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KYM Pony General VII: Live Free or Twi Hard

Last posted Jul 06, 2014 at 04:08PM EDT. Added Apr 19, 2013 at 12:22AM EDT
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@Crimson

it also bothered me that Pinkie’s “rainbow beam” happened during her sad song without her noticing and her eyes didn’t shine until late

Oh yea, that reminds me. Did anyone catch what Pinkies destiny key thing-whatever was this time? We saw the rainbow eyes and that usually means something. But I didn't see if there was any object related to it this time. Maybe I wasn't looking hard enough.


@Stunt

May I join this butt talk?

BSoD wrote:

Did anyone catch what Pinkies destiny key thing-whatever was this time?

Did you not watch the last minute of the episode? Here, let me just hint it out to you and we'll see if you get it:

  • Coco Pomel gave Rarity the Rainbow Thread.
  • Spitfire gave RD the Rainbow Pin.
    and so…
  • Cheese Sandwich gave Pinkie ________.

>Inb4 Twilight's key is the Journal of the Two Sisters and all the things they wrote in it!

(p.s. What ever happened to the Star Swirl the Bearded journal? Was it only needed for that one passage, or do you think we'll ever see it again?)

Last edited Feb 02, 2014 at 06:42AM EST

But…but…it should be logical!

Alright well…if you're going to make tell him, I'll do it my way! (muahhahaha!)
Riddle time!

Just like in Dr. Seuss' The Cat in the Hat,
Cheese rode off into the sun with thing 2 on his back.
But thing 1 he had left with a friend indeed,
For their might come a day when she'd be a friend in need.
So long time friends, Cheese and 1, had to both part ways,
Because there would come a time for thing 1 to help save a rainy day.

(It doesn't really rhyme, but I tried. It sounded cool in my head at least.
Also, what comes after a rainy day? A rainbow!)

Last edited Feb 02, 2014 at 07:30AM EST

@BSoD (Screw subtlety!)
Uh, yeah, I'm not sure how you missed that one.

That's the rainbow-iest chicken I ever did see!

By the way, the 'real' Boneless was apparently made out of rice-filled balloons in Jayson Theissen's basement.

The magic of TV!

(I will admit that the cuts to reality in this episode were really the only parts I didn't particularly like. Felt too much like those weird Spongebob cutaways that I never liked either.)


@Episode

A whole episode about worshiping best (adult) pony?
Yes please!
Oh, and I guess Weird Al was hanging around too or something…

But yes, this was a great episode!
A lot of fun songs, Pinkie being bipolar again, and Weird-freaking Al!
What's not to like?

Eh?
You say some people didn't like it?
Well…
THAT'S JUST FINE!
YEP!
NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!
EVERYONE HAS OPINIONS!

Nah, I get why some wouldn't care for it, but I personally thought it was very fun!
You kind of have to expect a certain level of craziness when you combine Weird Al and Pinkie Pie and that's pretty much what we got.
(Darn you, Stunt! You stole so many of the best gifs!)

Everyone has already gone over the big stuff: Al's songs and self-referential humor, Derpy everywhere, background filly explosion!
All of that was great!

Some of the other stuff I liked though:

-Diamond Tiara's singing was unexpected but surprisingly good. Wouldn't mind hearing from her again sometime. Same goes for Mr. and Mrs. Cake.

-Season 4 Lighting Strikes Again!

-Oh, the faces! This season especially, the animators have clearly gone out of their way to break from the 'standard' faces and really put a whole lot of extra cartooniness and emotion into them. Too many to list, but Pinkie has an avalanche of new, custom faces that rock!

-I've seen almost no one else mention this so it might only be me, but for whatever reason, Dash eating that pizza at the end was the most adorably hilarious thing I've seen in quite some time.

NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM
(Seriously, I've watched the episode twice now. I've watched Dash eat this pizza about 20 times.)

Last edited Feb 02, 2014 at 07:34AM EST

@Cute: Just telling someone outright without guessing hints or anything of the like is the logical way to do it, it makes the most sense, it's the most pragmatic/efficient as well as having a near-negligible failure rate compared to anything involving hinting.

