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KYM Pony General VII: Live Free or Twi Hard

Last posted Jul 06, 2014 at 04:08PM EDT. Added Apr 19, 2013 at 12:22AM EDT
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DeadParrot222 wrote:

Huh-Wha?!

Did I miss a troll spam attack?
Aww…
We haven’t had one of those in a long time.
Anyone who happened to see it want to give a quick summary for those who missed out?
Just wondering what angle they took: gay, man-children, too many crossovers, etc.


Ponibooru is coming back from the dead to share more art?

Actually, I’m kind of indifferent at this point.
I mean, I loved Ponibooru back when it was the major pony image site, but it had quite a lot of problems even at the height of its popularity.
It was pretty unstable and crashed way too often, not to mention the frequent troll spam that, due to a lack of serious moderation, was never cleaned up.
Derpibooru, in my opinion, is an all-around better site that has taken over in Ponibooru’s absence and easily surpassed it in terms of quality.
Unless Ponibooru is resurrected with at least Derpibooru’s level of functionality (and more if it intends to usurp the new king), I can’t really see a case for bringing it back outside of sentimentality for the name.


Ponies are teaching math now!

(Applejack not included for obvious reasons)

Spambot, not a troll. Just a Spambot spamming “Have some free anime at www.anime4fun.com” obviously a website filled to the brim with computer destroying viruses and some fat guy sitting there waiting for you to show up so he can take over your computer. That’s all ya missed.

@Metallicolt thread. Fuck that, Metallicolt is the most overrated Metal band that in comparison to a lot of other Thrash Metal bands are pretty weak compared to them.
Instead I propose Megapony thread

Aug 07, 2013 at 11:23AM EDT
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On the subject of rock bands, can we all just take a moment to appreciate just how hilariously bad some early Kiss album covers were:


And also just how much better that band looks when you make al of them into ponies:

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Aug 07, 2013 at 12:27PM EDT
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Bro, you can mock Rock and Roll over considering they were all drunk as hell (except for Gene) but you NEVER insult the cover for Destroyer. THAT’S when I get offended.

Aug 07, 2013 at 12:40PM EDT
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Kewln00b? wrote:

Bro, you can mock Rock and Roll over considering they were all drunk as hell (except for Gene) but you NEVER insult the cover for Destroyer. THAT’S when I get offended.

What, you mean the example of MS Paint art that I have posted above? I’m not allowed to insult that? You make Applejack sad.

Aug 07, 2013 at 12:58PM EDT
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She thought intensely, and a lightbulb came on in her head. She then galloped towards the town square quickly, until she arrived at her destination; the Day Spa.
Of course! Whenever the Inn stressed me out, I’d go to the spa! She entered quickly, and looked around at the waiting room. It was decorated very neatly with smooth and polished marble columns lined throughout. Chloe walked over to a seat, and sat down waiting.
“My sister and I told you… we are not that kind of parlor! Take your perverted self elsewhere!” a voice yelled angrily, and soon after a unicorn was thrown out into the waiting room. Chloe turned to him, and recognized him as the unicorn guard who came earlier.
“What are you doing here!?” Chloe interrogated.
“Well… look who’s here! Have our bits ready, or can we lock you up now?” Disturbed asked, not at all pleasantly.
“You should have them in no time!” Chloe replied confidently. “But you didn’t answer my question… what are you doing here?”
“Oh… this shithole… apparently the spa doesn’t offer any ‘special’ services,” Disturbed said disappointedly.
“What is that… I don’t even…” Chloe said, unaware of what Disturbed meant.
“You serious? Didn’t your old job involve a spa or some shit?” Disturbed asked, and before Chloe could respond, continued. “You know… happy ending massages… preenings… horn jobs… the usual. Your spa didn’t have that?”
“I doubt our old masseuse… would do anything like that,” Chloe said, looking away a bit after remembering her fight with Leon.
“Wow… I can see why the asshole who ran that Inn had two employees fired,” Disturbed said. He then stood up, and turned to leave. “You know what? Maybe I can use the spell again…” he said, leaving the building.
Chloe rolled her eyes at Disturbed, and saw two ponies exit into the waiting room. They both saw Chloe, and smiled widely. “Welcome, madam, to the Ponyville Day Spa!” one of them said.
Chloe noticed that they were both identical in nearly every way to each other, with the only exception being their hide and mane colors, but even those were just swapped from each other.
“Allow us to introduce ourselves! I am Lotus Blossom!” one of them, a blue earth pony with a long, straightened, pink mane said.
“And I am Aloe Vera!” the other, a pink earth pony with a blue mane of the same style, stated. “May we help you?” They both seemed unusually happy, Chloe thought to herself, before she spoke up.
“Hmm? Um… just a quick full body, please,” Chloe requested.
“Not a problem! Follow us!” Aloe said, and they both led Chloe into the spa. Chloe was impressed at seeing this spa had much more equipment, Jacuzzis, saunas, and rooms than the Inn had. Why am I surprised? This isn’t really another business… it was made to be a spa, unlike the Inn.
The two twins led Chloe into a room with a massage table, designed to include memory foam inside the mattress. That was made for comfort. Already, I can tell this place was made with customer satisfaction in mind.
“Just wait here, madam, and your masseuse will be with you shortly,” Lotus informed Chloe, and the two twins left Chloe alone in the room. As she waited, she took a quick look at her surroundings.
She saw a bucket of water, and remembered that her mane was still lit. Not wanting to risk anypony’s safety, she took a deep breath, and dunked her head inside, putting out her mane. She then turned around, and sat in the bucket to put her tail out as well, sighing in relief as she did.
She then returned to the massage table, and lay facedown on it, waiting for her massage. She heard the door open, and the masseuse speaking to her. “OK, ma’am, full body coming up!”
Chloe couldn’t believe her ears. That voice… why did it have to be him!? She looked up in surprise, and correctly identified the masseuse as Leon. He turned to her as well, and gave a shocked look in return. “Wha… Chloe!? What are you doing here!?”
She immediately felt herself trying to hold in her anger, but it failed. Her mane lit up, more ferocious than before, and she stood up to confront Leon angrily. “Well, I had come here to relax, but now I see that’s gonna be impossible with you here!” she struck angrily.
“What!? You’re the one who came here!” Leon argued.
“And now I’ll be leaving!” Chloe stated angrily.
“Ooh… not a good idea. You see… you’re already under the Royal Guard’s database for grand theft, and you’re currently under the clock for a full body. You leave without paying, and you’re technically eligible to be locked up,” Leon pointed out, grinning widely.
Chloe saw as he did, and her flame grew even larger. “You’d enjoy that, wouldn’t you?” she asked disappointedly.
“Well… no. If I did, I wouldn’t have warned you. I’m just a masseuse… I’ll do my job, no matter the customer. Now… are you going to remain still?” Leon asked expectedly, obviously not too enthusiastic about the situation.
Chloe seethed in rage, but then her mane began to slowly lower. She turned away for a moment, and lowered her head as she returned to the table.
Leon sighed, and began to slowly rub Chloe’s back with his wings. “I don’t see why you’re upset, Chloe. You’re the one who said you didn’t need me,” Leon pointed out sadly.
Chloe knew this was coming, and she sighed in depression as well. “I never said I didn’t need you… I said I didn’t need your help getting back on my hooves,” Chloe corrected.
“And what was wrong with me offering to help? You didn’t have to shoot me down as harshly as you did then!” Leon argued.
Chloe was about to protest, but it was no use. He was right; she had yelled at him when he only offered to help. She then turned back around to face him.
“Well… you’re right. I didn’t have to. But I didn’t want to accept your help… because if I did… I’d only be taking advantage of you,” Chloe admitted sadly.
Leon turned to her now, almost shocked at what he heard. “Why would you think that? There’s nothing you could do to ever take advantage of me.” He then raised Chloe up. “You’re tough… and self-reliant. Hell, at the Inn, you’re the one who always watched over it, and no one got past you. Remember that?” Leon asked, trying to comfort her.
“And you’re a sweet guy… a bit of a neat freak at times… but you’re the sweetest stallion I’ve ever met. I know you’d never turn anypony down… and that’s what I was trying to avoid. I didn’t want to have that on me,” Chloe said.
“Again… it’s fine. If you didn’t want my help… you could’ve just said so.” He turned away, and approached Chloe. “For what it’s worth…” he stated before being interrupted by Chloe’s hoof.
“No… I don’t forgive you…” she said bluntly.

