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Mafia - the Reawakening

Last posted May 10, 2015 at 02:36AM EDT. Added Apr 08, 2015 at 07:02PM EDT
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Half of these people seem to be spilt between me and Starscream. I chose him because he's the obvious culprit. We currently have no leads to go on and he was the only one with RM with he died. Additionally, Everyone who has given a reason for voting for me seems to be because I casted my vote first. While I do understand that we have no leads, I don't see the logic in accusing someone for voicing their opinion. In fact, I wonder if we even have to vote now. If we don't have to, then we should probably wait until the don has gotten some information.

Quite a statement to simply ask us to all withdraw our votes. Murderers stalk the shadows, and we simply quit worrying? Waiting will result in more deaths. Let's take our chances, even if innocents must die, so be it.

action, reaction

Freelancer wrote:

Half of these people seem to be spilt between me and Starscream. I chose him because he's the obvious culprit. We currently have no leads to go on and he was the only one with RM with he died. Additionally, Everyone who has given a reason for voting for me seems to be because I casted my vote first. While I do understand that we have no leads, I don't see the logic in accusing someone for voicing their opinion. In fact, I wonder if we even have to vote now. If we don't have to, then we should probably wait until the don has gotten some information.

The reason people aren't voting me is because it's so obvious, why would Lil B give us the killer so easily?

James Blunt wrote:

i agree with freelancer, its better to wait until the don gets information.

is there a way to retreat your vote or something?

You are free to change your vote.

Old Man GigaChad wrote:

The reason people aren't voting me is because it's so obvious, why would Lil B give us the killer so easily?

Because he'd expect us to overlook you for being the obvious choice. Again, reverse psychology.

Old Man GigaChad wrote:

The reason people aren't voting me is because it's so obvious, why would Lil B give us the killer so easily?

^Pretty much yeah.

Alrighty I got some dirt on the Starscream shmuck.
….. hes clean, he's just a simple villager with a simple goal that only got caught up with the wrong crowd, Freelancer is the real killer.

December 5th, 1950

After the murder of Random Man, the town was left to being a town hall meeting, discussing the murder. The meeting took a quick turn after Villager Lance "Freelancer" Johnson accused Starscream of being the murderer. The hall quickly turned to those with Starscream and those with Freelancer. After a heated debate, the hall decided to oust Freelancer for being too outspoken, while Starscream lives.

Night Phase, 30 Hours Remain.

Final votes:

Starscream (8 votes)
Freelancer (13 votes)

Hackenbacker, unusedusername, Sam, and Laud Piestrings will all be killed off if they do not vote next round

Freelancer has Fallen! That makes me the new leader of the angry mob!

@NON

How would you know that I'm a villager? I never told anyone what I am. The only way you could know is if you were a member of the mafia and knew all the members of your organization and knew that I wasn't a mafioso!

Laud "The Bear Jew" Piestrings wrote:

Watch as Starscream murders us all.

being a dedicated player in this game doesn't mean I'm the villain, and I think my reasoning for killing No Original Names is pretty spot on, and why would I kill one of my own?

cleans hands of blood
Apologies Freelancer, what is done is done.

However, comma, we still do not have any clues concerning the murder. Perhaps it is not so wise firing bullets into the dark.

I'm still slightly suspicious of Starscream, concerning he was on the scene of the murder yet has done nothing to explain his involvement, or lack of involvement, of the death. Obvious? Perhaps a little too obvious, but it's still noteworthy.

Now then, Starscream, remember there is more to this than simple villagers and infiltrators.

lights cigar
What do you all say, gentlemen? What is the best course of action? Wait for new happenings? Take our chances and leave blood on the trail?


edit: typos, grammar, spelling, etc

Last edited Apr 12, 2015 at 09:04PM EDT

Since I'm a veteran in this type of situation I should offer some assistance to those who are new. Be wary of those who are silent, for they can either be those who are shy or carry with them a grave secret.

Which means Hackenbacker, unusedusername, Sam, and Laud Piestrings should be watched. If they don't post, so be it, let them be terminated. They better have a reason for not responding earlier if they do in fact post.

Old Man GigaChad wrote:

being a dedicated player in this game doesn't mean I'm the villain, and I think my reasoning for killing No Original Names is pretty spot on, and why would I kill one of my own?

I don't think we can start voting for people until the day phase can we? And he could also know that you're a villager because he'e either the don or lefty/righty, so you can accuse him if you want but it seems too early to tell at this point (not to mention we might end up killing of a useful member).

