First off, I think that was an incredibly dickish post, I don’t think I did anything whatsoever to deserve it, and I would like it if you apologized. I was trying to make a point that was playful and satirical in nature in hopes it might spark some debate about rules and enforcement on this thread, KYM, and maybe even generally; God knows we need something to talk about on here. You made a page get using all that vaunted verbosity to detail what an ignorant, arrogant, and immoral scumbag I am. I lightly criticized a policy decision that BSoD made; You made personal attacks and threats. Read my post and then reread your own and ask yourself whether you responded appropriately. Now then, onto the meat of the argument.
If there’s something I can’t stand, it’s when people speak confidently about things they don’t know about.
And then it’s nearly infuriating when they try to get smart about it and think they made some grant point on the foundation of an incorrect assumption.
And it’s downright disrespectful for that ignorant person to make a public post trying to shame a person trying to do their job.
Well, let’s start on the point we both agree on: That I am ignorant of the image posting regulations on this site. I don’t know what images are appropriate to post which are not.
My ignorance is really quite spectacular given that I’ve read the NSFW guidelines and I’ve been frequenting this site for years. One would think I should have a really good idea about what’s appropriate to post here and what’s not, and yet I don’t. I don’t think that’s quite all my fault though. You see, usually I’m able to see borderline pornographic shit float on by in this thread without comment, but then there are times like yesterday where the bi-quarterly butt festival gets entirely censored, including some very innocuous pictures. Hell, half of the images BSoD tagged are less risque than the ones you can find uncensored on his image uploads
So yeah, I’d say my ignorance here is quite understandable, more common than you might think, and maybe even a tiny bit your fault. You see, the point of having rules as opposed to just beating people who do things you don’t like is so that people can have an idea of what to avoid doing and we can thus live in an orderly society (or website as it were). You link to the NSFW guidelines and chastise me for not being familiar with them, but those guidelines are worth nothing when
1: They are left vague
2: They are enforced with all the constancy of a sparrow with the shits.
Now as you yourself partially acknowledge, the guidelines are vague. There are shots of bedroom eyes that would be considered fine and there are shots of butts that would be considered fine. Hell, this picture technically contains both and I don’t think anyone would look twice at it.
I’m not really complaining about the vague guidelines though. This is just a general problem inherent in deciding what we consider to be risque. We know when we’re looking at something suggestive, but we don’t know what exactly it is that makes something suggestive. The vague guidelines are just the necessary foundation to what I’ve got the real problem with.
Since it is impossible to fully state what makes a picture risque without being over or under inclusive, we have to rely on some moderator discretion when it comes to making the call of whether a picture is risque or not. I’d be fine with this if there was actually a reasonable amount of consistency in the decisions made from moderator to moderator and of a single mod over time. Again, you won’t be able to have that perfect dividing line of SFW and NSFW, but you can at least get a solid idea of it.
My problem with the image tagging yesterday is entirely with the lack of consistency. BSoD is a regular in this thread, and plenty of explicit images pass before his eyes without any comment. Suddenly some people lodge complaints and he just completely reverses the established precedent and starts censoring willy nilly. In a couple weeks we’ll be back to posting the same suggestive images which are the bread and butter of this thread, and he’ll probably be back to not caring. You’ll check in from time to time and make passive-aggressive posts simultaneously communicating your disapproval and implicit intention not to do anything about it. Then after a few months there will be another random image scourge, and we’ll be back here again.
Now then, you closed your address to me with a threat. I don’t have mod powers to levy against you, so I’ll just have to end mine with a statement of fact and a request. First the statement of fact: The moderation of this website shall proceed as it has proceeded in the past, which is to say more based on the whims of its many moderators than on any kind of established rules of conduct. The forum guidelines will be left intentionally vague so they can preemptively excuse a wide range of capricious moderator action (or inaction as it were).
And you know what? That’s okay. The reason why my original post was gentle and lighthearted as opposed to the indignant defamation of BSoD’s character you seem to imagine it for is because I understand that a certain level of autocracy is necessary for the running of an internet forum, and BSoD was at least acting congenially about his whiplash change of direction. I’d prefer it if you guys stood by your decisions more, but I acknowledge that you’ve at least got the right model…mostly, and the moderators have good sense and good intentions…mostly.
As for my request, Verbose, it is simply this: When on the drop of a hat you or another mod decide to reverse the de facto proceedings of this thread and start retroactively censoring posts, I ask that you not call me ignorant and a bad person for thinking it a little unfair.