Damn character limits… the section will be finished on the next page.

@ Rock Bands

Luna and Bat Ponies are best rock band.

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Aug 07, 2013 at 03:10PM EDT
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Album covers? I believe I’ve posted a couple of these a while back. They still make me as happy as when I first found them…

Aug 07, 2013 at 05:06PM EDT
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@Level4
Dat Jane Doe cover. Easily one of my favourite albums of all time, though, to be honest, Pinkie doesn’t really fit the theme of it.

Found this cover when looking at the image gallery

Aug 07, 2013 at 05:11PM EDT
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Alright, let me tell a story. A story about a faggot.

So, I checked /dA/ for art when I stumble across an underage kid’s work. Basically, what he’s posting is pictures of his red and black OC and Vinyl. Simple enough. But I haven’t gotten to the best part. He makes them in Pony Creator, makes a shitty background on MS Paint, and then proceeds to claim he drew the ponies by himself, DESPITE THEM CLEARLY BEING MADE IN PONY CREATOR. Now, I use Pony Creator. But at least I acknowledge I do and even make fun of my own work. I mean, have you seen the cutie marks I added to some of those? They’re horrible!

Anyway, after going through a few pictures of this crap, I finally decide to check the comments. Somebody makes a “messing with my headcanon” joke, the kid asks what that means, and the guy explains headcanon and says he believes Vinyl is with Octavia. This is the response that follows by the kid:

bitch this is my way, she is not a fucking lesbian, you goddamn pesdastrian!!

so this is my way, now shut the fuck and go jump on a cliff!!

Pretty faggy, right? Left with no other option, I did what I had to do. I fucking buried him like Triple H.

That’s him – XxBLOODSH3DxX. Frickin’ brutal name, amirite? So, to bring this story to a close, underage kid who rages at others about their opinions is buried by me, now known as the “Shovel Man of /dA/.”

Aug 07, 2013 at 05:12PM EDT
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@Jimbo
I understand that this guy annoyed you, and that his comment was immature. But aren’t you a bit overreacting here? Also, calling him a 10 year old faggot , then later saying he’s homophobic, is a bit contradictioning.

Btw:
Do you perhaps have a link to his stuff?

Aug 07, 2013 at 05:36PM EDT
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Kewln00b The Master of Unlocking said:

Spambot, not a troll. Just a Spambot spamming “Have some free anime at www.anime4fun.com”

>implying I don’t use justdub.tv, watchcartoonsonline.com, and pokemonepisode.org for my anime needs

These spambots need to get with the program.

@Rock music stuff
I hate rock music--well metal music. I don’t mind the old fashioned “gonna corrupt our kids” rock music from the 60’s, but all that screaming and hair banging, uck.

@Jimmy Lethel

>DeviantART
>Faggot

This surprises you because?

For those of you offended by the use of the word “faggot”, have Scootaloo contemplating whether or not to pick up a faggot (well, technically, a piece of a faggot).

Mike said:

Also, calling him a 10 year old faggot , then later saying he’s homophobic, is a bit contradictioning.

