mom wrote it.” Or………maybe you can chalk it up to the comics not being 100% canon. Either option seems valid to me.

Sep 25, 2013 at 10:19PM EDT
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Jimmy Lethal wrote:

But is Twilight or Night Light the author? Let the speculation commence.

Also, to add to what Platus said, Twilight Velvet in the portrait is wearing the medal that is right underneath it. Presumably, the medal is related to the Author of the Year/Daring Do plaques so I think it’s safe to say that Twilight Velvet is the author. Semi-canonically anyway.

Sep 25, 2013 at 11:38PM EDT
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Twilight’s mom is the author of Daring Do? I just don’t see it. Maybe she writes Daring Do fan-fiction….. …..yeah I’ll go with that.

Sep 26, 2013 at 12:16AM EDT
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Twilight never forgave her mother for lying to her all those years.

Sep 26, 2013 at 02:52AM EDT
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@DeadParrot222
The second picture is technically wrong. It’s Library Student Nerd Rage time! 920 is not a class in the Dewey Decimal Classification system. DDC consists of 10 classes which are divided into 10 divisions that have 10 sections. 900 (for History & geography) is the class, 920 (for Biographies) is the division within the 900 class, and anything from 920-929 is a section.

Sep 26, 2013 at 08:52AM EDT
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@DeadParrot: Daring Do: true story.

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Sep 26, 2013 at 10:14AM EDT
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@level4outbreak

Back when I used to hang out at Libraries, I used to find stuff with numbers like… Oh… Let’s say 808.2

…I have no idea what it means when there’s a “point two” in the number.

Sep 26, 2013 at 10:17AM EDT
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Lunar Protege wrote:

@level4outbreak

Back when I used to hang out at Libraries, I used to find stuff with numbers like… Oh… Let’s say 808.2

…I have no idea what it means when there’s a “point two” in the number.

The decimals are used to signify that the library item (book, DVD, CD, etc.) is about a specific subject within those classes, divisions, and sections. As an (admittedly meta) example:
000=Computer science, information & general works
020=Library & information sciences
025=Operations of libraries, archives, information centers
025.4=Subject analysis and control
025.43=General classification systems
025.431=Dewey Decimal Classification

As you can see, the decimals numbers are there to designate specific topics. There are even tables of more numbers that you can tack on if you need to get even more specific.

Sep 26, 2013 at 10:45AM EDT
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First rule of Dewey Decimal system: Don’t talk about Dewey Decimal system unless……..Nope can’t find a Dewey Decimal pony that doesn’t look like some cheap OC that only Kewln00b could make. No Dewey Decimal thread.

Sep 26, 2013 at 11:26AM EDT
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Somebody needs to ponify the Dewey Decimal system.

And then ship that pony with Twilight.

Is there a class number for “sweet, literary lovin’”?

Sep 26, 2013 at 12:31PM EDT
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Platus wrote:

Somebody needs to ponify the Dewey Decimal system.

And then ship that pony with Twilight.

Is there a class number for “sweet, literary lovin’”?

Platus, you genius. I’ll see what I can do.

Sep 26, 2013 at 12:45PM EDT
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