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Man, so many English dubs. I'm giving you the episode for now.

The html already starts a few seconds before the phrase.

<iframe width="425" height="318" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/vNafuIr6p1U?start=125" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Should create the following:

In case that won't do, this code repeats the phrase for 10 minutes:

<iframe width="425" height="318" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/s2peL0dxNsE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Speaking of Lucky Star, several of its references are becoming viral like The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya and K-ON!. Does this mean it deserves a parent entry of its own?

@RandomMan

Thanks you, Man! Thank you so much!!
I embedded the code you gave to the article just now.

@1983parrothead

Hmm, I'm personally not interested in making parent entries so much. so, I don't know if we should have it.

Anyway, I think that these are instances of which something in Lucky Star is set to the main subject for fads/memes:

• Take It! Sailor Uniform / Motteke! Sailor Fuku -- opening parody
• Escape by Sleep and Reset! / Ne-Ni-Ge de Risetto! -- remix/mashup
• Balsamic vinegar / Barusamiko Su~ -- MADs
• Moetron / KimeKona-chan

Those are minor fads/memes:

• Sadakona-san -- a series of surreal Sadako+Konata illustrations on pixiv
• Korokona-san -- fanfiction for Konata originally made in Futaba Channel.

On the other hand, Lucky Star is reused in so many MAD videos because it was a popular anime at the predawn of MAD phenomena on NND. But NND users making those videos reused it as nothing but a resource for their play, and they weren't inspired by any specific characters/dialogs/scenes in that anime in particular.
So, I think that there is no worthy episode about those MADs enough to be described in the article in KYM.

So, If we have the parent entry for Lucky Star, it will need to list those topics and other fads which are probablly in outside Japan.

Hi. I know it's been a while since I've been around, but uh… I'm pretty interested on working on the Idolm@ster entry. I became interested in it because of the anime series.

I don't know too many of the fandom memes, but there should probably be a section for Nonowa as it's kind of the fan-made mascot character for the series.

There's a lot going for the series now… an online trading card game, three PSP games, DS games, two Xbox 360 games, the Xenoglossia anime, and the recent anime series. Puchim@ster is also pretty popular. More or less Namco made a lot of money off of this series…

I know there's some entries I still have to clean up. I plan on cleaning up the Madoka entry a bit more. Connect entry is done. I'll get to Nyoron and uh… there was something else I wanted to work on but I forgot.

@Alokp

It's been a long time!
I gave you an editorship for THE iDOLM@STER. Let's work hard together:)

Then, I think we'll have to make/clean up the article as a hub entry as same as other subculture entries (eg. Madoka, Haruhi, Touhou…).
And, as I wrote before, these topics in this phenomena deserve to have its own entry.

- Nonowa
- Home Haruka
- Tokachi Gold (music remix meme and IRL club event)
- NICOM@S (MAD video meme)
(- TeTeTe)

Now, I'm working on YTPMV entries, though I'm Japanese Specialist. hahaha.
So, After you finishing Madoka and Haruhi entries, let's start editing.

Sounds good. ^^ I actually have a lot of free time today, so I can probably get most of that stuff done today.

iDOLM@STER

has more or less been restructured. It would be great if you would fill in information on the Japanese memes. I can edit them for grammar later.

One thing is I added the character list and a short description along with some of the inside jokes attached to the characters. Normally I would not do this as it would kind of add too much of a wikipedia/unnecessary information feel, but I felt like iDOLM@STER kind of needed it. I did leave Kotori, Ritsuko, and the Dearly Stars characters out to save space though.

I kind of wanted to structure it to make it so that people who've never seen the series before would get an idea of why it's become popular.

Changes:

Changed the name of the Nasuverse article to Type-Moon as Nasuverse is more of a fan nickname, so people not familiar with the series are even less likely to find it.

Other Notes:

Nonowa should probably get it's own article… but actually, I feel like I don't have enough information on the character to start the article.

~ Futari Nomoji Pittan ~ / ~ ふたりのもじぴったん ~

(If the link fails, click here)

Hey there, I wanted to ask you people on some opinions.

Death Note.

I don't think I should explain it's popularity, but what I'd like to discuss is if it's worth a parent entry. Mainly because we gave Haruhi and Madoka a subculture entry, but chose not to for Lucky Star.

• "Just As Planned"
• L's Intro: This entry could use some work, but that's currently not the point.
• Matsuda, You Idiot!
• Kira's Laugh: This one is currently a sub-entry of Matsuda, You Idiot!
• I'll take a potato chip and EAT IT!
• What's Up People: So many dead links in this one, I can't even be certain anymore.

