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KYM Mafia 8:TF2 Edition

Last posted Apr 15, 2012 at 11:32PM EDT. Added Mar 31, 2012 at 11:44PM EDT
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Algernon wrote:

Random wrote:

Pyro and Algernon, what the f*ck is up with those lists. The names are completely off.

>“Names completely off”
>Almost exactly the same as your list

I had Pyro in the wrong place because he ninja’d me with a vote switch. I pointed this out in an edit and stated the new scores, but didn’t change my original tally to reflect that (in hindsight, I probably should have).

I have Iced in the ‘wrong’ place because I have no idea who he’s actually voting for. The last thing he said was that he would ‘probably vote for himself’, so I counted that as his vote. You chose to ignore that and go for his previous vote (which is totally fine, since he didn’t make himself clear).

Ok, “completely off” might have been a bit of overreacting. Yeah, Iced Hot was unclear with his vote. However, he never stated that he actually switched votes. My example used an old list from BSoD btw.

So we just looked at it differently. Nonetheless, to me it was an incorrect list.

Last edited Apr 04, 2012 at 03:15PM EDT
Apr 04, 2012 at 03:14PM EDT
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Nightfury Treann wrote:

i have already took out my vote against 404

What are you trying to say?

Apr 04, 2012 at 05:12PM EDT
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Man, I’m gonna have a nice list of suspect after this phase.


As it seems all lists were wrong, nightfury’s vote was never there.

Switching votes to Iced Hot

Votes updated:

  • 404 : 5 votes (Algernon, madcat, Nikolaki8, seal clubba, Dr. Meme)
  • Iced Hot : 6 votes (CitationNeeded, Verbose, 404, EP73, Pyro, RandomMan)
  • Dr. Meme : 6 votes (Iced Hot, slappy, Fudge Gruck, BSOD, Max, Bob)
  • Non-Voters : 3 players (Bruelock, Jeffery, Nightfury)

Bruelock isn’t going to vote, Jeffery can’t be trusted to vote, Nightfury retracted his vote a while ago.

If this continues, we might be forced to have a voter from Iced and Dr. Meme retract theirs. That way we keep a 3 way tie with 5 votes each. Or one of the non-voters votes now and we can aim for 6.


@Madcat

That we were completely off all the time. There never was a tie (well, there probably was at certain points), his vote shouldn’t have been there.

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Apr 04, 2012 at 05:18PM EDT
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Falcon, how much time do we have in this round? I’ll retract my vote if we’re getting close to the end of this Phase. Alternatively, if Random is still suspicious of me, then someone else can retract theirs.

Apr 04, 2012 at 06:42PM EDT
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Verbose wrote:

Falcon, how much time do we have in this round? I’ll retract my vote if we’re getting close to the end of this Phase. Alternatively, if Random is still suspicious of me, then someone else can retract theirs.

He posted above with his estimated time until phase end.

Apr 04, 2012 at 06:51PM EDT
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Ill just remain un-voted since there is already a tie. Ill try to check back later to see if you need another vote.

Apr 04, 2012 at 07:01PM EDT
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How did I make this confusing? Am I not getting something blatantly obvious…?
Augh, fine, whoever I voted for earlier I’m switching to 404 for final.
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Apr 04, 2012 at 07:26PM EDT
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This is why we lose. Idiots can’t read posts. Maybe we can work something out when the people who don’t know how to read are purged.

Edit: If you pull your vote, I’ll pull mine, RandomMan.

