There's a gif here that explains the Candace Owens vs. Randi & Zoe issue very well.
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There's a gif here that explains the Candace Owens vs. Randi & Zoe issue very well.
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Dioxin Jimmy wrote:
>"Daring to Defy History."
Translation: "No Facts Included."
Watch the video.
It point pretty well, how this time Anita got less attention and how when she isnt talking about harassment, she gets way less attention.
Bookie wrote:
There's a gif here that explains the Candace Owens vs. Randi & Zoe issue very well.
Edit: Triple new page get!
Never saw the good, the bad, the ugly. The camera pans out with no relevance to who is who that I have no idea who was shot.
In other games Ethics news:
Treehouse still exists and might be working on another beloved franchise. Here's hoping the protagonist doesn't devlove into a ton of "what does the fox say" memes.
Garde wrote:
Never saw the good, the bad, the ugly. The camera pans out with no relevance to who is who that I have no idea who was shot.
In other games Ethics news:
Treehouse still exists and might be working on another beloved franchise. Here's hoping the protagonist doesn't devlove into a ton of "what does the fox say" memes.
This may be overly optimistic, but the only memes I've seen so far are from Star Fox, "Do a Barrel Roll" and "Can't let you do that Star Fox" and what not, besides I'll be morbidly impressed if they do fuck the localisation, since the story is basically "4 mercs fight a scientist space monkey in fighter jets IN SPACE"
ActivistZero wrote:
This may be overly optimistic, but the only memes I've seen so far are from Star Fox, "Do a Barrel Roll" and "Can't let you do that Star Fox" and what not, besides I'll be morbidly impressed if they do fuck the localisation, since the story is basically "4 mercs fight a scientist space monkey in fighter jets IN SPACE"
20XX and half of the Smash memes
MexPirateRed wrote:
Watch the video.
It point pretty well, how this time Anita got less attention and how when she isnt talking about harassment, she gets way less attention.
I did watch it, and I agree. The project got far less attention because it didn't enable "victims," and because her reputation has gone to crap.
My comment was a remark on the fact that it's highly unlikely that this series will have anything of merit. And that's if it actually gets made period.
Update on the Candace vs. Zoe shitstorm, it's not looking good for Zoe.
@Garde
In the end scene The Good (#GamerGate) & The Ugly (Candace Owens) both gun down The Bad (Social Justice Warriors) because whatever issues they have with each other are less important then the fact that The Bad is a fucking evil psycho.
Wow. This is becoming an new entity altogether.
So just to make certain. Zoe Quinn, operator of a anti harassment service, possibly conspired/used bots or cronies to harass an anti bullting for profit service. And gamergate is watching both for fallout to use since it could prove that Zoe and Randi conspired to harass themselves and blame gamergate to con sympathizers for support and cash.
Wheres that michael jackson popcorn gif?
Surprised there hasn't been a cave in, in this rabbit hole it is so deep.
Nevermind, found a summary.
HOW A TORPEDOED KICKSTARTER CAMPAIGN UNINTENTIONALLY REVEALED AN UNLIKELY UNIT OF CYBER-TERRORISTS
This makes Fifty Shades of Grey look like a master piece.
This woman is so clueless of why everybody, did everything in their power to stop her.
Garde wrote:
Wow. This is becoming an new entity altogether.
So just to make certain. Zoe Quinn, operator of a anti harassment service, possibly conspired/used bots or cronies to harass an anti bullting for profit service. And gamergate is watching both for fallout to use since it could prove that Zoe and Randi conspired to harass themselves and blame gamergate to con sympathizers for support and cash.
Wheres that michael jackson popcorn gif?
will this do?
MexPirateRed wrote:
HOW A TORPEDOED KICKSTARTER CAMPAIGN UNINTENTIONALLY REVEALED AN UNLIKELY UNIT OF CYBER-TERRORISTS
This makes Fifty Shades of Grey look like a master piece.
This woman is so clueless of why everybody, did everything in their power to stop her.
This is insane. They really are going to eat each other aren't they?
DirkDiggums wrote:
This is insane. They really are going to eat each other aren't they?
Right now it's looking like the SJW version of Highlander.
"THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!"
That would make this so much easier
MexPirateRed wrote:
HOW A TORPEDOED KICKSTARTER CAMPAIGN UNINTENTIONALLY REVEALED AN UNLIKELY UNIT OF CYBER-TERRORISTS
This makes Fifty Shades of Grey look like a master piece.
This woman is so clueless of why everybody, did everything in their power to stop her.
You know. Reading this, specially when she mentions her dislike for some feminist trends and the fact that she claims to be a capitalist fo sorts, makes me think she is not an SJW but only someone naive and with good intentions who made the mistake of getting too close to SJWs in many ways.
It also gives me a bad feeling because of something she said. It is not impossible for SJWs to infiltrate us in order to target someone they don't like. They have tried that before without success because they called for harassment and often directed toward invalid targets, but what if they would find a common potential target and changed their methods.
I think we have found a naive person, rather new to the internet and it's working, who is actually not an SJW, just a blind idealist with a flawed yet good intention and who actually posed a threat to actual SJWs. A neutral bystander who got hit in the crossfire and used as a meat shield by SJWs. I think we should stand neutral to her until she proves action is necessary.
AlarkozTheAncient wrote:
You know. Reading this, specially when she mentions her dislike for some feminist trends and the fact that she claims to be a capitalist fo sorts, makes me think she is not an SJW but only someone naive and with good intentions who made the mistake of getting too close to SJWs in many ways.
It also gives me a bad feeling because of something she said. It is not impossible for SJWs to infiltrate us in order to target someone they don't like. They have tried that before without success because they called for harassment and often directed toward invalid targets, but what if they would find a common potential target and changed their methods.
I think we have found a naive person, rather new to the internet and it's working, who is actually not an SJW, just a blind idealist with a flawed yet good intention and who actually posed a threat to actual SJWs. A neutral bystander who got hit in the crossfire and used as a meat shield by SJWs. I think we should stand neutral to her until she proves action is necessary.
Good point. I kinda feel about some of the things I said about her
AlarkozTheAncient wrote:
You know. Reading this, specially when she mentions her dislike for some feminist trends and the fact that she claims to be a capitalist fo sorts, makes me think she is not an SJW but only someone naive and with good intentions who made the mistake of getting too close to SJWs in many ways.
It also gives me a bad feeling because of something she said. It is not impossible for SJWs to infiltrate us in order to target someone they don't like. They have tried that before without success because they called for harassment and often directed toward invalid targets, but what if they would find a common potential target and changed their methods.
I think we have found a naive person, rather new to the internet and it's working, who is actually not an SJW, just a blind idealist with a flawed yet good intention and who actually posed a threat to actual SJWs. A neutral bystander who got hit in the crossfire and used as a meat shield by SJWs. I think we should stand neutral to her until she proves action is necessary.
Good point. I kinda feel about some of the things I said about her
We could wipe their nest out. Made by sargon himself
Those who have concerns about the US/EU of SMT X FE can rest easy, the localisation is being handled by Atlus
http://gonintendo.com/stories/256333-tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe-localization-being-handled-by-atlus
TL;DR: Jesse Singal is both extraordinarily scummy and in extraordinarily deep shit.
1/ I want to talk about why I am not at Pax East.
Last year, paid PAX employee followed me around, and RTing death threats from Gamergate.
2/ PAX did permanently ban this employee from convention, but they also did not address calls @giantspacekat placed about death threats.
3/ Like @fullbright, my company has been deeply torn on supporting PAX, specifically over their "rape is a joke" attitude and transphobia.
4/ PAX East also gave a booth to RougeStar this year, someone with a long, long history of threatening to kill feminists, including me.
5/ I contend that this pattern means something about PAX East's values.
6/ To be honest, I am disappointed that so many people, including colleagues, are fine with attending this show given this pattern.
Who is that Pokemon?
IS WUNONSENSE
Devi Ever telling Social Autopsy that Wu and her friends make her leave the indy game scene for a time.
MexPirateRed wrote:
1/ I want to talk about why I am not at Pax East.
Last year, paid PAX employee followed me around, and RTing death threats from Gamergate.
