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Last posted Nov 29, 2010 at 10:39AM EST. Added Nov 25, 2010 at 12:24AM EST
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Good Morning, Evening, Afternoon.

I just want to point out that before kym existed to "Research" Memes, for the benefit of themselves (Jevvs) and Newfags (lrn2google). There is a place where memes are explained in great humourus detail.

It is called Encyclopedia Dramatica. Here's a Link for you, http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/ (NSFW)

Now before we shout "HURR WE ARE THE SAME, HURR THEY SELL SHIT TOO!", ED existed to document Memes on the 'net and the latest Drama. Sure they sell Memes too. But they don't do so to make a profit.

Every cent goes back into the site. Thats right. They do it for F-U-N and not profit. Infact, sometimes they lose money to keep this UNCENSORED wonderful bit of the net open.

And if your mommies and daddies think ED isn't for you, there is ED's SFW site http://www.whatport80.com/ It explains memes in a mormon approved way.

Think kym is better? Trust me. Suckling on the pacifier of pretend "Anonymous" will only make sites like 4chan, 711chan, 7chan, zerochan etc pretty much turn into hipster garbage sites. And they will eventually die. It's like being part of a gang that was nationwide, that had its original leaders jailed many years ago. And the new members have no idea why they make their gang signs… and what they represent.

This is why you keep on being ridiculed, raided, and raided some more. It will not stop. It will NEVER stop.

If you want to break free of your safe little plastic sand box and be spoon fed lies of what anonymous is, then use the resources I have provided to you. Sure, gore and CP is scary, but its a fact of life. So lurk! And be free! And don't ever, com back to kym, or any of its future clones!

Semper Dolosus!

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Compared to the previous anon who came by with an argument, you seem like a 5 year old digging in their own crap, wiping it on paper, and then declaring that it is the most amazing thing in the world.

Anon,

I am dissapoint.

I've been on ED several times, to research memes ALONE. The actually tend to go around the point and never really explain anything.

I.E.: ED = Fun(?), not informative. 4chan is more informative when it talks about its "Tits or GTFO lolololo"

I was wondering when you'd show up to voice your opinion, Pause. Though you've no doubt been here before under a different name.
KYM ≠ ED. Anonymous ≠ street gangs. Is this not the very essence of newfaggotry? Why you use this as the basis for your arguments I will never understand.
Developers need to eat too. Servers need bandwidth to work. Both of those things require money. Hence the ads and store. Sorry to say it, but websites can't be run on the almighty magical power of Anon and a dash of pixie dust.
Do you have proof that every cent made actually goes to hosting costs? If not, that's mere speculation and therefore not a valid basis for an argument.
If you have a problem with our family-friendly policy, then don't bother using the site. Nobody's forcing you to come here. If you don't like it, just stay on ED. You could just ignore KYM altogether and lose absolutely nothing. Your irrational actions only add validity to our criticisms.
You say you want to raid us continuously into the future? Fine. We'll just keep banning you and your mindless newfag minions.
I'm sorry to say, but gore, cp, shock imagery, etc do not shock or offend us. We're no different than you. We're just people messing around on the internet and when you're on the internet, you encounter shock imagery. This is expected. It's not scary. It's not traumatizing. It's just the reality of the situation. The fact that we (most of us, anyway) don't fap to it on a regular basis and want it plastered all over our website does not mean that we're somehow lesser than any anon.
And that's another issue I have with this. Why are anons placing themselves on pedestals? They know damn well that they're just nerds messing around on the internet and acting cool because they don't enter a name in the textbox when they make a post on a completely public imageboard. They're no better than anyone else and yet they act like they own the goddamn internet.

Tl;dr: We don't give a damn that you don't like our website. If you don't like it, get out.

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Compared to the previous anon who came by with an argument, you seem like a 5 year old digging in their own crap, wiping it on paper, and then declaring that it is the most amazing thing in the world.

Anon,

I am dissapoint.

Does nothing to counter-argue besides presenting a document you should of taken heed of.

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I've been on ED several times, to research memes ALONE. The actually tend to go around the point and never really explain anything.

