We have a featured thread for discussing the Syrian conflict. It might be better to move the current discussions there.
Wut. Why Saudi Arabia? Wouldn’t that just piss off most of the Muslim word with Mecca being there and all, not to mention rustling NATO and the UN’s jimmies (hell, even China). It’s like Russia wants a Third World War.
I doubt Putin’s doing any more than rattling his saber, especially with NATO controlling two-thirds of europe and Chechnya itching for an excuse to rally the crazy Muslims.
Saudi’s been trying to get rid of Assad since the war started, and they’ve been getting sick of Russia’s attempts to prevent any sort of international intervention. They tried offering the Russians some sort of oil deal if they’d back away from the subject, but also threatened to coordinate Chechen terror attacks on the Winter Olympics if they didn’t. I think the threat to attack Saudi Arabia is just a retaliation to that. I doubt they’d actually go through with it. Russia’s been getting a shitload of bad press from the West recently (IMO, for good reason), and an all-out invasion of one of the biggest oil exporters on Earth would likely result in them losing any remaining support. It’s ridiculous how they’ve been saying that an intervention in Syria would be a ‘grave violation of international law’, and yet they think that making such threats is completely acceptable behaviour.
US and UK mobilize navies to prepare strikes on Syria.
The French are also offering to support. Ever since the most recent chemical attacks, they’ve seemed a lot more vocal than the US and UK. For them, the question was “when should we begin?” rather than “should we really be getting involved here?”. I’m not sure if they’re contributing any naval assets, but considering they can just hitch a ride on allied carriers it’s not like they need to.
There’s also been some pressure on Germany to get involved, but it’s unclear if anything will come of it.
Iraq threatens to attack Isreal if the US attacks Syria
I couldn’t find anything about Iraq making threats. Both Iran and Assad’s regime have threatened to attack Israel if any intervention occurs, and if that were to happen Iraq would likely get involved just because they’re bestest buds with Iran. Apparently something like this happened in the first Gulf War, where Iraq launched missiles at Israel in an attempt to draw them into the conflict. Considering how militarily advanced Israel is compared to its neighbours, I can’t imagine how any of them could think this was a good idea. Recall the recent Israeli bombing runs against Hezbollah – when Israel wants to get shit done, it gets shit done. Plus they’ll get full NATO support if things go seriously downhill. It’s almost like Iran wants this war to get messier than it already is.
Jolly Jew wrote:
i don’t support any side, both are extremist islamists that hates us with extreme passion but the murder of thousands of innocent elderly women and children is sickening
I’m pretty sure that neither side consists of Muslim extremists, with the exception of a few relatively small factions who joined in well after the war was underway. Also pretty sure that neither of them hate us all that much. Assad probably hates us a lot, though not for religious reasons, and any rebel leaders are probably sick of watching us bicker with Russia while finding any excuse to keep out of it, but the average soldier from either side really won’t give a damn about us.
Personally, I think we should have gotten involved about a year ago, if not earlier. There are now an estimated 100,000 dead, 200,000 wounded, and several million displaced. I can’t believe that every country with the power to prevent this just sat and watched it happen, and only now that people are being killed with chemical weapons have we decided that they’re going too far. Really, is there that much difference between gunning down civilians and gassing them? Why did we draw the line at ‘mass murder with weapon X’ rather than drawing it at ‘mass murder’?
Unfortunately, I can’t see a way for this to end well for anybody. Our current plan is to coordinate surgical airstrikes and cruise missile strikes, but not to offer any further support. Back when the rebels were on the advance, maybe that would have been enough to tip the scales sufficiently in their favour, but now I doubt it will be enough. Putting our soldiers in harm’s way and risking Iraq 2.0 doesn’t sound like a great plan either, and there’s very little support for such actions amongst the general public.