2/ PAX did permanently ban this employee from convention, but they also did not address calls @giantspacekat placed about death threats.
3/ Like @fullbright, my company has been deeply torn on supporting PAX, specifically over their "rape is a joke" attitude and transphobia.
4/ PAX East also gave a booth to RougeStar this year, someone with a long, long history of threatening to kill feminists, including me.
5/ I contend that this pattern means something about PAX East's values.
6/ To be honest, I am disappointed that so many people, including colleagues, are fine with attending this show given this pattern.
Who is that Pokemon?
IS WUNONSENSE
Devi Ever telling Social Autopsy that Wu and her friends make her leave the indy game scene for a time.
Wait, PAX East is not PC? Well, I guess it is back in my list of events I would like to attend to.
Bookie wrote:
TL;DR: Jesse Singal is both extraordinarily scummy and in extraordinarily deep shit.
I get the feeling Owens is the kind of well intentioned noob who walks right into the antlion's maw trying to do good things and ends up losing hope in her own good intentions.
Something she is starting to notice and I believe goes deeper is that some activist groups seek profit in their causes and create the problems they get paid to solve.
That reminds me of Final Fantasy Tactics A2. There is a quest line which starts by you supporting an endangered monsters protection group and ends up revealing that the top dogs of the group are actually underlings of a local crime syndicate which actually uses the endangered species awareness to increase the demand and cost of products made with those animals and basically makes profit for poachers by raising awareness over endangered species.
It makes me wonder how many activist groups could be like that, ever since I played that quest I began to consider it was not impossible in real life, and the more dirt is uncovered among SJWs and activists, including unsavory acts done by PETA and Green Peace (See PETA's kill shelters and Nazca Lines for further reference), I get the feeling it could be truth and that in fact raising the awareness over for example the potential extinction of panda bears, tigers, and elephants lead to people which behave like Charles Montgomery Burns to pay more to poacher for those animals and maybe some activists are colluded with poachers splitting the profits.
I guess humans are truly prone to corruption.
I'd figure I'd ask here since it does relate to Jornalistic Ethics.
I regards to Polygon's review (or more accurately lack of) of Star Fox Zero, apparently they had recieved a review copy of the game.
Because of that. Should Polygon be morally and/or legally obliged to complete the game and give an honest score based on their experiance
ActivistZero wrote:
I'd figure I'd ask here since it does relate to Jornalistic Ethics.
I regards to Polygon's review (or more accurately lack of) of Star Fox Zero, apparently they had recieved a review copy of the game.
Because of that. Should Polygon be morally and/or legally obliged to complete the game and give an honest score based on their experiance
Yes. But Polygon is shit. Why would they?
Also, Star Fox Guard is like the new Chao Garden.
ActivistZero wrote:
I'd figure I'd ask here since it does relate to Jornalistic Ethics.
I regards to Polygon's review (or more accurately lack of) of Star Fox Zero, apparently they had recieved a review copy of the game.
Because of that. Should Polygon be morally and/or legally obliged to complete the game and give an honest score based on their experiance
I think they should play through it as much as they can, but they don't necessarily have to go through and complete side mission or discover every secret in the game.
robertman2 wrote:
Yes. But Polygon is shit. Why would they?
Also, Star Fox Guard is like the new Chao Garden.
I bought it on launch day, but haven't gotten to play it yet. I want to try to play it after church today.
Dioxin Jimmy wrote:
I think they should play through it as much as they can, but they don't necessarily have to go through and complete side mission or discover every secret in the game.
They didn't even finish it.
And its like a two hour game.
They're just lazy fucks
Hunh. Well this is an odd parallel to the Candace Owens / zoe Quinn Fiasco.
So this would be ethics in Political Journalism and Social Media
TL;DR a previous Hillary Supporter was paid an average of 100$ a week to post pro-hillary stuff, then in September it switched to a negative tone against Bernie Sanders and slipped into fabrication and lies. (But hey its on the internet so these opinions MUST be true!)
It details how a false narrative can spread and how one can buy publicity to support an unpopular opinion. This is probably no new news, but if proven true It could support how certian shills are being bankrolled to be gamergate attackers and explain where all that extra money thats being "donated" is going.
