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Last posted Oct 13, 2014 at 02:52PM EDT. Added Mar 20, 2012 at 11:11PM EDT
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I just saw the last couple of episodes. Wow.


I really did like how they killed off most of the main villains, giving Zaheer a reason to come back, not just to achieve his earlier goals, but also for revenge; the Red Lotus is still out there, so they could potentially get him to escape somehow.

Something I never really got clear- did Mako suddenly learn how to bend lightning, or did he have one of Asami’s gloves?
I know that magma bending has something to do with having an Earth bender and a Fire bender for parents (or at least have parents from the Fire Nation and the Earth Kingdom), but how is lightning-bending learned/inherited?


Most of the series doesn’t fully follow Korra, but the rest of the group. Korra has run off shortly after regaining the ability to walk(though not really well). She is ashamed of how weak she is, and has decided to run off to train by herself.Everyone else must deal with finding Korra, and defeating the Red Lotus before they can finish what they started.
Aug 23, 2014 at 12:23AM EDT
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Ultron Clone 228 wrote:

I just saw the last couple of episodes. Wow.


I really did like how they killed off most of the main villains, giving Zaheer a reason to come back, not just to achieve his earlier goals, but also for revenge; the Red Lotus is still out there, so they could potentially get him to escape somehow.

Something I never really got clear- did Mako suddenly learn how to bend lightning, or did he have one of Asami’s gloves?
I know that magma bending has something to do with having an Earth bender and a Fire bender for parents (or at least have parents from the Fire Nation and the Earth Kingdom), but how is lightning-bending learned/inherited?


Most of the series doesn’t fully follow Korra, but the rest of the group. Korra has run off shortly after regaining the ability to walk(though not really well). She is ashamed of how weak she is, and has decided to run off to train by herself.Everyone else must deal with finding Korra, and defeating the Red Lotus before they can finish what they started.

Mako has been lightning bending since season 1.

On season 4, I’m not sure I like that so much, but it may just work.

Aug 23, 2014 at 12:38AM EDT
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i was getting super hyped when Zaheer flew is was like wtf is this. Season 3 did some serious justice to airbending

Aug 23, 2014 at 04:20AM EDT
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Are there any more advanced airbending techniques I need to know about?

Aug 23, 2014 at 07:16PM EDT
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Gary wrote:

Mako has been lightning bending since season 1.

On season 4, I’m not sure I like that so much, but it may just work.

I always assumed it was just one of Asami’s gloves. They are in equalist uniforms…

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Aug 23, 2014 at 09:25PM EDT
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Ultron Clone 228 wrote:

I always assumed it was just one of Asami’s gloves. They are in equalist uniforms…

Recall that the uniforms were only for disguises. Those gloves never had range or power like actual lightning bending. The point of those gloves were for non-benders to have a change against benders in an actual fight. It’d be pointless for Mako to need one of them.

Aug 23, 2014 at 09:57PM EDT
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Gary wrote:

Recall that the uniforms were only for disguises. Those gloves never had range or power like actual lightning bending. The point of those gloves were for non-benders to have a change against benders in an actual fight. It’d be pointless for Mako to need one of them.

Ok, thanks, didn’t know.

Aug 23, 2014 at 10:14PM EDT
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Theory Time:

Ghazan can lava-bend (which is normally a combination of fire and earth bending i.e. only the avatar can do,) because his bending happens at the sub-atomic level. He takes all the molecules of the rocks he manipulates and rubs them together intensely, causing them to melt and thus become lava.

Bolin simply moves the earth molecules found in the lava. We haven’t really seen him produce lava which is really supernatural and out there much like Ming Hua’s arms and Amon’s blood-bending.

Sep 07, 2014 at 12:21PM EDT
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About the Korra redesign- do the things on her arms look a little like braces to anyone else?
I know she’s able to move her arms fairly well, judging from the book 4 clip, but maybe she would still need support for her limbs in order to bend like she used to.

Sep 26, 2014 at 11:10AM EDT
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Insane prediction: Zhu Li turns out to be a sleeper agent for the Red Lotus.

Sep 26, 2014 at 06:41PM EDT
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Platus wrote:

Insane prediction: Zhu Li turns out to be a sleeper agent for the Red Lotus.

That would not be a bad twist. Perhaps mind-control from Dai Li agents who defected?

