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□ Anonymous 08/29/14(Fn)16 40 43 No 2605591 15 File: funny maymay.png (239 KB, 712x457) 22sasmimosam Game Journalist here Iwork for a major site, not saying which one sme my silence on all of this is obvious even to my co-workers. Ird make it way to。obnous who I was. To put it bluntly: you're winning. Advertisers have contacted our site, and I know they've contacted others, and they're f------ p-----. This s--- has gone on longer than anyone has expected it to, and its beginning to affect the brands of people associated with ours and other sites They want to stop And the bosses of these stes are scared, adblock has already cut deep into the money our ste makes, and know rs sling hard into others This has translated in the minds of most of my 'associates' as 'make them stop no matter whaf, hence all these f--- gamer articles. They're trying to push as hard as they can in hopes everyone backs down. The most important thing to do now is not to back down. They're shootng themselves in the foot Save any screencaps of anything crazy anyone says, and just repost it forever. Spread it around Get it onto social media Spread adblock. Spread advertiser contact. The single most effective thing you can do is contact advertisers. Even 10 letters can get them to call us I sure as f--- don't care what happens to us; I finish getting my second degree next year and Im out anyway. Let it bum Also, f--- the escapist
□ Anonymous 08/29/14(Fn)16 40 43 No 2605591 15 File: funny maymay.png (239 KB, 712x457) 22sasmimosam Game Journalist here Iwork for a major site, not saying which one sme my silence on all of this is obvious even to my co-workers. Ird make it way to。obnous who I was. To put it bluntly: you're winning. Advertisers have contacted our site, and I know they've contacted others, and they're f------ p-----. This s--- has gone on longer than anyone has expected it to, and its beginning to affect the brands of people associated with ours and other sites They want to stop And the bosses of these stes are scared, adblock has already cut deep into the money our ste makes, and know rs sling hard into others This has translated in the minds of most of my 'associates' as 'make them stop no matter whaf, hence all these f--- gamer articles. They're trying to push as hard as they can in hopes everyone backs down. The most important thing to do now is not to back down. They're shootng themselves in the foot Save any screencaps of anything crazy anyone says, and just repost it forever. Spread it around Get it onto social media Spread adblock. Spread advertiser contact. The single most effective thing you can do is contact advertisers. Even 10 letters can get them to call us I sure as f--- don't care what happens to us; I finish getting my second degree next year and Im out anyway. Let it bum Also, f--- the escapist

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Abuse Call Out About Maya Felix Kramer, aka legobutts, Zoe Quinn's PR person