Last edited Apr 04, 2012 at 08:13PM EDT
Apr 04, 2012 at 08:12PM EDT
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you know…

Considering how everyone’s in a commotion over attempting to make a balance, I shall propose this:

If someone in the I.H.S category retracts their vote, then I will pull my vote for Dr. Meme, thus leaving 5 votes in all four sections (404, I.H.S, Dr, Non), if random’s charts are accurate

wait a minute… actually, since it appears I.H.S has shifted his vote, I will need to see an updated list before i can request further action

Last edited Apr 04, 2012 at 08:35PM EDT
Apr 04, 2012 at 08:34PM EDT
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@Algernon

Ice did not vote for himself! Look again:

I random ‘ed and got Pyro. I’m trying to keep the tie then, ok.
(probably gonna vote for me now though)

Here he actually voted for Pyro then implied that Pyro would likely vote for him in responce

But now Ice is voting for 404, so it doesn’t matter

When I counted the votes last, I missed this vote because Ice (as usual) did not make it clear that we was even voting


@EVERYONE

You see people, this is why you must make your vote !!!ABSOLUTELY CLEAR!!!!

When you vote, please follow this format:

I vote for X

I change my vote to X

I retract my vote from X

Or else this crap happens.


404 : 6 votes (Algernon, madcat, Nikolaki8, seal clubba, Dr. Meme, Iced Hot)
Iced Hot : 6 votes (CitationNeeded, Verbose, 404, EP73, Pyro, RandomMan)
Dr. Meme : 5 votes (slappy, Fudge Gruck, BSOD, Max, Bob)
Non-Voters : 3 players (Bruelock, Jeffery, Nightfury)

One person vote for Meme. Everyone else: hold your horses.

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Apr 04, 2012 at 08:43PM EDT
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When did people get the idea I voted for myself? I randomly voted Dr. Meme, then I was told to vote again because my first one was ‘confusing’. Then I randomly voted Pyro, then apparently that was also screwing things up, so now I’m finally voting for 404.
Don’t really see the problem here.

Apr 04, 2012 at 09:00PM EDT
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When you said this: “probably gonna vote for me now”

Algernon read that and thought you were voting for yourself when you were actually talking about Pyro.

Apr 04, 2012 at 09:05PM EDT
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guys I think I have two ideas:

1) We PM Jeff, asking for him to come and vote. It seems practical, although we cannot be entirely certain that he is available

2) I.H.S and BSoD retract their votes since they are pretty much here at the thread at this point and it will make things a lot easier (imo)

Apr 04, 2012 at 09:08PM EDT
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Another thing you can do to avoid voting confusion: bold your choice. *choice*

Edit: @Slappy
BSoD retracting his vote would have no effect at all.

Last edited Apr 04, 2012 at 09:11PM EDT
Apr 04, 2012 at 09:08PM EDT
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My vote is currently on Dr.Meme so retracting my vote won’t help.

1 person on Ice and one person on 404 need to retract.

Or we can just get one more person to vote for Meme, I really wish nightfury would put his vote back in.

Apr 04, 2012 at 09:14PM EDT
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Blue Screen wrote:

@Algernon
Ice did not vote for himself! Look again:
I random ‘ed and got Pyro. I’m trying to keep the tie then, ok.
(probably gonna vote for me now though)

Here he actually voted for Pyro then implied that Pyro would likely vote for him in responce

Darnit… now I just feel silly.
Sorry for any confusion I caused there.


Edit: In the interest of keeping this a tie, I’m retracting my vote.
(I’d voted 404)

Last edited Apr 04, 2012 at 09:18PM EDT
Apr 04, 2012 at 09:16PM EDT
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ugh geez, sorry BSoD

I thought you were Citation

EDT: okay… so that means that someonewho voted for I.H.S needs to retract also…

Come on guys, please be reading this… :(

Last edited Apr 04, 2012 at 09:37PM EDT
Apr 04, 2012 at 09:25PM EDT
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I guess we are all getting mighty confused. Even Slappy is confusing one of friendlier forum posters for one of the angriest (I kid)

One person to retract a vote from Ice. Any takers?

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Apr 04, 2012 at 09:41PM EDT
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madcat wrote:

He posted above with his estimated time until phase end.

I’ve been a straight-up fool in this game…Thanks, madcat.


@BSoD

I retract my vote from Iced Hot Chocolate.

I’m not voting for anyone right now. I’d prefer it if the non-voters would vote, because it leaves less room for error, but given how I’ve been missing some obvious stuff this round, I’m just going to do as asked.

