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I’ll start a new page with this image (created by Cyber6x):

That image shows why we’re still accepting Brand New Members creating articles. We rather have 10 deadpools and one good article made by a BNM, than 11 articles that wouldn’t have been there to begin with, leaving us in the dark about the actual good article.

So if you have a suggestion about Brand New Members, be sure that image doesn’t answer it first.

Last edited Mar 15, 2012 at 08:59AM EDT
Mar 15, 2012 at 08:59AM EDT
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i love that image and am really excited people keep using it. props forever to cyber6x.

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Mar 15, 2012 at 12:53PM EDT
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Chris wrote:

Wall posts and comments on entries both go under the Comments section in our profiles.

OK. Thanks for the clarification.

Mar 16, 2012 at 12:43AM EDT

amanda b. wrote:

i love that image and am really excited people keep using it. props forever to cyber6x.

I’m really glad people keep reusing it as well!

Anyway, I know it’s been suggested before but how about “You have X new wall posts” resets after visiting your profile instead of after 4 days? It gets a little confusing on whether to check your profile when the counter is unreliable.

Mar 16, 2012 at 03:22AM EDT
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RandomMan wrote:

I’ll start a new page with this image (created by Cyber6x):

That image shows why we’re still accepting Brand New Members creating articles. We rather have 10 deadpools and one good article made by a BNM, than 11 articles that wouldn’t have been there to begin with, leaving us in the dark about the actual good article.

So if you have a suggestion about Brand New Members, be sure that image doesn’t answer it first.

if a guy don’t make the entry and if it’s really a meme there will be another guy that is not bnm to do it
so yes you can restrict the article creation

Mar 25, 2012 at 09:30PM EDT
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mandrac wrote:

if a guy don’t make the entry and if it’s really a meme there will be another guy that is not bnm to do it
so yes you can restrict the article creation

That doesn’t negate the fact that these brand new members beat us to it and brought more attention to not yet documented meme (usually) long before it would of been made by another member. This also allows for a longer debate / suggestions / criticisms about the material, which is a good thing for an uprising meme.

Mar 25, 2012 at 09:48PM EDT
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Cyber6x wrote:

That doesn’t negate the fact that these brand new members beat us to it and brought more attention to not yet documented meme (usually) long before it would of been made by another member. This also allows for a longer debate / suggestions / criticisms about the material, which is a good thing for an uprising meme.

Also, people should remember that the Brand New Members are the single largest source of entry creation, but the vast majority of the work most users do for entries is simply editing.

Mar 26, 2012 at 09:19AM EDT
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The BNM thing isn’t that much of a problem.
YOU and ONLY YOU cause them to go trending, and it takes a total of about 1 minute for a mod to deadpool it. It’s not like we only have 100 slots for entries and the deadpooled entries are wasting space.

Mar 26, 2012 at 04:02PM EDT
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i think most of bnm that are posting entries are trolls like this one
http://knowyourmeme.com/users/noam/editorships

look in activity
Commented on y u hatin.

u mad bro?
about 4 hours ago

Wrote on FancyReuniclus’ wall.

u mad bro?
about 4 hours ago

Wrote on mandrac’s wall.

u mad bro?
about 4 hours ago

…..

just ban ip this guy and maybe you will ban at once 4 or 5 other acount he made to troll

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Mar 28, 2012 at 09:05PM EDT
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mandrac wrote:

i think most of bnm that are posting entries are trolls like this one
http://knowyourmeme.com/users/noam/editorships

look in activity
Commented on y u hatin.

u mad bro?
about 4 hours ago

Wrote on FancyReuniclus’ wall.

u mad bro?
about 4 hours ago

Wrote on mandrac’s wall.

u mad bro?
about 4 hours ago

…..

just ban ip this guy and maybe you will ban at once 4 or 5 other acount he made to troll

Saying most BNMs are trolls is obviously incorrect. Also, one example of a BNM being a troll does not prove a point.


Let’s just drop the BNM thing. There are a lot of users who have progressed far past BNM who continue to make unconfirmable articles.
For example, Paul Patrick Bandicoot. 65 entires. >5 dupes. Most in the deadpool.

