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Last posted Feb 28, 2019 at 10:07PM EST. Added Jul 08, 2012 at 08:44PM EDT
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I'm a bit baffled as to why Exeggutor would be given the dragon type in Aloha. I'm sure there's probably some significance behind it but until people figure the meaning behind it, it just comes off as a random typing to me.

I'm more of a fan of Aloha Vulpix/Ninetales design than the Aloha Sandslash/Sandshrew.

The collector in me wants to go out of my way to capture the Oricorio and Minior forms. The trailer didn't mention if Minior's forms are island exclusive but I suspect they are.

The Donald Trump resemblance continues with Gumshoos. One of them even appears as a Totem Pokemon as part of the Trials. Will Totem Gumshoos make Aloha great again? Find out this November.

Fomantis and lurantis are cute looking. That's all I can really think about.

Mudbray – I have no strong feelings one way or the other.

Riding your Pokemon has taken a whole new level. Since Charizard was featured as among the Pokemon that be riden, I take it the Kanto starters will be part of the Aloha pokedex like how they were with the Kalos pokedex.

Z-moves yeah. I think they were revealed in a Japanese trailer first early in July. I don't remember seeing them in an English trailer. I'd like to see the dancing animation of the other types instead of the starter types and electric though.

Now the big one. The Island Challenge. Our replacement of the 8 gyms and Pokemon league. The challenges and Kahunas pretty much function as gyms in all but name.

This game won't be the typical challenge 8 gyms, stop the villain team from taking over/destroying the world, challenge the Pokemon league and defeat the Champion.

Are we even going to have a villain team this generation? The Pokemon Company has been keeping quiet about their existence. When were the previous villain teams revealed before their respective games were released?

With all the changes Sun and Moon is undergoing, It does make me wonder if Ash is actually going to win the Kalos Pokemon League since Aloha doesn't appear to have one. If there is a tournament, it won't the traditional one the anime always does.

Missed out on the chance to call Sandshrew/Sandlsash, Snowshrew/Snowslash

Gumshoos

Dick Gumshoe

even better

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Lurantis is super adorable and I love it.
Exeggutor's 35ft neck is meme material.
Minior looks like something I might put on my team, actually. I really liked the concepts behind Solrock and Lunatone even if they weren't stellar (HAH) pokemon battle-wise, so this is right up my alley.
I swear the Trump resemblance in Yungoos/Gumshoos is intentional.

Z-moves are just a cheap trick to make weak pokemon stronger.
Jokes aside, I'm not really a fan of how they're implemented. I guess it would be neat if there were more than just one for each type to make them as least sort of unique, but as it stands I think it's lame that every grass type gets the same one, every fire type, etc. Not to mention it's another "once per battle" mechanic, which I still don't like.

I'm hoping and praying they give ice ninetales a decent buff over standard ninetales. If they can give it at least above 100 base special attack and speed, i'll be happy. Aside from all that, I'm just glad I have an excuse to carry around more than one vulpix/ninetales.

So, now that they have been all but confirmed, is it okay to talk about the final evolutions of the starters leak? I'm going to spoiler it just in case.

Be warned, below there be leaks

If you don't know what I am talking about

Which was leaked somewhere and found its way to /vp/ over a month ago, along with now confirmed info, including no Gyms and a bird that has a different form for each island.
If you take closer look at the litten evo

That is beyond coincidence.

Now, just like the first stage starters, the Water one is the best. We finally get a proper Mermaid/Siren Pokemon. It appears to be based off a singer and it's typing was Water/Fairy. Like with Delphox, I will probably soft reset until I get a female because that is the most feminine starter yet. And I love it, it's new, it's fresh, it's pretty, it's an all around great design. 10/10

Rowlets also a neat design, sort of a Robin Hood themed mon, and that Feather Arrow thing is the shit! It's face is a little weird, it looks like it's wearing nerd glasses, but that's okay. It definitely pointing that feather like it's explaining something. does look nerdy While I will pick Popplio for my main game, my second game is definitely Rowlet. 9/10

And then there's Litten's evo. The leak says its a Fire/Dark type and it's based of a wrestling heel. In every other way though, it's a Fire/Fighting. It's design screams Fighting, humanoid, muscular, manly, based off a fighting style ONE THAT HAS A STARTER ALREADY!!! I saw in the comments someone who put it right "In a vacuum, it's an good design, but it's not in a vacuum" We get two very creative starters for Water and Grass, and for Fire, it's more of the same. I don't care if it's Fire/Dark, it's too similar to Fire/Fighting for me to like it, I want something new, not Blaziken 4.0. Vaccum 8/10, in reality, 6/10. Not bad per-say, but man what a let down, especially after the other two hit it our of the park.