IT MESSAGE compose sent NOTE: The black bars aren't relevant to anything going on re: ZQ and Maya. They're just personal identification information. sent 1 day ago chupacabrazier I recently saw your post in Qrios's thread regarding your experience with some of the PR reps close to Zoe. I was If you would feel comfortable t of ZQ's PR rep If you feel comfort able talking about MFK, I'd appreciate it. If not, no worries t 1 day ago Sure, I wouldn't mind. Though I hesitate to reveal my identity obviously based on the backlash. I'm not woied about some sort of reputation to uphold, just cautious. I guess I will if it made some important progress, but ideally I have nothing to lose or gain from this, so I guess you could say I'm relatively objective. I'm just a chick who loves gaming and despises this whole mess- from both sides. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have Ill preface by saying the last I worked with her was inbefore she was heavily involved as an SJW, didn't identify as queer, or was some form of a dev PR rep. The only reason I'm aware of these things at this point is because of reading gaming sites and then researching this whole corruption 'crisis She may have changed to some degree, but I know that she's highly manipulative and a fantastic personality/ social chameleon which is deeply rooted in who she is think. Again, trying to be objective). And I would hate for her to perpetuate any unethical behaviour based on her particular set of skills. № Taken' quote intended Haha But nipulation going like that happening-getting my ideas stolen to the point where anything I work for and want to slowly implement d for tell me ameleon? Were there any things in particular that stuck out to you, like something unethical they did? Are they the kind of person who would steal an idea from someone and claim it for their own? But yeah, thank you so much if you could answer any of these. This saves me a lot of hardship and worry. long haha. I drank a lot if coffee and have an insane amount of free time at work. Also I dont know fair a ut leaving anything out . Il bascally just st end what you feel about it. Firstly I1 ask what hat want Anyhow, I worked with maya fromWhen I first met her she was friendly and warm Actually beyond that- almost hyper happy and very fun. befriend, I could see us becoming pals because of one shared interest: video games. At first they thought I was so great and told me and others so. We worked in a environment. We'd talk about our families, our love life, hard times, good times, games, religion, and everything in They had a particular about They mentionedwas a narcissist and lied chronically and that they were glad they were not (I feel terrible mentioning this but I'm doing so only because I think they have a lot of those traits... Actually including borderline personality disorder). So I got to know them very well, or so I thought They started to invite me to things like PAX, to come over and game, and go to parties. In doing so, their friends wanted to hang out with me too, with one of them being interested in me romantically. This didn't sit well with maya, and though I assured them that as their friend and coworker I wouldn't cross any line that made thenm uncomfortable. Bros before hos and what not. I consider myself fiercely loyal and a chicks chick. I told them this. Still, noticed their behaviour was changing towards me, but I thought maybe they just have a mean sense of humour. Our boss was very also starting to get close with me. We'd go for lunch and things here and there. It was becoming obvlous that I was very well-iked with our boss, and this didn't sit well with maya. Maya was not just the favourite with our boss at our shop, they were also paid quite a bit more, took trips with our boss, and had more privileges than our manager even did. This didnt bug me at all- I was just enjoying the cheerful work environment. Anyhow, as it was becoming more and lore obvious our boss liked me a lot, our boss gave me a work project for the store that was all mine, and that other employees were going to help me with. It's success was going to be a direct reflection on me. Anyway, maya brutally sabotaged it. Made me look completely incapable, and very very stupid. Maya set it up so that I would fail, so they could swoop in and rescue the whole thing and 'save the day'. After all this building my trust and getting to know me wel, I realized this was just to spot my weaknesses and areas they So they did. Constantly. It didn't stop with work sabotage, but theyd lie about things I did wrong behind my back so they could make fun of me to my boss ( at this point my boss thought I was an idiot thanks to the handy work of maya). Theyd also lie about things I said, or how I felt about people. At one point they told me that one of their guy ay away from him because he's not interested ( this is one of the romantically at me briefly, before maya convinced him I was a bunch of terrible things. Later I found out this guy had turned them down romantically and it didn't sit well with maya. I can sympathize the bitter sentiments towards the situation, but I did nothing wrong. I had already told maya I wasnt going to do anything that didn't sit well with them... Plus I wasn't even interested in this guy) ntastic job of turning other coworkers on me, including my own boss. Soon work became unpleasant But by this point I was dating someone, had a set of cool friends, and life was great. Well, maya sure worked hard to make my life miserable. In fact, they bullied me pretty hard at work, even to the point where I cried a couple times. Then they would try to comfort me, and as soon as I stopped, they'd act like i was crazy and too sensitive and that they Maya also would make comments about how guys would have a crush on them because they were a'cool gamer girl (this was pre gender neutral days) and that it was so easy for them to get them to do what they want There were a few acquaintances that were brutally hurt by them because of this. Out of all of this mess this was the one thing that made me very angry. Maya could bully me til the cows come home but I have confidence and no mean manipulative girl was going to bring me down, especially because they didn't like that I was also a gamer girl and that I was a threat' I CRINGE typing that because it sounds so self-gratifying. This unfortunately was the actual situation. This isn't some petty attitude I adhere to) Maya also made comments about how they only liked having male friends and that they can't stand woman. At one point they commented that they didn't want to go to a stagette and wanted to go to the bachelor party because they despised woman. And I can actually quote because this disturbed me they said I hate woman. chuckles... I'm such a misogynist". They said this to me... girl. There were a lot of other comments made along these lines. I have old coworkers that can confirm (in fact can confirm this whole e made me angry they But no matter how much say this without sounding like a jerk, but I can't help the my highschool grad dress becauseI s very good to them. Hell, I gave them ed them to feel g e day this about you