Mar 29, 2012 at 11:26AM EDT
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MDFification wrote:

Saying most BNMs are trolls is obviously incorrect. Also, one example of a BNM being a troll does not prove a point.


Let’s just drop the BNM thing. There are a lot of users who have progressed far past BNM who continue to make unconfirmable articles.
For example, Paul Patrick Bandicoot. 65 entires. >5 dupes. Most in the deadpool.

^^ spot on

Mar 29, 2012 at 11:53AM EDT
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I’ve noticed something for a few days, but I didn’t want to make a thread about it, and I didn’t think it would fit here. But regardless:

What’s up with the most recent post times on the forums? Few of them are accurate from what I see, and currently, none of the most recent posts times are less than “11 hours ago.” Also, I did recently change the time on my laptop because AM and PM are not the same thing, apparently…but there were some odd and illogical times before that too. For example, some times said “about an hour ago” but ones prior to that post said times before 44 minutes (because anything after 44 minutes becomes “about an hour ago.”

It’s mostly annoying, but now I can’t tell what’s been posted recently to see what’s going on. It’s mostly just guess-and-check now.


Example: I see this post as being posted about a day ago. The one above me is 24 hours ago. I posted this within the last 15 minutes. Is that just me?

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Mar 29, 2012 at 01:17PM EDT
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where do you see that verbose? can you screenshot it? i’m seeing about x hours/days ago throughout the forum pages.

Mar 29, 2012 at 01:20PM EDT
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amanda b. wrote:

where do you see that verbose? can you screenshot it? i’m seeing about x hours/days ago throughout the forum pages.

I see this everywhere. Even on the page showing all of the most recent forum posts.


Check out the “Guys, I need some help.” thread. It was posted 16 hours ago (which may be right.) But the most recent post by Brucker is “a day ago.”
 
 
I’ve got to get to class. Maybe it’s just something I’m seeing. Or I’ve gone nutty. Both are equally as possible.

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Mar 29, 2012 at 01:27PM EDT
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I have been getting weird a weird time glitch also.
Basically, as soon as EST goes into PM, all the times flop.
ex. “1 minute- almost 1 hour ago” becomes “24 hours ago”, “1 hour ago” becomes “23 hours ago”, “2 hours ago” becomes “22 hours ago”, ect. “Days Ago” doesn’t seem to be affected, but still.

At first I thought it was just my device, which uses Military Time, but now that Verbose has something…

Mar 29, 2012 at 08:24PM EDT
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Suggestion: video size policy
I’ve been wondering why KYM keep their unbeautiful policy for YouTube video embedding.

Now, YouTube Embed Player hides the player controls automatically when its frame size ratio is 4:3 and 16:9 . On the other hand, KYM’s style guide still recommend 425px for the width of video player in the entries, and staffs use this video size even for wide-size video. But, “425” isn’t the multiple number of “16”. So, “dead space” are occured in the both sides, and it makes actual video size more smaller.

Like this: 425×246px

The best way is to set 480×270px to the width of wide size player. the video area of this size is nearly similar to that of SD videos default size 420×315px. AND, I’m sure the layout of KYM entry can allow that size for objects.

480×270px

The better way is to choose 432×243px or 416×234px for them, which are nearly the same width to KYM’s recommended size. Even in these cases, the player controls hides automatically.

432×243px

If KYM wouldn’t change their policy, add 20px to the video height of YouTube embed code to solve the dead space. eg: 420×243->420×263px, 425×246px->425×266px

420×263px

425×266px

Regarding two-column videos, we don’t have the standard width for them, and I don’t think that 300px, now used in many entries by staffs, is suitable. Changing the setting of iframe padding in CSS to less than 9px and allowing 320px to the width for 2 column videos is the best way.

Now I usually set 304px to the width of 2 column videos, and set 304×171px to wide size videos.

Of course, I know KYM wants us to watch videos in the video galleries for their business.

