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KYM Pony General VII: Live Free or Twi Hard

Last posted Jul 06, 2014 at 04:08PM EDT. Added Apr 19, 2013 at 12:22AM EDT
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@Jyron Stone

Speaking of the primary issue in the episode, I really, really like how they handled it. AJ’s side of things was presented believably and sympathetically, when they could have just as easily made everyone but Fluttershy into pretty much bloodthirsty idiots. Fluttershy’s side, while being shown as the “right” solution, was also implicitly shown to be somewhat idealistic: notice in the song how the vampire bats become all fluffy and cutesy when she sings, despite them being exactly as ugly as AJ describes them even outside of the song. SHIT’S SO TACTFUL I LOVE IT AAAAAAAAAAA

You know, that was actually one of my only issues with this episode. Both Applejack and Fluttershy had problems with their plans, yet Applejack is the only one who needed to apologize at the end. I mean, I know Fluttershy was right after all, and that’s fine, but it just feels like her moral of “Don’t get pressured into things if you don’t think they’re right” could just as easily be applied to Applejack’s arguement, which brings it more to “Don’t get pressured into things unless you’re wrong, which you might be.”

I don’t know, maybe I’m just spouting rubbish. I am glad that nobody was shown as utterly wrong, but unless Fluttershy is 100% guaranteed to be right all the time and the mane cast should just listen to her to avoid literally all conflict, I feel like the peer pressure moral wasn’t a perfect fit. Feel free to argue.


Other than that, the episode was great. Lots of good jokes, some long-awaited Applesauce and Fluttershutter interaction, everyone seemed in-character and Flutterbat’s design was adorable as a flutterbat out of hell all hell. Also, the little fang at the end was cool… I hope they keep it as a part of her build from now on. I mean, it’s unlikely they would bother remembering such a small detail, but this is the season of delicious, delicious status quo change.


Edit: My first page get! About damn time. I’m going to post Flutterbat to watch over this page with her mighty brooding powers!
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Double edit: Well, it looks like the exclaimation point at the end of this episode’s title is exploderising the embed. Plan B.

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Dec 28, 2013 at 06:28PM EST
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I like this episode. And It’s official: Fluttershy does not care about the small businesspony.

It’s been a while, I know. Haven’t watched a single episode in a while. Especially the super hero one.

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Dec 28, 2013 at 06:48PM EST
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Bruno the Rustler wrote:

I like this episode. And It’s official: Fluttershy does not care about the small businesspony.

It’s been a while, I know. Haven’t watched a single episode in a while. Especially the super hero one.

This gif is going to be seen every three posts from now on, isn’t it?

Dec 28, 2013 at 08:16PM EST
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@

I also like how they were all walking around with giant bat-signal flashlights the whole time. Also, it’s great to see the return of Pinkie’s prehensile forelock. Another slippage from Equestria Girls: she went from using her hair to open a beer cider bottle to using it to operate a flashlight. Is there anything it can’t do?

And the return of cider in the episode too, and yet more evidence that Rainbow Dash is a serious alcoholic. Perhaps that’s why they won’t let her in the Wonderbolts?

Dec 28, 2013 at 08:47PM EST
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Who said Flutterbat wasn’t cute?
Just look at-

OH, GOD! RUN!

Ah, who am I kidding?

(By the way, anyone else notice that her cutie mark changed to little pink bats? Double adorbs!)


@Episode
I do agree that some of the immediate motivations and ending lessons may have been fudged a bit for brevity, but it was very cool to see a conflict that wasn’t absolute black-and-white and overall this episode was just really fun!
(I did also get the feeling that this may have been originally intended as a Halloween episode, but wound up getting bumped back for whatever reason.)
Tons of entertaining callbacks (Cider Dash, ‘Fruit Bat Round-Up!’), an awesome song in a style we’ve never seen MLP pull off before, and an unexpected twist giving us some new magical lore and a redesign of a well-known character.
Plus, that cliff-hanger!
Combined that with the still-unexplained ‘Pony of Shadows’ and that whole subplot with the keys, I have a feeling that a lot of threads are going to be tied up later in the season.