and your I've also written you an epic novel... My job offers me a lot of sitting and internet time haha. Anyw go on and on about petty little things like that, but a far as whether maya would steal your ideas, truth is I do not know. It depends on the context. They may invite you into their life and introduce you to many many cool people which I would so HOPE they would do. But b not a co-idea betw that they would be better than that. My experlence is my own, so there is a chance they'd be bloody fantastic t But DEAR GOD DO NOT LET HER FIND OUT THERE speculative, Im and that their viaw is correct. Maya is very vindictive and is very good at secretly turning others on you. I think their morality is lost in this area. Very lost. I recormmend extreme caution. tive, obviously I am not because of my u d honesty ne credibility o consider. However, may elpful if it helps her bottom line. No clue what that is. But I know they will say or do whatever Ma hold grudge against them, becau they have unresolved issues that may never be recognized. I wante lp them when thing makes me look like a pathetc jerk. But again, I'm not convinced of this. What is not fine is hurting other people who dont have the tools to cope, or other people's CAREERS. Like holy crap have some heart person! Regardless of how you feel about other women or a group ike TFYC, slandering a group then acting like its because a mass of people against them is not o o their desks being forced o provide free ideas, then they would be free to leave at any time, and don't idea opeoplewh abotage individual (me and others I know) because we are "competition" or a threat", I imagine that experience could call out the unethical pattens of anyone trying to do so. Hope this helps, and Im sorry if this is discouraging. I wish I could help. There is always a chance she had a life e hurting o Itering experience that forced her to make some big life changes. When I knew her she was straight and identified s female... Although she did refer to herself as a boy too so who knows. I would feel bad if they had become am entirely different person and that I'm now as bad as them by hurting them by offering my experience. That said, I f you do end up working with maya, I would prefer if you didn't share this with them... Although they'd just act like who can c this was all a big I can think assure you Im e end of the day I just dont want to see other gamers/devs hurt, because I have nothing to Gain or lose. Ugh enough of this epic. Haha. Now to go back to work. Which is... Browsing reddit and watching Starcraft strategy of kittens soma I'm embarrassed how long this ended up. Oh well I like DETAILS. I guess start from the bottom up! Redacted Questions, just jumping to Glad I could help. I would definitely say proceed with extreme caution when engaging with maya. They even ended up screwing over our old boss in the kong run haha. No one escapes unscathed. And you have such a fantastic idea. It IS valuable. I'd almost want to say find someone ese in the SJW community or otherwise and implement ideas with them You can definitely see the opportunist ways with the "cuties killing video games" campaign. I'd almost say treat it like comic book plot: it's a secret serum, and share it with those that you know and trust, it gets in the wrong hands! maya about sure howw credible. Although an INCREDIBLE job with selling the importance of being open in the community and being 'all about the love', Like kudos to them. I genuinely mean that. Im really impressed how amazingly they comes off as warm and loving. My Prefer meny may
IT MESSAGE compose sent NOTE: The black bars aren't relevant to anything going on re: ZQ and Maya. They're just personal identification information. sent 1 day ago chupacabrazier I recently saw your post in Qrios's thread regarding your experience with some of the PR reps close to Zoe. I was If you would feel comfortable t of ZQ's PR rep If you feel comfort able talking about MFK, I'd appreciate it. If not, no worries t 1 day ago Sure, I wouldn't mind. Though I hesitate to reveal my identity obviously based on the backlash. I'm not woied about some sort of reputation to uphold, just cautious. I guess I will if it made some important progress, but ideally I have nothing to lose or gain from this, so I guess you could say I'm relatively objective. I'm just a chick who loves gaming and despises this whole mess- from both sides. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have Ill preface by saying the last I worked with her was inbefore she was heavily involved as an SJW, didn't identify as queer, or was some form of a dev PR rep. The only reason I'm aware of these things at this point is because of reading gaming sites and then researching this whole corruption 'crisis She may have changed to some degree, but I know that she's highly manipulative and a fantastic personality/ social chameleon which is deeply rooted in who she is think. Again, trying to be objective). And I would hate for her to perpetuate any unethical behaviour based on her particular set of skills. № Taken' quote intended Haha But nipulation going like that happening-getting my ideas stolen to the point where anything I work for and want to slowly implement d for tell me ameleon? Were there any things in particular that stuck out to you, like something unethical they did? Are they the kind of person who would steal an idea from someone and claim it for their own? But yeah, thank you so much if you could answer any of these. This saves me a lot of hardship and worry. long haha. I drank a lot if coffee and have an insane amount of free time at work. Also I dont know fair a ut leaving anything out . Il bascally just st end what you feel about it. Firstly I1 ask what hat want Anyhow, I worked with maya fromWhen I first met her she was friendly and warm Actually beyond that- almost hyper happy and very fun. befriend, I could see us becoming pals because of one shared interest: video games. At first they thought I was so great and told me and others so. We worked in a environment. We'd talk about our families, our love life, hard times, good times, games, religion, and everything in They had a particular about They mentionedwas a narcissist and lied chronically and that they were glad they were not (I feel terrible mentioning this but I'm doing so only because I think they have a lot of those traits... Actually including borderline personality disorder). So I got to know them very well, or so I thought They started to invite me to things like PAX, to come over and game, and go to parties. In doing so, their friends wanted to hang out with me too, with one of them being interested in me romantically. This didn't sit well with maya, and though I assured them that as their friend and coworker I wouldn't cross any line that made thenm uncomfortable. Bros before hos and what not. I consider myself fiercely loyal and a chicks chick. I told them this. Still, noticed their behaviour was changing towards me, but I thought maybe they just have a mean sense of humour. Our boss was very also starting to get close with me. We'd go for lunch and things here and there. It was becoming obvlous