So, I was at the civil service center this past month…

Oh, hold on a minute, this'll require a more detailed explanation. Let's recap the backstory since we've got some new folks here and the rest of you probably don't remember.

I'm from Finland, so that means there are certain punishments one must suffer if one has been born with the dangly bits. One such punishment is universal male conscription, since this country is stuck in the myth of the Winter War hasn't realized WW2 was nearly 70 years ago.

Since I ain't certifiably disabled or insane enough (yet) to disqualify, I'm not exempt from this mandate. So I served some time in the army. Hated it right from the get-go, but I figured if I got through basic training I might land a relatively cushy job as a scribe or a cook or something. No such luck. My destiny was to haul 10kg missiles from A to B all the live long day. Just haul them, mind you, would never even have gotten to launch them. So I decided to tell fate to go fuck itself and walked out.

'Course, you don't just quit a state-given responsibility. Those who will not serve in combat will serve on the firing line in an alternative, civilian service. Which is basically just working an ordinary job for below minimum wage.

Before one can do that, though, they must serve a month-long stint in Finland's only training center for civil servants, Lapinjärvi. That's what I've been doing this past month. Wasn't too bad, the beds were shit, the food was so-so and since it's the very heart of the chilling Finnish winter, it was a bit nippy too. But a bearable enough experience nevertheless.

Surprisingly enough, this story does have something to do with pony, as well. See, since the center's the refuge of all kinds of societal rejects, there's evidently quite a few bronies in the mix. Judging by these pictures, at least:

These were posted on various notice boards around the complex. Somebody had apparently decided the last one would look better in between two window panes instead.

The reception desk of building A had a brushable rarity in the back, there.

And finally, this was on one the cleaning closets.

Since the center is effectively a state institution, it could be extrapolated that the Finnish government has been infiltrated by bronies. We're one step closer to world domination, gentlemen (and ladies).

There was one fellow who was quite proud to be a brony, as well. Wore a bracelet and a shirt and everything. Didn't have a conversation with him, though. I was too busy playing D&D and drawing to bother, har har.

Speaking of, I produced quite a bit of art over there. Must have been the boredom. Anyhow, I'd like some critique, if you please:

Armour's always been an obsession of mine. The second one's a bit incomplete since I started it late in the evening and it started to get a bit overcomplicated for my tired eyes.

So I had a thought a while back, why not have a snake who's empathic and kind, instead of the usual stereotype? I originally intended to have her look more vulnerable, but I kind of like how it ended up. The second one I've had knocking around my noggin' for a long time. I was inspired by this song, specifically by the lines about the "raggle-taggle gypsy". Well, she's neither of those, but dammit, I wants to draw me some pretty freaking unicorns, and no bloody lyrics are gonna stand in my way!

And this is pretty much the culmination of my work thus far. Hell, I even did it all proper-like, with preliminary sketches and everything. I'm quite happy with how it turned out, but it's hardly where I intend to stop. Now if I could just be a bit less lazy about it…

Oh, and as a last note, I'm making like Twilight and going to work at a library. Heh.

Last edited Feb 02, 2014 at 09:01AM EST

Cute Master was all like:

They’re obviously putting a little bit of money and extra treatment into it instead of “lets’ produce cheap dub overs to sell twice the toys!”

Jesus, could you imagine how that would have ended up? shudder


Stunt was all like:

So, do you think this really was a nod to Cupcakes?

Maaaaaybe…

@Brownmane

I really dislike anthro stuff, but you did a nice job technically speaking. I can't think of anything to critique with the armor drawings. The only thing really wrong with the snake and sitting horse are the hands because they're fucking hands. God, I hate drawing hands.

As for couch horse, I think it's clever how you tried to combine human legs and horse legs, but the end result is that they look just too damn long. Imagine that creature trying to stand up. Just something to keep in mind, it's fine if you want your character to look like they're standing on stilts when they walk. Besides that, I think the one big problem with couch horse is that the lower body and legs don't quite match. The lower body looks like she's sitting upright on the couch while the legs are forced to jeer out at an awkward angle to look like they're laying on the couch.