Besides that there was also the live-action film and some smaller stuff.

But does it qualify as a Hub entry?

@RandomMan
Though I'm not interested in making hub entry, I think the amount of entries is enough to have their hub entry.

> Entry List

Hmmm, it seems that "L's intro" and "What's up people?" need my work. Others are completely Westerner's fads.
And if I have time, I'll create an article about "Death Note Collage", the oldest Death Note parody fad on the Japanese web.

Here's the entry

I'll continue working on it for now, but feel free to jump in.

@RandomMan
Nice. I've done cleaning up all related entries. and added a new entry for pixiv fad:God of the New World Game

And I stop making an entry for death note collages. Those can't be understood at all by you guys because they completely depend on the Japanese language. Instead, I'll give a small mention about it to the hub entry.

About Lucky Star, back when the show was popular, it did have kind of a sizable fanbase. From what I remember… when I went to Osaka in 2009 to visit a friend, it was still really popular (at that time the Haruhi fanbase was dying out).

The only memetic thing I remember was Buta Kagami. Which I think? started out as a meme, but eventually gained official merchandise. From the impression I gathered, Kagami ended up being the most popular character in Japan (Western audiences preferred Konata). She even starred in several doujin games I saw at Gamers. Though, I think this was shortly after the OAV released so that might have boosted the show's popularity.

As for now, there's not really a noticeable impact. Motteke! Sailor Fuku became popular because it was a dance, and there were a decent number of MADs and remixes. The only one in particular I remember was Paffendorf, but that didn't come from Lucky Star either.

Ah! Actually, what I wanted to ask is what do you think about doing an entry for… ah… I forgot the term for it, but on Sundays Japanese anime fans drive around cars covered in anime decal. Would something like that be good for an entry? I've always been curious about how something like this started.

@Alokp
> Kagami buta
Yes Indeed. Kagamibuta (Bu Bu Kagabu) is a similar phenomena to Nyoro~n Churuya-san.

>Itasha
See Itasha – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

this is a sort of (sub)culture.

I think we can find the origin of this decoration style in Dekotora and Bōsōzoku's chopped bikes/cars. Moreover, enthusiastic fans for particular singers sometimes paint their car with their favorite singers. like this.

Japanese auto garages have took those works for over 40~50 years.

Sounds good! I'll make a stub article for Itasha and then expand on it when I have time.

How come there is no Japanese word for brony?

MLP isn't translated in Japanese or aired in Japan. So, ordinary Japanese people don't know the show.

And Japanese language already have the word for adults addicting anime shows for children. It is Ōkina otomodachi.

America:
Land of the free and home of the brave.

Although I appreciate you took the time to answer his post, he's clearly just a troll (if you couldn't tell from his latest post).

So feel free to ignore it next time.

@RandomMan
Thank you for your advice:)
Mmmm, it's very difficult for me to sniff out the smell of trolls in English…

How about Toothbrush rape? I saw many examples at Danbooru.
[Warning NSFW and Flagged Video]

And also Bottle meme from Pixiv was started.
[Warning: NSFW website]

Not any requests this time, just a review.

I've given the U.N Owen Was Her? entry a large clean-up. It lacked certain points that don't match with the current style guide. Grammar, wrong usage of html, not using footnotes, etc. Various videos and links were also dead, so those needed replacement. Plus some missing information on certain parts and I added more sections (with videos).

So can any of you who are more familiar with the Japanese web check if any stuff is missing that really deserves a mention, or point me out on stuff I did wrong. Feel free to request editorship if you think this is needed. Might be wise to tell that I was the person that added the Faerie’s Aire and Death Waltz, so feel free to ask me questions about that if you're having doubts on it.

Another thing: While scrolling through the other Touhou sub-entries, I noticed Night of Knights and Sakuya's Breast Padding suffer from the same issues. I'm willing to give them a clean-up this weekend, but everone here is free to help on it and add more stuff while at it.

@Ryuki Satzuki DrThundercritic

>Toothbrush rape
The original episode was aired in February 26th, 2012, and several amatuer illustrators soon began mimicking this scene. As of now, about 100 illustrations are uploaded to pixiv.

歯磨きプレイ

It's still small fad among some illustrators. Let's wait and see what happens for a while.

