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Map Wars 1910 (game thread)

Last posted Sep 04, 2012 at 10:47PM EDT. Added Aug 26, 2012 at 06:54PM EDT
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Signups and rules are here.

Before we begin, I will make a few suggestions regarding in-character posts and actions. First, in-character posts do not have to be exclusively in narrative format. They can be anything ranging from a short telegraph to a lengthy news article. Feel free to include pictures, but not big pictures. Imgur is a good hosting site for that kind of thing. Second, actions using > should only be made regarding diplomacy with NPCs, territory changing hands in negotiations, and any kind of military action. Actions you make now will be for fall of 1910.

Following this post, I will try to update the map and roll action results once every day. I may miss a day every once in a while, especially if school (which starts in a few days) becomes too much for me. If the pace becomes too fast for you, please inform me and I will slow down to once every other day.

Player: Brucker
MAN: 15
EXP: 15
EQP: 12
LTR: 15
NTR: 7
WAR: 11
PAX: 7
INT: 11
DIP: 7
Alignment: Conqueror

Player: Cale
MAN: 13
EXP: 12
EQP: 13
LTR: 15
NTR: 7
WAR: 9
PAX: 10
INT: 10
DIP: 10
Alignment: Conqueror

Player: Alejandro
MAN: 9
EXP: 14
EQP: 10
LTR: 12
NTR: 8
WAR: 11
PAX: 13
INT: 13
DIP: 10
Alignment: Liberator

Player: Russian
MAN: 12
EXP: 14
EQP: 12
LTR: 13
NTR: 10
WAR: 11
PAX: 8
INT: 10
DIP: 10
Alignment: Conqueror

Player: RocketPropelledPanda
MAN: 11
EXP: 14
EQP: 14
LTR: 11
NTR: 11
WAR: 10
PAX: 8
INT: 9
DIP: 12
Alignment: Liberator

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Aug 26, 2012 at 06:54PM EDT
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[[OOC: That feel when you don’t know how to start things up.]]

Aug 26, 2012 at 07:20PM EDT
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Cale wrote:

[[OOC: That feel when you don’t know how to start things up.]]

I tell you; kids today have no respect for history. You take your wife on a visit of state to Sarajevo, ostensibly to attend the opening of the new museum, but of course also to gauge the effectiveness of Bosnian military maneouvers. Of course, many suspect that out of your love for your morganatic spouse, you may have chosen to attend more militarily-oriented events of state given your right to let her stand by your side as your equal while presiding over such matters. Whatever you reason, you end up cornered in a side street by the terrorist organization Black Hand who then proceed to gun you and your wife down. As the two of you bleed to death on the emergency ride to the governor’s house nearby, you are heard to exclaim to your wife (despite being shot in the throat), “Sophie! Don’t die! Live for our children!” Both of you are dead within minutes.

The world is shocked and within a month, the Austro-Hungarian Empire declares war on Serbia, mobilizing its army with support from its main allies, Germany and Italy, while France and Russia mobilize their own forces due to a prearranged alliance agreement with clear interests in the goings-on of Central Europe.

Seventy-eight years later, a Glaswegian post-punk band names itself after you, and puts a song about the event as the “B-Side” to their first single release.

So Alejandro, you need to hurry up and get shot or we will be doomed to never enjoy the melodic strains of “No You Girls”.

Aug 27, 2012 at 03:35AM EDT
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[[OOC: The Arch-Duke doesn’t have to be shot, History doesn’t play a role in this.]]

Aug 27, 2012 at 07:24AM EDT
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Ottoman Empire (WE:0)(TL:1910)
German Empire (WE:0)(TL:1910)
Austria-Hungary (WE:0)(TL:1910)
Russian Empire (WE:0)(TL:1910)
Spain (WE:0)(TL:1910)
United Kingdom NPC (WE:0)(TL:1910)
France NPC (WE:0)(TL:1910)
Italy NPC (WE:0)(TL:1910)
>Absolutely nothing happens.

Last edited Aug 27, 2012 at 08:23PM EDT
Aug 27, 2012 at 08:22PM EDT
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Lionel, I have a question: How specific can we be with our actions? Can we go as far as “attack this province from this province”, or is it more general?