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Sep 26, 2014 at 11:58PM EDT
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It would seem that Kuvira is indeed the final villain, patiently waiting for her time to strike. She seems to be wielding a rebellion of Earth and Metalbenders, likely filling in the void the Earth Queen left. My guess is that she’ll represent Fascism. She has cutting edge technology, she worked in the army of her country, then its monarchy ends and who knows, maybe she’ll blame the Airbenders for it. It was Zaheer and his newly-acquired abilities that killed the queen, anyways. Totally play up the Earthbender superiority, since they have been a pretty powerful kingdom in the past. Yeah, it’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas Fascism, since Book 1 was Communism, God knows what Book 2 was and Book 3 was Anarchy. This is the last major political movement in the early 1900’s, that is, until the end of World War Two and the beginning of the 1950’s, which ends the first half of the 20th century, just as this (probably) ends the Avatar universe. But I’m pretty sure my guessing record for this show has been spotty at best, so who knows?

Sep 27, 2014 at 09:14AM EDT
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Arlon The Serene (Free Cake) wrote:

It would seem that Kuvira is indeed the final villain, patiently waiting for her time to strike. She seems to be wielding a rebellion of Earth and Metalbenders, likely filling in the void the Earth Queen left. My guess is that she’ll represent Fascism. She has cutting edge technology, she worked in the army of her country, then its monarchy ends and who knows, maybe she’ll blame the Airbenders for it. It was Zaheer and his newly-acquired abilities that killed the queen, anyways. Totally play up the Earthbender superiority, since they have been a pretty powerful kingdom in the past. Yeah, it’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas Fascism, since Book 1 was Communism, God knows what Book 2 was and Book 3 was Anarchy. This is the last major political movement in the early 1900’s, that is, until the end of World War Two and the beginning of the 1950’s, which ends the first half of the 20th century, just as this (probably) ends the Avatar universe. But I’m pretty sure my guessing record for this show has been spotty at best, so who knows?

Well seeing what I saw today, you might be right on the spot about fascism being the theme of the season

Oct 03, 2014 at 12:48PM EDT
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Sajua Wanu wrote:

Well seeing what I saw today, you might be right on the spot about fascism being the theme of the season

I agree. She totally gave off the “fascist wannabe-dictator playing just nice enough to get support before she brings the hammer down” vibe.

I’m actually surprised there is a vibe like this. It seems oddly specific.

Also: Bolin, why must you fall for this? Listen to Opel!

Oct 03, 2014 at 12:56PM EDT
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Platus wrote:

I agree. She totally gave off the “fascist wannabe-dictator playing just nice enough to get support before she brings the hammer down” vibe.

I’m actually surprised there is a vibe like this. It seems oddly specific.

Also: Bolin, why must you fall for this? Listen to Opel!

Sadly Bolin isnt the brightest of the bunch, and I feel like it makes sense, they probably want to say that even in fascism, nice people can become pieces of the machinery.
I’m really liking this so far, more than the other season actually. Let’s see where it goes now.

Edit: I’m calling it right now, Kuvira’s probably the one sending the bandits, althought I feel it’d add more depth if she wasn’t

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Oct 03, 2014 at 01:04PM EDT
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Sajua Wanu wrote:

Sadly Bolin isnt the brightest of the bunch, and I feel like it makes sense, they probably want to say that even in fascism, nice people can become pieces of the machinery.
I’m really liking this so far, more than the other season actually. Let’s see where it goes now.

Edit: I’m calling it right now, Kuvira’s probably the one sending the bandits, althought I feel it’d add more depth if she wasn’t

I’m fairly certain she is sending them, though I’m willing to bet that might be something she started doing within the past couple of months in the show. Trying to get more supporters and all that.

Oct 03, 2014 at 06:08PM EDT
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Ultron Clone 228 wrote:

I’m fairly certain she is sending them, though I’m willing to bet that might be something she started doing within the past couple of months in the show. Trying to get more supporters and all that.

If she is, then she’s probably doing it indirectly. Or, at least, she is abetting and stoking a bandit problem that would have existed anyway.

After all, her train was attacked by bandits, who apparently had no idea what they were doing, and she had to threaten to leave them to be run over by a train (!) before they would join her gang of thugs (and Bolin). None of that would have happened if they were getting a paycheck from her.

Oct 03, 2014 at 06:13PM EDT
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Platus wrote:

If she is, then she’s probably doing it indirectly. Or, at least, she is abetting and stoking a bandit problem that would have existed anyway.

After all, her train was attacked by bandits, who apparently had no idea what they were doing, and she had to threaten to leave them to be run over by a train (!) before they would join her gang of thugs (and Bolin). None of that would have happened if they were getting a paycheck from her.

Yea sure, there might be independent bandits, but the biggest giveaway for me is the “air supplies hijack scene”. I’m not too sure about bandits confident enough to fight airbenders in the sky if not ordered to do so. But again, you might also be right.

Oct 03, 2014 at 07:44PM EDT
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Sajua Wanu wrote:

Yea sure, there might be independent bandits, but the biggest giveaway for me is the “air supplies hijack scene”. I’m not too sure about bandits confident enough to fight airbenders in the sky if not ordered to do so. But again, you might also be right.

