While I really didn't know anything about the DWM thing, I can understand their standing point. (Not that I support them.) I find dark/cruel humor funny and don't get easily offended, yet I keep these jokes to myself to prevent conflicts. Some people just don't share the same humor as one does, I respect that. I'm against censorship, though. That's the worst evil that could ever exist. While It may be offensive, it's just made for comedic purposes and isn't embracing people to sexually assault anybody. That being the case, I would consider their argument irrelevant.
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I only used "feminazi" to refer to a small group of people who take the whole thing too seriously. The same thing with "autistic". I don't like close-minded people, and seeing them take a joke Tumblr about a pony who is really more of a Lovable Sex Maniac than rapist, who even lampshades Luna being more popular than her on her own Tumblr, is something I find incredibly stupid. I may have come off as a jerk, but that's because I didn't clearly explain what I was talking about, and I apologize. I'm going to delete the post to end all further discussion. This is a thread where we talk about cartoon ponies.
EDIT: It's been thirty minutes, so I can't delete the post. Why do we even have this rule, anyway?
I couldn't find any ponies with small faces, so Twiface.
Well, people have already replied, it'll just make things look confusing really.
I'd make a shrunk Twiface, but I lack the skills, I definitely want to try a shruken Derelle though.
I leave you all an apology gift before I sign off for the night.
@Shrunken Faces
I think I can one-up that Twiscream:
Apparently the only picture in DB with an inverted face too.
EDIT: Yours has a vibrating version too, I guess this meme combo must've really clicked.
My last post about DWM drama i promise
But just read this post from a rape victim. Honestly, i don't even…
So is that basically says that we are actually injuring and offending rape victims more with blocking rape pornography or gaining attention via "rape" culture? That's….
We totally forgot the people who we try to protect. We just try to ban something we don't like excuse of rape victims. So tell me.. Who is the real offender here? Yes, "rape" is one the dark humor goes along with "torture", "race", "religion" or those kind of thing that a normal person cannot laugh at. But also being protective or baby sitting is different than dark humor? Most of the protecters does even know the psychology of rape victim?
Pony 2012, Pony 2012, Pony 2012…
Out of all the thing in the world to protest about; World famine, climate change, HIV and aids, and lack of opportunities for females in 3rd world countries (feminists, this should be your main priority). There are people wasting their time with fictional characters in scenarios implying sexual intercourse whether it is consensual or not. I think that those individuals are doing a disservice to real rape victims because it is trivializing their real life experiences and pain. To be honestly, I find that as a mockery of their pain, to stand up against a fictional character which is used for dark comedy, than to support those who have felt the shame and pain of rape. It just goes to show how naive they are of the reality of rape and how they disservice those who they believe they are protecting.
>mfw everything
Sonata Dusk
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I swear… every time I go away from the Forum for a few hours the subject suddenly becomes about rape, Every… Single.. Time…
If I'm honest I've been in the fandom for awhile now and I didn't even know of Gamer Luna till you just mentioned it, though I'm not a Tumblr person.. or any sites like that so that could be why. Though I do try to avoid Molestia, I don't like it personally, I wouldn't say I find it offensive in the sense I want it removed, since I do believe in freedom of speech and I understand dark humor and of course I don't think there's any link between cartoon rape and real-life rape, and my opinions on it are similar to Faust's opinion on Rule 34 as in It's not my thing, though I admit I avoid looking at it, and would rather not have it pointed out or sent to me to me.
My reasons for disliking it, well there are a few reasons, one is that I like the show for it's Universal aspect, and although I can appreciate mature themes if its for a narrative reason I feel that going too far down the mature alley takes away one of the child mentalities that I liked about the show originally, secondly I have known and helped people who have been affected by rape though many conversations and so seeing it imitated through characters of the MLP series which i'm fond of does make me feel uncomfortable if I'm honest, I do agree that removing it would be going too far, and I hate the idea of censorship on that level but as far as Molestia goes it's just not my thing and I do try to avoid it, which is very easy to do, and any images of molestia I simply give an eye roll and ignore, which is also very easy to do. Though as for dark humor on the whole, there are many aspects of dark humor I can find funny, and some of the funniest jokes I know are dark, and I can respect that context is the important part of it which is why molestia doesn't offend me since I get it, however I don't like it.