Also, in addition to being clear in how you’re voting and putting it in bold, I’d suggest people put it on a line by itself, so as not to get it lost in what you’re explaining. How we go about the game here is based primarily on vote counts. If anything, then let’s make that obviously clear for those who go through the trouble of counting them.

Apr 04, 2012 at 09:59PM EDT
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You know, Douglas, I believe that the votes have started to solidify a fair bit, especially considering everyone has stated their vote or lack thereof, thus far

My suggestion would just be waiting at least half an hour to ensure that no more shitstorms occur and then starting the next phase.

That way, it will help to progress the game as well as prevent more confusions, if noone else is to vote.

Also, you should really be making more of an effort to improve on the story within the game. I know the theme of TF2 doesn’t leave that much room, but that doesn’t mean i’m not expecting BSoD quality presentation

Apr 04, 2012 at 10:07PM EDT
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  • 404 : 5 votes (madcat, Nikolaki8, seal clubba, Dr. Meme, Iced Hot)
  • Iced Hot : 5 votes (CitationNeeded, 404, EP73, Pyro, RandomMan)
  • Dr. Meme : 5 votes (slappy, Fudge Gruck, BSOD, Max, Bob)
  • Non-Voters : 5 players (Bruelock, Jeffery, Nightfury, Algernon, Verbose)

Are we sure this time, no changing?

Last edited Apr 04, 2012 at 10:09PM EDT
Apr 04, 2012 at 10:08PM EDT
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alright.
All the Engineers couldn’t decide whether to kill Dr. Meme or Iced., so they flipped a coin. Iced heads, Meme tails. The coin went up in the air. a fallow engineer caught the coin. the coin landed on… Heads. The Engineers tied Iced to a post, and beat him to death.
Iced was the Demoman.
…yeah, i’m not good at this stuff.
it is now the Night phase

Apr 04, 2012 at 10:36PM EDT
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I know the theme of TF2 doesn’t leave that much room, but that doesn’t mean i’m not expecting BSoD quality presentation

Only BSoD can offer BSoD quality narration.

[edit]

Iced was the Demoman

 

FUUUUUUUUUUU

 

[edit again]

Okay, calming down now. Must stay focused.

So I take it that this was a tie between Dr.Meme and Ice then. 404 fell short?

404 : 5 votes (madcat, Nikolaki8, seal clubba, Dr. Meme, Iced Hot)
Iced Hot : 5 votes (CitationNeeded, 404, EP73, Pyro, RandomMan)
Dr. Meme : 5 votes (slappy, Fudge Gruck, BSOD, Max, Bob)

This could mean that more mafia votes were pooled into 404.

Last edited Apr 04, 2012 at 10:44PM EDT
Apr 04, 2012 at 10:37PM EDT
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…wait a second…

How were the engies unable to (theoretically) tell who the Demoman was out of that group?

I mean, he’s Scottish, for christ’s sake

Ah well… at least this helps us get somewhere since there was an imbalance of real votes as cause by mafia thus leading to a two-way tie in exclusion of 404

This leads to one of the following scenarios (numbers shall refer to # mafia voted, assuming there are only four):

A) 1 I.H.S, 1 Meme, 2 404
B-E) 0 I.H.S, 0 Meme, 1-4 404, 3-0 Unvoted (cannot be 4 since 404 was not in tie)

Although this does not give much to work on as of yet, it is a good start.

Also, although there are several scenarios to choose from, I believe that next turn we should attempt to take down max. I’m sorry, but the misplaced vote trick only works once, and I believe that I took that honour.

In addition, with pursuing max, in the worst case scenario, we kill an engy and all scenarios are still valid. However, if he indeed is a Spy, then we can then resort to Scenario A and work from there.

If anyone has noticed anything wrong with my logic, please do not be ashamed to attempt to correct me.

Last edited Apr 04, 2012 at 10:56PM EDT
Apr 04, 2012 at 10:41PM EDT
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@Slappy

You’re almost correct, but you forgot that we decided to not let the Scout’s vote count.

