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What is your political view?

Last posted May 25, 2012 at 07:10PM EDT. Added May 22, 2012 at 11:36PM EDT
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Well, what is YOUR political view?
Mine is Communism.
PURE Communism, not that stalinist shit.

PURE Communism is working for mutual benefit. EX: A builder needs food, a farmer needs a house. They exchange services. Whoever works the most gets the most luxuries. Whoever doesn't work, gets nothing. Housing may be free, but if you don't work, you'll just have a house! No beds, no TV, no clothes, etc.
However most of the Americas and European countries are too greedy for this.

I follow the political agenda of "Who gives a crap". It's the idea that none of this political stuff really matters and you shouldn't care because honestly, it gets boring listening to people go on about it.

Last edited May 22, 2012 at 11:42PM EDT

I'm going to state more than you did, and I'm sure I'm going to anger more than a few people with my ideas.

First off, I believe that the rich need to pay their fair share in taxes. Second, I believe that defense contractors and weapons manufacturers that want to deliberately inflate the prices of their goods by suggesting the use of $1000+ nuts or bolts should go screw themselves. Third, I don't believe in "civil unions" for homosexual couples because I think they're still discriminatory.

I also don't believe that corporations are people. I do believe that we should have a strong military, but I don't want it at the expense of the well being of the regular citizens.

One last thing is that I believe that the poor should be sought out and they should be given jobs by the government. I think the state should go out of its way to help these people, but only so long as they are found able to contribute to society.

I find it strange that there's this infatuation with Communism in the majority my peers… Most of them have no political stances on anything other than the legalization of marijuana, and that (because it's Texas) gay marriage shouldn't be legalized (which… I don't really understand why they care so much). I feel as though people have this idea of something political that sounds perfect to them, so they roll with it.

Communism, pure communism, isn't perfect.

No pure economic systems can thrive in the long term… They don't adapt correctly, or quickly enough. That being said, what you listed isn't pure communism to begin with. The "whoever works most gets the most luxuries" thing is a slap in the face to pure communism, actually.

One of the things that makes communism appealing to me is the lack of classes. No bourgeois, just us proletariat citizens. In this CLASSLESS society, nobody would recieve any more than another, regardless of work done (ie If John builds three houses, and David builds one, they're going to receive the same amount). Otherwise, you'll be making classes. Giving certain people luxuries, while keeping some from others… That's a Have and Have-Not system, also known as exactly what Karl Marx wanted to bring about the end of.

That's all I had to say on that… Now then, my views on politics are simple… I got with the radio host approach:

Everyone else is wrong because I'm right. End of story.

I think that we need to get people who make decisions based on logic and reasoning, and for the good of the population as a whole, and not things that sound good or make them look like a hero.

Also, what TIEM2DIE called pure communism is incorrect, as Patrick said. In pure communism, it's a lot like a hive mind/beehive society. Even though people have specific jobs/classes, they all get the same rewards and luxuries; Protection from the hive, food, and housing.

If humans weren't greedy, then Communism would be absolutely perfect. Unfortunately, humans are greedy, meaning that a democratic government with a free market is the best at this moment in time.

EDIT: what OP described is closer to a barter-system economy.

Last edited May 23, 2012 at 01:36AM EDT

(Lol, Barter System economy is what they use in Star Trek.)
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Anyways, I don't really have strong ratical views (my habbit of always trying to make things we already have better), so I will just state my opinions:

Latino/Native/Black/etc Scolarships should just become "Low Income Scholarships".

Gay Marriage should be legal.

Marajuana and other intoxicants should not. (Tax Cigarettes to hell)

Large Focus on renewable energy, larger focus on energy efficiency. (LED's, LED's everywhere)

And more taxes on the rich.

And then there are people like me who prefer to avoid taking hard stances in politics and remain neutral. I know that there is no perfect or correct political system anywhere in existence.

But at the very least I think the democratic system is less flawed than others and simply needs to be improved. I would object to changing my countries political system to anything else at this stage.

