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I've met a terrible fate, haven't I?

Last posted May 06, 2016 at 03:10PM EDT. Added May 05, 2016 at 02:22PM EDT
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Before I begin, I'm gonna say I'm putting this in JFF since user-centric things aren't allowed in general from what I can tell, and most of the people involved are here anyway. If there's a better spot, feel free to move it. With that aside, I've got things to say.

Hello KYM. It's me, MiloticExalted. Now before everyone resumes the witch-hunt I'd like to say some things.

First of all, I'm sorry. Really, truly sorry. The last few days (week?) have been really hectic for everyone here, I think, with all the mod/admin drama, deactivations and now this. But before I try to clear the air, I want to explain my side of the story, and why I did the things I now regret. I waited till today to post this, so that hopefully tensions would have cooled down after everyone's had a chance to sleep and think.

It all started with the mod/admin drama. Anyone that knew me here, as in knew my history with the site and where I came from, would know that I had issues with the moderation system in place here at KYM. In the real world, it was time for midterms, no sleep and headaches for me, but that's beside the point. The day that happened, I was "recovering", to say the least, and wasn't exactly thinking straight. I logged in as per usual, saw the mods arguing with the admins and, with my little knowledge of what was actually going, made a fantastically shitty post about how "the mods think they're more important than the admins" and went on my merry way, my confused self legitmately thinking I was being funny. I returned from classes and immediately noticed everyone mocking me, insulting me, etc, the usual post-shitpost norm for Riff-Raff. "Ok," I thought, "I fucking screwed up there." Strike one, but i'm sure it's just a fluke. I was tired, after all.

Then, the Family Photo thread. I'm gonna be a bit more brief here since most of those involved probably know the story. I went into the thread and remembered the last one of its kind, where everybody just started asking to be in pics and it got really annoying. I thought to myself "I should make a post asking NOT to be in a picture! Maybe that'll mix things up? Like, just put myself in acting antisocial or something." I was very wrong, apparently, and got in an argument with TripleA over what's allowed in those kinds of threads. But no matter how much I wanted to explain, I knew I screwed up again. Strike two, feeling like shit now. But I took TripleA's words to heart for next time a thread like that would pop up. I mean, it was pretty rude of me to only include myself in a thread called "Family Photos", right? "I'll do better next time."

Turns out "next time" happened sooner than I thought. I told myself I'd just leave it be. Wouldn't want another fiasco like last time, right? I remembered what I learned from last time, and not talking to anyone enough to make a picture, decided not to try and make any jokes. But, as with most threads, it happened anyway. Roy G. Biv made a picture with only himself in it. Now, before anything else, this isn't to demonize Roy or call him out on anything. If anyone else posted something like that, it would have ended up the same way. So I'm sorry if you feel like I'm calling you out, I'm not trying to. Anyway, contrary to my expectations, and what I learned from last time, that picture was recieved very well. As you might imagine, I was angry. I felt cheated, lied to, misled, and deliberately toyed with. There aren't many things in the world I hate more than double-standards, and, to put it bluntly, this community has a pretty terrible track record with them. Why, after all, what that one so much better recieved than mine? What was the difference? I'm not saying I was right here, but if you were told the hard way why you shouldn't do something, wouldn't you feel the same if someone else could get away with it and you couldn't? And to think I was already feeling pretty shitty after my last two posts, this was the straw that broke the camel's back.