Aug 27, 2012 at 08:24PM EDT
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Piano wrote:

Lionel, I have a question: How specific can we be with our actions? Can we go as far as “attack this province from this province”, or is it more general?

((OOC: I would prefer if you were not as specific. Giving a region to attack (eg: East Prussia) is fine, but giving an exact location (eg: Danzig) is going a bit too far into detail. Details should be saved primarily for describing which regions to annex or hand over to new/existing nations. Post in-character if you wish to be specific as to what just happened on the front. Also, I will be playing through NPC actions to give examples of what I expect, as follows.))

NPC Italy.

A Warning from the Italian Kingdom
It has come to his majesty’s attention that the nation of Switzerland holds captive many thousands of Italian speaking “Swiss” nationals. A formal request has been sent to the Swiss, demanding the immediate secession of these lands and their people. Should they not comply, the Italian state is ready to go as far as war to achieve the goal of protecting the sovereignty of all Italians living in the lower cantons of Switzerland.

>Request that NPC Switzerland cede the following provinces:


((OOC: I will be playing primarily as Italy from now on. All stats are at 10, like any other NPC.))

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Aug 27, 2012 at 08:56PM EDT
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An official message from the Czardom of Russia to the Austro-Hungarian Empire

August 27th, 1910.
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Archduke Alejandro of the Austro-Hungarian Empire,

It has come to the Czar’s attention that your involvement in “liberation” and your proximity to our great empire is a threat to our people, government, and ultimately, the Czar himself. As such, we are forced to take staunch and unmerciful action against you and your military. Thus, we have now mobilised our forces, and will fulfill our mission: mitigating the threat of your nation’s existence.

From the office of Aleksandr D. Krezhnov, Foreign Secretary of the Czardom.


>Invade eastern Austro-Hungary.

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Aug 27, 2012 at 10:23PM EDT
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A Legal Transmission form The Mighty Kaiser of the German Empire, to the Austro-Hungarian Nation:

August 27th, 1910;
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Arch-Duke and Court of the Austro-Hungarian State:

Long have the native Germanic peoples of the Austro-Hungarian “Nation” toiled under ethnic opposition and suppression of their culture and true lineage. The German People have long wished to be reunited with their brothers and sisters and cousins, and it is but the duty of the Kaiser to both rule and protect his people. As a result of this desire a in the interest of recent events, The Kaiser and his Council declare a state of war until the following demands have been met:
1. The release of Germanic territories to the German Empire, as detailed in this document.
2. The surrender of Vienna as a “Racial Filter” to return German peoples to their rightful homes.
3. The payment of Suffrage of Subjugated German People.

Until these demands have been met, the German Empire and Austro-Hungarian State are at war.
. Lukas Hoffman, Representative of the Might Kaiser.
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>Invade North-East Austria-Hungary, march on the Capital

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Aug 27, 2012 at 10:58PM EDT
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Count Lionel wrote:

NPC Italy:
>Conditional: Should Switzerland refuse the prior request, invade.

((OOC: Languages of Europe, 1910. Most of the regions Germany is demanding are, in fact, Czech and not German at all.))

[[OOC: Suuuuuush. We know that, but Alejandro might not.]]

Aug 28, 2012 at 07:44AM EDT
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Ottoman Empire (WE:0)(TL:1911)
German Empire (WE:0)(TL:1910)
>Crushing defeat against Austria-Hungary.
Austria-Hungary (WE:0)(TL:1911)
>Competent two front organization.
>Incompetent defense against Russia.
>Heroic defense against Germany.
Russian Empire (WE:0)(TL:1910)
>Overwhelming victory against Austria-Hungary.
Spain (WE:0)(TL:1910)
United Kingdom NPC (WE:0)(TL:1910)
France NPC (WE:0)(TL:1910)
Italy NPC (WE:1)(TL:1910)
>Switzerland cede request denied.
>Close victory against Switzerland.

Aug 28, 2012 at 06:21PM EDT
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A Message from His Holy Highborn Hip-Hop Holiday Hooligan

>Team Attacking people
Not on my watch brutha.
>Send half of forces to Austria-Hungary to aid in defense and retaking of land.

Aug 28, 2012 at 09:48PM EDT
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Cale wrote:

[[OOC: The Arch-Duke doesn’t have to be shot, History doesn’t play a role in this.]]