Ryumaru Borike wrote:

So, now that they have been all but confirmed, is it okay to talk about the final evolutions of the starters leak? I'm going to spoiler it just in case.

Be warned, below there be leaks

If you don't know what I am talking about

Which was leaked somewhere and found its way to /vp/ over a month ago, along with now confirmed info, including no Gyms and a bird that has a different form for each island.
If you take closer look at the litten evo

That is beyond coincidence.

Now, just like the first stage starters, the Water one is the best. We finally get a proper Mermaid/Siren Pokemon. It appears to be based off a singer and it's typing was Water/Fairy. Like with Delphox, I will probably soft reset until I get a female because that is the most feminine starter yet. And I love it, it's new, it's fresh, it's pretty, it's an all around great design. 10/10

Rowlets also a neat design, sort of a Robin Hood themed mon, and that Feather Arrow thing is the shit! It's face is a little weird, it looks like it's wearing nerd glasses, but that's okay. It definitely pointing that feather like it's explaining something. does look nerdy While I will pick Popplio for my main game, my second game is definitely Rowlet. 9/10

And then there's Litten's evo. The leak says its a Fire/Dark type and it's based of a wrestling heel. In every other way though, it's a Fire/Fighting. It's design screams Fighting, humanoid, muscular, manly, based off a fighting style ONE THAT HAS A STARTER ALREADY!!! I saw in the comments someone who put it right "In a vacuum, it's an good design, but it's not in a vacuum" We get two very creative starters for Water and Grass, and for Fire, it's more of the same. I don't care if it's Fire/Dark, it's too similar to Fire/Fighting for me to like it, I want something new, not Blaziken 4.0. Vaccum 8/10, in reality, 6/10. Not bad per-say, but man what a let down, especially after the other two hit it our of the park.

Now that you mention the typing of the final evos, I have to wonder the typing found on the official pokemon page, which had Ground and Fighting in the source code. Maybe this hints at another potential leak which stated that the starters would have two final evolutions. And going by the source code Rowlet's second evolution will be Grass/Ground, Litten been Pure Fire type and Popplio having Water/Fighting. So maybe we will get another form for Litten, one that hopefully looks more original.

Ryumaru Borike wrote:

So, now that they have been all but confirmed, is it okay to talk about the final evolutions of the starters leak? I'm going to spoiler it just in case.

Be warned, below there be leaks

If you don't know what I am talking about

Which was leaked somewhere and found its way to /vp/ over a month ago, along with now confirmed info, including no Gyms and a bird that has a different form for each island.
If you take closer look at the litten evo

That is beyond coincidence.

Now, just like the first stage starters, the Water one is the best. We finally get a proper Mermaid/Siren Pokemon. It appears to be based off a singer and it's typing was Water/Fairy. Like with Delphox, I will probably soft reset until I get a female because that is the most feminine starter yet. And I love it, it's new, it's fresh, it's pretty, it's an all around great design. 10/10

Rowlets also a neat design, sort of a Robin Hood themed mon, and that Feather Arrow thing is the shit! It's face is a little weird, it looks like it's wearing nerd glasses, but that's okay. It definitely pointing that feather like it's explaining something. does look nerdy While I will pick Popplio for my main game, my second game is definitely Rowlet. 9/10

And then there's Litten's evo. The leak says its a Fire/Dark type and it's based of a wrestling heel. In every other way though, it's a Fire/Fighting. It's design screams Fighting, humanoid, muscular, manly, based off a fighting style ONE THAT HAS A STARTER ALREADY!!! I saw in the comments someone who put it right "In a vacuum, it's an good design, but it's not in a vacuum" We get two very creative starters for Water and Grass, and for Fire, it's more of the same. I don't care if it's Fire/Dark, it's too similar to Fire/Fighting for me to like it, I want something new, not Blaziken 4.0. Vaccum 8/10, in reality, 6/10. Not bad per-say, but man what a let down, especially after the other two hit it our of the park.