I.E.: ED = Fun(?), not informative. 4chan is more informative when it talks about its "Tits or GTFO lolololo"

Like I said before. You may edit these article.

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I was wondering when you'd show up to voice your opinion, Pause. Though you've no doubt been here before under a different name.
KYM ≠ ED. Anonymous ≠ street gangs. Is this not the very essence of newfaggotry? Why you use this as the basis for your arguments I will never understand.
Developers need to eat too. Servers need bandwidth to work. Both of those things require money. Hence the ads and store. Sorry to say it, but websites can't be run on the almighty magical power of Anon and a dash of pixie dust.
Do you have proof that every cent made actually goes to hosting costs? If not, that's mere speculation and therefore not a valid basis for an argument.
If you have a problem with our family-friendly policy, then don't bother using the site. Nobody's forcing you to come here. If you don't like it, just stay on ED. You could just ignore KYM altogether and lose absolutely nothing. Your irrational actions only add validity to our criticisms.
You say you want to raid us continuously into the future? Fine. We'll just keep banning you and your mindless newfag minions.
I'm sorry to say, but gore, cp, shock imagery, etc do not shock or offend us. We're no different than you. We're just people messing around on the internet and when you're on the internet, you encounter shock imagery. This is expected. It's not scary. It's not traumatizing. It's just the reality of the situation. The fact that we (most of us, anyway) don't fap to it on a regular basis and want it plastered all over our website does not mean that we're somehow lesser than any anon.
And that's another issue I have with this. Why are anons placing themselves on pedestals? They know damn well that they're just nerds messing around on the internet and acting cool because they don't enter a name in the textbox when they make a post on a completely public imageboard. They're no better than anyone else and yet they act like they own the goddamn internet.

Tl;dr: We don't give a damn that you don't like our website. If you don't like it, get out.

1. I have actually never signed up here before.

2. I know that street gangs may not be the best analogy, but back then before Chanology, 711chan and 420chan were sharing an /i/ board that actually got things done. May not be street but in a diff. setting.

3. I could open up a website in my house and maintain it, free of charge other then paying the Internet bill. And this money comes from my regular Job. (Please don't tell me this site is your only income!)

4. I do actually. I handled the donations at a time far far way.

5. On the subject of "family friendly". It is most certainly required on corporate entities such as yourself to attract an unaware audience. Ignore KYM? Scientology wants to be ignored too. Look what happen to them.

6. I'm glad you are not offended. But that is still part of the culture you are weeding out in this little sandbox.

7. I don't lead anybody. I'm just a single voice here pointing out a better website for people to go to instead.

8. "No Better then anyone else". There are things we have done that have gone undocumented to protect ourselves.

pause wrote:

1. I have actually never signed up here before.

2. I know that street gangs may not be the best analogy, but back then before Chanology, 711chan and 420chan were sharing an /i/ board that actually got things done. May not be street but in a diff. setting.

3. I could open up a website in my house and maintain it, free of charge other then paying the Internet bill. And this money comes from my regular Job. (Please don't tell me this site is your only income!)

4. I do actually. I handled the donations at a time far far way.

5. On the subject of "family friendly". It is most certainly required on corporate entities such as yourself to attract an unaware audience. Ignore KYM? Scientology wants to be ignored too. Look what happen to them.

6. I'm glad you are not offended. But that is still part of the culture you are weeding out in this little sandbox.

7. I don't lead anybody. I'm just a single voice here pointing out a better website for people to go to instead.

8. "No Better then anyone else". There are things we have done that have gone undocumented to protect ourselves.