Pay shills to plant information that then paid or unethical media reports on to paint an image of oppression which is then picked up by mainstream to report on and then in about 6 months we get CSI:Special Snowflake Unit. During which, once the narrarative is bought, money pours in to keep this cycle funded and the payer for all this can use thier new Martyr status to say "well I can't grant the miracle I promised because the Demon I fabricated is especially evil this year."
Of course theres little evidence to support this that needs to be confirmed and unless theres a bankroll of paypal/patreon transactions (or steam keys for harassment on twitter) and/or blogs of collusion showing people directed to fabricate a narrarative (gamejurnopros, @primape) then this post is all just speculation.
So, trust but verify.
Dioxin Jimmy wrote:
I bought it on launch day, but haven't gotten to play it yet. I want to try to play it after church today.
It's quite fun. I enjoy it
ActivistZero wrote:
I'd figure I'd ask here since it does relate to Jornalistic Ethics.
I regards to Polygon's review (or more accurately lack of) of Star Fox Zero, apparently they had recieved a review copy of the game.
Because of that. Should Polygon be morally and/or legally obliged to complete the game and give an honest score based on their experiance
That's not true in the slightest.
Look, I despise Polygon as much as the next guy, but the reality of a reviewer's life is that they get about 10 review keys a day, from every up-and-coming developer on the planet. If the rule was that they have to review every game they get a key for, they would be pumping out 10-20 reviews a day, with a staff of 100 to write them all. That's not realistic.
TotalBiscuit has even said this. It is impossible to cover every game you are offered. You have to pick and chose which ones will generate you most revenue by covering, because after all, reviewing is still a business.
Is there anything unethical about their choosing to not cover Star Fox: Zero? I don't know, but I'm not assuming there is until I see proof. It's a very tenuous thread at best currently.
robertman2 wrote:
They didn't even finish it.
And its like a two hour game.
They're just lazy fucks
Oh, so it's one of those short games that's fun to replay? Like StarFox 64?
Dioxin Jimmy wrote:
Oh, so it's one of those short games that's fun to replay? Like StarFox 64?
Exactly like Star Fox 64
If you love Star Fox 64 like I do then you'll love Star Fox Zero. Plenty of old and new to enjoy. The fact I saw some people on sites like GoNintendo using Polygon's review as a form of "conformation bias" (these people already decided months ago they weren't gonna give the game a chance, but they still like to complain about it anyway) made me just go "seriously when the hell did the GoNintendo community become this fucking pessimistic?" I still go the site for news, but not for the community.
Also check out the end of this review by Jirard the Completionist, he basically gives a speech that tells off people like Polygon who refused to give the game a proper chance:
Skip to 31:00, I forgot how to embed at a specific spot in the video.
Mistress Fortune wrote:
If you love Star Fox 64 like I do then you'll love Star Fox Zero. Plenty of old and new to enjoy. The fact I saw some people on sites like GoNintendo using Polygon's review as a form of "conformation bias" (these people already decided months ago they weren't gonna give the game a chance, but they still like to complain about it anyway) made me just go "seriously when the hell did the GoNintendo community become this fucking pessimistic?" I still go the site for news, but not for the community.
Also check out the end of this review by Jirard the Completionist, he basically gives a speech that tells off people like Polygon who refused to give the game a proper chance:
Skip to 31:00, I forgot how to embed at a specific spot in the video.
Also, there's an amazing part with Peppy
Mistress Fortune wrote:
If you love Star Fox 64 like I do then you'll love Star Fox Zero. Plenty of old and new to enjoy. The fact I saw some people on sites like GoNintendo using Polygon's review as a form of "conformation bias" (these people already decided months ago they weren't gonna give the game a chance, but they still like to complain about it anyway) made me just go "seriously when the hell did the GoNintendo community become this fucking pessimistic?" I still go the site for news, but not for the community.
Also check out the end of this review by Jirard the Completionist, he basically gives a speech that tells off people like Polygon who refused to give the game a proper chance:
Skip to 31:00, I forgot how to embed at a specific spot in the video.