Crimeariver wrote:

I don't think we can start voting for people until the day phase can we? And he could also know that you're a villager because he'e either the don or lefty/righty, so you can accuse him if you want but it seems too early to tell at this point (not to mention we might end up killing of a useful member).

You're right, we can't start voting until Day Phase.

Crimeariver wrote:

I don't think we can start voting for people until the day phase can we? And he could also know that you're a villager because he'e either the don or lefty/righty, so you can accuse him if you want but it seems too early to tell at this point (not to mention we might end up killing of a useful member).

But the don and investigators don't know who the villagers are.

Old Man GigaChad wrote:

But the don and investigators don't know who the villagers are.

I thought the don gets to investigate someone during the night phase to determine their role, and lefty/righty get a hint about the events. So either of them could have found out that you're a villager. I think we should wait for NON to respond and get his side of the story.

undusedusername is excused for the time being. Valid enough excuse, a little investigation into his activity feed shows minor activity, but nothing enough to warrant avoidance of this thread.

Gary wrote:

Which means Hackenbacker, unusedusername, Sam, and Laud Piestrings should be watched. If they don't post, so be it, let them be terminated. They better have a reason for not responding earlier if they do in fact post.

Oh gods above, please don't kill me! Don't kill me! I was without wi-fi for the weekend, I was camping with my family! Please, have mercy!!! I have a reason, please don't kill me! I'm just a washer woman!!

Last edited Apr 13, 2015 at 02:17AM EDT

Well on the one hand, after checking out hackenbacker's activity her last post was 3 days ago, which would support her claim. However, she also isn't particularly active a lot of the time anyway so it could just be regular behavior as well (taking regular hiatuses several days at a time).

File under: Keep Eye On For Now

Hackenbacker wrote:

Oh gods above, please don't kill me! Don't kill me! I was without wi-fi for the weekend, I was camping with my family! Please, have mercy!!! I have a reason, please don't kill me! I'm just a washer woman!!

Three excuses? That's a little suspicious. One is fine. Three is overdoing it. However this isn't a strong claim against you. You're clear for now. Keeping an eye on you.

Crimeariver wrote:

I thought the don gets to investigate someone during the night phase to determine their role, and lefty/righty get a hint about the events. So either of them could have found out that you're a villager. I think we should wait for NON to respond and get his side of the story.

The don gets to know about any player, it woulden't be smart to have little faith in the don, he can do some drastic actions to get what he wants, not that I'm him, i'm just a simple villager who knows his fellow folks.

Gary wrote:

Three excuses? That's a little suspicious. One is fine. Three is overdoing it. However this isn't a strong claim against you. You're clear for now. Keeping an eye on you.

Three? I have only one! Please, I was camping with my family! But I guess suspicion is better than death. Although at this point I'm not sure what's worse… I'm just a villager, your washer woman who makes sure your sweaters don't shrink!

Hackenbacker wrote:

Three? I have only one! Please, I was camping with my family! But I guess suspicion is better than death. Although at this point I'm not sure what's worse… I'm just a villager, your washer woman who makes sure your sweaters don't shrink!

December 6th, 1950

A Don can tell a man’s identity in seconds. So when Starscream was put in the spotlight at the town hall the night before, Nick Octavius Nichols (or NON for short) had one instinct. To defend him with absolute certainty. However, the Infiltrators took note. When NON was driving home, there was a sudden flat tire. He came out of the car, and when he looked behind him, there was 5 guns that shot at him at once. He may have died, but he died for a cause.

No Original Names, the Don has died.

Also Lord Starscream came to the doctor for a physical but he was healthy.

Day Phase, 24 hours remain

Last edited Apr 13, 2015 at 07:24PM EDT

Well fuck, I was worried that might happen.

You were pretty damn obvious about knowing something NON, and the infiltrators knew you couldn't be the mole (since they're working together), so you pretty much painted a target on back. I was kinda hoping the doctor would pick up on that and save you but apparently not.

And speaking of doctor, I'm really not sure what to make of that line about starscream getting a physical. I'm guessing that means that Star had some kind of interaction with the doctor during the night, but I could easily be reading too much into that.

Dammit. I will assume Starscream is clear. NON death has some use afterall.

To defend him with absolute certainty.

However, the Infiltrators took note.

Even though it's still very early to make any reinforced guesses. However, notice the placement of words?
Defend. Took note.
In other words my friends, sometime after NON posted this:

OR possibly this:

The murder was determined and set on him.
Nonetheless, it is very limited information, but if NON was making a defendant claim, anyone that was opposing him should be considered suspicious. We already know Starscream is clear.
Like Crow said, the silent are the dangerous. Any infiltrator is free to not post, but perhaps one is among the discussion speakers after NON made his claim.

