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KYM Opinions Survey

Last posted Apr 19, 2017 at 12:55AM EDT. Added Oct 07, 2016 at 12:17PM EDT
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Survey is closed for this round! Next survey will be out in no less than 12 days. Here's the stats.


54 signed up, 54 were PMed, and…. 55 responded.

I have no idea why.

Thankfully, it's not too big a change in the results. If you happened to take it twice, or shared the survey with someone else, please don't do that. It messes with the results.

In many ways, the results were similar to the pre-150 results of Make KYM Great Again. However, a few things stood out as different. For one thing, the rate of using the forums is significantly higher, and entries significantly lower.

The section on site section usage was a simplified version of MKGA's.

  • Forums: 87%
  • Image Galleries: 49%
  • Comments: 46%
  • Entries: 6%
  • Other: 4%

As for satisfaction, everything is above average except with frontpage content and ads. FP content is suffering from a serious case of "meh", as was shown in MKGA. Meanwhile, ads are despised. According to the math I ran, 95% of the time people wouldn't give 5 out of 5. The average was about 2 out of 5.

The vast majority of responders (82%) said they visited KYM once a day or more. This isn't exactly comparable to MKGA, because I changed up things a bit in how I measured site visit frequency.

About 85% of the responders use an adblocker. This is up from nearly 3/4 on MKGA. Out of those that use an adblocker, 81% reported not turning it off for KYM.

(Notice the disparity between people who said they don't have an adblocker in the first one and the second one. One user seems to have selected that they did have an adblocker in the first one, but not the second.)

As for suggestions, there were several I agreed with wholeheartedly:

  • "need more mods."
  • "Make image galleries on entries go back to how they used to be (they used to preview not take you to a page)"
  • "People need to learn to adopt more comprehensive tagging practices and understand the differences between galleries."

(just to name a few – there are others I agreed with)

While others were just silly:

  • "I praise the Sun!"
  • "Muffinlicious-sama is my bae and spirit animal"

The serious ones will be taken seriously, however, even if I don't agree with all of them. I'll try to bring them up with other mods, to see if any can be done on our own, and if not, see if we should bring it up with the admins.


Ok, that's the baseline stuff. Here's the other stuff.

Comedy consistently, as people were taking it, held first place. Sci-Fi and Adventure were always close seconds.

As for US election results, over half of responders made the smart choice and chose the Johnson over the left nut or the right nut.

Over half also agreed to decapitate RM to progress the state of the meme peasant at the cost of the meme oligarchy. These people were smart, unlike the 9 who picked me for the guillotine.


Alright, closing notes. If you want more details on the numbers I got, feel free to ask. I decided it might be best if I don't go into intimate details about every little number, so that I don't bore everyone to death and they miss the parts that were more interesting.

In the future, the core results will be compared to previous ones, instead of to MKGA. This will allow us to tell if we're doing something right (or wrong), and is the main reason I wanted to do this.

Last edited Oct 15, 2016 at 01:18AM EDT
“need more mods.”

Huh, I wonder which fields people want to see more moderator activity. As a pure forum user outside of commenting on user's walls, I would say this area of KYM is covered fairly consistently, expect for late night/early morning periods (ET).

To give a basic example, most advertisement bot threads are taken care of within 15 minutes of creation during user intensive hours, and during late night hours it takes upwards to an hour. To note, this isn't a complaint or criticism, just an observation.

I haven't used or uploaded in the image galleries in years. I recall we had heavy concern over uploading relevant images and appropriate tagging, judging from

“People need to learn to adopt more comprehensive tagging practices and understand the differences between galleries.”

I suppose it's still an issue. But of course someone could provide further details on this, in this thread or some other.

I'm relatively happy with entries, they do take time to write and polish, is that an area people are concerned about and think needs more coverage?

Alright, survey #2 is closed, here are the results. The next survey will be sent out no earlier than the 10th of November.


50 people responded, which is still exceptional turnout. Thank you so much, everyone who responded.

Overall, things have not changed much. A lot of it can be attributable to just noise. Some of the biggest changes are a 0.3 (out of 5) jump in moderator approval, and a jump from 49% to 52% in image gallery usage. Also, it seems a bit more people are enabling adblock for KYM than before. However, all of this could just be statistical noise.