@Jimmy I think what kind of bugged me about your comment was your use of the word "Autism" since you used it as to describe stupid and over the top behavior as you said, and then you said you used it to describe a small group of people, and although I understand that today online Autism has become a word to describe negative things, however I must stress that Autism isn't a bad thing, and it doesn't mean someone who is stupid or any of the other traits that seem to get attached to it, I'd like to clarify that autism is a brain-related developmental problem and not a mental illness and although I don't think Molestia will affect rape rates in anyway at all, I do think using Autism as an insult does help spread misinformation about what it is and can often give people who have Autism a bad rap, and it's specially not nice since there are many lovely members in the Brony community who are autistic. I know you were saying it in a general way, but I do feel even if it were unintentional that it gives autistic people a negative appearance, it would be similar if people were to term brony into a general insult to describe bad things. So out of all the things you said, I feel that and Feminazi were the two things that pushed what you said over the top a little though I do understand that you didn't mean it in such a way so I'd recommend calling it a learning experience about using the word autism in a negative way.
See, this is what happens when I leave you guys alone for 24 hours. When I left, I pointed out that there was absolutely no diaper fetishes involved over on Youtube. Those diapered characters trotting across the YT search results were babies…you know, those things that normally wear diapers…aaaand people kept going with the freakish daiper trash.
I'm not gonna lie. As much as I've been exposed to that kind of horrors on the net, the whole daiper thing it still disturbs me. Please never post that again.
Like. Ever. Please
And then Jimmy makes a rant that pretty much rustles everyone's jimmies for the rest of the entire page but I think enough has been said on that matter. I pretty much agree with what everyone else said in response.
Well it wouldn't be the first, nor the last nor the greatest shitstorm this thread see's. Lets just try to get past that
Erin ◕ω◕ wrote:
So we went from identifying as a brony, to Colgate, to diaper fetish, to a serious discussion on rape, to shrunken faces.
I’d really love to change the subject, but I just can’t think of anything. These last few pages we had is just too much for me. I’m up for some weird conversations, but I feel like I don’t know what to say. If you’ve seen the shit I posted about rape, then you know why I’m not the best person to have a serious discussion about it. Every other topic seems meaningless right now, even though that’s what I’d rather talk about. Don’t get me wrong, I can talk about rape in a non-joking matter, but again, I’m not the best person to do that. I’m going to sleep now.
Disty wrote:
So we went from identifying as a brony, to Colgate, to diaper fetish, to a serious discussion on rape, to shrunken faces.
I’d really love to change the subject, but I just can’t think of anything. These last few pages we had is just too much for me. I’m up for some weird conversations, but I feel like I don’t know what to say. If you’ve seen the shit I posted about rape, then you know why I’m not the best person to have a serious discussion about it. Every other topic seems meaningless right now, even though that’s what I’d rather talk about. Don’t get me wrong, I can talk about rape in a non-joking matter, but again, I’m not the best person to do that. I’m going to sleep now.
And with me just waking up, I am the perfect being for manufacturing conversation topics out of the first thing that comes to mind.
…And with that…
Out of the entire series… Which pony would wind up being the biggest coffee addict of them?
My bet is Twilight, since she expressly has an interest in both day and night, from star showers to sun raising festivals.
… You kind of can't stay awake for ALL of that without either having Insomnia or some kind of helping hand.
Songsmile is best crack cocaine meth coffee addict.
General Grievous
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>mfw DWM faggots
And /mlp/ is making fun of DWM guys.
@Tumblr Molestia butthurt
It's Tumblr, what do you expect? This is a site where transfat is considered a movement (like "transgender" but with skinny people wanting to become fat or vice versa) and people think they were once turtles. No, really.
I pray every day that it's actually Poe's Law, because the alternative is just too depressing to think about.
I honestly think we're eventually gonna get to the point where people get "offended" no matter what you say or do. That's how absurd it's starting to get. I also think that many of these "feminists" would get "offended" no matter what. If Molestia didn't exist, they'd find something else to be butthurt over (but of course, not anything that would be legitimately concerning to women, like the treatment of women in many Arab countries or FGM that occurs in Africa. Nope it's gotta be something they can whine about "the Patriarchy" and "rape culture" on a blog site).
@Statistics
[citation needed, so I'll do it myself]
According to rainn.org, the actual statistic is: "every two minutes, someone in the United States is sexually assaulted"
Notice the emboldening. "Sexual assault" does not equal "rape" and covers other crimes such as: groping, forced kissing, child sexual abuse, or the torture of the victim in a sexual manner, or threatening to commit a sexual crime. Men are sexually assaulted just as women are.