[[If history played a roll in this, the Ottoman Empire is fucked regardless.]]

Aug 28, 2012 at 09:56PM EDT
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A message from the government of the Czardom of Russia

August 28th, 1910
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Ruler of Spain,

Your attempts to squander the assault on Austria-Hungary only show the organised and aggressive nature of Europe’s “liberators”. We, the governors of the Czardom, have not committed an attack, not even a preemption, but a defense. We have known of your political conquest of Europe, and have waited far too long to take action. Try as you may, you cannot stop the rebellion that has been broiling within Europe for years, the rebellion against your tyranny, a tyranny that hides itself behind the shield of “liberation” and “peace”. Reinforce your armies if you must. But simply remember that such an action will do nothing.


>Reinforce the army assaulting Austria-Hungary
>After reinforcement, march on towards Austria-Hungary’s capitol

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Aug 28, 2012 at 10:48PM EDT
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A Telegraph From the Honourable Archduke Alejandro of the Austro-Hungarian Nation Transmitted to the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire

>Send regiments sent by Spain and Austro-Hungarian Nation to Ottoman Empire
>Invade Ottoman Empire

Aug 28, 2012 at 10:50PM EDT
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RocketPropelledPanda wrote:

A Message from His Holy Highborn Hip-Hop Holiday Hooligan

>Team Attacking people
Not on my watch brutha.
>Send half of forces to Austria-Hungary to aid in defense and retaking of land.

I can’t.

Aug 28, 2012 at 10:56PM EDT
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Alejandro wrote:

A Telegraph From the Honourable Archduke Alejandro of the Austro-Hungarian Nation Transmitted to the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire

>Send regiments sent by Spain and Austro-Hungarian Nation to Ottoman Empire
>Invade Ottoman Empire

An excerpt from the Russian Empire’s largest newspaper, Daily Czar
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TENSIONS IN EUROPE WORSEN AS AUSTRIA-HUNGARY ATTEMPTS TAKEOVER OF OTTOMAN EMPIRE

“They aren’t even trying to hide their desire to control Europe anymore” Aleksandr Krezhnov told our reporters on Monday. “Austria-Hungary has made an extremely aggressive move for one reason and one reason only: To wipe our Czardom off of the map.”

International politics exploded yesterday when the Archduke of Austria-Hungary, Alejandro A. Alejandro, diverted reinforcements sent from Spain to the Ottoman Empire, in a move which is presumed to be an attempt at flanking the Russian Empire on all fronts.

BOLSHEVIKS GAINING POLITICAL PROMINENCE

An ever-growing political party has…


End excerpt

Aug 28, 2012 at 11:17PM EDT
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((OOC: Well, I guess we are throwing history right out the window, eh?))

An open message to the leaders of the Austro-Hungarian Empire

T he Sultan and his Viziers are shocked at the recent turn of events in Central Europe. Witnessing what appeared to be a many-pronged, unprovoked attack upon you, our once most favored northern ally, we were ready to marshal troops to come to your aid.

H owever, the unfolding of events in recent months has revealed the truth about our former ally: Not only were their armies entirely ready to respond to the attacks, and with complete success on two fronts, but they decided that they could spare further forces to mount an attack upon our blessed Empire, a nation who has been nothing but supportive of them in all of our interactions.

W e now turn to the lands of the Balkans, to Serbia, Bosnia, Romania, and Bulgaria, to ally with us in this conflict. Too long have you felt the boot of Austrian oppression upon your necks, and clearly the time for change is now. We will be moving troops through your lands in the near future; if you choose neutrality but do not stand in our way, then may Allah bring peace upon you, but we pray that you would consider an alliance for the good of all people in Eastern Europe. If you stand in our way or otherwise aid the oppressive Austro-Hungarian regime, then we must consider you active enemies in this conflict.

                       Devlet-i Ebed-müddet!