Also of note:

Considering the very ‘musical’ tone of the song we did get, this is both entirely plausible and a little disappointing since it could have been really awesome as a full-blown Gothic musical!

I do notice the way AKR worded her tweet, though…
She says ’ the musical episode’ rather than ’ a musical episode’ which sounds to me like a pretty direct implication that we will be getting a true musical episode at some point in this season.
Woo!


“I tried to eat ponies?!?!”

“Uh…”


Guys, I think Pinkie picked up a few tricks from Mane-iac…

Or maybe Pinkie is Mane-iac?!
DUN DUN DUN!

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Dec 29, 2013 at 12:35AM EST
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Wait a minute, Pinkie Pie using her hair to grab and hold things? Why does that sound familiar?

EDIT Damn, Scootafag beat me to the joke.

Back on topic, Flutterbat is so freaking cute! First we got Flutterhulk, now Flutterbat. If we keep getting more awesome Flutter-transformations, then everyone will agree that Fluttershy is best pone.

We’ve seen bat ponies on the show before in Luna Eclipsed. How did they become bat ponies? Did they stare at vampire fruit bats while a spell was being cast on them? Is that how bat ponies are made?
Oh well. Flutterbat is still cute.

This was a decent episode. I liked the song. I usually don’t care who the writer is, but Merriwether Williams is hit or miss for me. I don’t want to say she’s my least favorite writer (even though she has been the writer of my least favorite episodes), but she can write good episodes and this is one of them.

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Dec 29, 2013 at 12:38AM EST
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@Maneiac hair

Actually, we’ve seen Pinkie do some stuff like that before. To wit:

This might be the first legit callback to Equestria Girls in the show.

Dec 29, 2013 at 12:41AM EST
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@Platus
Perhaps, but that EQG Pinkie seems to be more using her hair as a tool, whereas pony Pinkie’s hair is acting more like an actual prehensile limb (i.e.: with full muscle control and everything)
Definitely similar, but I’d stop short of calling it a callback to EQG and put it down simply as more wacky Pinkie shenanigans.


By the way, this was created way back in February:

Apparently we know what to expect in the upcoming episodes thanks to this time-traveling wizard!


Less than 12 hours after airing:

These people are just too fast!


And AJ returns to her superhero persona:

Dec 29, 2013 at 01:28AM EST
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Ah, so much awesome fanart material in this episode

I loled! It’s simply impossible for fluttershy to not be cute, no matter what hideous monsters they make her into

Between Rarity in her hazmat suit, Pinkiedrill, Twilights holographic command console and the rest of the dialogue I thought this episode was pretty funny.

I kinda like how this season is looking to be more action packed while still being lesson based (though it could be argued that this season is lacking more in the lesson department because of that, but oh well.) Either way I’m finding the show enjoyable. I didn’t even skip through the song!

And of course it’s great to see more characterization from all 6 ponies this time. It’s especially nice to see some focus on AJ again. I almost forgot about her over the last few episodes

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Dec 29, 2013 at 10:06AM EST
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Hey Deadparrot, you have a new plush to add to your Mt. Everest sized mountain of Plushes.

………Granted none of us even know if Deadparrot already bought this or not. My money is on him already bought 3 of them last night.

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Dec 29, 2013 at 12:09PM EST
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^But that’s not Scootaloo!

On another note, later tonight I’m finally going to start watching the series at long last… Current plan is to work through TSG’s list, though part of me is tempted to just watch Season 4 so I could start joining in these discussions quicker (though that’s probably the worse idea).

Dec 29, 2013 at 12:12PM EST
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CrashGordon94 wrote:

^But that’s not Scootaloo!

On another note, later tonight I’m finally going to start watching the series at long last… Current plan is to work through TSG’s list, though part of me is tempted to just watch Season 4 so I could start joining in these discussions quicker (though that’s probably the worse idea).

Are these all Scootaloo?

Or these?!

Deadparrot doesn’t judge.

Dec 29, 2013 at 12:28PM EST
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Kewln00b? wrote:

Are these all Scootaloo?

Or these?!

Deadparrot doesn’t judge.

Fuck, I’m not counting that many. Let’s just say he has three million and move on.


CrashGordon was all like:

I wonder if it’s going to become a meme…

Oh shit.