And again, there's also the fact that they're chimeric monstrosities born of the Frankenstein mind of some depraved Finn, but I realize there's really no helping that :)

Last edited Feb 02, 2014 at 10:41AM EST

@Brownmane:
Those drawings are pretty nice, just as with any piece there are things that could have been better

Human knight: The detailing in the armor is nice and I particularly like the chainmail, but the pose is pretty awkward and mannequin-like. The blank eyes are kinda creepy too. I suppose if this was more just for practicing armor designs that's alright, because the armor is pretty successful.

Horse knight: The stance is very cool and all the proportions seem to check out, I also adore how clean the lines on the sword look (swords always end up looking like a mess when I draw them). The armor detailing is nice and I especially like that we can see the pegs holding the metal together, but it looks too flat, as if it was drawn on the body instead of looking like the knight is wearing it. If you had the layers of metal stick out more and look like they are laying on other pieces of metal instead directly on the body then it would help.

Snake: This is probably my favorite one of the batch. I like the concept and the design is simple but cool. I think the shoulder should be a little more relaxed though. The lines along her tail are pretty wobbly and that bugs the hell out of me too.

Unicorn: I like this one, too, particularly the placement and detailing on the horn and her earing. The arms are all out of whack, though. The arm reaching out is too long and the one on the chair is too short and doesn't even look like it's resting on the chair properly. Her thigh's look a little too short too. Foreshortening is a bitch and sitting poses are difficult to pull off at times. The breasts are also too high on her chest. Breasts do not go right up to the collarbone like that. I feel that this drawing could be better if you take a little more time to see how people actually look when doing poses like this. It may seem a little silly, but taking pictures of yourself (or friends) doing these poses or looking at yourself in the mirror can go a long way.

Couch: The only issue I have with this one is that, as Fifths said, the legs are too long. The horse-human legs on the knight look natural and the proportions are good, but on this one they feel a teensy too long to be able to support her properly. Her right shoulder also looks a little disjointed. But the rest of the proportions check out and the couch looks really nice.

I don't know what you do with your art, if you just do it for personal use or if you post it all over the internet for everyone to see, but I think your drawings will be brought up a notch and look a little cleaner if you line them with pen when you are done with the pencil sketch. You don't need a fancy pen either, a simple ballpoint will suffice. It makes them easier to see when scanned in, and they'll last longer than pencil and won't become a smudgy mess. I also suggest playing around with shadows more. They're tricky to pull off at times, but when they're done right they add a lot of appeal to your drawings.


@Filly Bon-bon looking like Twist:

It is now my headcanon that Bon-bon is Twist's mother.

I adore this scene. I just found it so funny that Pinkie tried to appear happy and failed, but I also like that it added a bit of dimension to her character, being the element of laughter she doesn't want anyone to know when she is sad. It was one of the few moments in the episode where I feel that Pinkie's emotions were properly fleshed out. Also the face is hilariously creepy and reminds me of Smile HD (yes, I did just bring that up again)

@Fifths

Ah yes, hands. The bane of artists everywhere. Though I think I did them rather well here. Well, some more than others, but anyhow.

The long legs are sort of the point, yeah. I figure equids ought to stand tall and proud.

@Crimson Locks

Well, the human armour is called cataphract, and so are the ones wearing it. Yes, I know that's almost the same as a knight, but I like being pedantic. And if it does look creepy, then I did my job right. The wearer's undead.

Yeah, I kinda did exactly that with the horse knight. Just drew a basic body and slapped on some armour. I was kinda lazy with that. The sword was done with a ruler, I've had enough trouble with swords in the past to not even bother with freehand anymore.

Well, the snake's tense shoulder makes sense if you consider that she's probably an outcast among her own kind as well as the rest of society. So, she'd like to be more open and loving, but can't help being apprehensive due to the usual reaction she gets.