that I was very well-iked with our boss, and this didn't sit well with maya. Maya was not just the favourite with our boss at our shop, they were also paid quite a bit more, took trips with our boss, and had more privileges than our manager even did. This didnt bug me at all- I was just enjoying the cheerful work environment. Anyhow, as it was becoming more and lore obvious our boss liked me a lot, our boss gave me a work project for the store that was all mine, and that other employees were going to help me with. It's success was going to be a direct reflection on me. Anyway, maya brutally sabotaged it. Made me look completely incapable, and very very stupid. Maya set it up so that I would fail, so they could swoop in and rescue the whole thing and 'save the day'. After all this building my trust and getting to know me wel, I realized this was just to spot my weaknesses and areas they So they did. Constantly. It didn't stop with work sabotage, but theyd lie about things I did wrong behind my back so they could make fun of me to my boss ( at this point my boss thought I was an idiot thanks to the handy work of maya). Theyd also lie about things I said, or how I felt about people. At one point they told me that one of their guy ay away from him because he's not interested ( this is one of the romantically at me briefly, before maya convinced him I was a bunch of terrible things. Later I found out this guy had turned them down romantically and it didn't sit well with maya. I can sympathize the bitter sentiments towards the situation, but I did nothing wrong. I had already told maya I wasnt going to do anything that didn't sit well with them... Plus I wasn't even interested in this guy) ntastic job of turning other coworkers on me, including my own boss. Soon work became unpleasant But by this point I was dating someone, had a set of cool friends, and life was great. Well, maya sure worked hard to make my life miserable. In fact, they bullied me pretty hard at work, even to the point where I cried a couple times. Then they would try to comfort me, and as soon as I stopped, they'd act like i was crazy and too sensitive and that they Maya also would make comments about how guys would have a crush on them because they were a'cool gamer girl (this was pre gender neutral days) and that it was so easy for them to get them to do what they want There were a few acquaintances that were brutally hurt by them because of this. Out of all of this mess this was the one thing that made me very angry. Maya could bully me til the cows come home but I have confidence and no mean manipulative girl was going to bring me down, especially because they didn't like that I was also a gamer girl and that I was a threat' I CRINGE typing that because it sounds so self-gratifying. This unfortunately was the actual situation. This isn't some petty attitude I adhere to) Maya also made comments about how they only liked having male friends and that they can't stand woman. At one point they commented that they didn't want to go to a stagette and wanted to go to the bachelor party because they despised woman. And I can actually quote because this disturbed me they said I hate woman. chuckles... I'm such a misogynist". They said this to me... girl. There were a lot of other comments made along these lines. I have old coworkers that can confirm (in fact can confirm this whole e made me angry they But no matter how much say this without sounding like a jerk, but I can't help the my highschool grad dress becauseI s very good to them. Hell, I gave them ed them to feel g e day this about you and your I've also written you an epic novel... My job offers me a lot of sitting and internet time haha. Anyw go on and on about petty little things like that, but a far as whether maya would steal your ideas, truth is I do not know. It depends on the context. They may invite you into their life and introduce you to many many cool people which I would so HOPE they would do. But b not a co-idea betw that they would be better than that. My experlence is my own, so there is a chance they'd be bloody fantastic t But DEAR GOD DO NOT LET HER FIND OUT THERE speculative, Im and that their viaw is correct. Maya is very vindictive and is very good at secretly turning others on you. I think their morality is lost in this area. Very lost. I recormmend extreme caution. tive, obviously I am not because of my u d honesty ne credibility o consider. However, may elpful if it helps her bottom line. No clue what that is. But I know they will say or do whatever Ma hold grudge against them, becau they have unresolved issues that may never be recognized. I wante lp them when thing makes me look like a pathetc jerk. But again, I'm not convinced of this. What is not fine is hurting other people who dont have the tools to cope, or other people's CAREERS. Like holy crap have some heart person! Regardless of how you feel about other women or a group ike TFYC, slandering a group then acting like its because a mass of people against them is not o o their desks being forced o provide free ideas, then they would be free to leave at any time, and don't idea opeoplewh abotage individual (me and others I know) because we are "competition" or a threat", I imagine that experience could call out the unethical pattens of anyone trying to do so. Hope this helps, and Im sorry if this is discouraging. I wish I could help. There is always a chance she had a life e hurting o Itering experience that forced her to make some big life changes. When I knew her she was straight and identified s female... Although she did refer to herself as a boy too so who knows. I would feel bad if they had become am entirely different person and that I'm now as bad as them by hurting them by offering my experience. That said, I f you do end up working with maya, I would prefer if you didn't share this with them... Although they'd just act like who can c this was all a big I can think assure you Im e end of the day I just dont want to see other gamers/devs hurt, because I have nothing to Gain or lose. Ugh enough of this epic. Haha. Now to go back to work. Which is... Browsing reddit and watching Starcraft strategy of kittens soma I'm embarrassed how long this ended up. Oh well I like DETAILS. I guess start from the bottom up! Redacted Questions, just jumping to Glad I could help. I would definitely say proceed with extreme caution when engaging with maya. They even ended up screwing over our old boss in the kong run haha. No one escapes unscathed. And you have such a fantastic idea. It IS valuable. I'd almost want to say find someone ese in the SJW community or otherwise and implement ideas with them You can definitely see the opportunist ways with the "cuties killing video games" campaign. I'd almost say treat it like comic book plot: it's a secret serum, and share it with those that you know and trust, it gets in the wrong hands! maya about sure howw credible. Although an INCREDIBLE job with selling the importance of being open in the community and being 'all about the love', Like kudos to them. I genuinely mean that. Im really impressed how amazingly they comes off as warm and loving. My Prefer meny may