Those are some dang humanoid evos. If they turn out to be real, not only would I expect 2/3 to be new waifu/husbando mons, but I would also expect a lot of backlash about panding to the base….

Well, maybe not. I don't remember people complaing about Lopunny or Gardevoir's Mega evos, and those were as 'bout as pander-y as a Pokemon design could get.

I'm probably one of the few people who likes the Fire/Dark evo of Litten mostly because it looks like Ira Gamagoori but the owl archer is cool af too. The siren seal is also cool.

Chris_Flandre wrote:

Now that you mention the typing of the final evos, I have to wonder the typing found on the official pokemon page, which had Ground and Fighting in the source code. Maybe this hints at another potential leak which stated that the starters would have two final evolutions. And going by the source code Rowlet's second evolution will be Grass/Ground, Litten been Pure Fire type and Popplio having Water/Fighting. So maybe we will get another form for Litten, one that hopefully looks more original.

I'm not exactly sure where this source code stuff comes from or why it should have any bearing to anything, seeing how that could just be a site glitch

Tupolev Tu-22M Backfire wrote:

Guys

New pokes and evil team have been sorta revealed. Thoughts on this?
Here's the serebii article just to be sure

We are supposed to get more Sun/Moon news this Friday. With this set of CoroCoro leaks, I expect the new information to be just this. If we get more, that's fantastic but I'm only going to expect the official English names of the new Pokemon shown off, the new villain team, and the members of said team.



Note: "Despite this being a leak, it's not officially confirmed yet."

"Yowashi is said to be called Wishawashi with the ability Schooling and Namakobushi is called Pyukumuku with the ability Innards out. There's also a new Pokémon called Morelull, a Grass/Fairy with Illuminate & Effect Spore and most importantly, Alola Form Raichu which is Electric/Psychic with the new Ability Surge Surfer."

EDIT:
Burumer/Plumeria:

Wishiwashi in action

Last edited Aug 10, 2016 at 05:42PM EDT

The new set of leaks are looking more and more real. Serebii is reporting them and as far as I'm aware, he doesn't report any leak that gets brought into discussion.

Wishiwashi gameplay webm

That's all I've seen so far. Derrick from GameXplain already uploaded a video discussing the leaked Pokemon Yunpol posted. I expect he'll get rid of that video and include an update with the new set of leaked information.

Tupolev Tu-22M Backfire wrote:

This is just in. Team Skull is the best team ever.

I really like how Team Skull caught their Pokemon using other Pokeballs variants than just the standard one. The Grunts with the Nest Ball, Plumeria with an Ultra Ball. I want to see a Master Ball under the possession of someone in Team Skull. Either a grunt wasted on a common Pokemon or Guzma captures the boxart legendary and we have to fight him with his newly caught legendary.

The leaks pretty much forced TPCI to release the trailer one day earlier. Here's the English version.

Verbose wrote:

So is anyone going to discuss Pyukumuku and its Ability?

Pyukumuku have a new Ability, Innards Out, which no other Pokémon has had before. When this Pokémon faints, Innards Out lets it dish out a final bit of damage to its opponent, equal to the amount of HP it had left before it received the final blow.

Enjoy your sweepers while you can.

It reminds me of Aftermath ability. It purely depends on how much HP will have Pyukumuku.

It just occured to me that only 1st gen pokemon seem to be getting Alola forms. Think it's just coincidence, or did Gamefreak really not consider any other generations of pokemon…?