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Apr 13, 2012 at 11:08AM EDT
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@Mona_jpn

Regarding the two-column videos:

Making a column of two vids with a width of 320 will place them below each other.
640 of vids, plus the white spice, is too wide for KYM entries.

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Apr 13, 2012 at 11:48AM EDT
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RandomMan wrote:

@Mona_jpn

Regarding the two-column videos:

Making a column of two vids with a width of 320 will place them below each other.
640 of vids, plus the white spice, is too wide for KYM entries.

I know. that’s because “margin” (sorry, this is not “padding”) for iframe elements in CSS is set to 10px. If this is changed into “10px 8px”, the layout looks like this. Red is borderline of the article area (width=692px). Upper video size is 320×180px (16:9), and lower video size is 320×240px (4:3).

I don’t think this is too wide.

Apr 13, 2012 at 01:31PM EDT
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I have an idea: stop hiding posts of users who have deactivated their accounts.
I understand for people who have been banned. The mods need that in case they’re banning a gore/porn spammer. But for people who just quit the site, it doesn’t make sense.
I know the data’s still kept on the server because the mods can view it by editing their post.
Hiding the posts of deactivated users means that in the case of our longer-running threads, i.e. This Cheeto and The Internet Can Now Find Stars, lose a lot of artwork and in the case of the Cheeto no longer make much sense.

Apr 15, 2012 at 10:58AM EDT
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MDFification wrote:

I have an idea: stop hiding posts of users who have deactivated their accounts.
I understand for people who have been banned. The mods need that in case they’re banning a gore/porn spammer. But for people who just quit the site, it doesn’t make sense.
I know the data’s still kept on the server because the mods can view it by editing their post.
Hiding the posts of deactivated users means that in the case of our longer-running threads, i.e. This Cheeto and The Internet Can Now Find Stars, lose a lot of artwork and in the case of the Cheeto no longer make much sense.

Also, if you liked the person who quit, then losing access to everything they wrote is needlessly sad.

Apr 15, 2012 at 02:46PM EDT
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MDFification wrote:

I have an idea: stop hiding posts of users who have deactivated their accounts.
I understand for people who have been banned. The mods need that in case they’re banning a gore/porn spammer. But for people who just quit the site, it doesn’t make sense.
I know the data’s still kept on the server because the mods can view it by editing their post.
Hiding the posts of deactivated users means that in the case of our longer-running threads, i.e. This Cheeto and The Internet Can Now Find Stars, lose a lot of artwork and in the case of the Cheeto no longer make much sense.

I fully agree and I don’t know why this is still done.

Apr 15, 2012 at 04:42PM EDT

Chris wrote:

I fully agree and I don’t know why this is still done.

Perhaps I can help with this.

The other day I talked to Don about a function in the IRC we discussed before. That when we delete a spammer, their threads get completely deleted (instead of just the posts they made).

In that way, deleting a spammer is the same thing as deactivating an account. Only difference is that the spammer gets a perma IP ban together with it.


So basically, the effect of both functions needs to be changed. Deleting a spammer removes everything, whereas deactivating an account needs to keep everything (besides the account).

But we have to take the intentions of the account with it as well. Perhaps the person wants his posts removed. So maybe when an account gets deactivated, we add the option that lets us choose whether to keep or remove their posts.

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Apr 15, 2012 at 04:59PM EDT
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We do not allow users to delete their posts 30 minutes after they have posted, for the sake of avoiding trolling.

So then why do we still give users the option to delete ALL of their posts with the deactivate account feture? It still allows Trolling!

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Apr 18, 2012 at 12:59AM EDT
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My idea (which RM approves of) is that when requesting deletion, there would be a little checkbox saying something like “Check here if you want your posts deleted as well”.

Apr 18, 2012 at 07:07PM EDT
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Philip J. Fry wrote:

My idea (which RM approves of) is that when requesting deletion, there would be a little checkbox saying something like “Check here if you want your posts deleted as well”.

Simple yet perfect.

Only problem remains that the current deactivation option doesn’t allow posts to remain. So that has to be fixed first. But this is a great idea nonetheless.