I was pretty furious that it felt like how well my posts were recieved was no longer dependent on the quality of the posts themselves. Until then, I was perfectly willing to accept my past screwups and continue on with my life. But now, I felt like people just had a grudge against me and wanted me to suffer, or leave, or whatever, jsut because I wasn't part of this magical KYM ubermensch. I figured now was the time everyone finally wanted me gone for good. This wasn't the first time, after all. So… "fuck it", I said, and deactivated my main account after posting my reaction to the thing, and switched over to my alt, Jerry. I thought if people wanted to hate me just for being me, I'd hate them back. At least, that's how it seemed in my head at the time. I went on a downvoting spree, thinking that would make them understand. I regret every minute of it now, but at the time I thought I could make a difference my putting others through what I thought was "my pain". Long story short, Jerry was banned only a couple hours after that ( IP banned too! Though, from my following research through the forums, I'm pretty sure that was from my attempts at logging back into Jerry after not realizing it was banned. Apparently hitting the login screen too many times causes an IP ban. )

Ok, so my account's deactivated, and Jerry's gone. "Alright," I thought. "That's enough. I'm upset, tired, humilated and this isn't making anything better for me." So I left. I wanted to leave this place behind and never come back; not after all that. I've made a fool of myself already, and now I'm the newest laughing stock. It couldn't possibly get any worse than this. But something about memes just makes you keep coming back, as I'm sure we all know too well. Unwillingly, I lurked more the next day.

Then, the drama blew up like I never thought it would. I had classes that day, so I was out of commission until around 5-6PM, but when I came back, people were still blaming me for things, calling me out as salty, degenerate, cringy, the whole ham really. Someone else was downvoting all the threads and everyone seemed to think it was me, and it hurt to think you guys really thought of me that way after coming to terms with it the day before. I felt helpless; with my IP banned from the Jerry incident, there was nothing I could do to set the record straight and prevent me from becoming even more of a joke than I already was/am, but you guys didn't seem to know I was IP banned and therefore couldn't be the one behind it, and continued to blame me for the things this framer was doing. I dwelled on this for awhile, and after a nap, realized one last thing I could possibly do. I made a new email, and found a usable proxy to try and get something through to you and set the record straight that I was done with this a day ago, and that the new votes weren't from me.

It… didn't work. Unfortunately the timing of my solution was horrible, as the framer had just been found ( If the thread's telling the truth, it apparently went by "Try and Stop Me". I actually got a bit of a chuckle out of it; whoever you are, do you really think I'm that edgy? Assuming this is intentional. More on that later. ). So, with my terrible timing and rushed "solution", naturally nobody would believe me, and I once again managed to make the situation even worse than before. I'd lost count of my screwups at this point, and I didn't care much to remember them. But I didn't want to just give up, and let my name be remembered only by all this senseless drama, and immortalized forever in the forum's memory as the little shitposter that couldn't. Even though I want to leave, I still have good memories of this place and I feel like I've made a lot of friends here, and I didn't want to end it all on such a shitty note. As one final attempt, I wrote this. This is my apology for everything I've done over the last few days.

Last edited May 05, 2016 at 02:32PM EDT

I'm sorry for being a generally horrible person over the last week or so. I'm sorry for falsely accusing the mods of things they didn't do. I'm sorry for trying to make a joke out of the Family Photo threads. I'm sorry for abusing the Jerry account, and I'm sorry for my attempts at fixing my record only making everything worse, and I'm sorry for anything else I might have missed. I acted wrongly; like a screaming, confused child that didn't know what to do when the people I looked to for fun all seemed to turn on me at once, even if they really didn't. I overreacted, lost any credibiliy I had in a fit of rage and tried to bring everyone else down with me, all because I'm a weak-willed person that seeks the approval of others for self-satisfaction. I can't force you to accept this apology or even grant me forgiveness, but you have my word, whatever that's worth, that this is all sincere, whether you choose to believe it or not. That being said, there are some specific people I'd particularly like to try and make amends with.

@Mods. I'm sorry for my grudge against you. I'm in no place to judge the work you do that I can't see from my position as a user, and I'm certainly in no place to create more work by using my abusing my alt and getting myself IP banned. Many of you don't deserve the hate, and I'm aware of how much you get already. I shouldn't have tried to joke about a legitimate site issue between you and the admins.