Man, have I gushed about Team Skull yet?
First of:

+They have a cool battle theme(?)
+Their leitmotif sounds like rap, which is very unique in pokemon
+Guzma in general
+When they talk, they look like they are about to drop a sick rhyme
+Female grunt looks like Nonon
+Just the fact that they are named Team Skull
+ TEAM SKULL HAS A BONE TO PICK WITH YOU
+THEY SQUAT
+THEIR LEADER SQUATS DURING THE BATTLE
+Love the detail that they use different pokeballs
+During the battle grunts look like they are rapping
+That pose before the battle.
+Second part of the battle theme reminds me of Team Rocket battle theme

Simply put I love everything about them.

Last edited Aug 11, 2016 at 04:24PM EDT

Tupolev Tu-22M Backfire wrote:

It reminds me of Aftermath ability. It purely depends on how much HP will have Pyukumuku.

Based on the video, someone said they were anticipating it to have about 80 Base HP. A lot of sweepers aren't going to live through an EV-invested amount of damage based directly on a OHKO's total damage in HP from a Pokémon with a 80 Base HP stat.

But even if it doesn't have much HP, even Shuckle's HP would knock out a large chunk of health and perhaps enough for a priority move to finish the job.

Verbose wrote:

Based on the video, someone said they were anticipating it to have about 80 Base HP. A lot of sweepers aren't going to live through an EV-invested amount of damage based directly on a OHKO's total damage in HP from a Pokémon with a 80 Base HP stat.

But even if it doesn't have much HP, even Shuckle's HP would knock out a large chunk of health and perhaps enough for a priority move to finish the job.

Then you are using a spot on your team for a suicide "taking you with me" mon that can easily be dealt with via Toxic Stall, Entry Hazard Phazing, Gastro Acid, Fake out, anything with a Multi-hit move, Custab Explosion, Super-Fang, Will-o-wisp, a plethora of things really.

Once the game comes out, people with half a brain will know not to try to sweep it, at worst it causes the opponent to switch out and lose a boost, but I don't see this thing ever making a serious dent in the usage of sweepers, especially since team preview is a thing to ruin switch in suicide attacks, the worst it can do is ruin a guys Nuzlocke. If the Meta can survive Wobbuffet, which can do much worst and lock your mon in

Ryumaru Borike wrote:

Then you are using a spot on your team for a suicide "taking you with me" mon that can easily be dealt with via Toxic Stall, Entry Hazard Phazing, Gastro Acid, Fake out, anything with a Multi-hit move, Custab Explosion, Super-Fang, Will-o-wisp, a plethora of things really.

Once the game comes out, people with half a brain will know not to try to sweep it, at worst it causes the opponent to switch out and lose a boost, but I don't see this thing ever making a serious dent in the usage of sweepers, especially since team preview is a thing to ruin switch in suicide attacks, the worst it can do is ruin a guys Nuzlocke. If the Meta can survive Wobbuffet, which can do much worst and lock your mon in

Either that or you just run False Swipe if it's really that much of a threat.

EDIT: Shit, I doubleposted earlier. Pls no hate

Last edited Aug 11, 2016 at 06:26PM EDT

Ryumaru Borike wrote:

Then you are using a spot on your team for a suicide "taking you with me" mon that can easily be dealt with via Toxic Stall, Entry Hazard Phazing, Gastro Acid, Fake out, anything with a Multi-hit move, Custab Explosion, Super-Fang, Will-o-wisp, a plethora of things really.

Once the game comes out, people with half a brain will know not to try to sweep it, at worst it causes the opponent to switch out and lose a boost, but I don't see this thing ever making a serious dent in the usage of sweepers, especially since team preview is a thing to ruin switch in suicide attacks, the worst it can do is ruin a guys Nuzlocke. If the Meta can survive Wobbuffet, which can do much worst and lock your mon in

If what you say is all it does, then I still say that's enough.

First, I wouldn't assume that all it can do is be a sitting duck. It's almost certainly getting STAB Scald for burns. So if it forces a switch, you might be able to get decent damage and/or a Burn on what comes in next. It may even have stats and a moveset to simply attack.

Second, you may not send Pyukumuku out while your opponent is boosting so they have a chance to switch. You may send it out to stop that DD Dragonite as it uses Earthquake or Outrage. The opponent wouldn't have a chance to switch, and they would lose its sweeper while you would potentially still have yours.