Yeah, I kinda half-assed the unicorn towards the end, as well. I should stop trying to art so close to the witching hour. As for the boobs, well, I didn't have references handy. Would have been a bad move to bring porn to a public setting, I figured. As for the poses, yeah, I've thought about that. Too bad I don't have the space or privacy to conduct photoshoots effectively.

Yeah, the couch horse's proportions are a bit off. I should get me a proper drawing table, I think the optical distortions created by a flat surface are throwing me off too much. The shoulders are supposed to look uneven, since a pose like that requires curving the body to the side. I think I kinda screwed up the pose as a whole, though. Oh well.

Oh, and it's called a chaise longue.

As for what my art's all about, well, just general practice at the moment. I've got lofty goals of making a career as an artist, but I lack the necessary skill at the moment and I'm having some doubts about it, on account of the whole starving artist thing.

Yeah, I've had inking recommended to me before. I dunno though, I figure it could be done digitally too, with the added bonus of easy fixing. I'll just have to figure out how to work this accursed drawing tablet. And yeah, I really need to work on my shading. Damn, I wish the art classes I took as a wee lad had taught some actual technique. They all feel like wasted effort now.

Erin ◕ω◕ wrote:

OH GAWD! I CLICKED ON THIS BY ACCIDENT… XD
+1 for proper usage of a hyperlink!

@Alex Mercer
IMMATOONLINK jokes are best jokes.

And that second one…

You could probably just add a 7 onto that and everything would be fine.

>The state of TV today in a nutshell. XD

And CC MY ASS! I wan't to know what he said!
(No offense ass.)

Guys… did no one think of this? We obviously do have a portal to Equestria now!

Only problem is where to find it… other than the basement, there is the one in some random swamp…

@ Filly Lyra
While admittedly not my favorite part of the episode, it was still adorable to see fillies of ponies, especially Lyra hopping up and down was absolutely adorable.

@ Goof Off
This was my favorite moment of the episode by far.

Smashing Pinatas to this is delightful.

@Favorite moment of the new episode:
I actually don't know what my favorite moment was because it was all so good, but that "Make a Wish" song. I want an extended version of it! I don't even care how much like love in bloom or the other songs it is.


I think my only problem with this episode is the same problem with Magical Mystery Cure. Since that literally half the episode for each episode were musical numbers it kind of hurt the episode in a whole when plots that should at least be around for a little bit are thrown away in a few minutes of song. Like how within 5 minutes of MMC Twilight feels upset for her mistake then suddenly "Oh hey I know what to do!" and boom save the day, or how in this episode Pinkie gets sad but is suddenly cheered up 2 minutes later and goes out to challenge Weird Al pony.

But this works out a lot better in Pinkie Pride as the main plot is basically "Hey no, I wanted to throw this party! I will beat you in a goof off!" whereas MMC was juggling 2 different plots at the same time, one of those plot lines involve drastically changing the entire series in less than 7 minutes! So I think in the end Pinkie Pride will have the advantage there because I feel as if that's the kind of episode that can afford devoting half the episode to musical numbers compared to the Season Finale that made such a drastic effect on the show.

Also, I stand by my stance when I said that Pinkie Pie works the best when the episode is devoted to her. In episodes where she's only a side character is where she's just….not as good. She has her moments sure but when she's just there to make us laugh at some goofy scenes of her doing the Ol' Bugs Bunny Schtick or just acting wild and crazy she just doesn't get to be the Pinkie Pie we see in Griffon the Brush Off, Party for One, Friend in Deed, Pinkie Pride or even Too Many Pinkies. She can either be a strong and well developed character or just that wacky and zany and sometimes quite fucking annoying character when the writers want….Although I'd prefer the first option.

Also: You'll never have Pinkie Pie throw an amazing party for you.