It's not 1 in 3 women will be raped in their lifetime, it's 1 in 6 American women--which, while still high is quite a bit less. The United Nations reports 250,000 rape/attempted rape cases were filed by the police in 60 countries. That calculates to .0036% of the world population.
Rainn does not have any statistics about how evil men are, so I'm calling bullshit on the third one.
God, Tumblr rustles my jimmies. Now back to ponies to soothe my jimmies.
Lunar Protege said:
Out of the entire series… Which pony would wind up being the biggest coffee addict of them?
I'm going to disregard the cliche answers and say Celestia. All those long hours of government bureaucracy, plus having to be awake at both sunrise and sunset for a thousand years. I can already picture the hilarious comedy fic of the day that she was first introduced to it…I call dibs.
To counter the coffee talk, have one of the oldest discussion topics in the book: Do the characters actually speak English or is it "magically" translated for us to hear?
The funnest part is there's no way to definitively answer it. It's the topic that can never have a winner.
@Coffee: Luna is awake during the day, according to The Crystal Empire and Magical Mystery Cure. I'm going to say she's the coffee pony. Actually, if she's a gamer, wouldn't she drink Monster Energy or something?
xTSGx was all like…
Do the characters actually speak English or is it “magically” translated for us to hear?
I imagine English to be the primary language of Equestria, with Italian being the secondary (I would imagine Cadance to speak Italian as well, as it's one of the languages of love) and Spanish and German both being tertiary.
When "coffee addict" was mentioned Rarity instantly came to mind for me. We've seen her several times in the show have to pull all-nighters for the sake of her business, it makes sense to me.
For that matter, any of the main characters could be a coffee addict. (Applejack? well, considering that it wiped her out to harvest half Sweet Apple Acres by herself when realistically she does about that much work every harvest (Applebloom is too young to help out much, while Granny Smith had a bad hip, and is probably too old to do that much around the farm regardless. Ergo, it's usually Applejack and Big Macintosh. Assume a roughly 50-50 split…) she probably uses coffee to keep from getting so tired. Twilight? well, she may prefer tea to coffee, since she spent so much time aroud Celestia, who definitely prefers tea, but Twilight is a student. Any student can tell you that some form of caffiene is nessecary if you are pulling an all-nighter. Rarity? demands of her business. Pinkie? could be for any of a variety of reasons, but remember coffee shops used to be fairly social places- the ideal environment for Pinkie. Fluttershy? nocturnal animals. She would need something to help her stay awake. Rainbow Dash? takes a fair few naps as it is, during the day, she might use coffee to help her train longer, and the naps are when the coffee is no longer helping.
Iamslow
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@biggest coffee addict
I also like rarity for it
@Disturbed
Yeah lets do it fagets. DOWN WITH MOLESTIA!!11
PRINCESS MERCERESTIA
I think the people who are serious on taking down Molestia should just stop and take a breath and think about it: What will taking down Molestia really do? Will it stop rape forever or will it just take down a tumblr that people will obviously attempt to recreate due to the popularity alone? I'm not going to pretend I'm some Anti-Rape Guru here but I just think this is a really pointless 'campaign' and that's all I'm going to say about the whole 'Down with Molestia' fiasco.
@Different topic. Trying to scroll back through the last few pages to find a topic worth discussing now since I haven't been online in the last day since I was celebrating my birthday the other day…..So I'll partake in the caffeine addiction thread.
@Caffeine addiction. Obviously it's not Pinkie Pie, she doesn't crash. She's obviously on dat cocaine. Rarity and Twilight Sparkle on the other hand….
Once again, ridiculous controversy has sparked a bunch of pointless arguing, but simultaneously spawned a bunch of great jokes and images.
In this specific case, people complaining about the pun name 'Molestia' has renewed people's exploration of other Celestia puns.
So…
@Coffee Addict
May I introduce…
Princess No-Rest-ia!
(Just for the record, I could also see Twilight and Rarity being pretty caffeinated. Fluttershy goes for tea, Pinkie just overloads on sugar, and I just don't get the feeling that RD or AJ would regularly partake. They just don't strike me as the types…)
@Do Ponies 'Speak' English
Hmmm…
If I may posit a silly theory, no.
Ponies are actually speaking in a series of whinnies and snorts and we, as the viewing audience are having it translated for us.
<div class=spoiler title="How, you may ask?">
Simple!
We've all seen the Doctor is in Equestria and everyone knows that his Tardis projects a psychic 'translation matrix' to anyone who has ridden inside allowing them to subconsciously translate any language in the universe.