The internet’s use of the word “faggot” is different from the general populace’s. I wrote an entire essay on how the internet and certain groups of blacks are trying to redefine hateful slurs (“faggot” and “nigger”) so that they lose their meaning. Unfortunately, the two black students in my English class didn’t agree and nearly ragequit.

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Aug 07, 2013 at 05:42PM EDT
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Zorgenflarg wrote:

@Jimbo
I understand that this guy annoyed you, and that his comment was immature. But aren’t you a bit overreacting here? Also, calling him a 10 year old faggot , then later saying he’s homophobic, is a bit contradictioning.

Btw:
Do you perhaps have a link to his stuff?

I generally use “faggot” as a standard insult rather than a homophobic slur. As for a link, be warned.

Oh, and looky here, he responded to me.

I believe the most glaring statement is “oh by the way, i am 15 years old, EXTRA SHITHEAD POINTS FOR YOU!!!”. Ahem, I’m fifteen. He’s just acting like an autistic child on meth. Another spot would have to be “jimmy lethal, seriously, ha! that is far the worst username i have ever seen in deviant art!!!”. So my username sucks. Good, I’ve always wanted it to join Primus. Seriously, Jimmy Lethal has to be one of the most stoke-loaded usernames on the internet. Oh, and that big space on the first comment? It was a shitty Muro drawing of a middle finger. Here, I’ll even put it up for you:

I can already tell I’m going to have a lot of fun with this.

Aug 07, 2013 at 05:55PM EDT
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@Jimmy
Okay. 
“I hope your OC’s are shitty” Wut. This guy just screams Badass over here.


@metal ponies

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Aug 07, 2013 at 06:05PM EDT
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@Mike: Damn, Scratch looks tight in camo.


Let’s make it a trilogy, shall we?

Fun Fact: The opening line to this post is a reference to a promo cut by Shawn Michaels.

Aug 07, 2013 at 06:11PM EDT
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Platus wrote:

What, you mean the example of MS Paint art that I have posted above? I’m not allowed to insult that? You make Applejack sad.

You have made a dangerous enemy my friend. Now apologize or I’ll tell my mom on you. Owned.

@Jimmy I don’t associate with Deviantartists mainly because of how easily they get butthurt. They ask for constructive criticism (aka not calling them Faggots) and when you give them constructive criticism you get…….that. If it makes you feel better you made him quite butthurt. I’m proud of you because at least you didn’t insult the cover of KISS Destroyer.

Also “You goddamn Pedestrian” I think he was trying to say ‘Plebian’……….I don’t like this guy at all.

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Aug 07, 2013 at 06:27PM EDT
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Jimmy, Jimmy, listen, I have to tell you this, because it’s something you need to know – you are feeding a troll. Isn’t, like, rule number one of not being harassed on the internet “thou shalt not feed the trolls”? Because it’s a seriously bad idea. Just walk away man, you will never win this.

Aug 07, 2013 at 06:50PM EDT
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@Jimmy Lethal

Just throwing this out there, but I think you might have been trolled. Either that, or maybe I just have too much respect for the human race to even consider the possibility that someone might genuinely be that stupid.

Personally, I wouldn’t have gotten involved in that argument. People like that never seem worth the time to me. There’s no possible way for it to end well.

Also, no matter how many times the internet tells me that the word ‘faggot’ means something different here to what it means IRL, or even that it’s supposed to be a term of endearment, I still find it offensive. Even disregarding that, its use in any argument is bound to make your own points look weaker, so I’d advise against using it wherever possible.


[Edit: Yeah, what Platus said]

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Aug 07, 2013 at 06:52PM EDT
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Platus wrote:

Jimmy, Jimmy, listen, I have to tell you this, because it’s something you need to know – you are feeding a troll. Isn’t, like, rule number one of not being harassed on the internet “thou shalt not feed the trolls”? Because it’s a seriously bad idea. Just walk away man, you will never win this.

I don’t think a troll can possibly be that stupid. If anything, it’s making me laugh. Besides that, though, there’s something I have to tell you. I don’t date guys…

pulls a Rule 63 Ray Gun on Platus

…unless they’re chicks.

Aug 07, 2013 at 08:38PM EDT
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@Jimmy
Ehh, it’s not uncommon finding your usual user that claims he drew something from pony creator. If you’re up to it, just lurk around there. I used pony creator before I realized that I can somewhat draw cartoon ponies. Anyways, I think he is a troll, I’d just ignore whatever he posts and I say this from personal experience.

@The word Faggot.
I don’t find the word offensive anymore, it’s just so commonly used that I could care less if I’m called one.

Aug 07, 2013 at 08:57PM EDT
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@Jimmy
I have only this to say.

…if you learned something…

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Aug 07, 2013 at 09:03PM EDT

@Trolling and Related Insanity.

I Think I stopped caring what others thought round about the Time I started Passive Aggressively Flirting with my Raging Antagonists.

It’s like, they say some stupid little Hate filled thing, and I realize how absolutely ridiculous what they say is out loud, and that its actually kind of Cute the way they make hate filled outbursts over nothing.

And then I’m like Internally Monologuing “I wonder if that’s a Girl on the Other end, I find Agression Attractive in Girls.”

And then Suddenly I’m all up in thier face all “Daww, how cute, you actually think I give a Hoot. Want to go out some time? I’ve got reservations for a Candlelit Hate Date for Two.”

And Suddenly I have no idea what the Heck I’m saying and suddenly I feel like a Troll. A Legitimately Good One.

Its either that or I’m so Desperate for attention I’m willing to Flirt with anonymous Antagonists over the Internet. Which is Quite Sad in Comparison Really.

There is Legitimately No Acceptable Way to Link this Back to Ponies so have a Random Cute Pony Image.

