Twins the Serendipitous Serval
Location: Lost somewhere on the time-space continuum between Newfoundland and California
Joined Dec 20, 2011 at 04:08AM EST
OMG 24 FEEL SO OLD NOW
I overanalyze things. A lot.
I post TL;DR. While simultaneously overanalyzing things.
I slack on KYM. By posting TL;DR.
I poorly draw. While using references.
I pop in whenever I feel is convenient, then stealthily recede into the shadows.
I wuv ALL the animals. But especially
WHEREFORE ART THOU, JAMIE?
Ha, I’m not back just yet. Not until I finish one of the 5 different pony songs I’ve started and get massive kramaz on teh poni general.
Wrote more stuffs.
(been sick lately so I haven’t done as much as I could have)
And of course it won’t be that easy becoming well-known. I highly doubt I’ll ever be, just a nice little fantasy role I assume sometimes (okay all the time). I mean, if you take a look at famous EDM producers out there today, they’re by and large young, around the same age as me. And many of them haven’t been in the industry for long. Take, for example, Zedd. He’s been at it for just 4 years and he’s already blown up the radio. Avicii, hasn’t even released an album yet, yet his sample of Etta James is so famous that Flo Rida decided that “fuck actually writing music, let’s sample other samples.” The venerable Skrillex, migrating from an obscure punk band to the poster child of EDM today. Here I’d like to point out that, while I’m no longer raging in hate about dubstep and related genres, I don’t particularly like the music of everyone that I’ve listed here. If you give me 5 minutes I can find 5 examples of random EDM artists on Youtube who are arguably more talented than the big names out there.
I’ve always loved music, but I never liked practicing or performing what old dead white males wrote 300 years ago. Now that I’m composing stuff of my own, I finally feel at home.
Ha, I have no idea about particular EDM artists. I just play the “3 hours of some EDM subgenre here” videos while I do other stuff. There’s not really a particular sound that I’m consciously trying to create, although I’m taking a lot of inspiration from the stuff I’m listening to that definitely shows. If anything, I’d say my time in various orchestras and bands in my childhood have fostered an appreciation for a ton of different genres and instruments.
Right now I’m having trouble envisioning an entire track. I mean, imo I’m really good with the melodic material and doing basslines and all, I just struggle with putting the pieces together, and having a proper intro, buildup, chorus, verse, etc. And I’m not very good at harmony either, although I recently found out about an epic feature of Cubase that does the chords and everything for you.
Posted some stuff in the thread on my wall btw.
From what I’ve read about, FL Studio seems to be the most geared toward electronic music production. It’s the cheapest too, so. Ableton Live is good for performing live and a lot of the big name EDM producers out there use it. Reason has good synths. Cubase is what I have and it definitely has a huge learning curve, not being tailored to electro like the rest. Does definitely feel really really powerful if you can ever learn to use all the features. There’s some others out there like Studio One and Pro Tools and Logic Pro, but check those out on your own time.
Right now what I have for the pony track is a basic drum beat, a really sparse intro, some synths that I haven’t changed from the presets, and some strings because orchestral electronic music is best electronic music.
Listening to a shit ton of EDM right now. Yes, I still chuckle when the bass drops. Cuz it’s funny. I’m not the hugest EDM fan out there, but if that’s what I want to do. I think Fifths said it on my wall a few posts down, but most of these tracks are really bad with integrating all the parts into a coherent whole. It’s like they know nothing about key signatures.
Wish me luck. Going to post something on Pony General by the end of the week if all goes well.
Anyways, Cubase is a really awesome software despite my earlier complaints. Tutorials I’ve done/are doing:
-The Quick Start ones that came with the software and are on Youtube on the Steinberg channel
The example song that they use is awful (after the storm comes a double rai-DIES), but videos are very informative.
The first 5 are about using premade loops, which I couldn’t care less about, but watch them all anyways.
Wish the guy talked. Nice to watch him on the keyboard though. Gonna have to relearn that.
-Random “How to make [insert genre/subgenre of music here]” videos
Awesome. Not the videos particularly, but the fact that they’re show you how to do the sounds that I have going off in my head all the time. Like those dubstep wubs are made with massive distortion where you just mess with settings and copious use of cutoff (an effect where it cuts off the end of notes every beat or half beat and so on).
-Other Cubase stuff
At this point a lot of it is repeated information, but it helps you remember all the settings and effects you have to do.
-Other not Cubase stuff
DAWs do the exact same thing in the end, so even if the interface is entirely different, it’s still helpful watching people make music.
-Watching people make music
There’s a few videos where people post the project files in whatever DAW they’re using for their projects, and like I said it’s helpful seeing what others are doing.
I’m actually super serious about this music thing, even though I’m failing so hard at getting anything done. I envision myself as being able to pay my massive student debt off from the sales of my songs while I comfortably Marat all day and what not.
