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@mona_jpn

I found out, that comments always say "/hidden".
There are over 1.000 videos. Click here.

@エア本さん a.k.a gi97ol

Sigh… "/hidden" is a fake nicoscript command to troll people who wants to watch explicit scene in videos. So, this troll appears on sexual videos only

Hey young boy, what are you watching on Nico Nico… ?:)

Please, don't misunderstand me but I was watching ONLY MADs and saw this /hidden thing. I didn't know what this thing was.

What other Nicoscripts do you know, before you have other wrong thoughts about my "watching interests" on Nico Nico Douga?

BTW, did you contact with your community about this song and this prank intros?

I added a new entry ココロオドル-kokoro-odoru.

@エア本さん a.k.a gi97ol
HAHAHA. I'm just joking. sorry:)

> nicoscripts

Because you can't read video's descriptions written in Japanese, you can't understand what (fake) nicoscripts are and how video poster trolls watchers. And troll commands are rarely related to memes or fads.

I don't want to spend my time to explain such a trivial topic.

> prank intro

I don't have such a community you expected. Please do it yourself on YouTube. Maybe YTPoopers are more familiar to that song than me.

> Kokoro Odoru

Yeah, I think this song deserves to have an entry. it has enough derivatives and presence on NND.

Thanks for submission. I'll tweak that later.

@mona_jpn

Yes. XD (laughing face text art)

Anyway, if creating the Train MADs (or The Series of Heavy Stopover) entry is easy, then any origin and / or trigger videos and info available? And what are some of the most notable MADs?

@1983parrothead

"The Series of Heavy Stopover" is a literal translation and it won't be suitable for entry's title, I guess.
Train MADs will be nice. It's simple and straight.

Train MADs have a well-written wiki page.
According to this page, The trigger is this: JR EAST announced the precious thing (beta). It was uploaded to NND on July 13th, 2007. And its complete version was posted on July 21st, 2007.
Of course, it's a derivative of the Touhou song "Marisa stole the precious thing", the most popular musical resource in the earliest days of MAD video phenomena on NND.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGZIvd-f24c (beta)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP5FOpBWiTQ (Complete version)

The complete version is more suitable for embedding in the entry.

• Search results for 大変な途中下車シリーズ (Sorted by Views)

Notable MADs are most-viewed ones in NND. And Happily, we've already made entries for musical resources in those popular videos.

On the other hand, we may need to add several videos reusing English announcements to explain amusingness of this series to English speakers.
I don't know where any good examples are. Did you find this kind of videos on YouTube?

@mona_jpn

Is that all the info I need to start the entry by myself and then tweak later?

→ English announcements

The only one I found was playing the song "Sky High" from Kirby Super Deluxe. Unfortunately, the video has been removed by the user. It was the same video I showed you earlier. But, I found only the sound at the Flipnote Hatena:

http://flipnote.hatena.com/18E840F051E184F1@DSi/movie/E184F1_0A8EF5022DE91_001

Yeah, we're ready to kick off the entry.

> English announcements

OK. I'll search and embed videos including English announcements as much as that Sky High's one.

Train MADs is now submitted. Instead of working on SnowGoose next, let's work on Seibu Keisatsu next (if necessary), then SnowGoose to make it closer to this holiday season, then BEMANI.

How about we make an entry called "I was hungry (Lamaze P)" (japanese: おなかすいた(ラマーズP))
Do you agree?

@1983parrothead
Thanks. I'm tweaking it now. After finishing it, let's work on Seibu Keisatsu.

@gi97ol
> I'm hungry (Lamaze-P) / おなかすいた(ラマーズP)

As far as I remember, Oclaf had already noticed this video series before.
And in these 6 months, enough amount of videos have been uploaded to NND.

NND – Search results for おなかすいた(ラマーズP)

Origin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr3VH3HyvTU (Lamaze-P's video)

Trigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W1VdaGKbQ8 (Touhou version)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDEgpn_prlA (Singing Cover by a famous NND user)

At least, these 3 videos are required for making the entry.

Sorry for taking a long time. I've finished tweaking for Train MADs.

I underestimated the popularity and spread of Train MADs in NND. There were much more things we should document…

Well done! Now it needs to be added as a sub-meme of MADs. After that, let's post the origin and spread info of the Seibu Keikatsu OP Parody.