I could buy it that she got some of the goons on her side to stage that air attack. What strengthens the possibility for me was how the guy was prepared for air gusts (with the tether) and also knew to go after Kai’s flight suit.

But, like, that’s one attack with a specific and limited goal. I doubt that she’s the mastermind behind all of the bandits.

Oct 04, 2014 at 01:59AM EDT
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For those wondering if the airborne bandit is one of Kuvira’s goons, this may be definitive proof

Of course that could just be a look alike; you know how animation goes. Also, I’m not too keen on the idea that this is indeed the same person yet because that’s a bit too fast to prep some ruffian to go against two fully trained airbenders. Either way, whether that is the same bandit or not, I’m pretty sure it’s one of Kuvira’s schmucks. He’s got all the tools necessary to take down airbenders and steal the supplies. Not to mention, he has a friggin jet. No way some low-lives would get a hold of that without help from someone with money to spend.

Oct 04, 2014 at 11:50AM EDT
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I just thought up a possible ending scenario:

>Kuvira uses her power base to depose the Earth King
>Mako, Korra, and the air benders get together to fight her
>Bolin, after seeing what Kuvira is really like, betrays her and plays a key part in her defeat
>With the royal family gone and Kuvira defeated, the Earth Kingdom needs a new government
>They go with democracy
>But who would make a good Earth President?
>Flash forward a few months, and the results are in

>Say hello to President Bolin

Oct 12, 2014 at 04:49PM EDT
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Platus wrote:

I just thought up a possible ending scenario:

>Kuvira uses her power base to depose the Earth King
>Mako, Korra, and the air benders get together to fight her
>Bolin, after seeing what Kuvira is really like, betrays her and plays a key part in her defeat
>With the royal family gone and Kuvira defeated, the Earth Kingdom needs a new government
>They go with democracy
>But who would make a good Earth President?
>Flash forward a few months, and the results are in

>Say hello to President Bolin

Mmm Maybe, but somehow I don’t see it, I think thy gave the soon to be King Wu too much screen time and personality to just put him aside at the end, maybe they’ll go with a parlamentary monarchy?
What I can see, is Kuvira going to war against all the other nations(WWII anyone?), and winning the fights at first (of course)
But yeah, Bolin president? I can’t see it, I might eat my words in a few weeks tho ^^’

Oct 12, 2014 at 05:08PM EDT
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Sajua Wanu wrote:

Mmm Maybe, but somehow I don’t see it, I think thy gave the soon to be King Wu too much screen time and personality to just put him aside at the end, maybe they’ll go with a parlamentary monarchy?
What I can see, is Kuvira going to war against all the other nations(WWII anyone?), and winning the fights at first (of course)
But yeah, Bolin president? I can’t see it, I might eat my words in a few weeks tho ^^’

My reasoning with Bolin:

- I don’t think either the Earth King or Kuvira will be on the throne by season’s end. (Which doesn’t mean that the King won’t get more screen time.) Someone will have to replace them.
- Democracy already exists in the Avatar-verse in Republic City, and totally fits the “balance” motif between anarchy (Red Lotus) and fascism (Kuvira). (Also, Republic City’s founding shows that there is a precedent for avatars resolving political messes by creating democracies.)
- Bolin has had a lot of positive character development so far, and will likely get more once the him vs Team Avatar thing plays out. He certainly isn’t the same goof he was in season one.
- He is already famous for his movies.
- He is the only member of Team Avatar who is both an earth bender and an Earth Kingdom citizen.
- He also has a humble background, which makes him basically the opposite of every Earth leader so far.
- His position of trust in Kuvira’s army gives him an opportunity to publicly and with great fanfare fuck her shit right as she’s about to be successful.
- Thus, an election is likely to occur at season’s end, and Bolin will be a highly electable candidate. He and Mako can then move into the palace, completing their rise from poverty to the heights of society.

And I honestly don’t see a constitutional monarchy coming out of this. The Earth King’s line is already drawing deep – he was the Earth Queen’s nephew, and if he dies the next in line will either be too young or an even more distant relative. Also, he’s basically a figurehead to be manipulated by his advisers. Bolin can certainly do better than that.

Not saying this will totally happen. Just that it’s a viable possibility – that the parts are already there, waiting to be assembled.