Apr 18, 2012 at 07:16PM EDT
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Philip J. Fry wrote:

My idea (which RM approves of) is that when requesting deletion, there would be a little checkbox saying something like “Check here if you want your posts deleted as well”.

Perhaps you could have more than one option:

What would you like to delete (check all that apply):

_ Forum posts
_ Comments
_ Images
_ Videos
_ All of the above

Also, when a post has been quoted by someone else (like I am doing here with Philip J. Fry) and the post being quoted is later deleted, should we delete the quote?

Apr 18, 2012 at 10:28PM EDT
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Platus wrote:

Perhaps you could have more than one option:

What would you like to delete (check all that apply):

_ Forum posts
_ Comments
_ Images
_ Videos
_ All of the above

Also, when a post has been quoted by someone else (like I am doing here with Philip J. Fry) and the post being quoted is later deleted, should we delete the quote?

I don’t think removing the quote when the post has been deleted will work. Showing the deleted quote message, we know the post was directed to the now deleted other post. If we remove the quote when the post gets deleted, it would become a standalone post. The message it contains might seem really awkward in context to the thread, possibly making no sense at all and make the user who posted it look like an idiot.


As for your deletion idea, it gave me another idea.

Can mods with image and/or video powers be given the option to instantly remove all images and/or videos posted by a certain member? This would safe a lot of work when dealing with a member who only made an account to post porn/gore, as we don’t have to delete every image/video seperately anymore.

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Apr 19, 2012 at 05:07AM EDT
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Platus wrote:

Perhaps you could have more than one option:

What would you like to delete (check all that apply):

_ Forum posts
_ Comments
_ Images
_ Videos
_ All of the above

Also, when a post has been quoted by someone else (like I am doing here with Philip J. Fry) and the post being quoted is later deleted, should we delete the quote?

Removal of images and videos should never be an option for self deletion.

Why, you ask?

We are a documentation site. We should never give our users the power to instantaneously remove their own contributions whenever they feel like it, screwing up the site as it is.

For example, what if I decided to leave and chose to delete images and videos of mine? Well there goes 3000 images and hundreds of videos from the database.

I personally don’t even think they should really even be given the choice for any of their content being deleted. I think that all their forum posts, comments, images, and videos should remain after they are deactivated.

My reasoning is that we are a documentation site, and the deletion of any such information is the deletion of important information that could be used for documenting internet phenomena, such as meme research posts, posts on entries, or even meme posts in JFF that can help show and outline memes and their lifespans (I certainly know that I’ve used the JFF part of the forums to pinpoint the lifespan of some memes before).

Apr 19, 2012 at 07:35AM EDT

Chris wrote:

Removal of images and videos should never be an option for self deletion.

Why, you ask?

We are a documentation site. We should never give our users the power to instantaneously remove their own contributions whenever they feel like it, screwing up the site as it is.

For example, what if I decided to leave and chose to delete images and videos of mine? Well there goes 3000 images and hundreds of videos from the database.

I personally don’t even think they should really even be given the choice for any of their content being deleted. I think that all their forum posts, comments, images, and videos should remain after they are deactivated.

My reasoning is that we are a documentation site, and the deletion of any such information is the deletion of important information that could be used for documenting internet phenomena, such as meme research posts, posts on entries, or even meme posts in JFF that can help show and outline memes and their lifespans (I certainly know that I’ve used the JFF part of the forums to pinpoint the lifespan of some memes before).

I agree with this. Even forum posts have their usage in the documentation of internet phenomenons.
If we were banning a user, then yes, it’s a necessary evil. But for regular contributors it seems harmful.
Still, I have no idea how we might achieve this.

Apr 19, 2012 at 09:36AM EDT
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I purpose that there should be an option to the karma system that shows everyone who up voted/down voted your post on threads. it would make it harder to mindlessly bandwagon against a post and would revel karma trolls which lurk on threads.

