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Three-fold suggestion for preventing trolls/shitposters

Last posted Jun 18, 2015 at 04:14AM EDT. Added Jun 17, 2015 at 01:13AM EDT
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Simply because we seem to see a lot of shitposters as of late, I suggest a few different ideas to help prevent them from even appearing. Don't know if these have been implemented, but at least suggesting them nonetheless.

1) IP Banning. Keep the usual suspension rules and such for good users (i.e. the ones who pass suggestions 2 and/or 3), but if a user continues to make new accounts just to troll and shitpost, ban the IP and its sub-addresses altogether. Drew Pickles, the (in)famous KYM troll from a few years back, kept switching accounts over and over, and Rip Cheato seems to be doing that this time around. Would probably make things simpler if we were able to mass-block anyone who attempts to maliciously mess with content on here.

2) A probationary period for new accounts. I'd say a good week or so. In this probationary period, they aren't able to create new articles or post on articles/user pages, but can post in the forums. And when they do post, the mods can be aware and hand out the ban if it appears malicious and blanket-delete the posts. This would prevent them from showing up and shitposting somewhere "important" immediately.

3) A legitimate semi-visible (on userpages and inthe forums, but not on articles) karma system. Upvotes and downvotes being separate from this system, since everyone at some point will post something well-received and something poorly-received. In this, users can give positive karma for legitimate help and insightful posts, both in the forums and in the main articles, but receive negative karma for trolling and shitposting. It would have to be mod-watched, so as to prevent mass karma-awards just because "I approve of this post," but if properly implemented and watched, it would quickly separate good users from bad ones, and could help legitimate new members fin the right users to listen to and learn from.

Like I said, I don't know if any of these are implemented, and part of me is sure the ideas have already been thrown out there. But I'm (re)submitting them anyway, because we've had a slew of regular trolls lately, and I would prefer to prevent that, fun as it may sometimes be to mess with them.

No offense, but I think you're overreacting. The best way to fix this is reporting these "trolls" to the mods, we'll deal with them.

1)

Yes, we do perform IP bans, when the situation calls for it. If they have an alt then we take care of them as well. Otherwise we warn and/or suspend, small offenses are not something to be banned for. Every case is different and needs a different way to approach it.

2)

That idea has been brought up in the past and it was rejected, every single time. Not letting new user make entries is a bad idea, you're wasting potential because of a few trolls? I think the priority here is other.

Also, we don't delete posts. The admins made it clear that comments and forum posts cannot be deleted except for spam, NC content or an autoplay. Period.

3)

>Krama matters

It doesn't and again, the idea of changing the karma system was proposed but it didn't go anywhere. The karma system won't change nor we're going to have control over it. We are not going to moderate and tell people how they should vote a post, it sounds like a pain in the ass to be frank.

And I don't quite get how punishing people for downvoting a post they don't like is going to help to stop trolls. Like I said, karma points aren't relevant at all, it's just a number and that's it.


Once again, you're overreacting a bit. None of those ideas are good or helpful. In the meanwhile, don't feel the troll and report it to a mod. That's the best solution I can give you and the only one it works.

Last edited Jun 17, 2015 at 01:58AM EDT

Too bad this is 2015 and everybody has a dynamic IP address that can be changed by unplugging your router, doing something for 2 minutes, and then coming back.

Great Aunt Dildred wrote:

Too bad this is 2015 and everybody has a dynamic IP address that can be changed by unplugging your router, doing something for 2 minutes, and then coming back.

Rip Cheato pls.

Too bad this is 2015 and everybody has a dynamic IP address that can be changed by unplugging your router, doing something for 2 minutes, and then coming back.

Imagine achieving so little in your life that you waste time on creating an account on a memesite multiple times.

Loli wrote:

No offense, but I think you're overreacting. The best way to fix this is reporting these "trolls" to the mods, we'll deal with them.

1)

Yes, we do perform IP bans, when the situation calls for it. If they have an alt then we take care of them as well. Otherwise we warn and/or suspend, small offenses are not something to be banned for. Every case is different and needs a different way to approach it.

2)

That idea has been brought up in the past and it was rejected, every single time. Not letting new user make entries is a bad idea, you're wasting potential because of a few trolls? I think the priority here is other.

Also, we don't delete posts. The admins made it clear that comments and forum posts cannot be deleted except for spam, NC content or an autoplay. Period.

3)

>Krama matters

It doesn't and again, the idea of changing the karma system was proposed but it didn't go anywhere. The karma system won't change nor we're going to have control over it. We are not going to moderate and tell people how they should vote a post, it sounds like a pain in the ass to be frank.

And I don't quite get how punishing people for downvoting a post they don't like is going to help to stop trolls. Like I said, karma points aren't relevant at all, it's just a number and that's it.


Once again, you're overreacting a bit. None of those ideas are good or helpful. In the meanwhile, don't feel the troll and report it to a mod. That's the best solution I can give you and the only one it works.

I'll say this, I've been wondering about these for several months now, but I'm not a regular forums user (and probably won't be). Only now put it to the mods since it seems I'm personally Rip Cheato's new favorite user.

But thanks for clearing up why you do/don't use them. Like I said, I figured these had been submitted and wanted to hear the reasoning why they hadn't been implemented.

RandomMan wrote:

Too bad this is 2015 and everybody has a dynamic IP address that can be changed by unplugging your router, doing something for 2 minutes, and then coming back.

Imagine achieving so little in your life that you waste time on creating an account on a memesite multiple times.

>waste time
>2 minutes
I don't know what to tell you if you can't find 2 minutes out of your day to do whatever you want

also lamprey I'm pretty sure you said at one point that you weren't a brony

Last edited Jun 18, 2015 at 04:13AM EDT
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