Time is always a battle in tv episodes, but it's going to be even more of a struggle for MLP. I doubt they'd ever bump the episodes up to 1hr in length (or 45min). If they did, then they might actually come to a point where they weren't feeling rushed for us, but not only would that make each season produced cost twice as much, it probably wouldn't appeal to the target audience as much. There's a reason why most adult films average 120 minutes vs kids movies who often barely push an hour to 90 minutes, and that's because of the difference in a kid's and an adult's attention span. The same with 45 minute adult tv shows verses their 22 minute kid's counter parts. More time is going to mean more dialogue, and that can bore/loose the attention of the viewers. Less viewers means less toy sales for them, and they have to maximize a profit somewhere. If WE were ever considered the primary audience, then this might become a possibility, but I doubt we're raking in the cash for them like the little girls are. Of course they probably measure this by toy sales and we are certainly pushing up those numbers, but it's hard to distinguish who is the primary buyer of these toys when they're all coming from generic stores that don't track customer data. I don't know how the sales of all of the TCG and other "brony" stuff is going though.

Tl;dr: Blah, Blah, Blah economics. Blah, Blah, Blah primary target audience. Here, have some baby cakes for your troubles.



Last edited Feb 03, 2014 at 01:44AM EST

The Cutie Master :3 said:

Time is always a battle in tv episodes, but it’s going to be even more of a struggle for MLP. I doubt they’d ever bump the episodes up to 1hr in length (or 45min). If they did, then they might actually come to a point where they weren’t feeling rushed for us, but not only would that make each season produced cost twice as much, it probably wouldn’t appeal to the target audience as much

The funniest part is the fact that, originally, the show was going to have two twelve minute episodes per half an hour slot (That's why Rogers had to help Faust write Ticket Master. It was a twelve minute episode and they had to pad it out.)

I seem to recall some rumors triggered by vague statements mktoons (the Hasbro Studios exec) made on Twitter about expanded episodes.It would definitely expand production costs, but it would also double advertising revenue, and since ponies are the highest rated show on the network and the network emerges money, that could be lucrative.

They've probably already crunched the numbers, though. The fact is, most of the money made is from the merch and doubling the pone wouldn't raise sales very much.

Last edited Feb 03, 2014 at 08:29AM EST

@Make a Wish:
I'm actually pretty surprised so many people have warmed up to this song. I personally am pretty meh about it. If there's going to be a character doing a pop-y song I prefer it to be Pinkie or in some cases Rarity, so at least there's that. Still, I expected more people to compare this song to "This is Our Big Night" from Equestria Girls and have a knee-jerk reaction to it because this song immediately reminded me of that movie's song style.

I didn't think about it much the first time I saw this episode, but now I totally ship Pinkie and Cheese (CheesePie? PinkieSandwich?). Could this be my first ever non-canon MLP ship? This is a big day indeed.

20% Cooler than Ice Rinsankajugin wrote:

Guys… Michael is gone…

No, he isn't. People just assumed he died because Purple Tinker used the words "postmortem" on the donation site without thinking. Don't forget to fact-check information before posting it.

Source



This is a horse.

Last edited Feb 03, 2014 at 11:22AM EST

Sonata Dusk wrote:

No, he isn't. People just assumed he died because Purple Tinker used the words "postmortem" on the donation site without thinking. Don't forget to fact-check information before posting it.

Source



This is a horse.

Oh thank goodness, I thought it was true.

Apparently the way "Postmortem" was used here was to portray an afterward analysis. I'm pretty sure that's an unused definition though.

Last edited Feb 03, 2014 at 11:47AM EST

BSOD wrote:

May I join this butt talk?

Pull up a chair and join us, and let's talk about butts.


@Filly background pones:

HNNNNNG

Last edited Feb 03, 2014 at 01:33PM EST

@Mike and Blue
Ah, yes. The first weekly meeting of the Plot Examining and Roundness Validating Squad is now underway. The first item on our list… butts. Good thing or best thing? Discuss.

The second item is… more butts. I honestly don't think we'll have enough to have this meeting every week, guys…


@Master Parrot, Jimmy and Crimson
Wait, so you guys actually read that crap I put up there?
Wow… I'm sorry for wasting your time.

Last edited Feb 03, 2014 at 03:15PM EST

Stunthead wrote:

@Mike and Blue
Ah, yes. The first weekly meeting of the Plot Examining and Roundness Validating Squad is now underway. The first item on our list… butts. Good thing or best thing? Discuss.

