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He never invaded Bythia. It wasn't in his turn to expend troops. Both you and he sent in your turn that you, Giozzario, would station men in Atlantis and use it as a staging point to invade South America.
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Also, I have composed a map in regards to the Goizzi peace treaty:
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This map only shows the Giozzi treaty with her enemies. No other nations.
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Those whom are at war with the Giozzi should include in their PMs that they agree with this treaty. If not, negotiations should continue in this thread until a settlement is reached.

Holy crap do you guys see how big the Sweetiebellion is now! O_o
I told you I had something up my sleeves!
I told you I would bring world peace!
(if not temporarily)

well makes sense on why I sent SHIPS to assist in blockades and such or to assist you but I nvr sent my ground army. Also, why is Hephaestus getting the old Giozzario islands near me next to Cuba instead of Bythia?

To show the world the charity of our reformed nation, we cede California to Equestria, Hispaniola and other controlled islands in the Caribbean to Hephaestus, and our South American colonies to Bythia and Tita.

I just checked, it said explicitly on turn 15 that the USA invades Bythia…
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@ Kokuu I'm giving them to him for his support in general for Giozzario, and I'm reducing the size of my empire to reduce maintenance.
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Since nobody else has written an official TOS and Peace treaty, I'd like to draft one that hopefully everyone can agree is fair.
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Here are the terms of surrender for the HAZE alliance in the Great War of Zçùla; All troops will be withdrawn, without interference, on both sides and sent back to their homeland. All nations involved will pay war debts in the form of currency or land. All HAZE nations will make reparations for killed citizens in the form of currency or land. HAZE is officially disbanded, but former member nations are allowed to create a new alliance if they so choose. All blockades and embargoes are removed. The post-war land borders will look like the map posted by Syndic 4 posts above me.
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If everyone agrees to this, which Giozzario confirms we do, then I suggest we all meet in Canterlot in Equestria to sign it, as it is a neutral nation that has been war- free.

Wow, I haven't checked the nation rp thread in a while, I hope nothing happened while I was gone.

I got some serious PMing to do.

You throw my nation under the bus, and expect nothing to happen? Yeah… So do you sign agreement to the new border agreement and peace treaty posted directly above?

The Navy is deployed to assist in blockading Tita and the Army and Navy are deployed to invade Northern Bythia from the sea.

You guys were right Atlantis was involved more than I credited them. Must've overlooked those two words and assumed he wasn't actually attacking anyone.

lol no kidding eh? Not like u initiated it or anything haha

whats done is done. I'll take a support role I guess since it was played out how the GM has said.

Well, you were still apart of HAZE, so you're subject to the TOS and peace treaty, which you haven't signed yet. Though, all that's really required from you is a signature and for you to withdraw your blockade.
@All Sweetiebellion nations, would you be willing to open up trade routes with me now?

I just meant that there were a lot of agreements and stuff I missed, I knew for sure I was about to severely overhaul your kingdom, I haven't been on your side since the turn we became HAZE.

Oh, and sure, I will take the land and the peace. I liked that peninsula but whatever.

yea I know and I don't loose much so I'll sign it.
O and yes I would request open trade with everyone if given the opportunity

Wow. I'm sad now. That hurts, man, it really does. But that's 3 signatures for my peace treaty, so that's good, and we only need 5 left. Also, as much as it pains me, I'd like to eradicate continue trade with you, so would you accept trade routes with me?

I have no officially signed the peace treaty just yet. I'm still trying to get a grasp on things.

The Lakotan People have tasted victory, and it's flavor is the finest we have ever experienced.

Also, highest civilian casualties!

Holocaust. ;__;

Yeah, I think we rushed history a bit, that wasn't supposed to happen until the next great war XD. But I think I did a great job as the villain country/ hitler incarnation. Now to go a 180 and assume my role as a neutral communist state.

I am going to write a geographical/political/social essay on this map and the different regions on it tomorrow, which will either replace the turn or go alongside it depending upon how much time I have. I will detail how the people live, what the economy is like, and a brief history of why that is the way it is for each region on earth. It'll be a bit lengthy, but I am sure a lot of you would love to read it. Get a bit more in depth for this game

You said that as part of the treaty, the countries that have been wronged would be repaid in land…

So I'm guessing you will give Lakota southwestern US?