Also because its a hot topic that starts shitstorms, I'll throw in what I think about Gay marriage too:

Marriage, no matter who it is between or where it is should not be a political issue in the first place and the government should not give a single damn who marries to who.

Individuals or private organisations can care as much as they want and reserve the right to argue. But not the government. The government should only see a piece of signed paper and that's that.

If the marriage was done in a church/court room/open field/ Denny's restaurant in front of a pastor/judge/buddhist monk/hobo between a man/woman/woman/man/hermaphrodite the government still should not give a single fuck and roll with it

So if a church won't let two guys marry, those two guys don't have to fight with the church, they can just marry literally anywhere else and still get a legal marriage. Gays get married and the church doesn't have to change. Everybody wins

All I have to say is I pretty much agree with bule screen on Gay Marriage, Rich people should pay Taxes, and that this Thread should be in general.

I respect Nair more and more every day. I'd say he's the closest to my political beliefs, and I agree with everything in the post he made.

Something that I have been pondering for a long time are the advantages of a monarchy over a democracy.

If you have a good leader in a monarchy, then the country does gloriously. Nothing can stand in their way.

On the other hand, human greed usually gets in the way and leads to issues. This could possibly be mitigated with a constitutional monarchy, or a policy where the population can call a vote to overrule the monarchs command.

Have the power ultimately be in the hands of the population, but be led and organized by the monarch.

Another interesting idea I've had in my head is of a country that actually has a very small human population (I'm talking a few hundred or a few thousand people), and these few elite humans organize and command almost-sentient robots. Assign each leader in the group to a certain "mother computer" that sends instructions to it's "child robots", that the child robots then carry out using their on-board AI. The technology is here, but nobody has tried it yet.

As long as the people in charge of the robots had resource management and organizational skills, it would be an extremely powerful country.

^ the only people I would allow to command these "mother computers" are Morgan Freeman and Christopher Walken

also the robots must have their voices

🅱ank 🅱ill wrote:

^ the only people I would allow to command these "mother computers" are Morgan Freeman and Christopher Walken

also the robots must have their voices

"My my, it seems that I am about to eviscerate your internal organs."

"Isn't that something."

ConnerABacon wrote:

Something that I have been pondering for a long time are the advantages of a monarchy over a democracy.

If you have a good leader in a monarchy, then the country does gloriously. Nothing can stand in their way.

On the other hand, human greed usually gets in the way and leads to issues. This could possibly be mitigated with a constitutional monarchy, or a policy where the population can call a vote to overrule the monarchs command.

Have the power ultimately be in the hands of the population, but be led and organized by the monarch.

Another interesting idea I've had in my head is of a country that actually has a very small human population (I'm talking a few hundred or a few thousand people), and these few elite humans organize and command almost-sentient robots. Assign each leader in the group to a certain "mother computer" that sends instructions to it's "child robots", that the child robots then carry out using their on-board AI. The technology is here, but nobody has tried it yet.

As long as the people in charge of the robots had resource management and organizational skills, it would be an extremely powerful country.

1. Look at the history of England and then Great Britain, and you'll see why monarchies are obsolete. You're taking a gamble. You may get a good leader, a mediocre leader or a tyrant. The reason the Magna Carta was created was because of the weakness of King John as a ruler.

2. I'm not even going to comment on that.

ConnerABacon wrote:

Something that I have been pondering for a long time are the advantages of a monarchy over a democracy.

If you have a good leader in a monarchy, then the country does gloriously. Nothing can stand in their way.

On the other hand, human greed usually gets in the way and leads to issues. This could possibly be mitigated with a constitutional monarchy, or a policy where the population can call a vote to overrule the monarchs command.

Have the power ultimately be in the hands of the population, but be led and organized by the monarch.

Another interesting idea I've had in my head is of a country that actually has a very small human population (I'm talking a few hundred or a few thousand people), and these few elite humans organize and command almost-sentient robots. Assign each leader in the group to a certain "mother computer" that sends instructions to it's "child robots", that the child robots then carry out using their on-board AI. The technology is here, but nobody has tried it yet.