The second item is… more butts. I honestly don't think we'll have enough to have this meeting every week, guys…


@Master Parrot, Jimmy and Crimson
Wait, so you guys actually read that crap I put up there?
Wow… I'm sorry for wasting your time.

I read it all, but then I got distracted by ponies. XD

Did you notice how they lit up everything with fireflies. I mean they could have cheap'd out and just put in regular lights, but no, they went with fireflies.

I actually half expected Dash to wind up in the hospital after that fall and the birthday party being ruined. Glad it didn't, otherwise we wouldn't have gotten that "Make a Wish" song.

And it was at that point I lost it. I almost wish that had actually happened as well. Whoever made that gif needs a medal.

Now Stunthead, you owe me $37.62 for wasting my time as well. I'll also take a pony as payment. A filly would be preferable…for science of course…

Sonata Dusk wrote:

No, he isn't. People just assumed he died because Purple Tinker used the words "postmortem" on the donation site without thinking. Don't forget to fact-check information before posting it.

Source



This is a horse.


Purple Tinker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm still calling it the P.E.R.V squad, but I suppose The Butt Club works too.

How foolish we were to think we would be losing these "one image relating to a certain topic and nothing else" posts when S4 came around. Foolish, foolish fools.


@The Cute Master
Pfft, fine. Take all the money you want. So long as I get to keep the ponies to myself.

Last edited Feb 03, 2014 at 10:17PM EST

Stunthead wrote:

I'm still calling it the P.E.R.V squad, but I suppose The Butt Club works too.

How foolish we were to think we would be losing these "one image relating to a certain topic and nothing else" posts when S4 came around. Foolish, foolish fools.


@The Cute Master
Pfft, fine. Take all the money you want. So long as I get to keep the ponies to myself.

Woohoo! I'm rich!

Oh hai Hasbro!

Oh hai MLP staff!

Last edited Feb 04, 2014 at 12:08AM EST

after the Cloudchaser and Flitter sketch i had an idea.
i have several MLP request doodles that never saw the light of day because i had problems with the pieces. the proportions were wrong, didn’t feel right, wonky faces, and some just straight out abandoned.
now i’ve gone back, picked a handful of them and revived them. re-sketched them and everything.
i’ll get to work on some actual new MLP art soon, but for now enjoy the lost requests.

>now i’ve gone back, picked a handful of them and revived them. re-sketched them and everything. i’ll get to work on some actual new MLP art soon, but for now enjoy the lost requests.
>i’ll get to work on some actual new MLP art soon

Last edited Feb 04, 2014 at 12:37AM EST

@Tinker's colossal fuck up

I pretty much have to overlook this and the fact that it scared the shit out of me because the fundraiser itself was pretty successful. You can say what you want about Tinker (and I have) but she did a pretty great thing here.

@Buttz

Whelp, time to check the Pony Gener--



@Blue Screen

Oh, I see we've entered that phase again. Soon, we'll be back to /kym/ and I can post that picture of Fluttershy that I posted in the Cringe General.

Do not underestimate the power of the…
BUTTS!
With great booty comes great responsibility…


@Stunt

Twilight Sparkle doesn't abide non-readers!


@Verbose
Thelivingmachine is back?!
Searching…

Eeeeeee!


And while we are celebrating artists, did anyone else know that Andrea Libman voices Pinkie Pie and Fluttershy and is a talented artist to boot?

<div class=spoiler title="Such Talent!">


Sticky is best pony!
(Yes, she did this as a goof for a con down in Austrailia last weekend. Andrea is very silly!)

dirudiru wrote:

The Cute Master :3 wrote:

Guys, I accidentally two trademarks. Wat do?

Add butts

Butts truly are magic. So are cheerleaders. Hey, speaking of…


Oh hey, a page get. I'm assuming cheerleaders?

And bat ponies. Can't forget bat ponies.

Last edited Feb 04, 2014 at 05:55PM EST
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