The single biggest change was a drop from 82% to 76% in how many people access KYM. I do not believe this is just noise – it seems too big of a drop. This suggests this group might be moving a bit away from KYM – maybe because of school.

Also, as with before, the non-joking suggestions given in the open answer box will be at least shown to some other mods for consideration. I will try to do at least that every survey.


On the fun side of things, RPGs were the #1 most favorite video game genre by a long shot, pulling in 80%, with the second most favorite genre (Action) only grabbing 62% of the vote. Adventure came in third place, with 60%. The least favorite genre was Sports, at 2%.

A simple majority of 59% of people decided that pupper was objectively better than doggo. I'm very proud of you all.

Lastly, continuing the epic saga, Rivers beat Verbose and Platus to death in a forced fight after they all managed to avoid being decapitated by the guillotine. What will happen next? Stay tuned…

Last edited Nov 05, 2016 at 10:02PM EDT

Okey doke, no. 3 is finished! Next survey will probably be sent out in early December.


45 people took the survey. It seems it's slowly going down, but again, as long as it stays above 15 respondents, it can still work okay.

Most everything on the chart has stayed the same, barring three changes – two minor, one highly significant.

The two minor changes are in the usage of comments and entries.These have risen noticeably from the first round, with images jumping 7% and comments jumping 5%. Images was on an uphill climb from last time, so I'm inclined to think it's probably staying that way. Comments might be just noise, but I doubt it.

The major change is a bit more concerning. On the first survey, I have it recorded that 82% of respondents said they visit KYM once a day or more. As of now, only 69% of respondents are saying they visit KYM once a day or more.

This isn't being made up by those in the "about four times a week" category, either. They've stayed effectively the same. Instead, the "once every two weeks" and "once every week" groups have risen. The once a month group has stayed about the same, but that's to be expected in a survey that has a week window to answer.

There are a lot of worries and issues expressed in the open answer section. I'm going to see what I can do about them.

Some of these we are already looking into and working on, such as these two:

We need some more moderators.

Hopefully the entry scrapbooker idea will go through. It should boost our pool of possible mods dramatically.

Always try to help inform people about what to put in the source fields and to not put "source" as the location of the source.

That has been added to the rules page, and the link to the media metadata guidelines were included, so we're now able to act much easier on things like this.

Also, this was imo the best response:

It's such an honor to be the 1,000,000 visitor so often on this site.

Alright, now for the silly stuff.

Out of the 39 people who volunteered the information, the most popular website was Reddit, with nearly half (49%) of respondents saying they visit it. Behind it was Tumblr (44%), and 4chan, Twitter, and Facebook occupying the high 20s to low 30s range.

All but 1 of the 45 total respondents told me what kind of pizza toppings they like. The most popular, by far, was pepperoni at 71%. Behind it came sausage at 50%, pineapple at 32%, existential terror at 30%, and lastly mushrooms at 27%.

Finally, we come to the next chapter in the epic saga. Rivers has avoided the guillotine, killed her former co-workers, and been exiled into the wilderness. She didn't have the fortune to meet a hunky spray-tanned anthro tiger (23%), or a heCKING, DOG (32%), but instead ended up running into 20 midgets with proportionally sized warhammers (46%). These midgets, holding warhammers, were of course not friendly (you don't hold warhammers if you're not friendly ofc), and proceeded to chase Rivers across the wilderness. Due to their tiny legs, and the weight of the hammers, they couldn't keep up and Rivers managed to escape.

What will Rivers do now? Keep watching to find out!

Last edited Nov 24, 2016 at 11:24PM EST

I feel the need to say: progress is being made. The moderators are working on applying the results, especially the open answer section. In the modchat, there was a lengthy discussion involving four mods and an admin about these results, which produced a list of things we can do. Some of it is already being interpreted into active action by the moderators.

This is producing results. It's because of y'all giving helpful information, both in the required areas and the open response. We went line by line through the serious suggestions given in the open response area to figure out what we could do, what we should do.

Thanks for helping us with this :)

I'm aware they are. I probably should be trying to check how the results look if I adjusted the results to compare to MKGA's post-150 responses, now that I'm better at handling things like this in spreadsheets. I'll try that for this round.