Is it really pessimistic to expect the obvious from pejorative hacks?
Dioxin Jimmy wrote:
Is it really pessimistic to expect the obvious from pejorative hacks?
I meant more that the fact some people are taking taking the Polygon review seriously as a way to say "see I told you this game would be shit."
A compilation of evidence concerning the whole social media police war
TL;DR: Basically a reduction of the ongoing journalistic investigation that GG and investigative Journalism is running into the whole Quinn, Harper, Candace thing, complete with the evidence (and circumstantial evidence) that supports the claim of what's going on. To some it's a smoking gun, to others its a conspiracy theory.
Again, the same mantra as before:
Trust, but verify.
Edit: Raw link for image proofs
Garde wrote:
A compilation of evidence concerning the whole social media police war
TL;DR: Basically a reduction of the ongoing journalistic investigation that GG and investigative Journalism is running into the whole Quinn, Harper, Candace thing, complete with the evidence (and circumstantial evidence) that supports the claim of what's going on. To some it's a smoking gun, to others its a conspiracy theory.
Again, the same mantra as before:
Trust, but verify.
Edit: Raw link for image proofs
Opinion
I just realized something. Let's look at the scandals from a social perspective. And by that I mean the people involved with the hashtag.
Consider the tactics of Anti- that have been used: manipulation, lying, unkept promises, control over the opposition at any cost, martyr complex, villainization of opposition and those that support for even daring to think differently.
This isn't just politics, it's an abusive relationship tactics blown up to a massive scale.
I looked at #Gamergate as the "ex-" whatever in the relationship with the previous partner (Anita, McIntosh, Quinn, Harper, Wu…) out for reputation destruction, and had a moment of clarity.
These people don't need victim support, they need therapy.
End opinion
Even though I frankly don't think this is affecting the game in any negative fashion, it looks like Tokyo Mirage Sessions North American version is toning down the amount of fanservice, as the demo at PAX shows that a dungeon that's covered in posters of anime girls in bikinis have had the outfits altered to be less risque. Also the game's boxart on GameStop's website shows the game is rated T for North America, so chances are the fanservice was toned down in order for the game to get a T rating instead of M.
Frankly I don't even feel "da essjaydubyas" are to blame for this. When the game was first shown off last year I saw people complaining the game looked like "weaboo bait" and that it would "only appeal to the type of geeks/otaku who enjoy things like idol groups and jack off to anime tiddies." So frankly yes it wasn't SJW types I saw complaining about the game, it was other gamer nerds who don't care for games that are "overly anime." Also remember it's still Atlus handling the localization, so if you're gonna blame any company blame them.
Mistress Fortune wrote:
Even though I frankly don't think this is affecting the game in any negative fashion, it looks like Tokyo Mirage Sessions North American version is toning down the amount of fanservice, as the demo at PAX shows that a dungeon that's covered in posters of anime girls in bikinis have had the outfits altered to be less risque. Also the game's boxart on GameStop's website shows the game is rated T for North America, so chances are the fanservice was toned down in order for the game to get a T rating instead of M.
Frankly I don't even feel "da essjaydubyas" are to blame for this. When the game was first shown off last year I saw people complaining the game looked like "weaboo bait" and that it would "only appeal to the type of geeks/otaku who enjoy things like idol groups and jack off to anime tiddies." So frankly yes it wasn't SJW types I saw complaining about the game, it was other gamer nerds who don't care for games that are "overly anime." Also remember it's still Atlus handling the localization, so if you're gonna blame any company blame them.
To be honest, I feel like this isn't really newsworthy. It's some bikinis being removed. It's like the 20th Nintendo game to have this happen.
Also, I'm beginning to wonder if Nintendo of Japan is having the games censored, and not the Treehouse
Mistress Fortune wrote:
Even though I frankly don't think this is affecting the game in any negative fashion, it looks like Tokyo Mirage Sessions North American version is toning down the amount of fanservice, as the demo at PAX shows that a dungeon that's covered in posters of anime girls in bikinis have had the outfits altered to be less risque. Also the game's boxart on GameStop's website shows the game is rated T for North America, so chances are the fanservice was toned down in order for the game to get a T rating instead of M.