I also found out that the EuroChaos Mix of Discord is on the Rock Band Network! Really fun song to play.

Dec 29, 2013 at 12:32PM EST
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Kewln00b? wrote:

Are these all Scootaloo?

Or these?!

Deadparrot doesn’t judge.

Yes, we all know Scoots is a master of disguise!

Seriously though, I stand corrected.

Dec 29, 2013 at 12:37PM EST
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Kewln00b? wrote:

Are these all Scootaloo?

Or these?!

Deadparrot doesn’t judge.

I sometimes look at DeadParrot’s plush collection and suddenly feel very scared…
Well, he’s not called the plush master for nothing

Dec 29, 2013 at 01:30PM EST
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Crimson Locks wrote:

I sometimes look at DeadParrot’s plush collection and suddenly feel very scared…
Well, he’s not called the plush master for nothing

Actually when I look at a room of plushes modeled after the most adorable things I’ve ever seen ‘scared’ is the LAST emotion I feel. I did try to count them, I got like 75 on the first one, had to start over because every time I tried I’d end up counting one twice. But then when I got to the second picture I just said fuck it and I’m just going to give Deadparrot, a freaking medal.

Oh, and I didn’t even bother to post the pictures of Deadparrot’s Rainbow Dash hill and Scootaloo mountain he has. Felt that would be a little too overkill after seeing the first two pictures. It’s funny because out of all the custom titles all these folks here have Deadparrot’s is definitely the most deserving.

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Dec 29, 2013 at 01:47PM EST
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Insouciant Insect wrote:

I decided to be more active on the site today…

I somewhat wonder if it is entirely necessary to use the spoiler tag in the galleries after the episode has already officially aired (hell, even the say after it aired). I guess I was just under the assumption that the gallery standard on spoiler tagging would fall into the same standard that this thread has. I guess stuff like this is to be expected when users are left to decide for themselves what would count as a spoiler and for the most part I bet a lot of people are using the “better safe than sorry” approach. Hopefully the overuse of the spoiler tag will slow down eventually

Dec 29, 2013 at 03:29PM EST
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Crimson Locks wrote:

I somewhat wonder if it is entirely necessary to use the spoiler tag in the galleries after the episode has already officially aired (hell, even the say after it aired). I guess I was just under the assumption that the gallery standard on spoiler tagging would fall into the same standard that this thread has. I guess stuff like this is to be expected when users are left to decide for themselves what would count as a spoiler and for the most part I bet a lot of people are using the “better safe than sorry” approach. Hopefully the overuse of the spoiler tag will slow down eventually

Any of you with image editing powers can undo spoilers. So if you see content spoilered that doesn’t require spoilers, you are allowed to undo it. We trust you know what’s best.

Look for a balance, help each other in the right direction. Show how to use it right, and it will be used right. We don’t have official guidelines on the spoilers yet, so for now it’s up to the userbase what requires them.

Dec 29, 2013 at 04:52PM EST
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I haven’t even watched the new episode yet and I already love Flutterbat.

Dec 29, 2013 at 05:34PM EST
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Iamslow wrote:

I haven’t even watched the new episode yet and I already love Flutterbat.

IT’S TOO ADORABLE

Dec 29, 2013 at 06:09PM EST
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Jimmy "Sniper" Lethal wrote:

IT’S TOO ADORABLE


You realize what you’re >implying here, right?

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Dec 29, 2013 at 06:47PM EST
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CrashGordon94 wrote:


You realize what you’re >implying here, right?

I’d say it’s less “implying” and more “stated outright.”

Just clean up afterwords, mmmm’kay?

Dec 29, 2013 at 07:04PM EST
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Platus wrote:

I’d say it’s less “implying” and more “stated outright.”

Just clean up afterwords, mmmm’kay?

That was really the only proper GIF I could find. I was implying a heart attack from adorableness, not… never mind.

Dec 29, 2013 at 07:12PM EST
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Kewln00b? wrote:

Are these all Scootaloo?

Or these?!

Deadparrot doesn’t judge.

I can’t help it!
I have a one-track mind when it comes to pony plushies!