After some debate within the Sweetiebellon, we have agreed that this is our proposed peace treaty of land displacement in Africa. We concluded that this will discourage future attacks from both sides, and that it is fair since you were the one who attacked and you are the ones surrendering. By doing so, we will not kick Deisa from the game, and allow them to keep their spot in India. Vlad does not have to correspond. Giozzario will still be able to function in Mexico, and is allowed to remain in his homeland within the africa.

@ Dark Ermac… I said land or currency. And it wasn't even me who attacked you, so it would be Borgia who owes you anything, if anything.
@Sweetiebelle… I'm keeping my capitol in Africa, and I've already changed everything about my nation that has been used to justify a war against you, and gone so far as to offer to join the Sweetiebellion alliance. You don't need to worry about future attacks from us at all. Plus, I really want that coastal city. My counter offer is this
With the green line being the border. This is fair considering all the land I've already ceded abroad, especially in South America and Europe, to SB members, and that was the old government that attacked. Also, it seems that you've become hypocrites. You cried foul when we didn't show Xanthos mercy, but you want all of Deisa's land? I ask on their behalf that you give them at least the area in the yellow circle. A city state is better than nothing. EDIT: Also, they don't have land in India…
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@Syndic, that's awesome. You are officially my favorite GM of all time.

You know, Hephaestus doesn't have to take over Deisa's sliver of Arabia. Deisa could hold onto that.
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Although I can see from their point of view that Africa should be dominated by the Sweetiebellion to prevent future tragic wars that don't go in their favour, I don't see why Deisa has to cease to exist entirely.

We do not want all of Deisa's land. We're merely claiming his part of Africa, and allowing him to rebuild in Arabia and other places which he is currently annexing.

You're forgetting that Africa is the original home of Deisa. In fact, Deisa's capitol city was one of the first to be created in the game.

@Syndic… I know one of the first things you said when the game was started that you are inflexible… But considering everything that's going down, would you accept a turn that's over 12 lines this time? Because with all the developments going on I feel like cramming everything into 12 lines is going to leave too much out.

This decision isn't final, so please refrain from making any parts of your turn relating to this for now.

Of course. What kind of a negotiator do you think I am? I won't put any of that in my PM until we reach an agreement. Syndic can just label the land as disputed until then. It's just that I just lost a World War and now I need to do all this rebuilding, and confirm deals already settled and such. Not to mention all the social/ government changes in Giozzario. And after all of that, the regular items, such as techs, trade routes etc.
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Edit: Also, Syndic, you might make a turn tomorrow? Does this mean it's officially back onto turns every day, as opposed to every other day? I'd hate to bank on one and get kicked, and I don't know when I'll have time tomorrow to make my turn, but I'll try. I'd make it now, but I'm pretty sure things are going to develop before I wake up, and I don't want to confuse you by "updating" my turn with another PM.

It would be unwise of us to let our homeland be given away. I ask that you give me a small part of Deisa to build up again, an area next to the ocean.
The Yellow circle's location, but instead of the circle that land mass. What say you?
From there we'll recapture, if Vlad allows it, our territories Eastwards.
Now that we have light tanks, we should experience less losses in the art of jungle warfare.

And as such due to not recieving any help from HAZE members, we have withdrawn from the pact and wish to exist neutrally if you would allow us.
Our army is still large and highly trained, we will not let our entire land be conquered.
If you also wish, we could perhaps work out an agreement in which Deisa would join the Sweetiebelion and the organisation of peace.

Regards
Deisa.

Sounds fair to me. And we were going to send you help until everything went completely wrong. But the second part goes for Giozzario as well. We renounce HAZE, maintain a good, rounded military, and hope to either be admitted to the Sweetiebellion, or at least be on good terms with them.
Before the war started, they claimed their only goal was to stop my tyranny and HAZE's conquering of heathens non Zculans, which we have done completely, and reversed. I ask they stop being so greedy for land, as it is opposed to their original mission statement of merely ending tyranny. The sooner the land can be settled, however, the better.

We are not being greedy just trying to make our nations defensible and my nation will allow Deisa to keep the small plot of land next to the Nile but Giozzarios portion of Africa is completely up to Josh I shall let him choose he was the one attacked by you.

Also we would prefer not to have Giozzario part of our pact for a turn or two to let things cool down and we are also aren't trading techs with you either.

Also we are still debating about accepting the idea of a "UN".

(Lastly as a personnel note to nick please drop the attitude it doesn't help you it just pisses our members off but we are tolerant.)

The organization doesn't have to be a part of the game. If anything, we can use the forum as a UN.