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Apr 21, 2012 at 12:59AM EDT
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There are plenty of things James needs to spend time on. The Karma system, which for the most part works perfectly, is not one of them.
Karma trolling is easy to reverse. Simply upvote everything.
There are issues with karma, for example massive-upvote spam as seen in the pony thread. But karma is dependent of users. We don’t need the system changed to account for a lack of maturity among a few users.

Apr 21, 2012 at 11:10AM EDT
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You guys know about the comment reply system on YouTube right?

Why don’t we adapt that for KYM as well. I’m sick of using @X to reply.

Apr 24, 2012 at 10:48AM EDT

User Name wrote:

You guys know about the comment reply system on YouTube right?

Why don’t we adapt that for KYM as well. I’m sick of using @X to reply.

Relating to this, It would make for sense if when you quote a post that has been quoted to something, that should be shown as well.

This could also cause spamming problems, which is why there should be a, “show quoted post” button somewhere on the quoted post that has the other quoted post. (Wow that’s a mouthful)

Of course, this would also be a pain in the ass to make happen; which is why this suggestion won’t probably go through.

May 04, 2012 at 09:40PM EDT

Relating to the Filename threads entry, could we have it so that when scroll over images in the image gallery, it displays the title?

Currently it only looks like this regardless of where you view it-

How about when you’re in the ‘Recent images’ section or gallery of an entry it comes up like this? This would prevent a bit of redundancy of continually telling you the name of the entry you’re on.-

However, if you’re browsing the most recent images or by a tag, why not display all three bits of info so people also know what entry it came from? -

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May 08, 2012 at 12:59AM EDT
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Nikolaki8 wrote:

Relating to this, It would make for sense if when you quote a post that has been quoted to something, that should be shown as well.

This could also cause spamming problems, which is why there should be a, “show quoted post” button somewhere on the quoted post that has the other quoted post. (Wow that’s a mouthful)

Of course, this would also be a pain in the ass to make happen; which is why this suggestion won’t probably go through.

YouTube uses the ‘show quoted post’ button, so it’s what I basically said. But it would be a pain, a major change at that. Even if it passes, it may not work out.

May 08, 2012 at 08:16AM EDT

How about a button you can press in an entry you are a editor of to request a mod to look it over? (Like how a suggestion box use to work)

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May 11, 2012 at 05:11PM EDT
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How about a KYM app. There’s a Memebase app, Lolcats app, and etc. A lot of people have smart phones and viewing KYM on a browser doesn’t work so well. Me, on my part have an Android phone and it’s hard to click post or comment or even submit. There should be an app for this site. I mean there’s an app for almost everything… Why not KYM?

May 11, 2012 at 06:00PM EDT
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Suggestion: Bot (probably, KYM have already discussed about this.)

I think KYM needs a bot account for maintaining content’s tags and descriptions (note and origin) .

As you know, tags and notes which are especially in image and video pages don’t work effectively, because many of them were uploaded before those features were added and nobody cares those features so much. Moreover, we still don’t have the common views about what we should add to tag lists and what we should describe in the “origin” section. So, those in many content are empty or random, and many contents can’t be related parallelly by the tag feature. And, this is also the reason why “Similar Entry” feature doesn’t work well.

I sometimes find that staff do this manually, but it’s not effective way. Like Wikipedia, it’s much better way for upgrading the user experience and reducing maintainance cost to run a bot adding/reducing tags and descriptions in bulk.

Not only staffs, Database mods and Sr. mods are also deserve to have the right to run the bot. I think so.

May 13, 2012 at 11:13AM EDT
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Entry galleries should have their own view counts – separate ones between image and video. Since gallery views don’t count towards the totals, it would give us a better idea of how popular a given meme is.

Jun 02, 2012 at 12:15AM EDT
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Natsuru Springfield wrote:

How about a button you can press in an entry you are a editor of to request a mod to look it over? (Like how a suggestion box use to work)

I already get enough mail from editorship requests and other stuff. Remember mods receive all the requests and suggestions, even two for the entries we’re an editor of. Not really in a mood to have that increase. Not to forget BNM’s with shitty entries can also click that button. Plus the risk of getting it spammed by the impatient users and/or trolls.