                        الله أكبر

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Aug 29, 2012 at 02:10PM EDT
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>Send about 50% of ground troops spread out to cross the Balkan nations and meet the Austro-Hungarians at battle where fate says we will. Vehicle convoys will carry excess supplies to share with local nationals: grains and other simple food supplies as well as blankets. If convoy leaders believe they can spare the room, footballs for children as well.
>About 20% of ground forces to set up defenses at the border: trenches, barbed wire, mortar bunkers, etc.
>Remaining ground troops spread across northern edges of Turkey, not to make any aggressive maneuvers, but to watch the sea and the Russian border for suspicious activity.
>Naval forces in the Mediterranean split into three main duties: 70% patrolling the southern Aegean for hostile ships, 20% patrolling the southern shoreline of Turkey, 10% remaining in or near the harbors of Istanbul to add extra protection for the Capital.

Aug 29, 2012 at 03:00PM EDT
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A Legal Transmission form The Mighty Kaiser of the German Empire, to the Austro-Hungarian Nation:

August 27th, 1910;
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Arch-Duke and Court of the Austro-Hungarian State:

It is with bitter-sweet cheer that the Kaiser wishes me to inform you that the invasion and racial claims was a DISTACTION. However, it is with more satisfaction that he wishes to inform you that the war will continue in light of recent events. Though the The Austro-Hungarian State has proved it’s mettle, it will fall to the German Empire, as so many have before.

Lukas Hoffman, Representative of the Might Kaiser.
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A Legal Transmission form The Mighty Kaiser of the German Empire, to The Italian Kingdom:

August 27th, 1910;
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To his Majesty of The Italian Kingdom and Court:

The Noble Kaiser has taken note of The Italian Kingdom’s bold and clever move, and wishes to erect a contract of mutual assistance between the Noble German Empire and the Stalwart Italian Kingdom, in hopes of bettering the wealth and power of both.

Lukas Hoffman, Representative of the Might Kaiser.
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>Begin Conscription of males 20-25
>Begin issuing out War Bonds.
>Establish a Defensive Line of Veterans, Bunkers, and Howitzers ten miles from the border.
>Petitioning Italy for Military-Alliance.
>Wage War on the North-West of AH.

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Aug 29, 2012 at 05:33PM EDT
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((Conscription and war bonds are not things that factor into dice rolls and gameplay actions. I have made no rules regarding such things. I am also going to assume that Austria’s invasion of Turkey is via the sea, since they do not have right-of-way with any NPCs, and that Brucker intends on requesting RoW/alliances from all Balkan NPCs prior to attacking them.))

NPC Italy:
>Continue invasion of Switzerland
>If Bern is captured, annex the entire state.

Aug 29, 2012 at 05:53PM EDT
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Count Lionel wrote:

((Conscription and war bonds are not things that factor into dice rolls and gameplay actions. I have made no rules regarding such things. I am also going to assume that Austria’s invasion of Turkey is via the sea, since they do not have right-of-way with any NPCs, and that Brucker intends on requesting RoW/alliances from all Balkan NPCs prior to attacking them.))

NPC Italy:
>Continue invasion of Switzerland
>If Bern is captured, annex the entire state.

Why do you pick at me for having fun.

Aug 29, 2012 at 06:01PM EDT
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Ottoman Empire (WE:0)(TL:1911)
>Serbia accepts an alliance offer.
>Bosnia denies right-of-way on the grounds that they do not exist.
>Romania refuses right-of-way.
>Bulgaria refuses right-of-way.
>Bulgaria is overrun.
>Minor victory against Austro-Hungarian forces.
>Naval defense in the Aegean is lackluster at best.
>Land defense in Anatolia is barely competent.
>Military organization on both fronts is competent.
German Empire (WE:0)(TL:1910)
>Italy begrudgingly accepts an alliance offer.
>Austro-Hungarian forces are overrun.
Austria-Hungary (WE:0)(TL:1911)
>The military fails to maintain order in a three front war.
>The naval attack in the Aegean barely succeeds.
>Austrian troops succeed in landing in Turkey.
Russian Empire (WE:0)(TL:1911)
>A victory is achieved in Austria-Hungary, but little land is gained.
Spain (WE:1)(TL:1910)
>No progress is made in reclaiming Austro-Hungarian lands.
>Land defense in Hungary is competent. The Russians are halted.
United Kingdom NPC (WE:0)(TL:1911)
France NPC (WE:0)(TL:1911)
Italy NPC (WE:2)(TL:1910)
>A victory against Switzerland is just barely achieved.
>Switzerland is annexed entirely.