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blue plz.
if not, teal

As long as we're given enough to land to rebuild what was lost, retake our colonies and given the freedom to do as we please without the fear of invasion. We are willing to listen to any offers.
With the right 'perks' the Fascist state of Deisa is willing to side with the 'right' team and you can bet that we are loyal.

We thank Sweetieopia for accepting.
Our forces have pulled back from all occupied land, both Deisan occupied Sweetieopian lands and Sweetiopian controlled Deisan lands. You are free to keep what you have started to occupy.
We hope you fully accept these terms of surrender so we can pursue foreign problems which will require a fair bit of resources. We do not wish to engage in a war that creates needless bloodshed if we can avoid it.

Vlad, I would appreciate it if you stop all expansion into formerly occupied Deisan lands, keep what you have got but allow us to recapture the rest.

Regards,
Deisa

Aww crap, sorry if I came off having an attitude, I woke up extremely early (for me), feeling sick, and logged on to submit my turn and add a post, and I guess my morning grouchiness crept it's way into my post. Again, sorry, I hope there's no hard feelings…
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Also, I understand about the distrust of me a and other HAZE nations, but hope one day we can put this all behind us and join together peacefully.

We are not greedy for land, but are doing this for the benefit of both sides. The Sahara Desert will provide as a natural barrier for both sides of Tita and Giozzario, which will then stop us from having any unnecessary war. The Nile River is also a natural barrier for Deisa, and we will let Deisa have all land on the other side of the Nile.
We are doing this to ensure peace, not to stomp all over you. Please accept this is also not official, as we have more to discuss. This is an important decision.

In the Assembly's opinion, the Sahara did nothing to stop former Theocratic Giozzario from taking Xanthos, so, should we ever go to war again (which I don't want to, especially not initiate), then it would be far from good protection. Plus, we're entering the aerial age, that is, with flight, making it less of a buffer zone every time a new plane is invented. Within a turn or to, the Sahara will be able to cross in hours. We really only want that coastal city for trade benefits, not as a military vantage point. Not to mention the low chances my citizens would be acceptant of your rule. No offense, but they've been zealot Zculans for centuries, and I doubt they're going to welcome my domestic change of government , much less a rival kingdom. Please consider this when asking for that much of my territory…

We're calling off the majority of invasions, but we're keeping Borneo and planning on continuing the attacks on India and Australia.

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The Far North
This region of the world is characterized by vast expanses of dense forests, mountains, or frozen plains and glaciers. Few people live here, and those whom do eke out a meager lifestyle of subsistence farming or fishing, rarely contributing to the global economy.
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Alaska
Sparsely populated, but still a significant boon to the Equestrian economy. This region is Equestria's single largest oil producing region, and has enabled them to remain a largely isolationist and self-sufficient nation for a long time. The local diet consists mostly of imported canned goods and grains from Formosa, but local fisheries are fruitful as well.
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California
California is a "land of tears mingled with blood." The northern cap, although owned by Equestria, is actually mostly populated with Gueyllano people who fled the Giozzi onslaught as their mainland was conquered. The remainder of this island continent is sparsely populated by anybody at all. Native Californians have been wiped almost into extinction by colonizers, warfare, and violent Gueyllano settlement of the island as a war outpost, and the new Gueylano settlers were afterwards massacred as their leadership led them into a fruitless all out war of race against the invading Giozzi. Presently the majority of the island is almost entirely unpopulated, minus the densely populated Equestrian lands to the north. California's economy used to thrive on gold and mineral exports, but today there are thousands of mines which had been abandoned and were never returned to after the fall of the Gueyllano.
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The Great Plains
Another land scorched by war, the Great Plains are home to the Lakota and other last remaining indigenous people in North America. to the far north, natives thrive with local autonomy given to them by Equestrian and Medicean governments that barely associate themselves with the locals. To the south the landscape is littered with ghost towns and military establishments from Borgian occupation, and concentration camps used to hold the masses of dangerous unemployed Lakotans. Presently this is the poorest region in the world with the highest rate of unemployment. Saying that the Great Plains has an economy would be the equivalent to saying the Sahara is an ocean.
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Texas
Almost entirely populated by devout Zculan Giozzi, Texas is the furthest right wing region in the empire. Their distance from the war and the lack of pressure put on them to devote anything to the war efforts has left Texas as a sort of lazy backwater state out of touch with the world. They still believe Zcula's word to be the right path for Giozzario, and blame the nation's defeat in the war on radicals and socialists sabotaging the nation from within. Texas is almost entirely agrarian, with cattle ranches and farms dominating the economy.