@1983parrothead
Oh I forgot it. I gave "similar entry" section to that article just now.

> Seibu Keisatsu

Origin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O7Uke3Dj_A (Link)

The origin is the Opening movie for Japanese drama Seibu Keisatsu Part III which was aired from April 1983 to October 1984. The song is "Wonderful Guys" written by the Japanese famous classic/pop music composer Kentaroh Haneda.

• Seibu Keisatsu – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As Wikipedia says, its quite ridiculous scenario and nonsense rendition are very memorable for Japanese TV watchers. And Seibu Keisatsu is representative of too macho police drama of 1980s.

• NND – Search results for 西部警察OP_MAD (sorted by Old date)

It's not sure whether this is the trigger, but one of the earliest instances which have scored many page views is this video featuring Bandai Namco's video game Ace Combat 6. It was uploaded to NND on November 29th, 2007.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2TOdMmRFqI (Link)

Maybe, those videos deserve to embed in Notable examples section:

• 西部警察OPと西武鉄道を合わせてみた(高画質) (Train MADs)
• 【MADです】フォールアウト３ テレビドラマ版OP【FALLOUT3】 (Fall Out 3)
• SAIBU警察PART-ⅢOP【チャー研×西部警察PART-ⅢOP】 (Chargeman Ken!)
• 涼宮憂鬱　PART3 (The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya)

I think this is all what we need to kick off the entry.

Seibu Keisatsu Part III OP Parodies is now submitted.

@1983parrothead
Thank you. I've finished tweaking that.

And I made a misunderstand again. That Haruhi's video above isn't a reprint of one of most popular video on NND. So I replaced it to a GTA4 version.

Okay! Before we start the SnowGoose entry, we shall review several Japanese meme entries for videos that are now offline, then add new ones to them. One example is the "X is Training" entry. I'll upload some new videos to DailyMotion instead of YouTube.

I already submitted the entry. Click >> here <<

Looks like the fad died out. :(

What's your YouTube username? :) I just want to ask >_>

Mine is obviously gi97ol

I was saving SnowGoose for after Halloween. )-:< On YouTube, my user name is the same.

I'm always appreciate to your high motivation for making entries especially Japanese memes/fads entries. I've joined into that article and added 1983parrothead to the editors. I'm going to tweak that later.

BTW, you seems you did the same mistake as usual because you couldn't read nico nico pedia.

Shuzo Matsuoka wasn't the trigger of that series, but Hammer was. if You had been able to read the Nico Nico Pedia, You would know that.

Oh, I forgot to post this good news.

Niconico finally launched its full English version yesterday.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/

can you post a link to the english version of nico nico douga? i can't find it

The english version is in the same link: www.nicovideo.jp

Drop down menus for choosing regions and languages are in the bottom right left of that index page.

Probably, similar to YouTube, language versions automatically shown on browsers are decided by web browser's language setting. It seems that non-English users except for Taiwanese users have to change it manually.

I can see it and my opinion to this layout is, that it nearly looks like YouTube… :(
It's really bad, layout should be changed…

I've finished rewriting Snow Goose.

@1983parrothead

>Offline Videos
OK. In addition to this. I have to add videos to Final Fantasy entries I recently wrote.
Let's have a time to work for maintenance for existing entries for a while.

@mona_jpn

OK. For Hissu Amoto San, we probably should stick with Nico Nico Douga uploads instead of finding a very foreign video sharing website from countries like Russia, and see if they can last long on them.

Another entry suggestion: 妖精族のこども (Family Child Fairy)
The short stems is from the game "Seiken Densetsu 2". It was composed by Hirohi Kikuta.
On Nico Nico Douga there are 321 videos under this tag.
Earliest video including this song >> 世界でいちばんダサい聖剣伝説２　part2
Earliest 音MAD >> 聖剣伝説２「妖精族のこども」叩いてみた
The three videos with the most views >>
黒猫族のくんか
学生族のなの
【けいおん！】いもうと属性の憂【妖精族のこども】

Are these valuable for an entry?

THERE'S ALREADY AN ENTRY FOR THAT: knowyourmeme.com/memes/x-of-the-sprite-tribe
I think you are asking for a expansion to that entry.

Oh didn't expect that! Thank you very much!

I have a question:
How can I loop my NND videos? Like it stops at 52 seconds and returns to the first 5 seconds.