To be fair, the second picture is actually an update to the first, so every one in the first is also in the second (minus the Scoots and RDs who split into their own groups).

As for that Flutterbat plush, she’s actually up on eBay right now: Flutterbat1
And so is a second one that was finished a few hours later, but with the added feature of being able to hang!

Flutterbat2
Seriously, across all the plushies and sculptures and artwork and everything, Flutterbat has been one of the most rapid and expansive characters in a long time!
The cuteness is just overwhelming!


+

MAKE IT HAPPEN

Dec 29, 2013 at 07:32PM EST
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Jimmy "Sniper" Lethal wrote:

That was really the only proper GIF I could find. I was implying a heart attack from adorableness, not… never mind.

Are you SURE that’s not what you meant?

Dec 29, 2013 at 07:38PM EST
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Jimmy "Sniper" Lethal wrote:

That was really the only proper GIF I could find. I was implying a heart attack from adorableness, not… never mind.

Dec 29, 2013 at 07:45PM EST
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@DeadParrot: It hangs?… IT HANGS!?!? MUST. HAVE.
> Current bid $250
Oh… I hate not having money sometimes.

I would agree that Flutterbat has accumulated more fanart than any MLP character in quite a while. I really didn’t find her all that cute while watching the episode but the multitude of fan work has made me quite a fan. I wonder if this will have any staying power?

Dec 29, 2013 at 08:19PM EST
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Jimmy "Sniper" Lethal wrote:

That was really the only proper GIF I could find. I was implying a heart attack from adorableness, not… never mind.


Found that by typing "HNNNNNNG into the KYM search bar. C’mon Jimmy.

Dec 29, 2013 at 08:34PM EST
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@Episode
I thought it was good. Not great, but a nice standard episode. Applejack once again proved herself as background pony by not only being entirely focused on her farm, but also getting upstaged yet again by another character. They really need to give Applejack some better characterization then “apples. apples, apples.”

I was a little disheartened by how quickly everyone sided with Applejack, especially Twilight. I see you’ve completely forgotten about A Canterlot Wedding and Lesson Zero. Then there’s Twilight’s continued emulation of Celestia in showing how useless she is. You’ve shown in Castle Mane-ia that you can restrain five ponies simultaneously, why don’t you whip out some of your magic and actually use it correctly? You’re like 0-5 in your own special talent!

6.5/10. (It didn’t help I’ve been watch Breaking Bad lately, which, unfortunately, kicks MLP’s ass story-wise. Dat poor John de Lancie character.)

Kewln00bs name isn’t special said:

…vampire…
…turns Fluttershy into a fucking vampire…

Windigo with salad said:

…Fluttershy turning into a vampire…

Jyron Stone said:

…how the vampire bats…

Disturbed B said:

…vampire fruit bats…

This is the only thing that made me genuinely pissed off. You can’t have a vampire without sucking blood (whether it actually happens or is just a “craving”). Fluttershy wasn’t a “vampire.” She never sucked blood nor had the desire to suck blood. Same with the bats. How the hell you can have a vampire fruit bat is beyond me. I know they were trying to have a “spooky” atmosphere while still being a show aimed at six year old girls, but jimmies are always rustled when such severe terminology misuse occurs.

I guess that handwave can be made that the fruit bats are literally made out of fruit (which raises some ethical questions regarding ponies supposedly vegetarian diets) and so are committing vampirism (sucking the “lifeforce” out of a living thing similar to them) but that still doesn’t qualify Fluttershy as a vampire and is a pretty stupid handwave that strains the Suspension of Disbelief when simply using a different name for the bats would work a lot better.

Distrubed B said (again):

…then everyone will agree that Fluttershy is best pone.

Except for canon, which long ago confirmed Twilight as cutest, smartest, all around best pony. And as we all know, canon’s the only thing that really matters.

Is that how bat ponies are made?

I doubt it. For one, bat ponies have actual bat wings, whereas Fluttershy’s wings retained their normal coloring. In addition, Fluttershy’s “cravings” would make it difficult for a military force to use that type of bat pony.

CrashGordon94 said:

Current plan is to work through TSG’s list…

I had totally forgotten I had done that list. Has it really been that long since the hiatus?

You better live-blog your reactions.