So let me put it down a bit better.


Scenario 1:

  • No mafia voted for Dr. Meme and Iced Hot -> All mafia votes are scattered between 404 and non-voters.

Scenario 2:

  • Dr. Meme and Iced Hote both received 1 mafia vote -> 2 mafia voted 404, remaining mafia voted 404 or not at all.

The scenario’s are a bit too open atm, we’ll be able to narrow it down after another day phase.

Last edited Apr 04, 2012 at 11:07PM EDT
Apr 04, 2012 at 11:03PM EDT
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This could mean that more mafia votes were pooled into 404.

Of course.
 
Remember when seal clubba and Nikolaki8 changed their votes despite our strategy to tie?

Max did the same thing, and people have said 404 is acting differently, no?


Surely, that is too easy, yes?

Apr 04, 2012 at 11:07PM EDT
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But of course, Verby.

The odd methods employed by the following people do strike an air of suspicion. However, given the limited voting circumstances, it would be wiser to vote on the more obvious discrepancies and give other people the chance to prove their innocence or otherwise.

Also, I’m guessing your new avatar is Gardenia from Pokemon D/P/Pt? If not, feel free to correct me

Apr 04, 2012 at 11:14PM EDT
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Uhm… Im here and im somewhat skimming through these posts… WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?! LIKE HORY SHIRT.

Im guessing I remain unvoted since you guys do have a 3 way tie at this point.

Apr 05, 2012 at 12:03AM EDT
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The Demoman? On the first go?

It’s like Mafia Game 6 all over again…

Apr 05, 2012 at 12:07AM EDT

@Jeffrey

The voting has already passed for the Day Phase. We’re in the Night Phase.
As for the shirt, it was most certainly hory. A few users saw to that.


@Slappy

I would say that Random’s second scenario fits my suspicions, but one of those who voted for 404 and some of those who didn’t vote are game-savvy enough to evade suspicion. We’ll see if someone can offer some hints.

Huh, I suppose the redhair and greenish cloak makes her look that way, but it’s actually R. Dorothy Wayneright. I am a fan of Pokémon, so the guess isn’t so…
 
…Farfetch’d.

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Apr 05, 2012 at 12:45PM EDT
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RandomMans second scenario Does seem to make sense, but we should wait till the after the next day phase to pursue our suspicions.

@Verbose

Apr 05, 2012 at 01:23PM EDT
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Scout has sent vote in.
As EP73 was walking around his base, doing his stuff, he saw opspe come in.
guess he didn’t get the memo.
The spy backstabbed EP and sapped all of his things, and took his ID card.
it said:
EP73: Occupation: Engineer
it is now Day phase

Apr 05, 2012 at 10:52PM EDT
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Scout has sent vote in.
As EP73 was walking around his base, doing his stuff, he saw opspe come in.
guess he didn’t get the memo.
The spy backstabbed EP and sapped all of his things, and took his ID card.
it said:
EP73: Occupation: Engineer
it is now Day phase

Is opspe even playing? I don’t get it.

I suppose I should disregard the story and just know that EP73 is dead and was an Engineer.

Apr 05, 2012 at 11:03PM EDT
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Well, considering it’s day time, I’m going to start the votes off by going for max.

If we can go for another three way tie, we might get further in mafia accusations

Apr 05, 2012 at 11:09PM EDT
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Personally, I think we should just go for a two way tie, for the sake of sanity.

I will vote for Nightfury Treann

Apr 05, 2012 at 11:21PM EDT
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FudgeGruck wrote:

Personally, I think we should just go for a two way tie, for the sake of sanity.

I will vote for Nightfury Treann

I think a three-way tie is best, assuming everyone votes. It forces an uneven distribution among the spies.

I also suggest we vote for people who did not vote or at least make them a priority. Especially if they commented on the thread and didn’t vote.
 
Nightfury has already been voted for.
 
I’m voting for Nikolaki8.

Apr 05, 2012 at 11:34PM EDT
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