3. Well sorry for doubting that you had a server farm in your garage. KYM is a large website with a huge amount of traffic. It requires a little bit more funding than something you could throw together with some spare time, a computer, and a home broadband connection. Surely you're not just excluding this factor to make your point seem reasonable?
I don't make any money doing this. None of the mods do. Only staff does, and they aren't exclusively KYM staff members. Rocketboom employs them to work on both Rocketboom and KYM. And last I checked, they are not millionaires.
5. Corporate entities? Are you mistaking KYM's userbase for a corporate entity? KYM is run by Rocketboom, yes. Is KYM a corporation? No. KYM is a user-driven knowledge sharing website. Surely you must realize that being SFW doesn't detract from the validity of the content. If a meme is NSFW, then it is marked as such and documented anyways. No, we don't post porn or shock imagery here. But as I said, very few people want to read an article only to face a wall of shock images.
Really, would allowing NSFW content make the content any better? I think not. And from the looks of things, so does a vast majority of the userbase.
"Unaware audience?" A blatant assumption. Yes, some of our audience is unaware of the subject matter. But a majority already knows of the meme. Many of our users are anons themselves.
Equating a bullshit, half-assed religious organization to KYM is absurd.
We don't necessarily want to be ignored. We just want people to use common sense. If they don't like a site, it stands to reason that they should not visit it. It will not have any effect whatsoever on their lives if they simply ignore it.
6. So you're suggesting that we should document every move that anon makes? Isn't that counter to your cause?
7. The quality of a website is a subjective matter. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you think one website is better than another, fine. But don't expect the users of the other website to care that you think that their site sucks.
8. And this makes you better than others? How so?

Why are we talking about ED?

If you got a problem with your penis take some Viagra, if its still not working, dress up as a girl and go to the streets corner at 9:00 Am.

Why is this text so tiny?

but really now..

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Encyclopedia_Dramatica_%28Website%29

"In early 2007, the admins started putting up fake "We desperately need moar money" banners on top of the pages to scam money out of their dumbass readers. On May 17, 2007, they closed the site down to make it appear as though the site had truly died. Acne-ridden teenagers everywhere would cry unto the heavens, right before slitting their wrists. A few days later, the site came back like a bad case of crabs. "

Also

"There is no real war. But every once in a while the 12-year-olds from lame-ass Encyclopedia Dramatica will try to start some shit with Uncyclopedia. This is because they are insecure about their unfunniness. One Uncyclopedia user even suggested a contest to see which is funnier. Here's a better idea: Let's compare cow shit with horse shit and see which has the best fragrance.

In the end, whichever site is funnier is a moot point, since wiki editors never get any pussy. "

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Not going to respond to all these. But let me address a few.

Unlimited bandwidth is easy to obtain. It's much cheaper then it was back then when shit was metered. Don't underestimate the power of online shopping for the best deal and negotiation.

By "Unaware People" I mean people who have never visited 4chan who decide to go look up something they saw on said website and happen to land upon kym. "OH COOL A TEE!" *BUY*" And Rocketboom profits.

Most Anonymous people like stuff not pixelated. A hatred of censorship is common. Reason why your userbase doesn't like it is because of whiny underaged b& that lie about their age when signing up. I guess KYM cannot protect itself in a lawsuit if little jimmy saw something he shouldn't and soccer mom sues.

When I refer to kym, I mean RB.

Back on topic, Idc if the site userbase doesn't like my opinion. I am offering a better solution for looking up memes. EDIT: Also, why feed the corporate machine to make them richer?

Last edited Nov 25, 2010 at 02:56AM EST

pause wrote:

Not going to respond to all these. But let me address a few.

Unlimited bandwidth is easy to obtain. It's much cheaper then it was back then when shit was metered. Don't underestimate the power of online shopping for the best deal and negotiation.

By "Unaware People" I mean people who have never visited 4chan who decide to go look up something they saw on said website and happen to land upon kym. "OH COOL A TEE!" *BUY*" And Rocketboom profits.

Most Anonymous people like stuff not pixelated. A hatred of censorship is common. Reason why your userbase doesn't like it is because of whiny underaged b& that lie about their age when signing up. I guess KYM cannot protect itself in a lawsuit if little jimmy saw something he shouldn't and soccer mom sues.

When I refer to kym, I mean RB.

Back on topic, Idc if the site userbase doesn't like my opinion. I am offering a better solution for looking up memes. EDIT: Also, why feed the corporate machine to make them richer?