Aug 29, 2012 at 06:59PM EDT
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Count Lionel wrote:

Ottoman Empire (WE:0)(TL:1911)
>Serbia accepts an alliance offer.
>Bosnia denies right-of-way on the grounds that they do not exist.
>Romania refuses right-of-way.
>Bulgaria refuses right-of-way.
>Bulgaria is overrun.
>Minor victory against Austro-Hungarian forces.
>Naval defense in the Aegean is lackluster at best.
>Land defense in Anatolia is barely competent.
>Military organization on both fronts is competent.
German Empire (WE:0)(TL:1910)
>Italy begrudgingly accepts an alliance offer.
>Austro-Hungarian forces are overrun.
Austria-Hungary (WE:0)(TL:1911)
>The military fails to maintain order in a three front war.
>The naval attack in the Aegean barely succeeds.
>Austrian troops succeed in landing in Turkey.
Russian Empire (WE:0)(TL:1911)
>A victory is achieved in Austria-Hungary, but little land is gained.
Spain (WE:1)(TL:1910)
>No progress is made in reclaiming Austro-Hungarian lands.
>Land defense in Hungary is competent. The Russians are halted.
United Kingdom NPC (WE:0)(TL:1911)
France NPC (WE:0)(TL:1911)
Italy NPC (WE:2)(TL:1910)
>A victory against Switzerland is just barely achieved.
>Switzerland is annexed entirely.

[OOC]

>Bosnia denies right-of-way on the grounds that they do not exist.

Oh Bosnia, always coming up with excuses.

[/OOC]

Aug 29, 2012 at 08:37PM EDT
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A Legal Transmission form The Mighty Kaiser of the German Empire, to the Powers of The Ottoman Empire, the Russian Empire, the Austro-Hungarian State, The Italian Kingdom, and The Republican Kingdom of Spain:

August 29th, 1910;
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With the capture of the Austro-Hungarian Capital of Vienna, the Kaiser has effectively seized the Arch-Duke by the balls, and commands him to meet at Council in the Capitol Building of Vienna, along with all major powers of Europe.

Lukas Hoffman, Representative of the Might Kaiser.

Aug 29, 2012 at 08:41PM EDT
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Count Lionel wrote:

Ottoman Empire (WE:0)(TL:1911)
>Serbia accepts an alliance offer.
>Bosnia denies right-of-way on the grounds that they do not exist.
>Romania refuses right-of-way.
>Bulgaria refuses right-of-way.
>Bulgaria is overrun.
>Minor victory against Austro-Hungarian forces.
>Naval defense in the Aegean is lackluster at best.
>Land defense in Anatolia is barely competent.
>Military organization on both fronts is competent.
German Empire (WE:0)(TL:1910)
>Italy begrudgingly accepts an alliance offer.
>Austro-Hungarian forces are overrun.
Austria-Hungary (WE:0)(TL:1911)
>The military fails to maintain order in a three front war.
>The naval attack in the Aegean barely succeeds.
>Austrian troops succeed in landing in Turkey.
Russian Empire (WE:0)(TL:1911)
>A victory is achieved in Austria-Hungary, but little land is gained.
Spain (WE:1)(TL:1910)
>No progress is made in reclaiming Austro-Hungarian lands.
>Land defense in Hungary is competent. The Russians are halted.
United Kingdom NPC (WE:0)(TL:1911)
France NPC (WE:0)(TL:1911)
Italy NPC (WE:2)(TL:1910)
>A victory against Switzerland is just barely achieved.
>Switzerland is annexed entirely.

NOOO SWITZERLAND

Aug 29, 2012 at 08:44PM EDT
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Captain Douglas J Falcon wrote:

NOOO SWITZERLAND

fuck yo cheese

Aug 29, 2012 at 08:50PM EDT
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(The Coat of Arms has been changed to reflect the relative time period. Also because this one looks cool.)
A message to the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire

August 29th, 1911.
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Sultan of the Ottoman Empire,

Our border personnel have taken notice of the increased border guard and defense ships scouring the Black Sea. We presume this is because you feel the need to watch for any suspicious or military activity.

But let me assure you, the Czardom has no quarrel with the Ottoman Empire, and we do not wish to invade your land.

