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Are Yu-Gi-Oh card exploitables strong enough to be their own meme?

Last posted Aug 21, 2009 at 02:59AM EDT. Added Aug 19, 2009 at 11:00PM EDT
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These three are just a few of the many Yu-Gi-Oh! card exploitables. I don’t know much about the whole deal, but I’ve seen it used a lot for other memes. Can it stand on its own as a meme or is it not meme-worthy enough and should just be considered a sub-meme of “Oh, Exploitable!”? THank you.

Aug 19, 2009 at 11:00PM EDT
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I’ve seen a lot of “Magic” cardsploitables (??) as well so maybe we could have an entry just for cards in general?

Aug 19, 2009 at 11:07PM EDT
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In that case, you must include all the “Magic: the Gathering” exploitables.

Damn, Frketson got me

Aug 19, 2009 at 11:09PM EDT
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I can handle it, I think, if no one proposes himself.
But, as far i’m concerned, I’d like to wait for an admin agreement on this.

Aug 19, 2009 at 11:30PM EDT
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i could do it, but do you have any info like where it originated or anything like that??

Aug 19, 2009 at 11:30PM EDT
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@ Tomberry

I agree that we let the admins approve of this before making an entry.

@ Frkeston

I don’t even know what they’re official names are. I don’t know where to start.

Aug 19, 2009 at 11:40PM EDT
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@ Real Genius

Could you at least elaborate why it’s not a meme rather than just saying, “meh, not a meme”.

Aug 20, 2009 at 01:09AM EDT
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@ Frketson

Random bystander 1: BOO!
Random bystander 2: GO AWAY!
Random bystander 3: TITS or GTFO!
Random bystander 4: WE DON’T LIKE YOU!
Random bystander 5: ????
Random bystander 6: PROFIT!
Me: LOL!

Aug 20, 2009 at 01:30AM EDT
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Tits it is then

flashes everyone in the room

still waiting for that applause i crave so much

Aug 20, 2009 at 02:05AM EDT
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Hmm.

One hand there are plenty of Magic the Gathering meme cards that I have seen and there are probably some Yu-gi-oh cards as well.


LOL

Anyways, it’s the fact that these are made from previously known cards that I’m not sure about.

I say go for it.

But the more variations of card borders you can find the better. Try to find some that are NOT related to a previously released product.

Aug 20, 2009 at 07:41AM EDT
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Fake RPG/battle cards would make a good entry as long as it doesn’t focus on just one series or another. These have existed for a number of games, not just Yu -Gi-Oh.

Aug 20, 2009 at 10:04AM EDT
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It doesn’t fit the criteria for an actual meme, it seems.

Aug 20, 2009 at 02:03PM EDT
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I’m somewhat at the same point as Frketson was.
I’ve found many instances from differents cards games, as well as homemade new cards games with memes in it, but I cant’ get a hand on when and from where all this craze started. It’s kinda frustrating…

Aug 20, 2009 at 03:52PM EDT
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Fake Magic The Gathering cards have been around since at least the 90’s
http://www.yamoslair.com/fakecard.html

I think the next step is to research the history of trading card games, and find when the first battle/rpg card games started, and which one’s were popular in the early 90’s.

Aug 20, 2009 at 04:06PM EDT
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nevermind. Wikipedia says this:


The modern concept of CCG games was first presented in Magic: The Gathering, designed by Richard Garfield and published by Wizards of the Coast in 1993. An earlier game that might be described as a collectible card game was The Base Ball Card Game produced by The Allegheny Card Co. and registered on April 5, 1904.[1][2]

So basically, we just have to find the earliest examples of fake or spoof Magic cards, and build outward from there.

Aug 20, 2009 at 04:08PM EDT
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Also, Yatta came up with a great list of factors that we look for in evaluating a meme. Try to express each of these points in your research.