Survey closed. Here's the results.


Not much has changed in the way of satisfaction levels. The most notable things, which are only notable in comparison with past satisfaction changes, are for Forums and Comments. Forums dropped 0.3 points of satisfaction (out of 5) while Comments gained 0.3 points, which makes them tied for biggest change in a single survey with the 0.3 point jump between the first and second surveys for Moderator satisfaction. (Basically, compared to others, it's sizable.)

Correlating with that, Forums is on the decline for site section usage while Comments is rising. There are 10% less respondents saying they're using the forums than the second survey. Meanwhile, comments are up 10% in the same timeframe. Also, Image site section usage has gone up 6% since the second survey.

And lastly, site usage frequency. Oohhh boy. Things have not improved since the third survey.

22% less respondents are selecting "Once a day or more" as how often they visit KYM, compared to the first survey, taken back in October with almost the exact same set of users responding. Compensating for this, "about four times a week" and "about once a week" 6 and 14 percent, respectively. This makes sense – the survey is only open a bit more than a week each time it's released, so people who join less than that are unlikely to even see the survey in time.

Whether this is representative of most of KYM's regulars or not would require more looking into. At this point, I'm thinking it might be worth it.

Also, as always, the responses were run over by the moderators. There's now a thread in the moderator/admin-only forum dedicated to talking about possible ideas inspired by the responses, so keep them coming!


Now, for the fun stuff.

While people had a hard time deciding definitively who they wanted to frig, wed, or murder, the consensus has a result.

Firstly, KYM has decided that they're going to live with this, for better or for worse, in sickness and in health:

Secondly, KYM decided that they'd much rather kill Jar Jar Binks more than Hillary Clinton or Fred. Jar Jar had a response to this upon being informed:

Lastly, by default, KYM has decided to frig Hillary Clinton. This.

It was a very close race, but when asked if there were two guys on the moon and one of them killed the other with a rock would that be fucked up or what, they decided that it was what.

Curiously, when asked when the War of 1812 began and given no way to accurately respond, people chose certain responses more than others. Who coulda thunk it.

Lastly, we return to the epic story of our heroine, Rivers. With the meme revolution raging on back home, she has been pushed into exile and chased by a horde of midgets with proportionally sized warhammers until she became lost in the woods.

As she catches her breath, Don the Memtist appears from out behind a tree. He survives purely on wild controversies and hashtags, and wears only a cloak made of Trump's shed hair.

"Hello my child," the great prophet says softly. "Come, follow me. I will show you the way of the meme."

Rivers, being a naive girl, decides to follow the old man who called himself "Meme Daddy" into the woods.

After hours multiple units of time, through extensive training in the meme arts under the watchful eye of Don the Memtist, she gains the power of a new stand.

「NIGHTMARE WOODS」

Power: D

Speed: A

Range: D

Durability: B

Precision: B

Potential: C

「NIGHTMARE WOODS」 takes the form of a female zombie. She is extremely fast, and is able to dodge most attacks. This is good, as she is incredibly fragile. However, unless she is hurt, she can go on for extremely lengthy periods of time.

With this new stand, Rivers plans to take back her home from the Meme Revolutionists.

Mom Rivers wrote:

War of 1812 began on 1811 because that’s when the tensions rose to start it, duh.

Mind explaining why over half the responders picked other dates, then? :|

Well War of 1812 was like Return of the Jedi except with Redcoats, so it's likely the Crown was setting things in motion long before then. "Alright, make sure we institute a draft and engineer an entire fleet before 1812, guys. What? Oh h-hi President Madison, I didn't see you there."

People who picked 1813, I don't fucking know, maybe they were thinking like the commonfolk at the time. "OH SHIT, THE WHITE HOUSE IS ON FIRE!? Who did it? Aww hell, it was the Brits again?" We didn't have no minutemen anymore, we just had…militiamen. See, when you're a minuteman, you have a drunkard yelling "the Redcoats are coming!" and it takes you a minute to say 'fuck' before grabbing your musket.

Alright, here's the summary of the fifth KYM opinion survey.