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Oct 12, 2014 at 05:25PM EDT
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Platus wrote:

My reasoning with Bolin:

- I don’t think either the Earth King or Kuvira will be on the throne by season’s end. (Which doesn’t mean that the King won’t get more screen time.) Someone will have to replace them.
- Democracy already exists in the Avatar-verse in Republic City, and totally fits the “balance” motif between anarchy (Red Lotus) and fascism (Kuvira). (Also, Republic City’s founding shows that there is a precedent for avatars resolving political messes by creating democracies.)
- Bolin has had a lot of positive character development so far, and will likely get more once the him vs Team Avatar thing plays out. He certainly isn’t the same goof he was in season one.
- He is already famous for his movies.
- He is the only member of Team Avatar who is both an earth bender and an Earth Kingdom citizen.
- He also has a humble background, which makes him basically the opposite of every Earth leader so far.
- His position of trust in Kuvira’s army gives him an opportunity to publicly and with great fanfare fuck her shit right as she’s about to be successful.
- Thus, an election is likely to occur at season’s end, and Bolin will be a highly electable candidate. He and Mako can then move into the palace, completing their rise from poverty to the heights of society.

And I honestly don’t see a constitutional monarchy coming out of this. The Earth King’s line is already drawing deep – he was the Earth Queen’s nephew, and if he dies the next in line will either be too young or an even more distant relative. Also, he’s basically a figurehead to be manipulated by his advisers. Bolin can certainly do better than that.

Not saying this will totally happen. Just that it’s a viable possibility – that the parts are already there, waiting to be assembled.

Ok, I just watched the chapter 3 preview, and I get the vibe that you are right, Wu won’t be king by the end of this unless he changes drastically. And yeah of course Kuvira won’t be in the throne at the end.
You know what, ok. I’m buying it, maybe Bolin will be the president. I’m pretty sure Bolin will not abandon Kuvira right away after things start going to shit tho. He will, just not right away. When Bolin will “rebel” against her it’ll more depth and maybe wisdom? to his character, which would be your point about positive character development.That’d also fit right into the redemption theme in Avatar.
Mako will be his bodyguard, and marry Wu.

Oct 12, 2014 at 05:49PM EDT
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Sajua Wanu wrote:

Ok, I just watched the chapter 3 preview, and I get the vibe that you are right, Wu won’t be king by the end of this unless he changes drastically. And yeah of course Kuvira won’t be in the throne at the end.
You know what, ok. I’m buying it, maybe Bolin will be the president. I’m pretty sure Bolin will not abandon Kuvira right away after things start going to shit tho. He will, just not right away. When Bolin will “rebel” against her it’ll more depth and maybe wisdom? to his character, which would be your point about positive character development.That’d also fit right into the redemption theme in Avatar.
Mako will be his bodyguard, and marry Wu.

And it was actually right after seeing the preview that I came up with the idea.

Also, I think that it would just be funny that, after dreading being the king’ bodyguard so much, he ends up chilling in Ba Sing Se with his brother the president.

Oct 12, 2014 at 08:15PM EDT
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Platus wrote:

And it was actually right after seeing the preview that I came up with the idea.

Also, I think that it would just be funny that, after dreading being the king’ bodyguard so much, he ends up chilling in Ba Sing Se with his brother the president.

And they’ve already established they have a big family in Ba Sing Se, so it’d be all the more natural for the two of them to end up there in the end. I mean both of them have sort of always been looking for some kind of family. This might be the chance for them to reconnect with their biological one.
Will Mako stop being a Republic city cop tho ^^?

Oct 13, 2014 at 01:20AM EDT
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Sajua Wanu wrote:

And they’ve already established they have a big family in Ba Sing Se, so it’d be all the more natural for the two of them to end up there in the end. I mean both of them have sort of always been looking for some kind of family. This might be the chance for them to reconnect with their biological one.
Will Mako stop being a Republic city cop tho ^^?

Well, I doubt Bolin will want to keep the Da Li up and running, considering how unrepentantly evil they are. So Ba sing Se is going to need a new police force.

I’m sure Chief Mako will be up to the task.

(Also, the more I think about this, the more I want it to happen. Holy crap.)

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Oct 13, 2014 at 01:56AM EDT
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Platus wrote:

Well, I doubt Bolin will want to keep the Da Li up and running, considering how unrepentantly evil they are. So Ba sing Se is going to need a new police force.

I’m sure Chief Mako will be up to the task.

(Also, the more I think about this, the more I want it to happen. Holy crap.)

Something more to this; What if Mako and Bolin’s family are also related to the Earth Kingdom royalty, but were disowned somehow by a previous king/queen (and their grandmother is the only one who knows about it)? The Dai Li might be more… cooperative with someone with royal blood.

Oct 13, 2014 at 07:52AM EDT
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Ultron Clone 228 wrote:

Something more to this; What if Mako and Bolin’s family are also related to the Earth Kingdom royalty, but were disowned somehow by a previous king/queen (and their grandmother is the only one who knows about it)? The Dai Li might be more… cooperative with someone with royal blood.

In a few weeks’ time, this will either be canon or my new fanfic. Maybe both.

Oct 13, 2014 at 02:52PM EDT
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