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Mexico
As the most densely populated region in the new world, Mexico gives Giozzario a significant amount of their economic power. Although there is next to no industry located in this region, it does produce a large amount of Giozzi finished goods through sweat shops and private workshops. Coffee, tea, beans, and rice are grown in Mexico, and this region is also Giozzario's breadbasket. The local Mexicans are devout Zculan followers, but the populace is mostly a mestizo mix race of Giozzi settlers and Gueyllano natives.
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New Borgia
New Borgia's primary export is cotton, followed by corn and rice. The region has no significant industrial base, and the infrastructure is extremely poor. Although rural, this region has a high population. The locals are very conservative and devout Zculans, despising the protestant middle man of Atlantis. As a result of their detest for the easterners, a large volume of trade is had with Texas instead.
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Hyrule
The Hylians are a suppressed people. Although the land is controlled by Hephaestus and the property is mostly owned by foreigners, the local people still hold fast to their traditions in secret. Public display of religious or cultural elements of Hyrule's past are greatly shunned by authority figures. Contrary to the rest of the new world, almost no immigrants have descended upon Hyrule, and the largest portion of foreign races present in Hyrule are Hephaestan military garrisons. The infrastructure is poor but improving under Hephaestan investment, and the region's primary economic resources are fish and lumber.
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Quebec
Quebec sees itself as more of an extension of Medicea, rather than a colony, and the people are fiercely patriotic, amounting for huge quantities of divisions for drafting. The people live in a mostly rural environment, and even the region's largest city is a town by comparison with other locations in the world. The primary exports are lumber, whale products, and fish.
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New Giozzario
The northernmost part of Atlantis, New Giozzario is closest to Europe and therefor receives the most immigrants. A very diverse and urban society, New Giozzario is the scene of race riots and political campaigns. These people are extremely devoted to popular sovereignty and the right to vote, while still (somewhat hypocritically) holding onto sexist and racist beliefs about new immigrants. The largest portion of Atlantean industry and trade runs through New Giozzario.

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Mid-Atlantis
This region is not quite as densely populated as its New Giozzario, but it still has a huge population. The local economy varies greatly, with urban centers being the focus of trade and industry while the countryside is heavily laden with farms and plantations. Farming is more evident in the southern reaches, while the denser population is located northwards. The region's primary export is cotton.
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The Caribbean
The Caribbean sea holds a plethora of different races, cultures, and nations. The Atlantean Caribbean, Florida, is sparsely populated due to the extreme humidity and easier lifestyle further north. However, the other islands do not have the option of moving to more comfortable living conditions, and have to tolerate it. Cuba is largely dominated by sugar plantations and rum distilleries, providing a great deal of alcohol to both the new and old worlds. The smaller Caribbean islands also have a few major plantations on them, but are dominated by a subsistence agriculture in which natives or settlers only provide for themselves.
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Bythia
The Bythian people, while being technologically modern, are primitive in both religion and culture. They have not yet conformed to the global Zculan ways, neither religiously or culturally, and their foods, habits, and social functions are seen by the rest of the "civilized" world as barbaric. Bythia is mostly agrarian and rural, with a few urban centers existing solely for trade and administration.
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Amazon Basin
The Amazon is one of the least populated regions in the world, at least according to census reports. Estimates say that 90% of the population are savage natives with no ties to governments. The region has an abysmal infrastructure, with almost no road system. Where there are roads, they are not more than a dirt path etched through the rainforest. This makes logistics next to impossible, and any war occurring in the Amazon would be slow, long, and deadly(mostly from disease and starvation). The region contributes little to the rest of the world. The Xanthosan colonies to the east do have many coffee plantations on the flat, deforested coastlines, but other than that there is not much civilization in the region
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Chile
This region is mountainous and sparsely populated. There has been little to no effort to encourage the settling of this region, despite its lucrative possibilities in mining and mineral harvesting such as copper.
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La Plata
La Plata is dominated by African settlers from Tita and Xanthos. The region is characterized by its entirely rural layout without any urban centers at all. This region produces the world's largest amount of cattle, and plenty of grains too.