And let's discuss having a pure sweep stopper.

Toxic, burns, and phazing take time and turns to work. It also assumes that Pyukumuku can't do anything while you're trying to stall it out. Switching in a Fire-type on a Water-type just to use Will-o-Wisp is bad juju. You're almost certainly walking it into some STAB water attack.

Show me a competitive user of Gastro Acid in singles, and I'll show you a user who probably doesn't win very often. At that point, you drop a move to merely set up a way to force the kamikaze (suicide is just simply fainting with no positive outside of a free switch) to switch. It likely ruins whatever Pokémon has it, and then you still have to get your sweeper in and boost it. On that boosting turn or the first move, Pyukumuku can switch back in with its ability intact. Then you're already attacking it or you're about to.

Fake Out is a weak move that wouldn't take out much HP. Besides, how many sweepers have Fake Out? You probably won't see it until you send out your sweeper anyway.

Custap Explosion isn't on a sweeper. Only a few Pokémon would use it, but a lot of trainers have a Ghost…

Super Fang also has limited availability. It's also ruined by any ghost.

The only real option that doesn't fear Pyukumuku would be something with Skill Link. And no one would ever harm Cinccino.

So Bullet Seed wouldn't work.

No, I'm not acknowledging any fighting bugs or clams.

No sweeper wants to be switched out, and most require heavy attacking and Speed investments making trying to boost twice difficult.

And there are always counters for any decent counter. Short of Mega Rayquaza, every Pokémon has a check. So if you're smart enough to make a plan work, the plan will work.

Of course, there are always going to be sweepers. But I think you'll see some use out of it.

@Verbose
I just did stat calculations using todays footage, and your 80 Base HP his way off.

When Minior KOed Pyukumuku, Innards out only did 19 damage. Pyuku was at between 15% and 20% health, and a ruler says 16-17% putting it's Base HP between 35-65., but likely 60. Fully invested, that's still not taking out bulkier mon.

First, I wouldn’t assume that all it can do is be a sitting duck. It’s almost certainly getting STAB Scald for burns. So if it forces a switch, you might be able to get decent damage and/or a Burn on what comes in next. It may even have stats and a moveset to simply attack.

Pokemon with Gimmick abilities tend to have low BST, especially when they are small, for balance, so I don't see this thing doing damage, and relying on 30% burn chance is bad strategy.

Second, you may not send Pyukumuku out while your opponent is boosting so they have a chance to switch. You may send it out to stop that DD Dragonite as it uses Earthquake or Outrage. The opponent wouldn’t have a chance to switch, and they would lose its sweeper while you would potentially still have yours.

Team Preview. No one is going to use Outrage when they know their opponent can switch into it.

Toxic, burns, and phazing take time and turns to work. It also assumes that Pyukumuku can’t do anything while you’re trying to stall it out. Switching in a Fire-type on a Water-type just to use Will-o-Wisp is bad juju. You’re almost certainly walking it into some STAB water attack.

Most WoWers are ghosts, and again, this thing is probably not going to be too strong. Toxic Stallers are built to last until Toxic kills it's opponent. through defending and healing while their opponent dies, if they switch out, you switch out or Toxic stall the new mon. Take Umbreon, which can toxic Pyuku, then rotate heal and protect. Unless Pyuku can run a better Toxic Stall, or hit with enough power to 2HKO a wall (unlikely) then there is nothing it can do but switch out.

Show me a competitive user of Gastro Acid in singles, and I’ll show you a user who probably doesn’t win very often. At that point, you drop a move to merely set up a way to force the kamikaze (suicide is just simply fainting with no positive outside of a free switch) to switch. It likely ruins whatever Pokémon has it, and then you still have to get your sweeper in and boost it. On that boosting turn or the first move, Pyukumuku can switch back in with its ability intact. Then you’re already attacking it or you’re about to.

Guess your right on GA

Fake Out is a weak move that wouldn’t take out much HP. Besides, how many sweepers have Fake Out? You probably won’t see it until you send out your sweeper anyway.

Don't underestimate Fake-out, it can take off 20-50% HP when on a strong mon.