Daily site usage is up a bit from last time, which is a good thing since previously it was constantly lowering.

The Forums and the Admins have hit an all-time low in satisfaction: 3.5, and 3.2 respectively. The reason I'm pointing this out is because they're also the biggest drops from their heights so far – 3.9 and 3.7, respectively. Admins have dropped a whole 0.5 points and forums 0.4. In a 5 point system, that's notable.

I'm gonna respond to a few of the open-answer responses. Note that, as always, all the serious suggestions are presented to other mods for discussion.

get rid of the freaking video or forum spam accounts.

Forum spam is typically killed quickly. Depends on the hour it's up. Either way, it's never around for more than a few hours at worst.

Video spam is an issue, because nobody uses the video area. Seriously, other than hardcore cleaners and 1 mod, basically nobody actually peruses it.

It also doesn't help that video spam is unending. I tried. Asdfghjkl tried. ShiJo tried. All three of us tried. Now, Asdfghjkl's dead and ShiJo is half-dead. Please, don't make me join them. I beg of you, don't send me back there.

Would like to see a better edit system for entries.

We're still pushing entry scrapbooker.

Disabling downvoting in photoshop threads could encourage more people to post without fear of getting red numbers.

I doubt the site infrastructure would allow this to happen :/ and even if it did, we'd have to get James to do it on every single contest thread, probably. When considering that when someone is in the negative in those threads it's for bad grammar or failing the point of the contest, I'm not entirely sure it's worth it.

I think we ought to make changes to the rules easier for users to find.

The rules are in bold, directly above people's profile. Tbh I'm not sure how you miss it, although then again somehow some people don't know the forums exist. I didn't for a while.

If you have an idea for where to put it, go ahead and say so in the next one.

Crack down on inflammatory users in the comments sections.

Oh man, how much we would love to. The problem is, the comments section is expansive. Over 3.7 million comments now (when you include deleted ones). We get a lot every day. It is literally impossible for anything less than a paid, dedicated team to keep up with it. As such, a lot slips through our fingers.

If you have any ideas of how to do this other than just spending all our free time glaring at the activity page, refreshing, please speak up. We'd love the ability to grab all the porn links and behave-rule-breaking in the comments.

Mods willing to do their work if they're going to add more rules. Even if it's still the holidays there's still work to be done.

We're volunteers, and we have lives.

Moderators do nothing and tell us nothing, all they do is ask the admins for shit and get nothing.

Now, one user who made a similar comment apologized and took it back later, but I'm seeing this sentiment a lot, so I feel like I should address it.

We do care. We do things. I'm posting all over the place, explaining decisions in threads, etc. And yes, we do ask the admins for things and often get nothing, but that is not all we do.

The comments section, as mentioned before, is huge and fast moving. Even on a "slow" site like KYM, it's too much for a small group of volunteers. It just can't be handled. If you see something, PM a mod! We probably aren't going to see it ourselves!

As for the forums, we clear out so much spam it's kind of ridiculous. This is just a snipped of one page. A new spam filter would be much-loved. We're also locking and moving threads fairly regularly, and handling quality of discussion in the forums often (fixing up posts, redirecting to other threads, keeping on topic, etc.)

As for other things – in the past day (note that today's Sunday, so many of us are out doing things, and in general activity drops on KYM) moderators have done over 75 edits (meaning stuff like deadpooling an entry, removing a photo, etc) – that's about 3 an hour, on a slow day. We are doing things, even if you don't see it.

I know this feeling will probably never be gone, even if we're super-active, but seeing it a bit more often, I felt like an explanation might be good.

make those NSFW guidelines stricter ;)



When presented with a question about the nature of free will and the truth of determinism, the respondents were sharply divided, with only a small margin (52.1%) saying they disagreed with the notion that free will is a myth.

In contrast, a strong majority (77.8%) determined that anime is a mistake – and NOT trash. The plurality (34.1%) determined that this was, indeed, a JoJo reference. Lastly, people were pretty confident the bourgeois will be overthrown by the proletariat.

Lastly, Rivers is approached by a group of thugs who attempt to steal something that she doesn't have (-i know you're thinking my virginity or some shit stop now-) while brandishing knives. It was a close race, but in the end you all decided that…

Rivers decides to take the pacifist route and tell them she don't got shit.