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PSA: Potential PA stunt. Be safe. Not sorry

□ Anonymous 08/29/14(Fri)17:40:20 No.26052 1806 Ξ >-260522405 >>260522584 >>260522616 >>260522763 >>260522803 >>260522995 >>260523120 >>260523251 >>260523373 >>260523437>>260523505 1368017584103 jpg (137 KB, 520x500) google igdb Guys, I can't disclose who I am, but Zoe has a gameplan for PAX She has some friends who have agreed to wear Five Guys shirts to PAX. They're going to come up to her and she's going to run out of PAX, go to her hotel room, and start telling Twitter how she's being publicly harassed If you're going to record what's going on watch out for this. Make sure it's obvious that her friends are NOT with you. She's going to take anything that can even be misconstrued even a LITTLE bit as harassment. So don't even follow cameras on her. She will claim that the stress made her break and will be responsible for her overreacting if called out on it. Worried laughter Be. F------. Careful
□ Anonymous 08/29/14(Fri)17:40:20 No.26052 1806 Ξ >-260522405 >>260522584 >>260522616 >>260522763 >>260522803 >>260522995 >>260523120 >>260523251 >>260523373 >>260523437>>260523505 1368017584103 jpg (137 KB, 520x500) google igdb Guys, I can't disclose who I am, but Zoe has a gameplan for PAX She has some friends who have agreed to wear Five Guys shirts to PAX. They're going to come up to her and she's going to run out of PAX, go to her hotel room, and start telling Twitter how she's being publicly harassed If you're going to record what's going on watch out for this. Make sure it's obvious that her friends are NOT with you. She's going to take anything that can even be misconstrued even a LITTLE bit as harassment. So don't even follow cameras on her. She will claim that the stress made her break and will be responsible for her overreacting if called out on it. Worried laughter Be. F------. Careful