Also, a ton of sweepers have Fake-out, it's almost omnipresent on any mon that has it, like Kangaskhan, Lopunny, Weavile, Medicham, Mienshao etc.

Super Fang also has limited availability. It’s also ruined by any ghost.

But it still exists and can be used to deal with it.

_The only real option that doesn’t fear Pyukumuku would be something with Skill Link. And no one would ever harm Cinccino.

So Bullet Seed wouldn’t work._

Rhyperior uses Rock Blast a lot, and I see a lot of Cloysters around.

Don't discount things because of limited use. That fact that there are many different ways to work around this ability means even if each method isn't widespread, the number of methods adds up to an easily countered ability.

Another thing I forgot to mention is simply 2HKOing it. Use a weak priority move or pursuit to lower it's HP before killing it, or use a bulky mon with a low Atk to resist it's attacks while doing only enough damage to bring it to low HP, then kill it. Or use a utility mon, really, anything other than a sweeper.

Pyukumuku might be dangerous but I'm seeing people here miss the point that the little evil guy can learn pain split. So no matter if the opponent has more HP than Pyukumuku, if he manages to use Pain Split after entry hazards or previous fights and faints, the opponent is going down with him most of the time.

Yeah I have a bad feeling everyone and their mom is gonna use Butthole-Face online even if it's HP is on the low side. I may even consider getting skill swap on my Slowbro just to fuck with them.

Last edited Aug 11, 2016 at 11:45PM EDT

A new trailer means there’s something new to talk about. I thoughts I would share my thoughts on the recently released trailer.

First off are the new Pokemon. Wishiwashi is an interesting case where we have a Pokémon that can change form by level. Most of the Pokémon that change form either do it through an item, a move, an amount of health loss, etc. Now, the actual level is never specified since Wishiwashi is shown doing it at level 50 in the English trailer. However, the Japanese trailer shows us the School form can be done as early as level 27. Probably not the exact level, I suspect it’s level 25.

Pyukumuku. It’s description on the Pokémon website is funny. The tourists don’t find it amusing, and there’s a part time job where people can throw them back at the sea, but once Pyukumuku finds a spot it likes, it will stay there and return to that spot if it is removed. I find the fist-shaped insides to be just as funny. I don’t want this thing to evolve. It’s perfect as is.

Morelull. Yay? The only thing that I got out of it was that apparently one of the leaks described Morelull. I guess it will likely have Poison and Sleep Powder and Stun Spore. What else is there to say about it?
Next the Alola forms. Alolan Meowth. All I’m expecting out of it is Team Rocket either trying to steal one belonging to the Alola Royal family (assuming they’re still around), or Meowth painting himself the color of his Alolan cousin. There’s probably going to be an Alola Persian so hopefully that one is impressive looking.

Alolan Marowak is next. As expected, it has fire typing thanks to the Fire Trial Captain owning a Marowak. The Ghost typing is something I didn’t see a lot of people talk about but it is another callback to the Ghost Marowak of Lavender Town.

Raichi is finally getting love from Gamefreak with an Alola form. The only Pokémon with the type combination of Electric/Psychic, Alolan Raichi gives off callbacks to the surfer Pikachu from the anime. It even has blue eyes just like the surfer Pikachu. The people’s reasoning why Raichu’s form change was because of sweet and fluffy pancakes, I actually want to see that as the actual reason. Make it so in Amie, Pokémon can eat pancakes in addition to the poké puffs. Once a Pikachu eats enough of the pancakes and evolves, it becomes Alolan Raichu.
Team Skull, the main event. Right off the bat, they're an improvement of Team Flare. The Team as a whole has more life to them. From the battles, they’re shown with different Pokéballs rather than the standard one. Maybe not everyone, but hopefully a majority of the trainers we fight use the many Pokéball variants. The Grunts referring to each other as A and B makes me think the fandom will headcanon what are all the individual grunt’s names are. Would be cool if every Grunt we fought has a name.