Frankly I don't even feel "da essjaydubyas" are to blame for this. When the game was first shown off last year I saw people complaining the game looked like "weaboo bait" and that it would "only appeal to the type of geeks/otaku who enjoy things like idol groups and jack off to anime tiddies." So frankly yes it wasn't SJW types I saw complaining about the game, it was other gamer nerds who don't care for games that are "overly anime." Also remember it's still Atlus handling the localization, so if you're gonna blame any company blame them.
Honestly, I only blame SJWs for censorship when they brag about causing it (Treehouse) or when the devs of a game state it is their fault (Koei Tecmo), I know there are other causes for censorship such as the religious right, soccermoms, narrow minded people who accuse any game with a heavy anime influence and lots of erotic fan service as being "weeaboo" which is no other than an ad hominem used toward anime fans as pointed by Gaijin Goombah, or even sometimes censored by the publishers to lower the rating from AO to M, M to T, or as far as T or M to E10+ for marketing purposes.
This for example was what happened in The Witcher and its sequels, in the PC versions the game is held as AO and has a lot of full frontal nudity and even sex scenes, in the Australian versions and the console versions that content is cut to reduce the rating to M in the console versions and to even get a rating in the Australian edition because the Ausie rating board is full brimming with puritans even before SJWs gained political power there, well, more like it was full of right wing SJWs.
Yes, I believe SJWs are not necessarily of a specific political leaning but a particular mindset, an authoritarian mindset in which they hold their views and concept of justice as the only valid, based on my definition even actual Nazis were SJWs despite their tremendously racist ideology since they were authoritarians who wanted to impose their definition of justice upon others.
I still take issue on any form of censorship however, including self censorship, and find cases of self censorship for reasons such as lowering the game's rating aiming at a broader audience, and pandering to all forms of puritanism as a regression to the pre ESRB era and just as bad as Ted Woosley's FInal Fantasy localizations. Self censoring your games makes you a son of a submarineer.
Mistress Fortune wrote:
Even though I frankly don't think this is affecting the game in any negative fashion, it looks like Tokyo Mirage Sessions North American version is toning down the amount of fanservice, as the demo at PAX shows that a dungeon that's covered in posters of anime girls in bikinis have had the outfits altered to be less risque. Also the game's boxart on GameStop's website shows the game is rated T for North America, so chances are the fanservice was toned down in order for the game to get a T rating instead of M.
Frankly I don't even feel "da essjaydubyas" are to blame for this. When the game was first shown off last year I saw people complaining the game looked like "weaboo bait" and that it would "only appeal to the type of geeks/otaku who enjoy things like idol groups and jack off to anime tiddies." So frankly yes it wasn't SJW types I saw complaining about the game, it was other gamer nerds who don't care for games that are "overly anime." Also remember it's still Atlus handling the localization, so if you're gonna blame any company blame them.
1. Why would they care about an M-rating? Persona 4 got an M-rating and was by far the most successful in the series. Rated M for Money is a thing.
2. Given what has ended up in T-rated games before:
Plus Nintendo's massive market power it makes no sense that they would be legitimately worried about it.
3. Those "geeks/otaku who enjoy things like idol groups and jack off to anime tiddies" & "weaboos" are the only customers that matter because they're the only customers for this kind of game.
Neither Fire Emblem nor Persona are Mario/Pokemon/CoD cultural behemoths, and Tokyo Mirage Sessions is actually based on Shin Megami Tensei instead of Persona so they don't even have that level of audience.
Pissing off your core customers to pander to people who won't buy the game anyways is not a winning strategy.
How many people going "lolz weeb shit" are going to buy the game now that they cut out the offensive parts? Now how many people who would have bought the game are now going to drop it after Nintendo said "any changes made to the in-game content were due to varying requirements and regulations in the many different territories Nintendo distributes its products" and then the game got parts hacked off?
3. Nintendo is going to get hammered anyways. The FEF catastrophe ended up burning a lot of credibility with a lot of people, and Nintendo is still the publisher for TMS. They need to stay the fuck away from anything resembling what happened and now they're walking into yet another incident involving not only Fire Emblem but also a series with a fanbase devoted on a level unimaginable to most games they better be prepared for the backlash.