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Retweeted by Christina H. Sommers mac @macdatmurphy 7h @CHSommers it's like the same people who mocked them in grade school followed them to the gaming realm and criticized them there, too 40 ★43 View conversation Sommers h Most gamers are not political. They have no desire to hurt anyone.They just love their games. So don't confuse them with vicious trolls. 203 ★169 Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers 7h Being evil not unique to men. There r sociopathic wormen who desiroy lives too.Neither sex should be stigmatized based on crimes of extreme. 56 ★47
Retweeted by Christina H. Sommers mac @macdatmurphy 7h @CHSommers it's like the same people who mocked them in grade school followed them to the gaming realm and criticized them there, too 40 ★43 View conversation Sommers h Most gamers are not political. They have no desire to hurt anyone.They just love their games. So don't confuse them with vicious trolls. 203 ★169 Christina H. Sommers @CHSommers 7h Being evil not unique to men. There r sociopathic wormen who desiroy lives too.Neither sex should be stigmatized based on crimes of extreme. 56 ★47

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The Cathedral of Misogyny!! *cue lightning fx*


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This is their idea of Derailment... ugh!

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Oh, the irony...

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Double Standards, Destructoid?

Holly Hell @winnersusedrugs 2h In fact, none of you ever stuck up for me. Even though you knew I was right. Even though l always had your back. Holly Hell @winnersusedrugs 2h Hell. There are Dtoid employees leaping g to defend Zoe who never once stuck up for me. F---. You. All of you Holly Hell @winnersusedrugs 2h @fiddlecub too bad? View conversation Holly Hell @winnersusedrugs 2h @fiddlecub View conversation Holly Hell @winnersusedrugs 2h pokes head out of shell" oh is it ok to condemn sexism now? Sexism.. ...is bad わ t37 *12 Holly Hell @winnersusedrugs 2h mean lol you wanna talk censorship? Let's talk about my body of work being erased わ 다 11
Holly Hell @winnersusedrugs 2h In fact, none of you ever stuck up for me. Even though you knew I was right. Even though l always had your back. Holly Hell @winnersusedrugs 2h Hell. There are Dtoid employees leaping g to defend Zoe who never once stuck up for me. F---. You. All of you Holly Hell @winnersusedrugs 2h @fiddlecub too bad? View conversation Holly Hell @winnersusedrugs 2h @fiddlecub View conversation Holly Hell @winnersusedrugs 2h pokes head out of shell" oh is it ok to condemn sexism now? Sexism.. ...is bad わ t37 *12 Holly Hell @winnersusedrugs 2h mean lol you wanna talk censorship? Let's talk about my body of work being erased わ 다 11

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Jim Sterling JimSterling-6h The Sorting Hat has put me in House SJW わ 72 ★151 Jim Sterling JimSterling-6h Your games melt after 100 episodes of JQ. RT @NielslvarD: @JimSterling i have not experienced this ruining of my hobby just yet. わt3 5 ★28 ..。 Jim Sterling JimSterling-6h Apparenly Jimquistion "ruins your hobby" so uh, sorry aboui the games I've personally ruined, like Earth: Year 2066. わt336 ★123 Jim Sterling JimSterling-6h Oh I made it into a NEW list of "SJW game journalisis" ihai you aldd? Good Avoid me, you silly people. I crave your avoidance わ2.46 *144
Jim Sterling JimSterling-6h The Sorting Hat has put me in House SJW わ 72 ★151 Jim Sterling JimSterling-6h Your games melt after 100 episodes of JQ. RT @NielslvarD: @JimSterling i have not experienced this ruining of my hobby just yet. わt3 5 ★28 ..。 Jim Sterling JimSterling-6h Apparenly Jimquistion "ruins your hobby" so uh, sorry aboui the games I've personally ruined, like Earth: Year 2066. わt336 ★123 Jim Sterling JimSterling-6h Oh I made it into a NEW list of "SJW game journalisis" ihai you aldd? Good Avoid me, you silly people. I crave your avoidance わ2.46 *144

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A Game Developer's Testimonial