As long as the people in charge of the robots had resource management and organizational skills, it would be an extremely powerful country.

"almost sentient" probably wasn't the correct word to use. "problem-solving" would be more accurate, as we do in fact have robots that can do this. robots can pathfind and can figure out the best ways to get to certain areas. Some of the robots that the military is beginning to employ are able to decide when they need to take a shot and who not to shoot, if I remember correctly.

@madcat

You know it's a good idea… >:)

Last edited May 23, 2012 at 02:43PM EDT

One quote.
«Do what you want but be respectful to other people».

Me.
•I dislike religion. I think it has a lot caused of trouble more than it helped to our society since the beginning of mankind (fear mongering, created war and others conflict between nations).I'll respect you for what you believe just don't force your beliefs on me and i'll be ok with this.
•I think gay mariage should be legalized everywhere. people should be allowed to love whoever they want (as long it's not zoophilia).
•As for marijuana, I'm for it (for medical purpose).
•Sadly, I don't believe in nationalism (I just don't see the point of it)
•Freedom of speech is very important.
•No one touch my internet with censorship bill (Sopa, Cispa, Acta, etc)

Blue Screen (of death) wrote:

And then there are people like me who prefer to avoid taking hard stances in politics and remain neutral. I know that there is no perfect or correct political system anywhere in existence.


I pretty much agree with BSOD. every system has his strong point and his weakness. Personally the only political belief I dislike is Conservative & Totalitarianism.

As for economy issue.I don't know a lot on this subject for now to be honest.Ask me some years later and I'll maybe get a view on this topic.

So far.
I consider myself as an Anachist with some Progressivism idea.I think humanity need a serious evolution on social standard.

Last edited May 23, 2012 at 08:38PM EDT

I always thought pure communism was how I explained it – It was how I learned what it was in school XD

Well either way, I'm for the version of Communism I stated – Basically if you don't work, you'd be kicked out I guess, as you wouldn't have anything.

TIEM2DIE wrote:

I always thought pure communism was how I explained it – It was how I learned what it was in school XD

Well either way, I'm for the version of Communism I stated – Basically if you don't work, you'd be kicked out I guess, as you wouldn't have anything.

You'd still be kicked out if you didn't work with real communism.

You're thinking of socialism, where you get taken care of no matter what.

In communism, you need to meet a sort of "quota" for your job or else you get nothing. You either get housing, the best food available to the general populous, and luxuries as long as a majority of other people are able to get it too, or you get absolutely nothing.

TIEM2DIE wrote:

Well, what is YOUR political view?
Mine is Communism.
PURE Communism, not that stalinist shit.

PURE Communism is working for mutual benefit. EX: A builder needs food, a farmer needs a house. They exchange services. Whoever works the most gets the most luxuries. Whoever doesn't work, gets nothing. Housing may be free, but if you don't work, you'll just have a house! No beds, no TV, no clothes, etc.
However most of the Americas and European countries are too greedy for this.

This.

Pure Marxist Communism is perfect until you factor in the fact that people are selfish and prone to hurting one another.

I'm a moderate communitarian, but I identify with the Republican party.

Get rid of all them queers and socialists and coloreds. Teach the bible in public school. No taxes. None of this wishy-washy envrionammint green nonsense. Shoot all them wall streeters and federals straight to hell.

Natsuru Springfield wrote:

(Lol, Barter System economy is what they use in Star Trek.)
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Anyways, I don't really have strong ratical views (my habbit of always trying to make things we already have better), so I will just state my opinions:

Latino/Native/Black/etc Scolarships should just become "Low Income Scholarships".

Gay Marriage should be legal.

Marajuana and other intoxicants should not. (Tax Cigarettes to hell)

Large Focus on renewable energy, larger focus on energy efficiency. (LED's, LED's everywhere)

And more taxes on the rich.

Skeletor-sm

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