…Daww…

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Aug 07, 2013 at 09:38PM EDT
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bioniclebrony? wrote:

@Jimmy
I have only this to say.

…if you learned something…

He did eventually calm down and ask me for help with his OC. I did, but I will forever keep the screencaps as memories of the lulz that went down. August 7th, 2013: a glorious day in Jimmy Lethal history.

Aug 07, 2013 at 09:41PM EDT
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Jimmy "Sniper" Lethal wrote:

I don’t think a troll can possibly be that stupid. If anything, it’s making me laugh. Besides that, though, there’s something I have to tell you. I don’t date guys…

pulls a Rule 63 Ray Gun on Platus

…unless they’re chicks.

R63 gun?

And here I am, not even mad.

(Also, one should never underestimate the stupidity of trolls. They are, after all, a cowardly and fucking braindead lot.)

Also, because your raygun reminded me of El Goonish Shive (aka best webcomic), have an EGS pony:

Aug 07, 2013 at 09:42PM EDT
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@Jimmy’s “PROUD MOMENT IN HIS HISTORY

Dude, just…oh god I don’t even know what to say…

Dude…

…Sigh, where do I begin with this.

Look, that guys a classic troll. I’m talking about the kind of people who don’t even know they are a troll. He’s not trolling per se, instead he’s just a troll because of who he is. He’s a misguided little kid who’s even more inexperienced with the internet than you are (Which is actually how trolls formed)

Be glad you’ve got more sense than he does. You’re already ahead of other kids your age. Keep it that way.

Yea, he’s an internet tough guy and a melodramatic poser who can’t handle his jimmies, but that’s all the more reason to give people like that guidance and not egg them on. If you can’t level with people like that, it’s better to not talk to them at all.


@Algernon

Also, no matter how many times the internet tells me that the word ‘faggot’ means something different here to what it means IRL, or even that it’s supposed to be a term of endearment, I still find it offensive.

This is true. My friends are quite internet savvy, but being gay: that word still stings them a bit. Even though they might be used to hearing it online, they don’t want to hear it IRL, ever. I said “fag” in their presence once and they stabbed me with their eyes

Context matters. 4chan is able to use the world liberally. But that’s just 4chan. On 4chan, the meaning of the word is drastically different but only 4channers understand this. South Park altered the meaning of the word so it has nothing to do with homosexuals anymore and I concur with this as I rarely ever see the word used in the context of gays anymore but again, only South Parks fans understand this.

Anywhere else, the word is still inappropriate and uttering it is usually a quick way to tell people that you are uncultured trash

Aug 07, 2013 at 11:56PM EDT
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so let’s talk pony memes

Have any of you seen the “Thanks M.A. Larson” meme? It’s starting to gain in popularity and may need an entry soon. Any thoughts?






and that’s just a few

Aug 08, 2013 at 12:46AM EDT
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I would consider it the brony version of Thanks Obama. I wouldn’t consider it meme worthy yet as the spread is insufficient. I only recall seeing it during the Twilicorn shitstorm.

Aug 08, 2013 at 12:50AM EDT
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Derpy Vazquez wrote:

so let’s talk pony memes

Have any of you seen the “Thanks M.A. Larson” meme? It’s starting to gain in popularity and may need an entry soon. Any thoughts?






and that’s just a few

It was all over the image board during the Twilicorn shitstorm. So yeah we’ve all seen it lol. It was an amusing little fad for a while. But then like the way of Gak Word that’ll get you banned from most Brony Streams it just vanished and only shows up due to nostalgic oldfags.

Aug 08, 2013 at 12:59AM EDT
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vintiezre wrote:

I would consider it the brony version of Thanks Obama. I wouldn’t consider it meme worthy yet as the spread is insufficient. I only recall seeing it during the Twilicorn shitstorm.

I’m going to have to second this – it’s clearly a spinoff of the Obama meme.

So the question is whether it’s worth it to add an MA Larson section to the Obama page, and for that to be the case then we would need to know whether the meme has any legs beyond the Twicorn brouhaha.

We ran into a similar problem back when the show was first getting huge. I remember when me, RandomMan, and a few other users would try to catalog every new meme or offshoot that the show created, but eventually just got too big. MLP is kind of a cannibal: it devours and absorbs every other kind of pop culture it touches, releasing it again as a pony version. The only way we could cover everything is if every page came with a label that said “also, there’s a pony version of this somewhere – just to let you know.” That’s why we really need to be careful about what sub-memes we catalog, and why we might have to reject MLP submemes that might normally appear good enough for a page. The subculture is simply too big, and would saturate the site if we let it.

Sorry man.

Aug 08, 2013 at 01:04AM EDT
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chowzburgerz wrote:

Heavy Metal and Ponies. Nothing can beat Pantera.

Personally when it comes to metal my favorite happens to be Judas Priest. Obviously not a lot of bronies think the same way (Probably because they’re like “No, we can’t like that band. The lead singer is gay! We have to prove we’re manly!”) as I can’t find too many parody album covers and can only find Painkiller album parodies and I don’t feel like posting Painkiller album parodies right now so instead I found this.

That was a great concert……I wonder if this guy planned this picture that day or was just like “Hey, I’ve got my lucky Fluttershy toy with me, don’t see any better reason to whip her out.”

@Platus and THAT’S why the MLP page on KYM has the most content.

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Aug 08, 2013 at 01:15AM EDT
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@Kewln00b

The lead singer of Judas Priest is gay? I did not know that. Perhaps I should give them a listen.

And yes, one of the solutions we came up with is to just have a really robust main entry that could cover whatever happened in the future. That’s why, for example, we have a section on Pony Tumblrs (which is the part I actually wrote) instead of a page. The alternative would be for us to just be constantly updating the site with pony stuff, which would be impractical and would piss off a hell of a lot of people (especially back then – you don’t want to know some of the epic shitstorms that we had to go through before hitting on a pony equilibrium).