@TripleA. I'm sorry for targeting you specifically with the Jerry account, and I'm sorry things had to turn out this way between us. You legitimately tried to explain what I did wrong when I asked, and it wasn't until too late that I managed to understand it and learn from it. I don't know if you'll ever forgive me, or even see this apology as legitimate, but I'd like it to be here just in case.

@Randomvids. I'm sorry for being who I am. I understand you hate RPers with a passion, and I'm sorry you feel that way about us. I looked through your posts and found the specific one you said I downvoted; believe it or not, I agree with you on what you said in that post. I didn't target you though, and I'm sorry that whoever did made your view of me only that much worse. I can't fix the problems you have with roleplayers, or justify the actions of others you've seen, but I hope it means at least something to say I don't hate you like you seem to think.

@Roy G. Biv. As I mentioned earlier, I'm sorry for possibly making you feel like this is somehow your fault just because your post was the one that make me break. I take full responsibility for this; if anyone else had made the post, I would have reacted all the same. I'm sorry for any confusion there.

And finally, to everyone that actually liked me a little, or cared about what might be happening: I'm sorry for probably destroying your faith in me, however much that was. I let you down as a person, and that regret hurts me most of all.

As for the other downvoter who I referred to as "the framer", I'd rather not bring any more attention to that. It's hard to say whether they actually intended for the blame to fall to me, or if it was just some freak coincidental timing that someone else tried to pull the same shit I did, what with all the recent drama and such. Whatever it was, they seem to be gone now, so I've stopped caring. What's happened happened already.

So there you have it, whether you choose to believe it or not. I was a moron the last few days; an idiotic, self-centered hypocritical pile of fucking garbage, and I'm sorry for it. Nobody should have to put up with what I did. I'm not sure what else I can say, other than I know drawn-out apologies like this are hard to take seriously, especially from me now, but I don't know what else to do to get everything on my mind out. If that's all, than my final wish is to just, please, let me die and fade away from the site in peace. I didn't want it to end like this.

Who knows, maybe someday I'll even be back. This site seems to have a way of bringing users back from the dead; but that won't happen until I feel like I deserve another chance.

…And, if you actually read all that, I'd like to thank you for listening.

Only thing I really found problematic was the first downvote bombardment with alt account. Karma-bombing as a whole is pretty stupid imo. Why does everyone deserve to get downvoted when you had grievances with like few users? That doesn't apply to you. It applies to everyone who actually did this.

Other than that, I didn't find you that bad at all, Milotic, even with this drama. Sure, bad posts do happen, but every user can have a bad day. That guy who gets popular posts almost every day can have his/her own bad day and make a post lacking in quality. To be fair, I can relate to the whole situation.

Apology accepted and I hope this doesn't repeat again.

BTW, do you want your main account to be reactivated or just stay like this for a while? Just ask a mod with user powers (recommending Triple Zed) if you want to.

Man, this month needs to cease with drama.

Last edited May 05, 2016 at 02:48PM EDT

At least you acknowledge what you did and apologized for it, for that alone i think that you deserve another chance. Let's forget what happened and start over.

Last edited May 05, 2016 at 03:24PM EDT

It takes guts to apologize like that. I can't speak for anyone else, but as for me, your apology is entirely accepted. The fact that you can make one like that and took the time to make it shows to me that you have plenty of room to improve, and plenty of humility. You've certainly got more than many other users on KYM.

I'm sorry for my part in spreading the idea that you're behind the other waves of downvoting. Others were going "are you really sure?" and I should have listened.

I wasn't and probably many other users annoyed at you for being angry against Roy, to me it's perfectly understandable. I was only annoyed, like I am now a bit, that you're blowing the whole thing out of proportion.

Roy even admitted his thing was shit, should just move on, you only made it worse downvote bombing and stuff. This apology is long-winded, too dramatic and most of the writing was unnecessary. It also focuses on yourself a lot, which doesn't make for a good thread outside Riff-Raff.

Still, at least you apologised but really just don't overblow things like this.