Right now I have about 5 different song ideas that I’ve started working on in Cubase. I should probably focus on one at a time. Exactly 2 of them involve poni, and I’m not even sure they should. Equestria Daily is super tempting as a way to put my name out there, but I don’t want to be saddled (lel) back with poni. I’ll probably have to separate those identities.
Quick interjection: I watched some pony music linked from ED, and oh god do people actually use pony OCs to represent themselves. Then you have these guys rapping about being Fluttershy or Luna. I won’t deny that some of them are decent musicians (sorry if I’m Phil Fishing here) and their music sounds pretty EDM-y, but I can almost see why someone not in the brony fandom would find it weird. Almost.
The thing with me is that I’m fairly good technically at singing, and I always hit the correct pitches and stuff (unless I’m trolling someone, in which case gg ears), it’s just that I don’t have the proper voice type. I do have a mean Adele impression (not really), but not going to resort to that. Although with electronic music, I’m pretty sure that you can run anyone’s voice through a shit ton of filters and get something that sounds about right. I like instrumentals though.
Like I said on your wall, I uninstalled all of the distractions on my computer, and I also moved all the music gear right into my room. Hopefully I won’t develop a sudden urge to watch everything on Netflix back to front.
The thing that sucks is that I get musical inspirations when I’m nowhere near the computer, and I’m really bad with relative pitch so I can’t write anything down on paper either. There’s probably an app for that, but still. Lost so many good ideas. Half of them probably plagarized.
Just uninstalled Steam, Civilization and all. Got little more than a month before I get back to this “life” thing, so now that I’ve freed up 8 hours/day…
I also figured out that the tutorials for Cubase 4 are very much relevant to version 7. I’m going to spend the next few days pouring through each of them. I expect to emerge no less than a [insert your favourite electro producer(s) here]. Wish me luck. Just so tired right now after all of this, and I’m even more lost now that I’ve gotten everything to work.
So the stuff from Hong Kong came today. A Midi to USB cable, and a probably counterfeit mic.
I fumbled around with the MIDI cable for about an hour before I realized that the IN cable goes in the OUT port and the OUT cable goes in the IN port. Apparently that’s standard, which is confusing. But yeah, I found a video showing you how to connect the keyboard to Cubase, and it works like a charm now. Imma let myself finish, but this is the least user friendly interface OF ALL TIME.
I also got the mic working, and I have to say, I do not sound like that. Ugh. Now I can’t blame my annoying voice on a cheap ass mic.
Anyways despite it’s confusingnessity, I managed to figure out that there’s about 600 or so preset VST instruments included with this. I’d say a good half of them are cool. I mean, just scrolling through the giant list of stuff I have to say that this is definitely all I need forevz. I mean, I guess some people route synths from Reason or something and then do it live with Ableton, but I’m having a hard enough time getting through Cubase as it is.
I’m with you on the basslines and drum sequences. What I do is this sort of beatboxing thing, and then in my head I imagine it’s an actual track and the sounds are the various things you hear in electronic music. It sounds really cool, but then once I recorded it to see what I sounded like and it was god awful. The problem is actually getting those sounds you imagine and want to work on the synths and all.
Thank god this isn’t your wall.
I should probably stop playing Civ 5 as well.
Deleted a rant and wrote another. What do you know, I’m back.
I’m just under the impression that no matter how you pronounce them, tomato and potato are two words that should rhyme.
When you listen to electronic music you’re like “oh electro that’s like no skill 4 on the floor beats just repeat the same thing over and over I could do that.” But then when you get in to it you realize that it actually takes a TON of technical knowledge to get those down. Formulaic, of course, but you have to derive the formula first, and that’s something I’m not getting right now.
I guess I’m expecting too much out of a first track. I’ve got a few bits and pieces started here and there but they just don’t sound right. Just wish there was someone that could give me a few pointers. Watched all the videos and I’m lost in all the technical details..
What I should probably do is just fuck learning the software and just go for it.
Reason is 1 out of like 15 different DAWs that are out there today. People routinely get into flame wars on which one is better, but in my mind they all do the same thing. I just went with Cubase because apparently the Touhou guy uses that. Not that I’m a real fan of them, it’s just I dunno. I admire his work I guess.
The thing that sucks is that I have no idea how to do anything. I just wrote a huge rant about this but meh, didn’t make any sense to me. It’s just that there are no good tutorials or anything out there, and the program is super complex with all the filters and equalizers and inserts and channels and VSTs and inserts and bleh. Probably my fault for thinking I could just start of with the most professional software suite out there. I mean, GarageBand was fun. I remember how way back in middle and high school I used to always go to this friend’s house purely because her dad had a Mac and I cranked out some serious tunes with all the premade loops layered on top of each other. Now when you have to do the music yourself, it’s just a scary world out there.
Also, is it true that you say “tomahto” but then “potayto”? Because that’s really stupid.
I’m not actually travelling the world. Too poor for that. I just was able to hitch on to this trip using my seductive charms (come on guiseeeeeee it’ll be fun to have meeeeeee) and that’s it. Back in the States right now and gonna be a leech on society for a year or two before I get into my life.