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Aug 08, 2013 at 01:27AM EDT
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Platus wrote:

@Kewln00b

The lead singer of Judas Priest is gay? I did not know that. Perhaps I should give them a listen.

And yes, one of the solutions we came up with is to just have a really robust main entry that could cover whatever happened in the future. That’s why, for example, we have a section on Pony Tumblrs (which is the part I actually wrote) instead of a page. The alternative would be for us to just be constantly updating the site with pony stuff, which would be impractical and would piss off a hell of a lot of people (especially back then – you don’t want to know some of the epic shitstorms that we had to go through before hitting on a pony equilibrium).

Yep, first openly gay heavy metal musician. Give them a listen, I drove 7 hours to go see these guys back in 2011, totally worth it. Here, watch this video, I’m actually in it. I’m the guy with the shaved head in the lower right corner, yes you may insult my enthusiasm, I had spent the last 7 hours driving to the concert in a car with no heater.

Back to the pony, how many other pages on KYM have a table of contents? There has to be at least ONE other page right? Right? There isn’t is there? Well shit.

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Aug 08, 2013 at 01:38AM EDT
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Kewln00b? wrote:

Yep, first openly gay heavy metal musician. Give them a listen, I drove 7 hours to go see these guys back in 2011, totally worth it. Here, watch this video, I’m actually in it. I’m the guy with the shaved head in the lower right corner, yes you may insult my enthusiasm, I had spent the last 7 hours driving to the concert in a car with no heater.

Back to the pony, how many other pages on KYM have a table of contents? There has to be at least ONE other page right? Right? There isn’t is there? Well shit.

Off the top of my head, I know Slender Man has a table of contents, and a similarly long list of editors.

Interesting bit of history: the first pony general thread spent several months as a pretty dormant place, without much activity. At the time, almost all of the discussion was conducted in the comments section of the entry, which meant that the page was always on the trending bar. At the time there was also no “top image galleries” list on the front page, so if you wanted to get your pony fix off KYM you had to go to the page and scroll all the way down. People got so frustrated about the site staying on the trending bar all the time that a mod who shall remain nameless actually blocked image uploads and comments, rendering the page totally dormant for several hours. The compromise that was reached was that the bronies would migrate to the general thread and be basically left alone, while the page comments would be used sparingly, and not for long-winded discussions.

Sadly, I haven’t got much to say about the behind-the-scenes stuff during this period – I was only a regular user at the time. But the presence of the bronies seemed (to me at the time, anyway) to have benefited the site in the long run – by creating a contingent of users who were constantly posting and talking, the fandom created a reason for the site to become more sophisticated, and by spinning off sub-memes so quickly it pressured the mods to come up with better protocols for how to deal with them. Heck, when they created page categories MLP was the first page to be named a “subculture,” a category that I have a hunch was created just to deal with it.

So yah, the bronies are actually a pretty huge part of the site’s history.

Aug 08, 2013 at 01:54AM EDT
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Platus wrote:

I’m going to have to second this – it’s clearly a spinoff of the Obama meme.

So the question is whether it’s worth it to add an MA Larson section to the Obama page, and for that to be the case then we would need to know whether the meme has any legs beyond the Twicorn brouhaha.

We ran into a similar problem back when the show was first getting huge. I remember when me, RandomMan, and a few other users would try to catalog every new meme or offshoot that the show created, but eventually just got too big. MLP is kind of a cannibal: it devours and absorbs every other kind of pop culture it touches, releasing it again as a pony version. The only way we could cover everything is if every page came with a label that said “also, there’s a pony version of this somewhere – just to let you know.” That’s why we really need to be careful about what sub-memes we catalog, and why we might have to reject MLP submemes that might normally appear good enough for a page. The subculture is simply too big, and would saturate the site if we let it.

Sorry man.

Well yeah it’s a spinoff of thanks Obama but it would be out of place as a mention there. If anything a link to thanks Obama page.

I was one of the users you are talking about. My first ever entry was Tom Dan. I had no help from anyone writing it. No mods offered any help. I got shit comments from just about every brony and non brony. And in the end it was deadpooled and yet I still to this day see new Tom macros. If a mod doesn’t approve or help out then most likely any new pony meme will be deadpooled. I thought this was a site that studied and cataloged memes, not bowing down to subculture opinions.

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@Metal
Not my favorite genre (though far from my least favorite) so I don’t have much knowledge of albums, but I’ll post this one simply because it has a particularly ‘MLP’ level of pun to it:

@Kewl
Since when were bronies overly concerned about being ‘manly,’ especially to the point of hating gays?
Just about any machismo I’ve come across in this fandom is intended to be at least partially tongue-in-cheek since we realize that guys loving rainbow ponies is such a stereotypically un-manly thing to see.
But almost no one takes that stuff seriously.
(Hi, Poe’s Law!)

I vaguely remember hearing that the front-man for Judas Priest was gay, but I guess I never registered that as such an outlandish thing.
Despite their outward appearance sometimes, I’ve noticed that a lot of metalheads tend to be pretty cool and levelheaded.
(Ever heard Marilyn Manson have a serious discussion? I don’t want to say that he’s ‘surprisingly’ articulate, but it certainly wasn’t what i was expecting from his ‘image.’)
I heard the fact about Judas Priest in passing one time, no one seemed to care much, life went on.
Pretty mush how I wish gays were treated by the rest of society.
They’re there, they’re gay, but they are also just people doing their thing and they are (and should be) known more for their actual accomplishments and talents than what gender of people they like to see naked.

See, bronies do like Priest!