1) Viral Spread: search results, social media mentions, forum posts, route of spread.
2) Point of Origin: Find out where the meme first appeared and provide proof that it spread beyond its original subculture.
3) Derivatives: Existing volume of spoofs, mashups, remixes, parodies, recontextualizations, and re-enactments. Is it mutating?
4) Appearance in Memetic Hubs: Websites and communities that have been made famous for spreading and culturing memes.
5) Organic / Forced Memes: Was the meme spread peer to peer or was it astroturfed? Even astroturfed phenomena can become memes.
6) Spin-offs / Sub-memes: Many memes spawn entire trees of sub-memes.

Aug 20, 2009 at 04:10PM EDT
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You’re unbelievable Chris.
I can only bow before you too.

Aug 20, 2009 at 05:33PM EDT
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ARGH!! It’s irritating! I’m finding dozens upon dozens of these fake cards for both Magic and Yu-Gi-Oh! but I can’t find any point of origin. Are other people doing research on these things too because it would be pretty relieving to know that I’m not the only guy suffering?

Aug 20, 2009 at 05:36PM EDT
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As far As I’ve gathered, Magic, Yu-gi-oh and Pokemon are the main card games where there are tons of fakes cards (also called “Funcards” in somes areas) made.
An entire Magic remade images section exists in Macrochan.
There are some examples on ED as well.
Facepunch and 4chan battle cards have also been made.

I wonder if the very first fake card was “Ze Goggles” because it was one of the most popular instance of Magic: The gathering altered card and it kinda matches with what you have found, Chris, the mid-1990s.

Aug 20, 2009 at 05:42PM EDT
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Tomberry beat me to the punch. I was about to say the same thing about the 4chan battle cards. I haven’t seen any instances of Pokemans cards yet, though.

There are more examples on sites like Uncyclopedia, deviantART, Google and Yahoo! images, and many more. Its spread is phenomenal. All that we’re actually missing is a point of origin.

It does seem that the “The Goggles” card seems to be famous even though it just does nothing.

I’ll lurk some moar to see if I can find any more info.

Aug 20, 2009 at 06:07PM EDT
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Wow good work so far guys.

My contribution.

Where to make the Magic Cards.

http://magic.falseblue.com/ this site was made around 2005 from my research.

i maed diz wun mahsalf!

Aug 20, 2009 at 06:58PM EDT
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This may be notable as well.

The ED article for Magic was created a year or so before the article for yugioh

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=Magic&dir=prev&action=history

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=Yu-Gi-Oh&dir=prev&action=history

Aug 20, 2009 at 07:15PM EDT
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I don’t think this is the origin, but this is significant:

CCG Maker is an early image macro program written for Windows in 2001.

First archived by archive.org in 2001.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010715095613/http://www.ccgmaker.com/

The site hasn’t changed much today.

http://www.ccgmaker.com

Aug 20, 2009 at 08:43PM EDT
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This site contains text descriptions of spoof magic cards, but doesn’t even have any photoshopped images of them.
It started in 1994.
http://www.frivolity.com

It seems that spoofs of magic cards, and even physically real counterfeit cards were a part of the Magic: The Gathering fandom already only a year after its release. I don’t know that we’ll ever find THE FIRST EXAMPLE of this, as it likely occurred in multiple places simultaneously.

So far it looks to go like this:

Early text descriptions of spoof cards in 1994

There may have been some early photoshops between 1994-2000 but I have yet to find any.

Most search results that return images seem to come from 2001.

Aug 20, 2009 at 09:17PM EDT
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Chris, I admire your researcher’s skills.
Do you think we got almost all the keys now ?

Aug 20, 2009 at 09:50PM EDT
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@Tomberry, thanks!

Yeah I think we’ve definitely got enough to start a meme entry. Whoever wants to start it can go ahead.
We’ve got some early examples. Then there’s the CCG Maker at the same time that most of the spoof/fake cards came out. And we have the newer one from 2005. I think we might also want to look into what year Adobe Photoshop became really widely used for these.

Then the next step is just to find other series such as Yuh-Gi-Oh and gather what information you can on their spread.

Aug 20, 2009 at 10:12PM EDT
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Wow… I guess being gone for a while will result in a conversation to boom. Nice finds everybody! Now who’s gonna start the entry?

This is one of my favorites:

Aug 21, 2009 at 02:08AM EDT
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