4. Given SOSJUC's legendary hatred for both tiddies & Japan "SJWs dindu nuffin" is going to be a hard sell regardless of what the truth is and the usual suspects will react to any backlash with full on hit-pieces ("Why the filthy misogynerd pissbaby gamers angry at the mature & charming Tokyo Margarine Seasons need to die for feminism!").
5. At least Atlus isn't going to put memes in & butcher the dialog/characterization (I hope).
Bookie wrote:
1. Why would they care about an M-rating? Persona 4 got an M-rating and was by far the most successful in the series. Rated M for Money is a thing.
2. Given what has ended up in T-rated games before:
Plus Nintendo's massive market power it makes no sense that they would be legitimately worried about it.
3. Those "geeks/otaku who enjoy things like idol groups and jack off to anime tiddies" & "weaboos" are the only customers that matter because they're the only customers for this kind of game.
Neither Fire Emblem nor Persona are Mario/Pokemon/CoD cultural behemoths, and Tokyo Mirage Sessions is actually based on Shin Megami Tensei instead of Persona so they don't even have that level of audience.
Pissing off your core customers to pander to people who won't buy the game anyways is not a winning strategy.
How many people going "lolz weeb shit" are going to buy the game now that they cut out the offensive parts? Now how many people who would have bought the game are now going to drop it after Nintendo said "any changes made to the in-game content were due to varying requirements and regulations in the many different territories Nintendo distributes its products" and then the game got parts hacked off?
3. Nintendo is going to get hammered anyways. The FEF catastrophe ended up burning a lot of credibility with a lot of people, and Nintendo is still the publisher for TMS. They need to stay the fuck away from anything resembling what happened and now they're walking into yet another incident involving not only Fire Emblem but also a series with a fanbase devoted on a level unimaginable to most games they better be prepared for the backlash.
4. Given SOSJUC's legendary hatred for both tiddies & Japan "SJWs dindu nuffin" is going to be a hard sell regardless of what the truth is and the usual suspects will react to any backlash with full on hit-pieces ("Why the filthy misogynerd pissbaby gamers angry at the mature & charming Tokyo Margarine Seasons need to die for feminism!").
5. At least Atlus isn't going to put memes in & butcher the dialog/characterization (I hope).
There's about three memes in Fates. Still think that it's stupid people act like every other piece of dialogue is a meme in it.
Update, looks like Nintendo is muzzling Atlus.
I was wondering why Atlus didn't do their usual ultra-detailed explanation of why they changed something.
Edit: Operation Rainfall has more.
And it looks like GameSpot wants to jump on the SJW bandwagon just as it's crashing, they went after Brad Wardell.
> For us, we make games for a living. It takes years to make a game. If you have some problem with the people who make it, recuse yourself if you can’t separate your personal politics from your subject.
> I’ve heard every argument on reviews over the past couple decades. It’s just one guy’s opinion, he’s entitled to his own view. Here’s my two cents: If you’re a gaming site you have editorial standards. You have rated game X an N and game Y an M. That’s how it works. If you want to post your half-baked idiotic review on your Word Press blog knock yourself out. But when you write for a real publication, be a professional.
> I was very outspoken some years ago when we released a bad game: Elemental: War of Magic. That’s a game with a nearly 60 metacritic score. I bring this up because I am notoriously open when we mess up and make a bad game. When War of Magic wasn’t good, I gave away its sequel and expansion to everyone who bought War of Magic for free. That’s how serious I am on the issue of integrity in gaming. I put my money (millions of dollars) where my mouth was.
> By contrast, Ashes of the Singularity is a very good game, easily the best RTS that has come out in years. Usually the only debate I see is whether it is better than Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance or not. You’d be hard pressed to find a lot of people who think the game deserves a 4. That’s insane.
> I can’t even begin to express how disgusted I am. I’ve been doing it a very long time, arguably longer than any gaming journalist and I’ve never seen it as bad as it is now. Get your shit together. I was here before you and I can assure you I’ll be here long after you.
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