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So Japan is having a nation crisis involving sex. NSFW for obvious reasons.

Last posted Oct 24, 2013 at 05:33PM EDT. Added Oct 20, 2013 at 08:34PM EDT
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A sex councilor’s point of view on Japan’s low birth rates.

a NSFW Vice Documentary on the same subject, you will have to be 18+ to click this link

This is an important issue in the world. If people stop having kids, who is gonna mow our lawns when we grow old and elderly? That seems pretty trivial now, but what about all the other forms of work? Is Japan representing the world of tomorrow? Will the rest of the world follow this?

How will this affect the culture of Japan and the culture of the internet since it has a major influence? I can’t say for certain myself. This country dividing something another country considers a healthy relationship into different parts, and commercializing it. Is this right or wrong?

Explain your opinions on this matter.

Editted: over 9000 times. Will I ever learn how to grammar?

Last edited Oct 20, 2013 at 08:44PM EDT
Oct 20, 2013 at 08:34PM EDT

Birthrates are declining in most developed nations, due to increased availability of contraception. Honestly, it’s probably good thing that they are. The planet is already overpopulated.

Oct 20, 2013 at 08:51PM EDT
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You linked this in the irc the other night- very interesting and frankly scary to me.

This is a known issue in Japan, and there’s a surprising lack of action against it. Mona told me about a term a while ago called Herbivore Men who are, as the name implies, against carnal relationships and usually relationships as a whole.

While laughable at first, it sort of makes sense after watching that video. There is basically anything you would ever need emotionally/physically at a low, low rate in a town near you; a legal and emotionally unattached encounter with the opposite sex.

Another problem is the non-human outlets such as sex toys, eroge, and porn galore. It’s simply too easy to get by without carnal relationships that it really comes as no surprise because damn are real relationships hard. Plus, with the NEET/otaku population at the million mark, there’s a sense of it being natural because hey- a million other men and woman are doing it.

Now that I’ve played the devil’s advocate, I’d just like to state for the record that I found it as disturbing as Ryan did when that chick said she wants people who are happy couples to die because that’s not a rare sentiment. This is not a natural way of life and the implications are quite possibly a death sentence for good ol’ Nippon if it continues to get further out of hand. Even so, I do understand where they’re coming from and I hope others do too. This is a rather serious problem, after all.

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I do agree with ops, but it’s not the reason WHY babies aren’t being made that I see a problem in, it’s more or less the societal problem that people don’t want to make babies or even date someone.

Last edited Oct 20, 2013 at 08:56PM EDT
Oct 20, 2013 at 08:54PM EDT
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opspe wrote:

Birthrates are declining in most developed nations, due to increased availability of contraception. Honestly, it’s probably good thing that they are. The planet is already overpopulated.

That might be true, but you have to remember the ratio of old people and young people. If you only have 1 young person per 20 people, it’s gonna have some serious effects. Let’s say all the old people can’t work in 40 years. That 1/20 is not gonna be able to fill the duties of their previous generation, while the government is gonna be seriously weighed down.

Oct 20, 2013 at 09:02PM EDT

I thought the all the suicides problems that where going on in Japan was bad enough but this is fucking ( pun not intended) depressing. What isn’t helping matters is the fact that the problem is stemming for a cultural source.

If you don’t believe me on that check the article again as I kept reading it I came to the conclusion that a combination social pressure to conform to traditional roles, a long standing gender inequality at workplaces, and with the recession going around it’s more advantageous to be single then married.

And like Opspe said while this is a problem the fact that it is somewhat helping out on the overpopulation problem that we’re also experiencing as well. So in the end mankind as two poisons to pick from, one has a world where there aren’t enough people to fill in jobs while on the other end of the spectrum there’s perpetual wars caused by shortage of space, food, water, and resources.

Oct 20, 2013 at 11:14PM EDT
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Another issue I think that is related to it is the fact that the life expectancy there is the highest in the world. The average for men is 79 and women is 86. Because of this and the group based culture; a lot more time has to be spent taking care of elderly, and some girls just don’t get married in time to have a kid.

A bit of “Immortal Logic”, the longer a type of person lives, the less of them there are.

Japan is ultra crowded anyways, and this might just be a sign that they have reached max population capacity, but… Yeah, this is scarey knowing that something like this could happen to pretty much every first world country.

Oct 20, 2013 at 11:38PM EDT
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opspe wrote:

Birthrates are declining in most developed nations, due to increased availability of contraception. Honestly, it’s probably good thing that they are. The planet is already overpopulated.

I was going to say something like that.

Oct 22, 2013 at 01:00AM EDT
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So they initiated the 1000-year plan. Population decline is a painful problem. Very painful. However, in the long term, every nation has to go through this process in order to avoid catastrophic population decline due to lack of resources. It’s like why economic growth cannot last forever. So pick our poison.

Oct 24, 2013 at 12:03PM EDT
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In Europa happens the same. For example, exists towns that they aren’t have a new baby in a decade.

IMHO, i blame the economy, my parents aren’t rich, however they managed to own a big house without any debts. Right now, i earn more than my parents, however i must live in a small (small in comparison with my parent’s house) department. I wish i can buy a house, however, for a big city it is really hard, unless i decide to move outside of the city but commuting +1 hour every day.

Oct 24, 2013 at 03:56PM EDT
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The question is, can the causes of population decline be replicated in countries where overpopulation is a serious issue?

Oct 24, 2013 at 05:33PM EDT
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