Additionally, your aid in the invasion of Austria-Hungary has helped us greatly with the assault, and for that we thank you. An action, such as your attack on Austria-Hungary, that favours the Russian Empire and her allies will be met with thanks and reward, not scorn and retribution.


Aug 29, 2012 at 08:55PM EDT
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<OOC:>

>Bosnia denies right-of-way on the grounds that they do not exist.

Hmmm, I must have meant Montenegro. Could we have a better-labelled map? I can’t seem to find any two maps that agree on what countries are between Greece and Austro-Hungary, much less one that matches the game map. Romania is in purple, the former state of Bulgaria is now of course in pink, and Serbia is teal, but what about the rest? Are the three countries bordering the Adriatic on the east Greece, Albania, and Montenegro (from bottom to top)? And the three countries nestled between Germany and France are The Netherlands, Belgium, and Luxembourg, right? And does the red color mean that the island of Kıbrıs is under control of the British Empire?

</OOC:>

Response to the Kaiser’s proposed summit meeting in Vienna

W e thank the Kaiser for suggesting these talks. Clearly this is a volatile time for Europe and Asia Minor. Because of the military-political climate in the area, while we hope this meeting will occur, we will not be sending high-ranking members of the Ottoman government, but will rather send back our Austrian ambassador along with his staff. Hüseyin Hilmi Pasha has been given permission to speak on behalf of the Sultan in these matters as he is already well-respected among many of the Austrians, is fluent in French, German, Turkish, and Arabic, and of course because we have heard that you Europeans have a “thing” for Lesbians.

To the Czar of Russia, regarding our mutual border

T hank you for your patience in this matter, as we were foolish in employing military maneuvers that could have easily been mistaken for hostility without clarifying our intent to you. We are in agreement that there is no quarrel between our great Empires, and neither do we have any wishes to invade your land. Our intention was only to keep watch over all of our borders, as it is clear that the treacherous Austrians may resort to any means to grab land. Should they have been successful in invading deep into Romanian or Russian lands, we wanted to be ready to meet that threat as well. What with Austrian forces having already taken a small excursion into our lands, we welcome Russia to take similar precautions, as it is unknown what extent of advantage it would afford the Austrians to gain access to Чёрное мо́рe. Clearly, this implies a mutual need to keep a close watch on Romania.

M ay the blessings of Allah be upon the Czar and his family! We foresee a long and prosperous reign for you, and wish to continue existing side-by-side in harmony far into the foreseeable future. Be assured that the Ottoman Empire will not allow Europe to use her as a footstool!

                       Devlet-i Ebed-müddet!

                        الله أكبر

P.S. Speaking of which, we send this message along with a gift for you that we hope will help you to remember our friendship, as we always remember and value yours.

<OOC> Actions:
> In the event of Germany’s summit proceeding and a temporary ceasefire being declared, Ottoman troops will not push further into Austro-Hungary, nor will they attack occupying troops on the Aegean coast unless provoked. With no ceasefire, troops continue to push into Austro-Hungarian territory, not interfering with Russian troops, and available troops will push the invaders into the Aegean.
> Regardless of outcome of the summit, troops will be pulled from the east to assist with whatever situation they find there. A small number of troops with be left behind to continue watching the Black Sea and Russian border.
> Also regardless of the summit, Romania is to be given an unofficial warning that with any provocation whatsoever, Ottoman troops have been given orders to respond by invading Romania, moving as far east as 100 km from Bucharest.
> Naval forces are to maintain current positions with investigation into how forces managed to infiltrate our shores and reformulate strategies to avoid further incursions.

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Aug 30, 2012 at 04:50AM EDT
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((@Brucker: All of your assumptions regarding those nations are correct. For further help, minor nations ingame are as follows: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Portugal, Romania, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Albania, Greece, and Persia. Producing labels for this map would be a tad bit difficult to manage while still editing under and around them, but here is a map with everything I could possibly think of labeling. The Balkans are further still identified with red borders. I mostly based my map on this one, which is actually from 1914, and not 1910.))

((EDIT: This map is also useful.))

Last edited Aug 30, 2012 at 12:16PM EDT
Aug 30, 2012 at 11:53AM EDT
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(The negotiations will start soon. I think. I’m not entirely sure how it’s going to work, but it will work. Maybe. Somehow.)