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The Atlantic
There is not much to say about the handful of islands in the Atlantic. Their economies are small have have little interaction with the outside world, and these little landmasses act more as military bases than anything else.
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Northlands
A barren, cold, and rainy landscape, barely anybody lives in the Northlands. Being the springboard for protestant conversion in Britain and the rest of Medicea, the Northlands have many famous religious monuments and ovi, and protestant pilgrimages bring in a lot of tourist revenue.
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Britain
Britain is Medicea's homeland, and the base of their industry. The region is mostly urban, with very few people living in the countryside as farmers. Their primary exports are manufactured goods.
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France
Although being a last part of Medicea's cultural heartland, there is very little that makes France similar to Britain in any way. France is a mostly rural region, with large farms dominating the economic production. Grains such as wheat and barley are grown here, as well as great quantities of grapes for wine production.
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Mitteleuropa
Central Europe is slightly less densely populated that France, but the characteristic flat farmland of the west cannot be found here. Instead, forests and mountains cover the land, and a large amount of the region's workers are invested in the logging and mining industries. It is a center of devout European protestantism, although the people are more than tolerant of oppressive governmental regimes. Few people here are likely to rebel against the government. Primary exports include coal, lumber, and iron.
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Sweden
Sweden is an oddly densely populated region, and contains a good amount of industry. Medicea also bases a majority of its fisheries in the Baltic sea around Sweden, and the population is geared towards living in urban centers. Sweden has the fastest expanding industrial zone in the world.

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Scandinavia
This region is scarcely populated, and with good reason. The frigid temperatures deter immigrants, and the locals find good reasons to move to Sweden for job opportunities there. Very little is provided to the global markets from Scandinavia, and that is mostly in the way of fish, lumber, and iron.
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Russia
Despite not being densely populated, Russia holds a significant amount of Borgia's population simply due to its size. Most of the economy is based upon farming, and Russia is the breadbasket of Borgia.
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Borgia
The region containing Anatolia, Caucasia, and the lower Balkans is thickly populated by people of the Borg race, and it is the heart of their empire. This is where nearly 100% of Borg industry is based, and naturally their chief exports are inustrial goods. A chief concern amont natives to this region are protestant immigrants from Russia leaving their farms to work in the factories of Anatolia and Bulgaria, as their divergent religious beliefs and racial differences are causing discomfort for the native Borg.
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Italia
The Italian peninsula is split cleanly down the middle by Borgia and Giozzario, as is Sicily, but the entire region is mostly a racial and cultural mix of these two peoples. Native latin Italians are a minority, while Borg-Giozzi citizens are strong in numbers. There have been minor proposals and movements in the past to monopolize on this cultural difference to both motherlands to form their own independent state, but it has never gained enough force to make this a possibility. The primary productions in Italia are farm products such as fruits and grains.
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Libya
Libya is a largely autonomous region seperate from Borgian politics, acting on its own as more of a puppet state than an integrated part of the empire. Having the most independence from Borgia, the locals rarely contribute much to the economy besides acting as a Mediteranean middle man between Deisa/Hephaestus and Giozzario trade routes. However, this commercial enterprise is shrinking as factories are becoming more common, and Italian and Russian immigrants are begining to displace the native African populace.
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Giozzario
The ancient Giozzi homeland, Morocco and Iberia are densely populated by extremely devoute Zculan patriots who, until recently, obeyed the theocracy's every word unwavering and unquestioning. These days however, disenchanted with the government and its loss in the war, more and more people are turning to atheism or protestant faiths, and investing their political clout into fringe political parties including communists and fascists. This is the heart of Giozzi industry, but the primary exports are iron and other metals.

That is all for now, my good people. More will come later today or even tomorrow.

Nice essay, Syndic.

To Giozzario, this is my offer.

Well I'm not really in a good to position to bargain lol, but I feel that the border closest to Vezpu (Since nobody has named the city yet, I'm going to call it that, instead of referring to it as "that coastal city") is too close, and any eastern suburbs would be under your jurisdiction. I will agree to this:

Official Message from Lakota to Giozzario:

You can keep Texas.

Official Message from Lakota to Borgia:

As repayment for your slaughtering of a massive population of mostly harmless civilians, we would like to reclaim the southeast of the great plains, and would like funding for reparation efforts.

If you decline, we will pull out of the treaty.

So, are we going to end it here? Should I send in a PM?

Not to get all pissy again, but honestly, Dark Ermac, you are the weakest nation right now, and dont even have a military, so you're not in much of a position to threaten a power like Borgia…. Just saying… Okay Back to sorting out my new government…

That's true. However, I hate being in a state of helplessness.