The bandits, feeling bad that they inconvenienced someone as ass-poor as Rivers, gave her a pair of brass knuckles and went on their way.

Rivers continued her trek to Kym-town. What will happen when she gets there?

To be continued…

Last edited Jan 15, 2017 at 07:18PM EST

Everyone should've been PM'd now for the 6th one – all 56 of you. Please take it soon, as always I plan to close it in a week.

(Note: It was accidentally closed when I first sent it. The link works fine now. If you happened to check it in the first ~10 minutes after getting a PM and couldn't get it to work, please try again.)

Last edited Jan 17, 2017 at 04:02PM EST

Yes yes, I know it's been more than a month. I haven't given up, don't worry. School is just infinitely exhausting.


In a nutshell, the reports for these seem good.

Mod approval rating is at its highest yet – 4.0/5, which is higher than anything I've recorded before. Everything else also either jumped or stayed even, which is good. Site usage continues to recover some, now up at 73% for daily or more frequent usage – higher than it was for the third, fourth, or fifth surveys.

There was a curious and notable drop is comment usage, which may have something to do with the different reports – it seems the forum community is more friendly to the moderators and more dedicated to the site overall.

Oh, and adblock usage on KYM jumped 6%.

You guys have had a bunch of mods deactivate or leave recently.
Try to get some active mods or more mods.

blep and bloop


When asked about their dick, 69% (lol 69 xDDD) said that they were a boi with a big dick. 21% actually had the courage to admit they had a small dick (fuckboi), unlike the 69% of respondents who had no balls to admit they had a small dick. 7% said they had a femdick, and a meager 2% said they had no dick. RIP those with no dick.

In the most disgusting of races, chocolate barely edged out mint (ew) for favorite ice cream flavor. That's followed by vanilla and then strawberry.

About the consoles, uhh…

I don't think I thought this one through.

Regardless, it looks like people overall had the Gamecube and the NES as their first consoles more often than any others.

Last we left off, our heroine Rivers was standing outside the gates of Kym-town, the doors barred and secured so that none may disturb the users' citizens' violent peaceful revolution discussion of differences of opinion. She needed a way to get in, and carefully considered her options. Upon thinking it out, she had come to the conclusion that the best path is…

I am kinkshaming ALL of you.

Rivers activates her stand, 「NIGHTMARE WOODS」, and a special ability: ACT 2. This creates a clone of Rivers.

The clone walks into the view of those on the walls and calls to them, asking for some of their time, coupled with a bit of eyelash batting. Meanwhile, the Real Rivers™ hides, waiting to dart through the door.

The guards eventually capitulate, and a few push open the gates to go talk to Fake Rivers™. Real Rivers™ pushes the last guard out of the way and glides through the open gate before anyone can stop her. She slams the gate shut behind her.

Commotion could be heard from the top of the wall. The guards who fell for her ruse were slamming the gate doors. Shouts could be heard from down the road, people wondering what's happening. She's surrounded on all sides; there's no place to run.


Props to Gnairly for helping me with this section of the story.

Next survey will be out soon, hopefully!

Last edited Feb 19, 2017 at 01:45AM EST

Before:

After:

Like a zombie, I rise from the grave

7th survey is out. I'm interested to see how it goes, given it's now been 3 months exactly since the last survey was sent.

Also:

If you want to join, don't be afraid to ask! I can readily add you to the list of people to PM and send you this survey, if you join in the next few days. A lot of the people who have signed up so far have left, so some new respondents would be a great thing to have.

Mom Rivers wrote:

Also:

If you want to join, don't be afraid to ask! I can readily add you to the list of people to PM and send you this survey, if you join in the next few days. A lot of the people who have signed up so far have left, so some new respondents would be a great thing to have.

Is it alright for a new user to join in on something older than my account?
But seriously thought, i'm actually interested in signing up for this.

Sent it. Glad I'm getting some new people in the survey (some people in the Discord asked for it too) as it seems a lot of the people on the list have left, or dropped in activity significantly. One was even banned.

Last edited Apr 17, 2017 at 09:01PM EDT

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