4chan is not the only site responsible for memes on the internet. A common misconception about KYM is that it only documents 4chan memes. Most people who have never visited 4chan but know of a meme or memes know of memes that have nothing to do with 4chan.
So buying something that you like is somehow wrong because you're giving money to a corporation? Well in that case, you should start producing everything you use yourself, since supporting corporations is wrong. Yep, you know better than to feed the evil corporations. You grow your own food, build your own equipment, weave your own fabrics to make your own clothes, and carry water from a river on your back to ensure that you don't feed any of the corporations that oppress and ruin your culture. Hell, why don't we all go back to being monkeys roaming around hunting for food? That would teach those damn corporations to make life so easy and comfortable for us.
I'm not saying that you can't access shock imagery. I'm not saying that every website should be censored. But I am saying that when you're on this site in particular, you can't post such content. This should not be a problem. When you are on a website, you are a guest on the owner's server. Don't confuse a website with the U.S. government.
Bottom line, if the admins say not to post something, don't post it. If you don't like it, go elsewhere.
The userbase does not care about your opinion. If you think ED is better than KYM, use ED. It's safe to say that not a single person here cares which site you think is better.

Without 4chan, KYM would not exist. To say that you dont always use memes from there, is horseshit. Unless your ref. to the twins and pizza video.

Don't drag other corps into this. I'm certain the LOL-mart and others don't oppress my culture. I have never said all corps are bad. Just you. Though the idea of hunting wouldn't hurt. Being that you are so fat and lazy and spending time defending Kym. Might as well do it myself as well, I'm getting tired of arguing with newfags.

Is Corp. Censorship any different then Gov. censorship? And where along the lines did you think I confused you with the Fed? It's not just Shock imgs. You have pointlessly censored Memes such as "HEY LET ME IN, IMMA FAIRY!"

You still havn't answered my other question, Which I have asked you. Why do you support RocketBoom's profiteering off Memes? Don't you care that sites beside 4chan struggle to stay afloat?

Also, you are not the userbase, you are just a meat-puppet helping RB push it's agenda. I am so sorry for you. But I have to lol when you say the userbase doesn't care. You are not everyone. Unless you sockpuppet the majority of accounts here. I know that its a cool trick that corps use to fake hype and attract more users, but I seriously doubt it.

Well, I think I'm done here. I may not of yet made you see the light, but Nevertheless, I urge users here to stop supporting RB and its agenda and go elsewhere. Besides, you are not Anonymous here, and RB won't protect you when legal shit hits the fan.

Bye now!

Without 4chan, KYM would not exist. To say that you dont always use memes from there, is horseshit. Unless your ref. to the twins and pizza video.

Arrogant baseless claim. All your base ? Sad Keanu ? The Cake is a lie ? Slender Man ? Facebomb ? YTMND ?
You quoting RocketBoom making a video about the Olsen's pizza only shows that you didn't bother browsing through KYM. When you want to spurge your hatred on a website like that, it's great to first see a little of what is inside it.

You have pointlessly censored Memes such as “HEY LET ME IN, IMMA FAIRY!”

Arrogant baseless claim. Prove that it is a meme first. It's not "censored". There just isn't any concrete evidence to make it a meme for now so => Deadpool. But entries from the deadpool can return to their submitted status, then confirmed if work is to be done.

Is Corp. Censorship any different then Gov. censorship?

Arrogant baseless claim. Do you consider censorship when KYM simply wants to be family friendly while being mature enough to talk about shock sites, meatspin, Goatse, porn related elements and such ? Just because KYM intentionally choose not to display explicit pictures doesn't mean it cannot talk about it.

ED allows such pictures ? Then go there again. KYM isn't at the service of Anon, for it's not based on 4chan memes only.

You still havn’t answered my other question, Which I have asked you. Why do you support RocketBoom’s profiteering off Memes? Don’t you care that sites beside 4chan struggle to stay afloat?

Only if you can show me where they are profiteering off memes. The Sony deal isn't a reason, for it only helped RocketBoom some time ago to produce their show, and the deal ended up months/more than a year ago. But someone with common sense would understand that RB isn't KYM, even if KYM is a part of it.

Also, you are not the userbase, you are just a meat-puppet helping RB push it’s agenda. I am so sorry for you. But I have to lol when you say the userbase doesn’t care. You are not everyone. Unless you sockpuppet the majority of accounts here. I know that its a cool trick that corps use to fake hype and attract more users, but I seriously doubt it.