But yeah, still remember this old place. I’ve been meaning to get on, but so far it’s been a typical summer wherein I make all these goals for myself and I don’t accomplish any of them. Also I don’t want to let Fifths down since he’s given me a ton of advice on the music stuff and he’s probably expecting a masterpiece, and I’ll probably sorely let him down when I crank that first track out. But yeah, I just bought some legit gear and stuff now. Got a mic which I’m going to use to record then autotune the shit out of my voice (Ellie Goulding away!) and some cables and stuff. They’re shipping from Hong Kong right now and it’s been like 3 weeks so.
Ha, there was an Asian market where I stayed. It was nice, and I got pretty much every nondescript Australian souvenir I could find. Went there like every day and dragged everyone with me.
FifthsXVerbose. I’ll leave it at that.
So I stopped by Kiwiland on the way to Marsupialland. Now, I didn’t actually get to experience the supposed greatness of your country since I only stayed in the airport for like 2 hours total, but I did get to put my linguistic skills to some use. I gotta say, when the flight guy asked if I wanted epple juice I blanked out for a second.
Oz was pretty cool though, specifically Sydney. I was there for a week, since now that I’ve finished school for the foreseeable future, I figure I can explore the world a bit. Or at least the English speaking part. It felt like forevz though. Can’t help feel like it was a giant tourist trap though.
Unfortunately the damn murderous animals were locked up in cages for our enjoyment. I did get to touch a few though. I had this ice cream cone of kangaroo food that I so cleverly paid for with Canadian money instead of Australian (bitches won’t know what hit em), and an emu walked by and decided to start eating it, and the whole time I was like “oh god my hand get this fucking giant bird away oh god.” Then I ran away and there were some wallabies nearby and I pet one and it was nice.
So anyway, how are yas? I hear ya got modz now, and I’m sure RandomMan and Verbose and everyone from Pony General had nothing to do with this. You deserve it. Speaking of ponies, Equestria Girls. It was meh, although could have been worse. Can’t wait to read Pony General’s opinion on it. Haven’t seen a good TL;DR chain in a long time.
And if you were curious, yes, I’m still doing that music thing. Yes, it will feature ponies. Yes, there will be copious amounts of reverb. Yes, it will be awesome. No, I haven’t finished anything yet.
Not at all, not at all.
Believe me, I’ve tried to voice ponies. But it never works out. I’ll never understand how people can do every pony 100% accurately without breaking a sweat. It sounds right in my head but then when I play it back/ask others how it is, bleh. I can sort of approximate Photo Finish, Pinkie Pie, Cadance, maybe Fluttershy, but only in this sort of exaggerated style (and you can hear my normal voice in it).
My actual voice alters from day to day, person to person, setting to setting. It varies in pitch, speed, enunciation, and accent, but it’s always recognizably my own (i hate hearing it ugh). The funny thing is, what I’ve found with voice actors is that their speaking voices tend to be fairly run of the mill. Maybe they’re compensating?
Rainbow Dash is one of the hardest ponies to do anyways, what with the voice cracks and all. Also I’m really insecure about myself, so even if I could, I’d be scared :(. Plus I don’t have a good microphone, to add another excuse.
Good luck with the animation though. I’ve actually been meaning to get into something artistic (remember the Sweetie Belle and BSOD thing) for a while. Right now I’m aiming at music production, although I still can figure out for the life of me how to use Cubase. Maybe with that I’ll come to terms with my voice and be able to do all this stuff I want to. But not now.
Hey, it’s fine. I’m arguably way worse with this (remember that time you wanted me to sing for Trixie and I was like umm idk and then I tried in irl at 3 am when my roommate was sleeping and then she woke up and awkward). Honestly, I just expected you to give a few general tips and all. I’m pretty good at analyzing pieces if I make a conscious effort, but I never got to the composing part.
In the past month or so I’ve actually moved on to more melodic stuff, although I still love the xx (what really makes the band imo is the producer guy Jamie xx, the other two members are fairly standard Brit indie artists). I am aware that most of the time they play 1 guitar string at a time though lel. One thing I’ve always liked is dubstep songs before the bass drop. They’re actually quite pretty, and I’ve heard some really nice flutes and violins in them.
Hmmm, to give you another example of a band that wouldn’t murder you were you to try to analyze it, Stars. Again, more indie bandness, but take a listen to Your Ex-Lover is Dead. I like how they manage to fit the cello, xylophone, horns, guitar, etc. into one song. It seems fairly melodic and repetitive. Wish I could figure our what key it was in. Here’s another one of their songs: Changes. More of an electronic feel this time, but there’s still that subtle string section in the background.
Oh, and Radiohead. Everything by them.
I’ve been reviewing some basic theory, and I have a lot of the rules down now with chord structure and inversions and progressions. What I’m interested is at this point is how I could break the rules while keeping it sounding somewhat musical. Would it be possible to, say, do a massive string of deceptive cadences, and end it off with a half cadence? Sounds fun.