Plumeria is next and is so far, Team Skull’s sole Admin. What got my attention was her name. I wanted to see if I could find any meaning to it. For starters, she’s named after the flower of the same name. Her hair colors even match the color scheme of one the plumeria flower variants. As for the meaning behind the flower itself, Hawaii treats the flower as it representing everything positive, and if a woman wears one on her right ear, it means she’s single while the flower worn on the left ear means the woman is in a relationship. Not exactly getting that with Team Skull’s Plumeria.

IT’S YOUR MAN, GUZMA! The Big Boss of Team Skull. Like Plumeria, Guzma is named after the Guzmania flower (thank you Bulbapedia). People had said that Guzma’s line of “fellow rejects who could never become captains” was referring to both himself and Kukui. With that, the impression I’m getting with Guzma and Kukui’s relationship is similar to that of Lysandre and Sycamore. Hopefully, this relationship is better executed. There’s also the fact that there’s four main islands and one island already has four trial captains revealed. I’m thinking each island is going to have four trial captains and one kahuna. That gives 16 out of 18 types.

Gamefreak’s track record of no Dark type gym makes me think Guzma will represent dark type and the remaining type is either going to Plumeria or Kukui. There’s also Lillie to take into account. She’s named after the lily flower, and it’s toxic but only to cats. Lillie could end up being a toxic character overall hiding behind a cute and innocent facade. That’s just my theory. She’s playing an important role in the story and that’s all we got on her.

That’s it for now. The sandcastle Pokémon was revealed in Corocoro but because that wasn’t revealed in this recent trailer, I didn’t bother talking about it. Hopefully we get more news by the end of the month and maybe we’ll finally get the starter Pokémon’s middle evolutions.

Iamslow wrote:

Yeah I have a bad feeling everyone and their mom is gonna use Butthole-Face online even if it's HP is on the low side. I may even consider getting skill swap on my Slowbro just to fuck with them.

It's gonna be another Rocky-Helmet-Ferrothorn/F.E.A.R. situation for sure. Everyone's gonna use it for for the cheese-KO gimmick potential until it stops working and isn't fun anymore. It'll be entertaining the first few times, but I think the hype will fade after awhile once people get a grip on how to deal with it.

Because this is the Pkmn general thread, i'll ask here.

I think i should watch the XY series, i've seen some footage of the league battles, very intense fights and good animation, and i should catch up. Where to start, how much filler episodes are there and what are they so i can skip them?

So what exactly is Shell Trap supposed to do? It's obviously not an entry hazard, since the trailer went out of its way to show Torkoal spinning it to no effect. Maybe it's some sort of manually-activated Future Sight that you have to set up before using?

Website says { With this move, the Pokémon can set a trap at the beginning of the turn, and if Turtonator is hit by an opponent’s physical attack during that turn, Shell Trap triggers an explosion that will deal much greater damage to the opponent. }

It looks like a mata mata, so I want one.

Snickerway wrote:

So what exactly is Shell Trap supposed to do? It's obviously not an entry hazard, since the trailer went out of its way to show Torkoal spinning it to no effect. Maybe it's some sort of manually-activated Future Sight that you have to set up before using?

The last paragraph explains Shell Trap here

Snickerway wrote:

So what exactly is Shell Trap supposed to do? It's obviously not an entry hazard, since the trailer went out of its way to show Torkoal spinning it to no effect. Maybe it's some sort of manually-activated Future Sight that you have to set up before using?

Serebii has it as a powerful attack that only happens when hit. Think of it like reverse Focus Punch.

So…to talk about ash for a moment…I don't know why, but this one hurt a lot more then the last few times. Maybe cause it was so close. IDK.

Tupolev Tu-22M Backfire wrote:

New poke revealed lads

I guess Mawile has a new backwards-facing friend now?

Last edited Aug 18, 2016 at 05:37PM EDT

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Bewear's pre-evolution is called Stufful. It has a tag. Ah, so cute!

The sandcastles are called Sandygast and Palossand. They have the new ability of Water Compaction, which sharply raises Defence when hit by a Water-type move. Interesting, take an SE attack to proc the ability …

The new crab revealed at Worlds is Crabrawler. It's not Water-type, but apparently may have its basis in a crab that doesn't go in water anyway. Worlds footage showed it against popular competitive stuff. Implying it will be strong?

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