Cries of “the designs are horrible” “I guess Hasbro learned absolutely nothing from last time” and “there is a point when you’ve jumped and this would be it.” are already ringing out and I haven’t even been onto /mlp/ yet. It warms the cockles of my heart to know that shitstorms are still alive and well in the middle of a season.

I’m also wondering how long I should leave my Santa!Tweyelicorn avatar up for. New Year’s is generally considered the end of the holiday season, isn’t it?

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Dec 29, 2013 at 09:00PM EST
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@TSG

I bet the writers wanted an actual vampire, but the execs wouldn’t let them do it. Not ‘kid friendly’ enough

Dec 29, 2013 at 09:29PM EST
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You better live-blog your reactions.

Hmmm, what’s a live-blog? Do I just post my thoughts on here after I watch a given episode (or episodes)? If so, I can definitely do that!

Dec 29, 2013 at 09:46PM EST
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I’m pretty sure my reaction to the new episode is predictable: I.E. Fluttershy as a bat-y pony is cute.

Still waiting for the canonical bat pony race to get some spotlight though.

… Now excuse me, I only just got a stable internet connection after being stuck in the middle of nowhere for a week… I have a few things to catch up on.

Dec 29, 2013 at 10:08PM EST
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Lunar Protege wrote:

I’m pretty sure my reaction to the new episode is predictable: I.E. Fluttershy as a bat-y pony is cute.

Still waiting for the canonical bat pony race to get some spotlight though.

… Now excuse me, I only just got a stable internet connection after being stuck in the middle of nowhere for a week… I have a few things to catch up on.

Question about bat ponies being a “race”: it’s been pretty well established that there are only three “main” pony races: unicorns, pegasus ponies, and earth ponies. They are the only three in the Hearthswarming episode, and also the only three in the CMC’s Equestria Games song. So where do the bat ponies come in? Are they just a variation on the pegasus ponies? (And, if so, are there similar variations for the other two – like maybe zebras and earth ponies?) Or are they some kind of other thing not connected to the pony trifecta, but still employed by the princesses?

Dec 29, 2013 at 10:12PM EST
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Platus wrote:

Question about bat ponies being a “race”: it’s been pretty well established that there are only three “main” pony races: unicorns, pegasus ponies, and earth ponies. They are the only three in the Hearthswarming episode, and also the only three in the CMC’s Equestria Games song. So where do the bat ponies come in? Are they just a variation on the pegasus ponies? (And, if so, are there similar variations for the other two – like maybe zebras and earth ponies?) Or are they some kind of other thing not connected to the pony trifecta, but still employed by the princesses?

Have some Word of God:


So cute~

Flutterbat is best bat.

Dec 29, 2013 at 11:34PM EST
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Jimmy "Sniper" Lethal wrote:

That was really the only proper GIF I could find. I was implying a heart attack from adorableness, not… never mind.

Jimmy wants to cum inside Flutterbat

Oh internet, you and your rule 34.

Dec 30, 2013 at 12:04AM EST
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CrashGordon94 said:

Hmmm, what’s a live-blog? Do I just post my thoughts on here after I watch a given episode (or episodes)? If so, I can definitely do that!

You’re supposed to do it while you’re watching the episodes (it’s supposed to be to see what your reaction is to a given scene) but I never really understood how or why someone would post while they’re watching as it seems like it would distract them so after the episodes is fine.

In going a-whoring news, I did the cover art to my next oneshot today.

Take a wild guess as to what the plot’s about. Hopefully I’ll have it finished by the end of tomorrow.

Dec 30, 2013 at 08:36AM EST
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Kewln00b? wrote:


Found that by typing "HNNNNNNG into the KYM search bar. C’mon Jimmy.

B-but muh GIF

Dec 30, 2013 at 12:06PM EST
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Got back from Louisiana yesterday and just saw the two new eps. This season is kicking some serious ass right now.

I especially liked the Flutterbat episode…kind of hoping they stick with the ending and have her remain a vampire by night. Also, dat song.

Ingram’s command of tone color and rhythm in this one were just excellent. Also, for those of you interested, this is the first mlp song primarily in the minor key, and to quite good effect I should say. I love a good minor song. Also, did you hear Rarity and Dash’s little lines? Them vocals are just tasty. Just an excellent, fun song all around. I’m going to go listen to it 50 more times now.