If you want to request a review, just jump in the IRC and ask me if I’m there, I don’t mind doing a quick check. I’m sure other mods won’t mind as well. If you have a mod as an editor on your entry, just send that mod a PM. Or just use the designated thread.


Plus agree with Platus’ suggestion. Would love to have that.

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Jun 03, 2012 at 01:38PM EDT
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It would be great if you could add a note to an image or video while uploading it – just like how you can add tags. Sometimes I want to include a link to the source, which right now means waiting for the upload to run and then adding it in the comments. Since I can only post a comment every 30 seconds, sourcing a series of images can be annoyingly time-consuming.

Jun 21, 2012 at 08:01PM EDT
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Platus wrote:

It would be great if you could add a note to an image or video while uploading it – just like how you can add tags. Sometimes I want to include a link to the source, which right now means waiting for the upload to run and then adding it in the comments. Since I can only post a comment every 30 seconds, sourcing a series of images can be annoyingly time-consuming.

We already have that.

Just click edit on the image after you uploaded it, that screen should appear.

Side Note: I just clicked the top image in the image stream for this example. Having image moderator powers, it allowed me to just use someone else’s image. For others this should only work on their own images.

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Jun 22, 2012 at 05:50PM EDT
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RandomMan wrote:

We already have that.

Just click edit on the image after you uploaded it, that screen should appear.

Side Note: I just clicked the top image in the image stream for this example. Having image moderator powers, it allowed me to just use someone else’s image. For others this should only work on their own images.

But I meant that you should have a screen like that pop as part of the uploading process, that way you can add your notes at the same time as you are tagging and titling the image.

Jun 22, 2012 at 06:48PM EDT
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Platus wrote:

But I meant that you should have a screen like that pop as part of the uploading process, that way you can add your notes at the same time as you are tagging and titling the image.

I’ve noticed that too. It seems odd that you can’t tag, source, and upload at the same time, and I’m not quite sure why you have to edit the picture every time you’d like to properly tag it. I think it should just come up when you’re uploading it. Feel free to share if you have a potential reason for that though.

If anything, then I think it might create more untagged images. I have a lot of tabs up, and if I go to another tab while I’m waiting for it to upload so I can tag them image, I may forget about tagging it, and just close it when I’m done.

Jun 22, 2012 at 07:12PM EDT
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Suggestion: CSS for multi-column layout.

If we have this, It’s quite convenient for us when we add additional information or notes to images/videos in articles. And, I’m sure that KYM’s web designers know that table elements shouldn’t be used for page designs. KYM isn’t a fossil that remains in geocities or tripod.

As a trial, I edited “notable examples” section in Crazy Live Report by CSS. Its source is:
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<style type=“text/css”>
<!--
.multicolumns {width:100%;} (container)
.multicolumns:after {display:block;content:“.”;visibility:hidden;width:0px; height:1px;clear:both;} (clearfix)
.two {width:50%;float:left;text-align:center;} (elements)
-->
</style>

<div class=“multicolumns”>
<div class=“two”>video
description</div>
.
.
.
</div>
----

For thee-column layout, add like this;

.three {width:33%;float:left;text-align:center;}

Of course, this is a draft editing, must be improved.

Add a jquery plugin that fixs floating element’s heights, it will work perfect.

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Jul 11, 2012 at 01:19PM EDT
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We should have something like the IRC, but a Video/Audio chat. I feel it may be just as fun (if not more) and make us feel like our “friends” are actually friends, because talking digital face to digital face makes a more personal connection.

Jul 22, 2012 at 12:46AM EDT
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Zach Dragon Rage wrote:

We should have something like the IRC, but a Video/Audio chat. I feel it may be just as fun (if not more) and make us feel like our “friends” are actually friends, because talking digital face to digital face makes a more personal connection.

I don’t know if that would be feasible, but it would be nice if the IRC were in a more prominent place – maybe set up like a widget.

Jul 22, 2012 at 01:01AM EDT
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how about inventing a way to block users from your wall?

Jul 23, 2012 at 07:58PM EDT
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