@’Fag’
I guess that leads nicely into this topic.
I’m really pretty mixed about stuff like this.
In my opinion, no word is inherently offensive because that comes more from intent than specific word choice.
Two close friends joking around can use all kinds of profanity with no ill intent (“I love you, ya bastard!”) but when that language is thrown out with the intent to offend or insult, trying to justify it as ‘taking the word back’ just doesn’t make sense.
In my eyes, the word has only lost power in some very specific communities that, while seemingly large on the internet, don’t really represent much of the outside world at large.
In any case, talking like that in a public place when you know that the word is, at best, controversial just reeks of tactlessness and a lack of consideration for others.

(BSoD, I disagree that ‘fag’ is no longer used as an anti-gay slur. Just look at any ‘God Hates Fags’ sign that pops up at colleges around the country whenever people with more Bibles than brain cells decide to go on a field trip. They turned up at least once a month back when I was going to classes and always generated a large, angry crowd.)


@Larson

The meme has pretty much eaten itself at this point!

(I agree that it isn’t really big enough to justify an entry though. Maybe a listing as a sub-meme somewhere on one of the pony pages, but it’s really more of a ‘running gag’ than a meme and it has mostly died down from it’s original inception during Twilicorn-time.)

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@DP

BSoD, I disagree that ‘fag’ is no longer used as an anti-gay slur.

Didn’t say it wasn’t. I quite agree with you. I was talking about in the context of the internet. Also the keyword I used was ‘rarely’ not ‘never.’ 95% of the time I see somebody type that word online, it’s not being used towards gays but that’s not to say it doesn’t happen, hence why the LGBT community is still very adverse to it and doesn’t buy the whole “lost all meaning via overuse” angle.

I only know two people IRL who utter that word (also IRL). One is my young teenage cousin who hasn’t learned tact yet and uses it to describe things he doesn’t like. He doesn’t use it to describe gays though. The other is my crazy homophobic apocalyptic zealot uncle who definitely uses it to describe gays

So while I hardly ever see the word used in its infamous context, I do know it gets thrown around as a proper slur.

But I predict that in time, the LGBT community will claim authority over the term. Sort of like how the black community claimed authority over ‘nigger’. It’s their word now. Nobody says it out loud but them. I think ‘fag’ will befall that same fate, but for gays. Already I know a lot of guys who call themselves a fag and use it with pride, because that’s how they’ve come to defeat it’s offensive implications: by claiming it for themselves. (Not my friends though, they still hate the word)

Not my favorite genre (though far from my least favorite) so I don’t have much knowledge of albums

It’s not necessarily mine either. I’m about as lost in that discussion as you are. I’ll just wait until we start discussing ponified Daft Punk again.

(Ever heard Marilyn Manson have a serious discussion? I don’t want to say that he’s ‘surprisingly’ articulate, but it certainly wasn’t what i was expecting from his ‘image.’)

Better yet, you should see what he used to look like before he decided to be Marylin Manson


@Vasqueeze (Yes you are Vasqueeze now, because that’s hilarious)

My first ever entry was Tom Dan. I had no help from anyone writing it. No mods offered any help. I got shit comments from just about every brony and non brony. And in the end it was deadpooled and yet I still to this day see new Tom macros. If a mod doesn’t approve or help out then most likely any new pony meme will be deadpooled. I thought this was a site that studied and cataloged memes, not bowing down to subculture opinions.

To be fair, we also have tonnes of macro’s and mashups coming in for Fluttershy too, and Rarity, and Dash, and Applebloom, and Lyra…all to this very date

If we count Tom Dan as a meme for all the spinoffs that the fandom makes of him, we’d have to do the same for all the other characters for all the spinoffs the fandom makes of them, no? We don’t do that because we know that all these characters are only popular because they are part of a greater meme, that is MLP itself. They arent spreading memetically by themselves. They only spread when MLP spreads so one might say that the development of Tom Dan as a meme, only shows development of MLP as a meme.

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@DeviantART bundle of sticks
I always wonder how those people act in real life, cause I see college completely crippling them if they act anywhere close to that.

In a slightly related note, DeviantART sucks for fanfics. Not only is it an absolute pain to post stories there (I gotta pdf everything cuase I’m not touching the HTML), but nobody reads anything.

@Derpy Vazquez
>Not including Fimfiction
>Not including the Pony Fiction Archive

Do you even fanfics?

@Faggot terminology

Burke 1
Joshua Burke
M. Burlingame
English 226
11 March 2013

Definitions

For as long as we’ve had spoken language, insults and slurs have existed. Many slurs have been lost to the annals of time. Language is constantly changing and evolving and so it’s not surprising that ancient or even medieval words have lost their meaning or simply cannot be fully understood due to a lack of proper background and context. Two slurs, tracing their origins to the 1600s, have become firmly embedded in our minds and culture. The words faggot and nigger.
They are used derogatorily to refer to homosexuals and black people respectively. With a history of fear, anger, and hate, it’s no wonder that these words are shunned and cast out of modern language to wallow in the dark depths of the hatred and anger that they’ve been raised in. A change is needed. If we’re ever going to change that hatred and anger, we must start with changing the very words that are used to express it.
In order to change their meaning, we must first look at their current meaning. The Oxford English Dictionary provides an excellent and concise definition of “faggot”, which is simply “North American informal, derogatory a male homosexual”(“faggot”). Similarly, its definition for “nigger” is equally straight and to the point, stating “offensive a contemptuous term for a black person” (“nigger”).