> pixiv Bottle meme
Yeah, this is one of the earliest and the most famous pixiv memes. I can easily make the draft soon, but I don't know how it has spread to western web. If you tell me about this, this is very helpful for me.

@RandomMan
Great Job.
Those entries have well enough information by Tomberry's careful research. So, unless you reduce them carelessly (KYM staffs sometimes do this unfortunately), it will be all ok only to format them to existing DB style.

@Mona

The main problem with those is dead links, certain parts of grammar, or hyperlinking instead of using footnotes.

So it's a quick fix. I was just wondering if you guys noticed any missing information.

@RandomMan
Oh, that reminds me.

I think "Raging X" section in Night of Knights should be split to its own article because the existing entry is too long. The amount of its videos is equal to that of Tamifluriver sisters. Fortunately, any "raging x" video hasn't been added to the video gallery yet.

I'm able to complete this work in a few hours.

Awesome, go do that.

Please check this out! → Raging X

Hmmm, I had to spend most of time to make a video collection….

Awesome!

Fixed some grammar and added it as a sub-meme to Touhou while I was at it.

Also as a follow up to your mentioning of the Tamifluriver Sisters. When looking at the entry I noticed quite some of these images in the image section.

But these aren't the only ones, various other images and gifs from the video have also been recreated numerous times (although those above are the most popular). Don't know if this is popular enough to warrant a mention, but perhaps an image table will do nicely. Similar to "Hurry up with the doping" in the Wonder Drug entry.

Just a tip.

OK! I'm going to do this soon.

I had a question- I looked around and I saw there was no entry for the "If you're still a virgin when you're 30, you become a wizard".

Apparently this came from Futaba where instead of wizard it's actually "magician"? That's about all I know about it's origin, but it is a popular meme on Western internet.

Do you happen to know anything about the origin of this? Or does this more apply as a popular internet myth rather than a meme?

An anime from last fall season poked fun at it (main character picked the "wizard" class for a game and became a 30 year old virgin with no magic skills), but it's been a popular phrase for a long time.

Hello everyone. Now I'm in busy for various reasons in my life.

@Alokp

> Virgin Wizards

The original expression is:
"30 Made Doutei De Sugosu To Mahou Tsukai Ni Naru"
"If you stay a cherry until your're 30, you become a wizard."

It's occasionally expressed like this:

"30 Made Doutei De Sugosu To Mahou Ga Tsukaeru You Ni Naru"
"If you stay a cherry until your're 30, you become to be able to spell magics."

Doutei (童貞) means only male's virgin. And "cherry" is more suitable translation for Doutei because it includes more insulting nuance than virgin.

Accoding to several Japanese websites, its origin is a jargon term in a questionnaire generating website called "Automatic Questionnaire" (全自動アンケート, Zen Jidou Ankehto) around 1999 or 2000.
In this website, users called aged cherry boy as "wizard".

http://www.paradisearmy.com/doujin/pasok_wizard.htm
http://getnews.jp/archives/70053

Then, the thread posted on /male/ (single male) board in 2channel began spreading this phrase to the web. the first thread was posted on August 5th, 2002.

http://salami.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/male/1028475574/ (Original Link)
http://www.geocities.co.jp/siliconvalley/1775/archives/1028475574.html (Archive)

This is nothing more than internet legend, but it has been occasionally cited in other media (TV shows, animes, or mangas) since the middle of 2000s.

If we gather those information, we can make an article for this, though I don't know it deserves to have an entry in KYM.

Shouldn't this be added to the "Anime Opening / Ending Parody MADs entry?

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/kodomo-no-jikan-ending-parodies

The reason why I didn't set that entry under anime op/ed parody mads is I have an objection to the usage of parent entry feature and am waiting for a new style guide that Brad promised updating in suggestion thread.

Briefly speaking, I think that we had better use "tags lists" and "similar entries" feature for the relationship of entries by their style.

Every now and then I see these type of images pop up, where they just draw every character from an innocent show as a steroids abusing male (most commonly related to JoJo's Bizarre Adventure).

Is this just 1 artist who makes a lot, or is it more of an art style in general. And if it's the second, is it notable?

@RandomMan

Those illustration are released by one Doujin circle "OJO-NO-YOKUSHITU" (lit. princess's bathroom) and they mimick Tetsuo Hara's style (Hokuto No Ken), not Hirohiko Araki's style (JJBA).

http://ybce.jp/~common/comic/

Almost all parody illustrations of this style which are reproduced to the web are made by them.
So, I don't think it's so notable.