(Sorry for the Late)
Mona this fad is starts spreading. I think that 90+ is a pretty impressive number to make this fad deserve a Entry.
Also it starts spreading outside of Japan as well


I also found the song on YouTube!


So I am +1 Positive for the creation of an Entry!
If you could work on it, l would be very Glad and Thankful (I would add the Media and take care of the Galleries for you!)

@Oclaf
OK! PLEASE SHOOT ALL YOUR BULLETS INTO THE GALLERY!!!
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tamagotoji

AS YOU ORDER! ♥

@gi97ol
Your question is off-topic for this "meme research" thread. So I posted about it on your wall. Check that out.

@Oclaf
HAHAHA. Thanks for "Shooting" so many videos:)

Hopefully a simple question: I was interested in learning more about vocaloids, so I was reading the Miku Hatsune entry, when my nit-picking brain couldn't help but notice that she is referred to as "Miku Hatsune" ten times (including the entry title) and "Hatsune Miku" seventeen times. While it might be useful to mention that being Japanese means her name could sort of go either way, I'd like to suggest that the article be consistent, perhaps even referring to her as simply "Miku" anywhere the full name is not needed. I'd be willing to edit it myself, but I'd like to know what the consensus is.

"Hatsune Miku" refers not only to the name of the character but also to the title of the application. In latter case, we should write its title as "Hatsune Miku" in proper form. and in other cases, it's OK to call her as "Miku" for short.

Besides, that article is too long to read. I think we had better slice it to several sub-entries.

Small question, but what exactly would 番長 translate to? I always had the impression that they were some kind of high school gang boss, but I know this isn't 100% accurate.

@mona_jpn:
Thanks, I'll clean up the entry as best I can for now!

Could someone explain what 例のあれ means, as one of the nicovideo categories please? Information that may be relevant is at dic.nicovideo.jp/a/例のアレ

Hi, Alokp! How have you been?

> Banchō

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banchō

I don't have any good translation for Banchō which is used in fictions, especially in Japanese anime, manga and games. In these case, Banchō not only means a title of "Boss" but also includes his philosophy and honor as Banchō, a typical character type of good old Japanese rambunctious boys in junior/senior high schools.

In these case, we had better replace it to characters name or use Banchō simply for translation.

On the other hand, nowadays the original meaning of Banchō is almost disappeared in mainstream culture. And it's usually used as a equivalent term of "leader" or "captain". For example, "Fashion Banchō" (おしゃれ番長, Oshyare Banchō) simply means "Fashion leader".

In this case, we can easily give it a good translation.

A literal meaning of "例のあれ" (Rei no Are) is "that thingy". And on NND, it is a euphemism of MAD and parody videos mostly violating to Japanese copyright laws.

In past days, the huge amount of MAD and parody videos had been trolling other categories such as "fashion" and "entertainment" because NND didn't have a suitable category tag for them. So, NND's admins made this category to insulate those annoying videos in 2010.

Haha under the tag "Fashion" on NND I found Airmoto videos :D

Shuzo Matsuoka entry needs more work.

I've added Shuzo Matsuoka's trigger video and its translated script.

While I was searching for videos to post for the Two Two entry, this video managed to catch my eye. It took me awhile to find out the song being used, which was Two Faced Lovers by Hatsune Miku.

Soon as I found out what the song was, I began searched and continued to find more remixes. (I post others, but I don't want to slow down the page).

Does anyone got any insight on this fad, and how big it is was or currently is?

Also, I like to say that I'm impressed that so much work managed to come out of this. Amazing job!

What??? We don't have an entry for this fad? :O
Let's get started!

@VanManner
Hmmm, I'm not yet positive about making entries for Vocaloid songs.

There are dozens of popular Vocaloid songs that have the numerous kind and huge amount of fan works including MAD videos reusing them. Once we give an entry to one of them, we'll have to do the same to all of others. It'll take an inordinate amount of time and efforts.

Of course, we have the actual achievements which we did it to Touhou songs and Final Fantasy songs. So I know it's not a enough reason…

For example, here are Vocaloid-relating entries I've made. these are not for songs themselves, but for online phenomenon which Vocaloid songs play an important part of them.

• Heart Sutra Remixes
• When I get home my wife always pretends to be dead
• Rolling Series

I think we have to work for Vocaloid songs in such cases only.

@1983parrothead
Nice. I'll tweak that old layout later, too.