I say that all 'viewers' of the show are actually watching on a screen inside the Tardis!
No one can see us (except Pinkie, on occasion) but we can hear, see, and understand everything they do!
It all fits!
(No it doesn't)
UnKewln00b wrote:
I think the people who are serious on taking down Molestia should just stop and take a breath and think about it: What will taking down Molestia really do? Will it stop rape forever or will it just take down a tumblr that people will obviously attempt to recreate due to the popularity alone? I'm not going to pretend I'm some Anti-Rape Guru here but I just think this is a really pointless 'campaign' and that's all I'm going to say about the whole 'Down with Molestia' fiasco.
@Different topic. Trying to scroll back through the last few pages to find a topic worth discussing now since I haven't been online in the last day since I was celebrating my birthday the other day…..So I'll partake in the caffeine addiction thread.
@Caffeine addiction. Obviously it's not Pinkie Pie, she doesn't crash. She's obviously on dat cocaine. Rarity and Twilight Sparkle on the other hand….
Pinkie Pie is a cokehead? You know, now that I think about it, she probably would infrequently do drugs at parties and such. As for other ponies and drugs, Fluttershy quite obviously smokes pot.
@Celestia Name Puns: Why not Metalestia?
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After a great but restless night, Blue awoke on a cozy bed, a feeling he rarely experienced. He slowly opened his eyes and stretched his forelegs. He noticed xTSGx wrapped her wings around him, cuddling up to him as she slumbered. He sighed, and decided to relax for a bit more to let her sleep peacefully.
…
xTSGx began to wake up, slowly opening her eyes. She yawned softly, smacking her lips softly afterwards. She turned to Blue, and smiled to herself as she did. She then raised herself up from the bed slowly to prevent Blue from waking up. She carefully lifted herself off the bed, and headed for her costume. She grabbed it from the floor, took it with her to the nearby bathroom, and set it aside on the sink counter. She approached the shower, turned the faucets, and prepared to wash herself.
She heard from the closed doors to the bathroom her bed springing up, knowing Blue was waking up as well. “Blue… you there?” she called out.
“Huh? Oh… yeah…” he spoke, a bit muffled through the door. He was obviously more than a little tired.
“Well… I’ll be out soon. If we’re going to find this stallion, we’re going to have to figure out what we should do and where we should go,” xTSGx stated.
"Sounds like a plan," he replied. He stood up from the bed as well, and decided to look around the lair. I really want to see those computers up close… and what she really uses them for. Blue thought to himself, and he headed towards the large console.
He approached it closely, and he began compressing himself yet again into his viral form. He then zapped into the mainframe, and found himself in the green and black void yet again, but slightly larger than before. He neared a grid like column, and phased into it.
He had entered the computer's memory banks, and began sifting through it, searching through files. Strangely, he could not find any, and he continued going deeper into the banks. After a few moments of hopeless searching, he decided enough was enough, and he turned to leave, until he saw one lone file.
Blue neared it, and searched through it. Much of what was contained inside were photos of newspaper clippings, dating back as far as seven months ago. All of them featured Mare-Do-Well posing as she performed countless acts of heroism, which all involved saving ponies from fatalities. He noticed many of the clippings stating as soon as the ponies were safe, Mare-Do-Well never stuck around, and vanished as soon as everypony was out of danger.
He sifted through all of them, until he came across one last document. It wasn’t a newspaper clipping, but rather a note of some kind. He viewed it carefully, reading each word, and realized it was a note of a therapist, stuck onto her personal records. On it, it described “xTSGx” as “admitting to being lonely… preferring the outcast and isolated life so much as to hide her true name from others… fearing ridicule… almost never seen 24/7… intentionally avoids others constantly… diagnosis: Avoidant Personality Disorder. Recommendation: Sedatives.”
Blue looked at the file, and sadly placed it back into the banks. Wow… She must live terribly… alone most of the time… so much that she has to take doses of… whatever that is. He then turned to leave the memory banks, a bit of guilt and a lot of morose in him. He entered the grid planes again, and began to blur as he returned back into the physical world.
He rebuilt himself as a pony, standing near the console. That’s why she was so nervous yesterday… she didn’t want to upset me. She didn’t want me telling her off for possibly screwing up… He realized where he was, and he quickly left the computer room back into the bedroom. He saw that the bathroom door was still closed, and he heard xTSGx humming to herself happily inside. Many thoughts raced through his mind… all of them concerning what he should do now.