"Hey, see, I'm not a bad guy, see, I want to let everyone hear talk about it!". Ok, let the rest of the community talk then.

KYM's community doesn't necessarily support RB's agenda, so don't worry about that.

"oppress my culture"
Okay, seriously? I'm pretty sure that what you do on the internet is not really considered a "culture." It's something to do for fun with free time, not a tradition you pass on to your children.
"being fat and lazy and defending KYM. Might as well do it myself as well, I’m getting tired of arguing with newfags."
First part: You are doing the same thing, just in the opposite direction. Second part: Then go away and make better use of your time.
And in general, you don't present yourself as fully competent when you continue to use the word "of" in place of the word "have" multiple times throughout your statements.

PwNeDoScAr wrote:

"oppress my culture"
Okay, seriously? I'm pretty sure that what you do on the internet is not really considered a "culture." It's something to do for fun with free time, not a tradition you pass on to your children.
"being fat and lazy and defending KYM. Might as well do it myself as well, I’m getting tired of arguing with newfags."
First part: You are doing the same thing, just in the opposite direction. Second part: Then go away and make better use of your time.
And in general, you don't present yourself as fully competent when you continue to use the word "of" in place of the word "have" multiple times throughout your statements.

Telling like it izz!!

pause wrote:

Good Morning, Evening, Afternoon.

I just want to point out that before kym existed to "Research" Memes, for the benefit of themselves (Jevvs) and Newfags (lrn2google). There is a place where memes are explained in great humourus detail.

It is called Encyclopedia Dramatica. Here's a Link for you, http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/ (NSFW)

Now before we shout "HURR WE ARE THE SAME, HURR THEY SELL SHIT TOO!", ED existed to document Memes on the 'net and the latest Drama. Sure they sell Memes too. But they don't do so to make a profit.

Every cent goes back into the site. Thats right. They do it for F-U-N and not profit. Infact, sometimes they lose money to keep this UNCENSORED wonderful bit of the net open.

And if your mommies and daddies think ED isn't for you, there is ED's SFW site http://www.whatport80.com/ It explains memes in a mormon approved way.

Think kym is better? Trust me. Suckling on the pacifier of pretend "Anonymous" will only make sites like 4chan, 711chan, 7chan, zerochan etc pretty much turn into hipster garbage sites. And they will eventually die. It's like being part of a gang that was nationwide, that had its original leaders jailed many years ago. And the new members have no idea why they make their gang signs… and what they represent.

This is why you keep on being ridiculed, raided, and raided some more. It will not stop. It will NEVER stop.

If you want to break free of your safe little plastic sand box and be spoon fed lies of what anonymous is, then use the resources I have provided to you. Sure, gore and CP is scary, but its a fact of life. So lurk! And be free! And don't ever, com back to kym, or any of its future clones!

Semper Dolosus!

Pause.

1.I don't care what people say, "Newfag" is homophobic, so that means:

2.You seem like a snob. Have you got a mac?
3."Suckling on the pacifier of pretend “Anonymous” will only make sites like 4chan, 711chan, 7chan, zerochan etc pretty much turn into hipster garbage sites"
I hope you use language like that in the exam.
4."This is why you keep on being ridiculed, raided, and raided some more. It will not stop. It will NEVER stop."
You seem to have the idea that you're life is the computer in front of you.
5.

pause wrote:

Without 4chan, KYM would not exist. To say that you dont always use memes from there, is horseshit. Unless your ref. to the twins and pizza video.

Don't drag other corps into this. I'm certain the LOL-mart and others don't oppress my culture. I have never said all corps are bad. Just you. Though the idea of hunting wouldn't hurt. Being that you are so fat and lazy and spending time defending Kym. Might as well do it myself as well, I'm getting tired of arguing with newfags.

Is Corp. Censorship any different then Gov. censorship? And where along the lines did you think I confused you with the Fed? It's not just Shock imgs. You have pointlessly censored Memes such as "HEY LET ME IN, IMMA FAIRY!"

You still havn't answered my other question, Which I have asked you. Why do you support RocketBoom's profiteering off Memes? Don't you care that sites beside 4chan struggle to stay afloat?