Aug 31, 2012 at 11:40AM EDT
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((I did not post yesterday because only the Sultan has actions yet confirmed. I will not stall for another day, so these negotiations should happen swiftly or not at all. Remember that since Germany controls the capital, they can do whatever they want with Austro-Hungarian lands on their own terms without negotiations.))

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Aug 31, 2012 at 02:30PM EDT
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HEAR THIS GENTLEMEN.

The Summit of Vienna is now in session, all in attendance are applicable for the floor, save for the Austro-Hungarian state. First order of business, the Kaiser’s demands of Austria-Hungary. The demands are the territories as follows: Bosnia, Austria, Croatia-Slavonia, Carniola, Bohemia, Moravia, Tyrol, Silesia. The Kaiser is not responsible for territory under the influence of Russia and the discussion of such will remain separate. The floor is now open.


>Halt Hostilities as Cease-Fire
>Attend Vienna Summit

Aug 31, 2012 at 05:54PM EDT
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The Russian Empire is now in attendance to the Summit of Vienna

Kaiser Cale of Germany,

The Czar requests that a strip of land running through Austria-Hungary be given to the Russian Empire. This strip will connect the Russian Empire’s current borders (including recently conquered territories that hitherto belonged to the former Austro-Hungarian state) to at least a few of the westernmost provinces of former Austria-Hungary’s borders. The goal of this is to allow Russia practical and convenient access to the Adriatic Sea, and, subsequently, the Mediterranean Sea. Reasons for this include easier trade, faster speed with which diplomats can ride seafaring vessels to conferences, conventions, and summits, and, in the case of a war with western European nations, the ability to strike back quickly via the easily-navigated Mediterranean Sea.

Please put this land request in your consideration, Kaiser, as such territory would be very helpful to Russia and her allies.

A possible configuration of these territories is shown below. You may change this configuration if you wish, but the same basic shape shown in the below diagram would harbor the most benefit for our nation:


>Halt forces in Austria-Hungary, and bring some of the troops and equipment back to Russia so they can be held in reserve or put to other duties
>Deploy a batch of ships to the Black Sea to watch the Ottoman border, as well as the Ottoman defensive ships

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Aug 31, 2012 at 11:39PM EDT
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Piano wrote:

The Russian Empire is now in attendance to the Summit of Vienna

Kaiser Cale of Germany,

The Czar requests that a strip of land running through Austria-Hungary be given to the Russian Empire. This strip will connect the Russian Empire’s current borders (including recently conquered territories that hitherto belonged to the former Austro-Hungarian state) to at least a few of the westernmost provinces of former Austria-Hungary’s borders. The goal of this is to allow Russia practical and convenient access to the Adriatic Sea, and, subsequently, the Mediterranean Sea. Reasons for this include easier trade, faster speed with which diplomats can ride seafaring vessels to conferences, conventions, and summits, and, in the case of a war with western European nations, the ability to strike back quickly via the easily-navigated Mediterranean Sea.

Please put this land request in your consideration, Kaiser, as such territory would be very helpful to Russia and her allies.

A possible configuration of these territories is shown below. You may change this configuration if you wish, but the same basic shape shown in the below diagram would harbor the most benefit for our nation:


>Halt forces in Austria-Hungary, and bring some of the troops and equipment back to Russia so they can be held in reserve or put to other duties
>Deploy a batch of ships to the Black Sea to watch the Ottoman border, as well as the Ottoman defensive ships

After some thought, the Kaiser has given an alternate version of the Czar’s Proposal, done so in the interest that German Territories not be caught between the Russian Land Bridge:

We are in hopes that his Holiness the Sultan will see fit to cede his Austrian claims, and allow Russia a fair grip into the Mediterranean, long denied as we’ve all seen. The benefit to one is a benefit to all, Austria-Hungary Withholding. (Chortle).

Sep 01, 2012 at 12:32PM EDT
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The Sultan will be amenable to cede territory taken in southern Austria with the caveat that the Austrians are removed from the Adriatic coast.

Sep 01, 2012 at 01:19PM EDT
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Brucker wrote:

The Sultan will be amenable to cede territory taken in southern Austria with the caveat that the Austrians are removed from the Adriatic coast.

