CBS news link about the bill
A Deeplinks/EFF article about it
A way to help stop this as linked from the EFF
The House is apparently gonna vote on this tomorrow. Thoughts?
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CBS news link about the bill
A Deeplinks/EFF article about it
A way to help stop this as linked from the EFF
The House is apparently gonna vote on this tomorrow. Thoughts?
I've heard about this, but haven't seen much discussion on it, which is sad really.
The House has passed it 215-205. The Senate previously passed it on a party-line vote so it goes to Trump to be signed, which he is expected to do.
I don't know anything about what the FCC's rules were so I can't really form much of an opinion of it.
I don't think you all understand.
All the things us Americans do on the internet will soon be legally sold to the highest bidder. Everything. Every little bit of info ISPs can glean from our activity. The websites you're on, the time you spend on them, the data you submit, everything. Everything. ISPs do not need to have reasonable protections on your data either, so they're a bigger target for hackers now.
This is, by far, one of the scariest and most stupid things I've ever seen Congress do – possibly the scariest and most stupid thing, ever. ISPs hold all the data for our internet, unlike groups like Google which only have on their services. ISPs have all the data you submit to Google, Facebook, KnowYourMeme, Twitter, Tumblr, Discord – every last little bit of it, it all goes through them. And all of this may now be legally sold to the highest bidder.
I really really hope someone comes in here and tells me I'm being ridiculous and fearmongering, because this is ridiculous. It's terrifying.
Havent ISPs been spying on us for years, and social media sites like Facebook
Archaon, Everchosen wrote:
Havent ISPs been spying on us for years, and social media sites like Facebook
Now they are allowed to sell your internet history to anyone who pays for it. So before it was used to give you ads specifically based upon your searches, now if someone wanted they could buy your internet history and black mail you with it.
"Hello son take a sit, me and your mom just waste 10k on your ISP, why were keep searching "hot nude 18+ minecraft trap mp3 hack"?"
Feel good about yourselves for throwing your support behind Cheetolini? I'll wait.
Come on!
Where are your "They have every legal right to do so" justifications now?
Jimmy 3, People 0 wrote:
Feel good about yourselves for throwing your support behind Cheetolini? I'll wait.
I'm waiting too. But much like the left, the right downplays its failures and shortcomings. The failure in having a full deck and not getting a decent replacement product and procedure for its new health care can't be understated. There was no need to rush it, but putting it forth and expecting a positive result screams that the administration can inspire a certain population and put faith in some businesses, but Trump's administration can't navigate politics. And whatever it's learning, it's learning disappointingly slowly.
But with that failure, very little has been said to criticize either the timing or the inability to get your majority on the same page. ACA needs help, and Republicans had a chance to adjust it. But it seems they were set on a full repeal-and-replace, and they couldn't do it as quickly as they thought. I suspect many Republican Congressmen knew that too, and I thank them for that.
On this, I expect this to be mostly for advertising. Any ISP that chooses not to sell its records stands to develop a niche where they net customers who don't want their browsing histories up for bids.
Also, politicians didn't pass this without thinking about themselves. I highly doubt they'd want rivals to see what porn they views or their business dealings, so there is probably something to prevent that much at least.
I don't like it either way, but I think the extent is overstated.
Any ISP that chooses not to sell its records stands to develop a niche where they net customers who don’t want their browsing histories up for bids.
>Implying we have a choice in out ISP
Does this apply only in US or does this affect to other countries?
If it applies to other countries who have internet spots near US, then it's a scary thought.
Also, this is probably the new SOPA/PIPA.
Okay, so one thing which I've seen reported which hasn't been mentioned in thread (at least from what I've seen). From both the BBC and AP News (and the CBS article listed in the OP) says this is targeting regulations the Obama administration enacted in 2016, which had not actually gone into effect yet. While I agree with what some others elsewhere have said, about it seems to value corporate interests more than the privacy of the American people, the main take away point I got from this was that, there would not be any immediate changes, as the rule taken out had not yet been enacted. Please note, I'm not saying I like this (far from it) but it's not going to have any immediate changes from what I'm seeing.
@Mr. Plankton:
It's taking out a regulation that was going to be enacted in the United States. While I'm sure there will be indirect effects of this elsewhere, I'm fairly certain things like this are going to be subject to different laws in different countries.
All I'm gonna say is, I thank Asdfghjkl for helping me set up my internet so that nobody would be spying on my ass.
I also thank DuckDuckGo for existing.
And FireFox for being so easily modified.
Feel free to snap me out of my hammock before I relax, but now I just gotta grab the popcorn and wait for people who were like "LOL TRUMP MEMES" to suddenly start getting pissed off. I'll enjoy the irony honestly.
Question to those who are good with computers now that my ISP data will be sold to a big corporation, is there a safe/virus free VPN I can use for a MacBook? I'm not gonna have the government sell my internet history to some shadowy organization just because its now legal. I'm already paranoid as is about the fact the government is watching me online now I'm just terrified that my online interests will be sold to the highest bidder for them to sell to some other company and for that company to sell to another and have a trickle down effect.
I don't want to single one side for this bullshit, but seeing as this bill was proposed entirely by Republicans and voted through almost entirely along party lines, I have to say, fuck Republicans.
I swear If Trump signs this bill, he will lose lots of his supporters and there won't be another 4 years for him in 2020.
I bet Cambridge Analytica wanted this to be passed.
Funny thing is I learned this while browsing paheal.
Sanakan_ht wrote:
I swear If Trump signs this bill, he will lose lots of his supporters and there won't be another 4 years for him in 2020.
Any adoration he got from that TPP thing can go away if he truly does support this.
SicklyVivian wrote:
Any adoration he got from that TPP thing can go away if he truly does support this.
Not likely.
If they can support him even though he's taking away benefits that support them, they'd rather die than admit they were wrong and mislead.
robepriority wrote:
Funny thing is I learned this while browsing paheal.
Probably the best place to be reminded of it.
From The Hill: Trump signs internet privacy repeal
Billionaire signs bill that only big companies support. Shocker.
Guess the only thing left is to wait for the aftermath to unfold, huh?
lol Stupid americans. I will not write "america" or "american" with a capital A anymore.
Is it possible to find something like TOR to keep the ISPs from looking at our history?
I don't like the government invading my privacy enough already. I don't want Mc Donald's and Walmart to get in on my internet history too.
Who wanted this bill?
Big data companies.
Senate Joint Resolution 34: I find the name oddly fitting considering the subject matter.
After Shock wrote:
Senate Democrats are now working on a bill that would reverse this resolution
I doubt it will pass.
But it does send a message.
Let's spread the word!
Any updates to this situation?
Reminder that May 18 is when Ajit Pai's plan to reverse Net Neutrality rules will be voted on May 18 and we are possibly in very very bad waters
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