In order to remove these words from their dark past, we must redefine what they mean. This is a slow and arduous process, but it’s already begun for both words. As Randall Kennedy states in his book Nigger: The Strange Career of a Troublesome Word, as early as the days of slavery in the 1800’s, many blacks were using the word nigger in a joking sense to lessen the impact of the word’s racial sting. As the years ticked by, everything from Jim Crow laws to the disenfranchisement of blacks was parodied using the word (28). Today, many blacks continue to use nigger as a proper noun to describe each other--a sort of term of endearment.
Likewise, faggot has undergone a transformation in recent years. As the Urban Dictionary is quick to note, the word now means “an extremely annoying or inconsiderate person”(“Fag.”). The internet has allowed the word to take on common usage as a mild insult, and in the twisted world of 4chan, an image board known for its vulgarity, it is even used in a somewhat endearing usage with most nouns receiving a “-fag” suffix to describe what someone does (i.e. a writer would be a “writefag”, an artist a “drawfag”).
We now have their new meanings. Nigger, instead of its racist origins, is now a general proper noun no worse than “African American” or “black”. Faggot has disregarded its usage with referring to homosexuals and now is merely an insult traded over the internet during those wonderfully productive conversations we have. Not everyone is buying these new meanings, however.
Some would argue that those currently vile words can never be changed. They’ve been too culturally identified to mean anything other than those horrible things. It would simply be impossible to remove the stain of history from them. The only solution is to bury the word--make it a taboo. Never use it and have the mere thought strike fear into any decent and upstanding person.

Indeed, there are many words that have suffered a fate due to their history. No longer does one think of genetic research and study to improve humanity when the word “eugenics” is spoken but the horrors that both Nazi Germany and our very own country did to the mentally ill or criminal. Other words like “propaganda”, which simply means “the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person”; or “holocaust”, “a sacrifice consumed by fire”, have also been sullied by their historical context. What, exactly, makes these words different from nigger or faggot?
The biggest is their lack of personal context. “Holocaust” isn’t a slur thrown at a homosexual or black person in hatred or fear. That personal, and painful, connection not only makes them far more poignant, but it also adds an emotional and passionate undertone to the word. No longer can a sterile, dictionary definition accurately describe the word. Not when so many people can recount it being screamed, or whispered to them. This, those arguers say, is all the more reason to banish these words from the English language.
That’s the exact opposite of what needs to be done, though. The longer these words are restricted to their offensive definitions, the longer those definitions will be reinforced and the words continued to have their tragic meanings. The cultural stigma creates a paradox: we want these words to lose their sting, but by “burying” them, by trying to destroy or remove the words, all we do is reinforce the very sting we’re trying to get rid of. This stigma has been reinforced and remains a major obstacle in finally removing that sting.
Thanks to those reinforcements, resistance toward changing the meaning of “faggot” is still very strong. Ironically, its seemingly strongest with the very group that one would think would happiest with faggot’s new meaning--the homosexuals. No matter the context or usage, many within the homosexual community take great offense to the word regardless of whether the word’s being used against them or a random internet user as a mild insult no worse than “idiot”. Look no further than GLAAD’s commentary on the South Park episode “The F Word”, an episode that was instrumental in providing faggot’s redefinition. They state:
“South Park was right on one point: all too commonly, more and more people are using the F-word as a seemingly benign insult, unaware or unconcerned about the word’s anti-gay meaning. However, the spread of the word in this manner does not make it okay to use. Mickey Rourke and Kansas City Chiefs running back Larry Johnson recently learned this lesson as GLAAD reiterated the need for all uses of this slur to end.” (Rosales, “South Park Tries and Fails to Redefine ‘The F-Word’”)
The irony of the situation, that the very group that the word’s vulgar definition targets are the ones most protective of that definition cannot be overstated.
Opposition to nigger is still very strong as well. While the word is frequently used within the black community, the heavy stigma against non-blacks using the word remains. A long road ahead remains for both words. Signs are there, though, that their meanings are slowly changing. It takes time for the English language to change, but change is happening.
As long as we continue to stigmatize these words and grasp onto their vulgar and offensive meanings, they’ll remain just as offensive as ever. The culture that nigger and faggot have amassed only serves to reinforce them and make them just as bad today as they were when they were first used as hateful dialogue. Mel Brooks, a famous Jewish producer and writer, once said “…by using the medium of comedy, we can try to rob Hitler of his posthumous power and myths.” It’s time that we robbed words like nigger and faggot of their hate-filled power and myth, by redefining what they mean.








Works Cited
“Fag.” Urban Dictionary. N.p., Mar.-Apr. 2005. Web. 04 Apr. 2013.
“Faggot.” Definition of in Oxford Dictionaries (British & World English). Oxford Dictionary, 01 Jan. 2013. Web. 04 Apr. 2013.
Kennedy, Randall. Nigger: The Strange Career of a Troublesome Word. New York: Pantheon, 2002. Print.
“Nigger.” Definition of in Oxford Dictionaries (British & World English). Oxford Dictionary, 01 Jan. 2013. Web. 04 Apr. 2013.
Rosales, Jonathan. “South Park Tries and Fails to Redefine ‘The F-Word’” GLAAD: Leading the Conversation for LGBT Equality. GLAAD, 5 Nov. 2009. Web. 04 Apr. 2013.

>yfw I use 4chan in a college essay and get an “A”

EDIT: Damn, that’s a wall of text. I’m too lazy to sort through it.

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Kewln00b wrote:

Personally when it comes to metal my favorite happens to be Judas Priest. Obviously not a lot of bronies think the same way (Probably because they’re like “No, we can’t like that band. The lead singer is gay! We have to prove we’re manly!”) as I can’t find too many parody album covers and can only find Painkiller album parodies and I don’t feel like posting Painkiller album parodies right now so instead I found this.


I’ve actually found quite a few ponified Priest albums other than Painkiller through a quick Google Image search:


Also, any brony who claims that they can’t like Judas Priest because they need to be perceived as “manly” probably shouldn’t have become a brony in the first place. Hell, I watch the show and I like to listen to this band called Limp Wrist. They’re a Queercore (LGBT punk) band. I think I’m past the point of caring about being perceived as “gay” or “unmanly.”