Well, I can always leave here… probably before she comes out of the shower. He thought about it, and wiped that idea clear from his head. No… that would make me worse than Platus… I really don’t want that… especially after the night we shared.He knew he couldn’t leave now… not with what they both felt.
He also knew he couldn't just ignore this either, and he knew something would have to be done with her… but he didn't know what. I'll think of something… for now, let's see what she has in store for finding Platus.
@ Molestia
People relate this to rape… people related Derpy to mental illness… we just have to face it. Almost anything nowadays will be considered offensive to some people, whether we like it or not. I for one just want this to be done, though I am a bit more towards keeping Molestia. Oh, I need a pun for her now… Foalestia!!!
I find this pic so adorable, with little Luna and Celestia happy together!
PRINCESS LELESTIA
Dammit this is sure funny.
@Iamslow
Shrek is love shrek is life..
Yes we /s4s/ now..
PRINCESS SMOKESTIA
@DWM
I can't say much more over this than you already did, just that I think it's bullshit to take that tumblr down.
@Coffee
Okay, I'm back from my weekly binge drinking session and I can actually focus on what the topic here is. Head feels fine but I'm tired as hell.
Looks like I only made one drunk post. That's it? I even used coherent grammar. That's not too bad.
Anyhoo. So it seems we've got another controversy on our hands due to a number of accusations of the Molestia blog supporting 'rape culture'. I have a question: Did this spark from some recent update from Molestia? Or has Molestia just been itself all along and this controversy sparked simply from concerned individuals only finding out about the blog now?
Like most here, I understand that rape is a very, very serious issue in the modern world. But attacking the blog in particular seems like a distraction from the actual problem area. I don't see why it needs to be taken down
Molestia is an exaggerated running joke on a name pun. The character 'molests' things in a way that comes off more like a cheap porno starring a dominatrix alpha female than actual sexual assault. Is it foul? Of course it is. And the comic acknowledges that. It doesn't say that the character and her actions are good or acceptable. I don't believe it is promoting and supporting actual rape.
There's Rape and then there's >rAep
One is a crucial matter that must be taken seriously. The other is wordplay. That's a distinction the internet made long ago, starting with gamers using the latter to describe total game domination. However not everyone is on board with that distinction, leading to people fearing the so called 'rape culture''
But oh well. This seems to be the course of the world in this era. We seem to be entering a very sensitive and reactionary state of society and theres not much that can be done about it.
Out of the entire series… Which pony would wind up being the biggest coffee addict of them?
My money goes on Pinkie as well
@Iamslow
To repeat what I said on DB, I'm a fit for all the last three.
@Celestia puns: "Princess Breastia" seems to be a classic but I'd best not post any pictures regarding that.
@Coffee: Does coffee even exist in the MLP universe?
As for who would use it, I have little to say on the matter, except that it'd probably be fun to give Dash and/or Pinkie some if they aren't already on it.
@Object to your left will be the saver from molestia
>looks left
So am i supposed to make her drunk?
Alex: Or you could hit her with it.
Would work better than the big plastic water bottle to MY left, or my glasses case also to my left.
Thankfully I have a much better weapon- being ugly and undesirable! :D
Hmm, I don't know what I could do with either my house phone or cellphone. I'm fucked I guess.
Funny, the two top comments in that picture had phones, and had vastly different ideas of their effectiveness.
Stunthead
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I have a bookcase to my left… quick! Make a book fort!
She'll never get me in here!
I'd like to say there's a gun to my left, but all I have is my mouse as I'm left handed. Welp, I'm fucked, Maybe literally
The object to my left is
Save me, Mark.
I've been posting a lot of pony merch lately. I'll stop.
Erin ◕ω◕ wrote:
Uhh…
You have any ideas, Scoot?
Don't stop, Disturbed. You'll just make me look like the jerk…
And then JJ responded:
Looks like he's taking this whole controversy about as seriously as he told people to take Molestia!
That warning has been there pretty much since the blog first opened, by the way.
Not a new addition.
Erin ◕ω◕ wrote:
Oh no, it's always the water bottle in these games. Please tell me I moved it to the right.
Don't be the bottle….
Don't be the bottle….
Don't be the bottle….
DAMMIT! What am I supposed to do? Sober her up after Alex gets her drunk?
[edit]
Wait…I have other things to my left. AHA!
Toilet roll!…well I guess it won't be so messy afterwards