At that point all they like in you is your blind dedication to you. After that wears off, you’re done for really. Nice guys get no where cause they see through your games, at least with awful guys you know exactly what you are getting into. I’ve never been in the friend zone, but that’s cause I’ve never been assertive enough to even attempt asking someone out, so if I was there it didn’t even matter I was there, I was my biggest enemy. This still remains the truth, even though I’ve been dating the same girl going on 3 years now. I never asked her out, we kinda just happened and we were best friends at the time and still are. If it’s meant to be, it’ll happen.
By the way, this is a girl that told me quote, “I’m sorry ‘Who am I?’, but I couldn’t have sex with you even if you were the last guy on earth and it was just to repopulate. I just couldn’t. You’re a nice guy and all, but I just couldn’t do it.” She never said why she couldn’t, just that she couldn’t. She’s agreed she’s eaten her words now. But she remembers it that she said date me, but I wouldn’t remember it if it was date, cause I wouldn’t have cared in the slightest.