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Aug 08, 2013 at 08:15AM EDT
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Judas Priest is awesome! I love heavy metal and I could care less if the vocalist is gay or not.

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Same as Vintiezre, you shouldn’t stop liking a band because of a member’s sexual orientation.


@Level4outbreak
I’m listening to their ‘official discography’ album, that band is awesome.

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Aug 08, 2013 at 08:58AM EDT
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General Grievous wrote:


>tfw Jazz and Swing will never be popular on the fandom
and now for something NSFW

I made this once

mm…I really should make a better recording of that. Was one of my better pieces of work.

@Fag discussion

Eh, I really dislike people who try to control words, I think it’s some subversive bullshit. I dislike how the black and LGBT communities have turned nigger and faggot respectively into forbidden talismans with magic powers as opposed to just mouth sounds people use to communicate. The problem isn’t the word, it’s really the artificial groupings that those words have been used to corral people into and which those same people now parade about stupidly and proudly as opposed to joining the larger community to which they have a right. Respect people for people’s sake, not because they claim to be part of the flock of this constructed cultural and metaphysical icon they’ve made of their gayness. Fuck gay rights. I believe in human rights.

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DeadParrot222 wrote:

@Metal
Not my favorite genre (though far from my least favorite) so I don’t have much knowledge of albums, but I’ll post this one simply because it has a particularly ‘MLP’ level of pun to it:

@Kewl
Since when were bronies overly concerned about being ‘manly,’ especially to the point of hating gays?
Just about any machismo I’ve come across in this fandom is intended to be at least partially tongue-in-cheek since we realize that guys loving rainbow ponies is such a stereotypically un-manly thing to see.
But almost no one takes that stuff seriously.
(Hi, Poe’s Law!)

I vaguely remember hearing that the front-man for Judas Priest was gay, but I guess I never registered that as such an outlandish thing.
Despite their outward appearance sometimes, I’ve noticed that a lot of metalheads tend to be pretty cool and levelheaded.
(Ever heard Marilyn Manson have a serious discussion? I don’t want to say that he’s ‘surprisingly’ articulate, but it certainly wasn’t what i was expecting from his ‘image.’)
I heard the fact about Judas Priest in passing one time, no one seemed to care much, life went on.
Pretty mush how I wish gays were treated by the rest of society.
They’re there, they’re gay, but they are also just people doing their thing and they are (and should be) known more for their actual accomplishments and talents than what gender of people they like to see naked.

See, bronies do like Priest!


@’Fag’
I guess that leads nicely into this topic.
I’m really pretty mixed about stuff like this.
In my opinion, no word is inherently offensive because that comes more from intent than specific word choice.
Two close friends joking around can use all kinds of profanity with no ill intent (“I love you, ya bastard!”) but when that language is thrown out with the intent to offend or insult, trying to justify it as ‘taking the word back’ just doesn’t make sense.
In my eyes, the word has only lost power in some very specific communities that, while seemingly large on the internet, don’t really represent much of the outside world at large.
In any case, talking like that in a public place when you know that the word is, at best, controversial just reeks of tactlessness and a lack of consideration for others.

(BSoD, I disagree that ‘fag’ is no longer used as an anti-gay slur. Just look at any ‘God Hates Fags’ sign that pops up at colleges around the country whenever people with more Bibles than brain cells decide to go on a field trip. They turned up at least once a month back when I was going to classes and always generated a large, angry crowd.)


@Larson

The meme has pretty much eaten itself at this point!

(I agree that it isn’t really big enough to justify an entry though. Maybe a listing as a sub-meme somewhere on one of the pony pages, but it’s really more of a ‘running gag’ than a meme and it has mostly died down from it’s original inception during Twilicorn-time.)

I just know from experience that some of the more insecure bronies (AKA the ones that feed the goddamn trolls on Youtube all the time) like a few of my friends will go out of their way to make themselves look manlier to trolls so they can’t troll them or whatever (Like my friend who does nothing but favorite Action movie trailers and Killcounts from said Action movies). At least that’s more like how it was when Bronies were still starting off and Bronycon just had a few hundred people there. I mean now that every single fucking filthy casual is a brony now I guess said people would be normal (haven’t talked to them since they said they wouldn’t listen to Judas Priest since the lead singer is gay) always thought how it was funny that they’d hate gays then constantly use a rage face inspired by this man right here.

Long story short: Bronies are weird.

@Deadparrot Lol, I said I didn’t want to put up a Painkiller Parody and you ended up doing it with that final picture.

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@Fifths

I’d prefer it myself if people would stop focusing on the word and instead focus about how it’s used. The usage and intent behind the word is what carries the offense while ‘fag’ itself should just be a 3 letter word with ambiguous meaning like everything else. But unfortunately (for the word), its simpler to pay attention to the word itself rather than who is saying it. So the word gets plastered with the same reputation as those known to say it.

Another inconvenience you can thank the WBC for accomplishing

There’s a problem with making a word so infamous that every time you see it, it hurts: It’s a word, words are everywhere. You can’t really get away from it.

So think of controlling a word as a coping mechanism for those constantly offended by it. This word pains you to see used in any context but it’s everywhere you go. What do you do? Take control of it. Then you have the power to stop it from affecting you.

I suppose you could say that if you want a certain entry in the english dictionary to stop pissing you off…you could just…realise it’s just a word and let it go. But that’s just what straight guys say. In reality it’s not that simple. I’ll let someone gayer than myself explain that.


Hey guys, listen up. Any chance we can move all this fag discussion out of the pony thread? I’m really curious about this discussion topic and I think it deserves its own thread at this point. If you have any more comments on the word ‘fag’ please start a new thread about it and take it there. Thanks! Here’s Lyra with a hat and tie

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