STOP THE BATS STOP THE BATS
MAKE THEM GO AND NOT COME BACK
STOP THE BATS STOP THE BATS
MAKE THEM GO AND NOT COME BACK

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Dec 30, 2013 at 01:56PM EST
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Fifths wrote:

Got back from Louisiana yesterday and just saw the two new eps. This season is kicking some serious ass right now.

I especially liked the Flutterbat episode…kind of hoping they stick with the ending and have her remain a vampire by night. Also, dat song.

Ingram’s command of tone color and rhythm in this one were just excellent. Also, for those of you interested, this is the first mlp song primarily in the minor key, and to quite good effect I should say. I love a good minor song. Also, did you hear Rarity and Dash’s little lines? Them vocals are just tasty. Just an excellent, fun song all around. I’m going to go listen to it 50 more times now.

STOP THE BATS STOP THE BATS
MAKE THEM GO AND NOT COME BACK
STOP THE BATS STOP THE BATS
MAKE THEM GO AND NOT COME BACK

I know what you mean. When I first heard Rarity in that song I was like “Dafuq is that?! Dafuq was that Rarity?! Why do you sound so cruel?! What happened to my golden voiced goddess? I don’t like change Ingram!” Like I said the other day, I am so hyped for the songs this season after these last two songs to the point where even if these songs can’t live up to my unbelievably high hype the songs will probably still kickass considering I only disliked two songs (Looking at you Applejack and your Racist barn and you fucking Fluttershy recolors singing about Princess Twilight.)

Dec 30, 2013 at 08:49PM EST
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Kewln00b? wrote:

I know what you mean. When I first heard Rarity in that song I was like “Dafuq is that?! Dafuq was that Rarity?! Why do you sound so cruel?! What happened to my golden voiced goddess? I don’t like change Ingram!” Like I said the other day, I am so hyped for the songs this season after these last two songs to the point where even if these songs can’t live up to my unbelievably high hype the songs will probably still kickass considering I only disliked two songs (Looking at you Applejack and your Racist barn and you fucking Fluttershy recolors singing about Princess Twilight.)

Is it a coincidence that the Flutters recolors had the same color scheme as Surprise, who is very similar to Pinkie Pie in appearance? Stay tuned…

Dec 31, 2013 at 01:56PM EST
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Title: Pinkie Pride
Air Date: February 1
Synopsis: Pinkie Pie must defend her status as a party pony when a mysterious visitor comes to town and plans a party for Rainbow Dash.
(Featuring Special Guest Star “Wield Al” Yankovic)

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In whoremongering news, my fanfic, >Dat Hivemind is now complete and has even been featured on Fimfiction. I guess there weren’t any foalcon stories so mine was able to squeeze itself in.

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Dec 31, 2013 at 05:20PM EST
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xTSGx was all like:

I guess there weren’t any foalcon stories so mine was able to squeeze itself in.


@Weird Al Episode:

Dec 31, 2013 at 05:41PM EST
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It is now officially 2014 in the Netherlands, so I wish you all a happy new year!

Dec 31, 2013 at 06:45PM EST
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Jimmy "Sniper" Lethal wrote:

xTSGx was all like:

I guess there weren’t any foalcon stories so mine was able to squeeze itself in.


@Weird Al Episode:

Way to go Jimmy.

Dec 31, 2013 at 06:45PM EST
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Zorgenflarg wrote:

It is now officially 2014 in the Netherlands, so I wish you all a happy new year!

Wat’s the future like? Have you gotten the whole jetpack thing sorted out?

Dec 31, 2013 at 06:48PM EST
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Platus wrote:

Wat’s the future like? Have you gotten the whole jetpack thing sorted out?

We’ll have hoverboards next year at least according to Back to the Future 2.

Dec 31, 2013 at 06:59PM EST
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Kewln00b? wrote:

We’ll have hoverboards next year at least according to Back to the Future 2.

There’s also an antique store opening up in Hill Valley. They might take that shitty NES game.


Dec 31, 2013 at 08:14PM EST
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