So just an art group based on a specific style, nothing big to give a mention.

Thanks mona, great help as always.

I've seen this song pop up in a bunch of Medleys and MADs and it reminded me of the AC Japan commercial. Is it any similar to it? Since it is called "Go! Go! Elections" and promoted by something called the The Association For Promoting Fair Elections I don't think it's just some kid's shows opening

Here is a MAD Video that we need to research.

http://youtu.be/vfYfT6--UBQ?hd=1

It's a compilation of Oto MADs Set to "on and on" from Mojipittan Daijiten.

Naruto always makes really random faces so he would make for a great japanese meme but in the mean time :

Don't go trolling in Meme Research please.

@nohaynicklibre

"Go! Go! Elections" is not an animation film from any kids shows. That is a sort of PSA and the educational video for 20-year-old people who are considered as new adults and have reached to be granted the franchise in Japan, which tries to teach them the importance of elections and announce them to go to elections.

This video first got an attention when it was provided at coming of age ceremonies in several Japanese cities in January 2010, because it was too childish to be provided to 20-year-old people. This video was soon uploaded to Nico Nico Douga and set to a subject for online mockery in that month.

• "GO! GO! Elections" Search results on NND

If there were any English-subtitled videos of this series, it's easy for us to make an entry for this video.

@iheartniconico
Yeah, "on and on" is now trending music resource among OTO-MAD editors and it seems that this fad was begun in this January.

• "on and on" Search results on NND

If this song is imported to YTPMVs as same as other popular music resources, we'll need to have an entry for this song. I think so.

@mona_jpn And even this: http://www.nicovideo.jp/tag/I%27m_so_happy

The popularity of the song is led by another fad on NND "Cookie", and those are driven by famous annoying online tribe called "Inmufags", who are the fanatics of A Midsummer Night's Lewd Dream.

So, we need to have an entry for Cookie before the entry for the song. I'm going to write an entry for cookie after new style guide is released by KYM staffs.

It seems that Japan is uploading not only 10 minute videos, but even with other different time amounts. They seem to thought they came up with this idea first before the Insane Edition / 10 Minute Video Challenge.

These videos can be found under the tag 10分間.

Those videos are called "10 minutes endurance series" (10分耐久シリーズ, Juppun Taikyuu Series) in Nico Nico Douga as well.

The earliest famous instance of this series in Nico Nico Douga had already been uploaded to YouTube in February 2007, when NND didn't have its own video sharing service and was freeriding to YouTube videos. This is the reason why those are basically 10 minutes videos. Moreover, this video is also the first hit "MAD" videos both on NND and The IDOLM@STER Phenomena.

• Search results for 10分耐久シリーズ (sorted by date)

According to this search results, several videos in this series had been already uploaded to NND before it began on YouTube.

Nowadays, as you know, NND allows uploading long videos, and standard length of those videos is 100 minutes. Those videos are named "100 minutes endurance series" (100分間耐久シリーズ, Hyappun-kan Taikyuu Series)

• Search results for 100分間耐久シリーズ

As you said, it seems that the invention of this series on NND was earlier than that on YouTube.

Speaking of Agent of the Night… should it get it's own section in the Idolm@ster entry? … I already feel like that article is too long and I kind of want to trim parts out.

Though, I figure it is noteworthy to mention that Agent of the Night was in the Nico Nico Medley song.

Oh. And sorry to double post, but can Te-te-te be moved to submeme under Idolm@ster?

@Alokp

Oh, I forgot to do it. I set Te-te-te under THE iDOL@STER just now.

> Agent of the Night

As you know, all songs in idolm@ster is sung by all characters. But, notable "Agent of the Night" is Ami/Mami Futami version only because of her lispy singing and Japanese folk song style vibrato. her songs are called "loli-folk song" (ロリ演歌, Loli Enka). And, the word "Tokachi", the title of both music remix movement in THE iDOL@STER phenomena and yearly club event, comes from her "Agent of the Night".

I think that we have to mention about this in Tokachi Gold entry, but don't need to do in others.

Ah. I see. I knew that the Ami/Mami version was the most popular, but that reason is pretty interesting. I'll add that to the Tokachi Gold section. :) Thanks!

Hey, can I also add Skirt Flip?
Examples (NSFW)
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=640084
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=304813
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1489409
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1132675
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1167610
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1132560
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=997978
But I know the original, from To Aru Kagaku No Railgun (I think) but I don't know the episode.
A bit similar to Table flip