I, the Emperor-King Alejandro A. Alejandro, accept these terms as they have been presented.

Sep 01, 2012 at 01:33PM EDT
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Then the terms are thus presented:

If any man present would allot a change, or cede their territory, speak now or he may hold his tongue indefinitely.

Sep 01, 2012 at 01:42PM EDT
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Cale wrote:

Then the terms are thus presented:

If any man present would allot a change, or cede their territory, speak now or he may hold his tongue indefinitely.

I request that the entirety of Austria-Hungary be removed, lest the formed king breed a rebellion that may be hard to handle. We know that Spain has supplied Austria-Hungary with military wares since the beginning of this war, and they can certainly do it again.

If Austria-Hungary is allowed to stay a nation, in any form, I assure you that there will be troubles.

Sep 01, 2012 at 02:02PM EDT
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Brucker wrote:

The Sultan will be amenable to cede territory taken in southern Austria with the caveat that the Austrians are removed from the Adriatic coast.

Sultan of the Ottoman Empire,

The Czar thanks you greatly for this ceding of land to the Russian Empire, as it reinforces the constitution of our land bridge. As thanks for such a generous gift, we have shipped one ton of assorted candies to your home.

P.S. the orange-chocolate ones are kind of yucky, eat with caution!

Sep 01, 2012 at 02:09PM EDT
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I, His Holy Hip-Hop-Happenin Broseph of the Spanish Empire of Awesome, request that Austria-Hungary be allowed to continue as a nation as a show of good faith towards its citizens, if the two f you take all that land, the people will be sent into a flurry of rebellion, it would be better to leave that small area to its own devices and watch for any rebellious activity. That would both grant you land, and keep rebellion to a minimum.

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Sep 01, 2012 at 02:12PM EDT
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The Kaiser has decided to side with the Czar on this matter. If 7xH Wishes to see Austria-Hungary continue, then he must supply territory for the Emperor King himself.

Sep 01, 2012 at 02:31PM EDT
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Cale wrote:

The Kaiser has decided to side with the Czar on this matter. If 7xH Wishes to see Austria-Hungary continue, then he must supply territory for the Emperor King himself.

Cale, I suggest you change your wording. Currently, it might sound as if you’re encouraging Spain to commit acts of war in the name of gaining Austria-Hungary some territory.

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Sep 01, 2012 at 02:43PM EDT
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It is my belief that completely removing Austro-Hungary from the map would be unwise, and I am sure that the Sultan would concur. Although I know that the Spanish Emperor has a vested interest in keeping his ally in power, his words are nonetheless wise. Complete loss of homeland will no doubt foment insurrection among his former subjects. I would suggest that it might be better to keep Austria alive as a sovereign state with no military, and the surrounding states of Germany and Russia would pledge to protect it so long as it makes no hostile moves. It may also serve Europe well to divide the Empire into smaller areas, such as a kingdom Austria in the west and a separate kingdom of Hungaria; perhaps even a nation of Slovakia towards the north.

This is my advice on the matter. If the powers of Europe prefer to remove Austro-Hungary entirely, the Ottoman Empire will not agree to this action, but we would not protest, either.

Sep 01, 2012 at 02:52PM EDT
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While Emperor Alejandro has made some, err, unwise decisions in the past, do not doubt that he will use his status as a continued state against us. There is much a nation can do without armed forces, and his placement within our borders can open up many weak spots.

It is for the preservation of Germany and Russia, and furthermore the preservation of European liberty as a whole, that I highly suggest removing Austria-Hungary.

The possible rebellion sparked by such an action may have a solution: The locals can keep their cultures, their language, their history, and so on. If we do not infringe upon their heritage, and do not oppress them, I see no reason for them to rebel. This remedy, of course, is up for consideration, and not final.

Sep 01, 2012 at 03:05PM EDT
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Piano wrote:

Cale, I suggest you change your wording. Currently, it might sound as if you’re encouraging Spain to commit acts of war in the name of gaining Austria-Hungary some territory.

The Kaiser has once again seen fit to side with The Czar on this matter. The Austro-Hungarian State will be removed, and the Austro-Hungarian people will assimilate at their own accord, provided matters are kept orderly and peaceful.

Sep 01, 2012 at 03:34PM EDT
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