Also, you are not the userbase, you are just a meat-puppet helping RB push it's agenda. I am so sorry for you. But I have to lol when you say the userbase doesn't care. You are not everyone. Unless you sockpuppet the majority of accounts here. I know that its a cool trick that corps use to fake hype and attract more users, but I seriously doubt it.

Well, I think I'm done here. I may not of yet made you see the light, but Nevertheless, I urge users here to stop supporting RB and its agenda and go elsewhere. Besides, you are not Anonymous here, and RB won't protect you when legal shit hits the fan.

Bye now!

KYM does not exclusively document 4chan memes. This is common knowledge.
You're making the assertion that memes don't exist anywhere but 4chan. Which is, in your own words, horse shit.
The video was taken far too seriously by mindless retards who actually believe that the internet is serious business. Not our fault.

Excluding other corporations to give the appearance of validity to your argument is bullshit.
KYM does not oppress your culture. KYM documents memes. You can read as much into that as you want, but the simple fact is that that's all KYM does. It's a tool for aggregating knowledge about internet memes. Simple as that.
That last part is just a bunch of ad hominem, so I'm not going to bother addressing it.

Yes. As I explained, this website does not grant you the same rights to not be censored as the U.S. government. The admins can censor whatever they want because they run the site. I imagine they don't want shock images here any more than anyone else. So they ask that we not post them. This is not an unreasonable request.
If you think a meme has been left out, submit it, don't whine about censorship. If an entry is hidden or deadpooled, it's because it's poorly written, lacks evidence of memetic elements, and/or is spam. You can always just ask for editorship of a deadpooled entry, revise it, and then ask for it to be reviewed by an entry mod. Not rocket science.

I don't have any evidence that would suggest that Rocketboom profits from KYM. Therefore it is irrational to assume that they do. If you want to believe that Rocketboom profits from KYM, fine. But don't expect anyone to take your belief seriously without evidence.
No, I don't care. Do you care that businesses in which you have no interest go under or file for bankruptcy every day? No? Then don't expect me to care about websites in which I have no interest.
Furthermore, sites that struggle are usually too small to create large memes, which, by your logic, means that we have no material to profit off of. And by that I mean that they don't produce memes large enough for us to document.
Don't project your frustrations about the lack of donations on sites you moderate onto us.

I am doing exactly what you are doing. I am speaking on behalf of a collective having gathered a consensus.
I have to laugh at this piece of blatant hypocrisy on your part. Did you read this as you were typing it?
And no, I don't have any sockpuppet accounts.

Last edited Nov 25, 2010 at 03:22PM EST

pause wrote:

Good Morning, Evening, Afternoon.

I just want to point out that before kym existed to "Research" Memes, for the benefit of themselves (Jevvs) and Newfags (lrn2google). There is a place where memes are explained in great humourus detail.

It is called Encyclopedia Dramatica. Here's a Link for you, http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/ (NSFW)

Now before we shout "HURR WE ARE THE SAME, HURR THEY SELL SHIT TOO!", ED existed to document Memes on the 'net and the latest Drama. Sure they sell Memes too. But they don't do so to make a profit.

Every cent goes back into the site. Thats right. They do it for F-U-N and not profit. Infact, sometimes they lose money to keep this UNCENSORED wonderful bit of the net open.

And if your mommies and daddies think ED isn't for you, there is ED's SFW site http://www.whatport80.com/ It explains memes in a mormon approved way.

Think kym is better? Trust me. Suckling on the pacifier of pretend "Anonymous" will only make sites like 4chan, 711chan, 7chan, zerochan etc pretty much turn into hipster garbage sites. And they will eventually die. It's like being part of a gang that was nationwide, that had its original leaders jailed many years ago. And the new members have no idea why they make their gang signs… and what they represent.

This is why you keep on being ridiculed, raided, and raided some more. It will not stop. It will NEVER stop.

If you want to break free of your safe little plastic sand box and be spoon fed lies of what anonymous is, then use the resources I have provided to you. Sure, gore and CP is scary, but its a fact of life. So lurk! And be free! And don't ever, com back to kym, or any of its future clones!

Semper Dolosus!

Pause.

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