Ideas?

Crimeariver wrote:

Well fuck, I was worried that might happen.

You were pretty damn obvious about knowing something NON, and the infiltrators knew you couldn't be the mole (since they're working together), so you pretty much painted a target on back. I was kinda hoping the doctor would pick up on that and save you but apparently not.

And speaking of doctor, I'm really not sure what to make of that line about starscream getting a physical. I'm guessing that means that Star had some kind of interaction with the doctor during the night, but I could easily be reading too much into that.

I think it means the doctor choose to save me :)

The Don?! But how? I think we are going to need more info but count me in for the next vote. Starscream is clear, but what of the others? I think a lot of people around here know a little too much about the whole process. *coughGarycoughCrimeacoughcough

Last edited Apr 13, 2015 at 08:43PM EDT

Old Man GigaChad wrote:

I think it means the doctor choose to save me :)

Yeah looking back that probably makes the most sense.

Still doesn't help us decide on who to vote off the island though.

AHA! Now then, gentlemen, pay attention.

This may just be me rambling, but since we determined that the infiltrators murdered NON after he defended Starscream, we obtain some clues.

What happened after this NON's defending post?

Well, despite Starscream having some opposing views, he is innocent in the end.

We notified some of the inactives correct? I will also state that they are innocent for the time being.

There is no reason to suspect Mad Science, Laud, Crimearivier, Crow, or me. None of us have done anything too suspicious, only posting to contribute our ideas.

Which means, none of us after NON's post are infiltrators. Bold statement, but if my plan is correct, then from this list, I can cross out a few names.

LeBron James
Natsuru Springfield
Minty
Chowzburgers
CrowTheMagician No reason for suspicion
Cecaelia Girlie
Sergeant Arch Dornan
Twisty
RandomMan – Deceased – Villager
Laud Piestrings No reason for suspicion
Gary The Stromtrooper No reason for suspicion
Crimea
Lord Starscream Cleared from NON
NON – Deceased – Don
madcat (<3)
You Are Reading This
justThisFool
Sam
Risette
Stalemate
Freelancer – Deceased – Villager
unusedusername – Inactive initially, dismissed of suspicion
Mad Science No reason for suspicion
Kaguya
Hackenbacker – Inactive initially, dismissed of suspicion

Everything I have compiled so far. Which means, 5 out of these 14 people that have yet to be crossed out and are under suspicion of murder. I narrowed it down quite a bit. Notify me if there are flaws in this theory, and give some input. I can't do this alone.

Last edited Apr 13, 2015 at 08:51PM EDT

In hindsight, NON was incredibly obvious. he probably should have just voted without assuming authority. Gary's list looks reasonable if we want to pick off someone randomly for this day phase.

madcat wrote:

In hindsight, NON was incredibly obvious. he probably should have just voted without assuming authority. Gary's list looks reasonable if we want to pick off someone randomly for this day phase.

Are you that comfortable at randomly picking one off? If my list is right, then 9 of them are innocent. Well, of course we still don't have any other clues to work with, they're all dried up and I squeezed as much as I could out.

It may be the best course of action to just randomly decide, but we can take a look back at past posts to find anything noteworthy.

Last edited Apr 13, 2015 at 09:02PM EDT

Now that I think about it, how are Lefty & Righty supposed to let us know what their hints are? If they do so, then it becomes obvious that they are the Infiltrators' next target. There's no way for them to know who is/isn't an Infiltrator. Shouldn't we let whoever is Lefty or Righty give us the hint, and then have the Doctor protect him?

Or are they supposed to be doing their investigations privately, and if so, how do we know who to kill?

Last edited Apr 13, 2015 at 09:07PM EDT

Gary wrote:

Are you that comfortable at randomly picking one off? If my list is right, then 9 of them are innocent. Well, of course we still don't have any other clues to work with, they're all dried up and I squeezed as much as I could out.

It may be the best course of action to just randomly decide, but we can take a look back at past posts to find anything noteworthy.

I agree that RNG is too risky at this point, especially since we would risk loosing the doctor or one of the two investigators.

The one thing I have to go on is that after looking back through the previous Mafia thread, chowz is acting very similar to how he did when he was an infiltrator that time round (i.e. not posting often and keeping his posts short and concise, which is somewhat unlike his usual forum personality).

So since that's really all we have to go on, I'm going to vote for Chowz for now. I could change my vote if new evidence comes to light.

P.S. I'm also only voting for chowz right now because if we don't start voting at some point then we aren't going to get anywhere with anything. This could bring new information to light.

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