Last edited May 05, 2016 at 03:33PM EDT

Apology accepted. I feel like you explained rather well your point of view, and did so with humility. I wouldn't agree with Spider-Byte – these sort of apologies take a lot of effort and courage to make, and most of KYM users wouldn't even bother making one if they were in your place.

I wish you well, and hope that if you ever return things go a bit better for you.

okay so maybe the hate i have against RPers i mentioned in previous threads was a bit overestimated to be honest
i think a problem that im having (not just here but IRL to) is that one of the counselor i have (for some reason the school im in requires everyone to have counseling) said that i need to "act the same as the people i am talking to" combine that advice with the fact that the amount of karma i had was in the negative 300 range and i wanted to bring it back up (not sure why) and it caused me to act like the people i saw in the forums. now just add the fact that the forums i visited more were Riff-Raff and JFF (i dont think i would fit in other forums besides RR and JFF too well) made it slightly worse (no offense meant to the people who frequent RR). in fact that might be the only reason i actually made fun of you so much to be honest. if you even look at my posts making fun of you they targeted the only things i really knew about you and the forums: that you were a RPer, and that RR seems to hate RPers
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i also think that i should apologize to some of the users in the "Who is Milotic" thread. i will admit that
1. i might have taken the "no rules/you can say almost anything you want" part of RR too far
2. it was cringy of me to make fun of/insult a user i had only had maybe 2 interactions with because everyone else in the thread was doing it
3. it really was extremely cringy that i used the type of language that an edgy 10 year old who found this site would use and i admit that
i might try to avoid posting to the forums (especially RR) past 10 when my mind would barely be working and i would barely be able to think at all so something like that doesnt happen again.

The problem you have is taking karma and criticism too seriously, and a clear lack of self-control. It's what began this entire conflict in the first place, and the manner in which you reacted was not okay at all.
Regardless, I accept this apology, and appreciate the time you put into it. As long as you're willing to work towards fixing these issues, then I wholeheartedly welcome you to start posting again.

Last edited May 05, 2016 at 08:57PM EDT

I wasn't really too involved in what transpired here other than a joke post I made yesterday, but I accept your apology. I know you are a good person and you would come to your senses even through we don't interact at all.

Personally as someone who kinda observes drama from the side most of the time meme drama really looks stupid it's usually from people taking things way too seriously and is really hilarious and petty if you take a step back to look at it. Glad you decided to take the step back and realize how lame karma is and how we're all just memers with similar interests sometimes trying to have some laughs and a good time. It should be a site rule to never take yourself too seriously. Thank you for doing this.

I hope you stay on the site for a while to come.

Last edited May 05, 2016 at 10:39PM EDT

Honestly out of all the things you did the only one that made me even remotely angry was that you would deactivate over something as trivial as karma (but that might just be due to the fact that I'm jaded as fuck and don't really have strong negative opinions of anything really). Either way, welcome back.

After all the drama that has been happening lately it's a breath of fresh air to see this kind of post. What you did was a bit uncalled for but wasn't really that bad. Anyway it's great to see that you are feeling better about this now. Welcome back.

Thank you for the apology, although it was pretty much unnecessary. It's not exactly common to find people on the internet willing to publicly and sincerely apologize, and I genuinely appreciate it.
Also, I never meant to imply you pushed me into feeling guilty or anything; it's just my own guilt complex flaring up. I'm not tearing my hair out over this, if it's any consolation.
And don't worry, it doesn't seem like you're calling me out or anything.
Hope everything turns out okay.

Although the drama of late hasn't really affected me, I just want to say:

We all make mistakes, Milotic. Don't beat yourself up badly just because of this. You're human, it's in our nature to make mistakes now and again. Stand back up and keep on moving forward.

The door (or my metaphorical door, at least) is always open, buddy. Come back when you're ready.

(And for the record, apology accepted. You're doing the right thing and that is admirable.).

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