Anonymous 08/29/14(Fri)05:46:43 No.260356349 Another dev reporting in Can confirm gamedevs are scared of SJW censorship Lots of us indies hate the SJW s--- (and make games other than artsy non-games or pixelated platformers) I was even afraid to talk about it with my two other devs on our own project privately. We were silent as f--- amongst ourselves just watching this. I finally broke and emailed them privately and made my stance known (I don't want to work with them if they support this SJW censorship). Turns out we were all secretly very against the SJW nonsense, and we're all from different countries, so support is international Games made by folks that are openly anti-SJW are not covered by the press. We're scared to speak out We're making a list of places that are against this coverup crap and will only give them early access to our new games. Also looking into other devs who seem like they may be against this crap, but it's dangerous because if they're SJW they'll rat us out to their friends. We know this happens since we get messages sometimes from SJW devs who think we're SJWs talking about how some other dev must be misogynist over some trivial s--- or post, and not to help promote their game It's disgusting Games are being censored. Dont stop /v/. We cant make it to PAX, but we stopped going anyway because they went hardcore SJW ailydot.com/gaming/penny-arcade-expo-diversity-lounge-contr Screw GDC for giving Anita an award amasutra.com/iew/neWS 0447/Anita SarkeesianRiot cofounders win Non-SJW devs really can't speak out and still get noticed in press. Without going to the rigged popularity contests game journalism is the only source of media left (besides LPs or crowdfunding as a marketing tool), or shilling on N/ and reddit, etc. (which we don't agree with). There needs to be better game journalism, impartial, open to all not just the clique who go to IGF (where Fez won twice and shouldn't have been eligible).
Anonymous 08/29/14(Fri)05:46:43 No.260356349 Another dev reporting in Can confirm gamedevs are scared of SJW censorship Lots of us indies hate the SJW s--- (and make games other than artsy non-games or pixelated platformers) I was even afraid to talk about it with my two other devs on our own project privately. We were silent as f--- amongst ourselves just watching this. I finally broke and emailed them privately and made my stance known (I don't want to work with them if they support this SJW censorship). Turns out we were all secretly very against the SJW nonsense, and we're all from different countries, so support is international Games made by folks that are openly anti-SJW are not covered by the press. We're scared to speak out We're making a list of places that are against this coverup crap and will only give them early access to our new games. Also looking into other devs who seem like they may be against this crap, but it's dangerous because if they're SJW they'll rat us out to their friends. We know this happens since we get messages sometimes from SJW devs who think we're SJWs talking about how some other dev must be misogynist over some trivial s--- or post, and not to help promote their game It's disgusting Games are being censored. Dont stop /v/. We cant make it to PAX, but we stopped going anyway because they went hardcore SJW ailydot.com/gaming/penny-arcade-expo-diversity-lounge-contr Screw GDC for giving Anita an award amasutra.com/iew/neWS 0447/Anita SarkeesianRiot cofounders win Non-SJW devs really can't speak out and still get noticed in press. Without going to the rigged popularity contests game journalism is the only source of media left (besides LPs or crowdfunding as a marketing tool), or shilling on N/ and reddit, etc. (which we don't agree with). There needs to be better game journalism, impartial, open to all not just the clique who go to IGF (where Fez won twice and shouldn't have been eligible).

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Rami Ismail @tha_rami 14h It's nice to see the 'old guard' of gamers content with our medium being a boys-first club slowly becoming dinosaurs from an extinct age. Rami Ismail @tha_rami 14h The increasingly angry backlash is a awful symptom of something good, the growth pains of a medium leaving behind a toxic status quo Rami Ismail @tha_rami 14h They would rather destroy our medium than see it become something that isn't purely for or about them & they're slowly growing desperate. Rami Ismail @tha_rami 14h (Note: using 'old guard' as 'status quo' here, rather than referring to an age demographic) 2.6 ★11 Rami Ismail @tha_rami 14h We're moving forward, because if we weren't the backlash wouldn't be growing stronger. They'd ignore these efforts if they could Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h If an opposing party switches their concerns from 'let's not give them attention' to they're getting too much attention' that's good news, Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h If they feel the need to Kickstart a documentary in response to a highly succesful feminist documentary, that's a good sigrn 25 Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h If they have to organize their attacks from the last remaining bastions of a toxic culture, that means they're under siege, not us 30 Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h Let's keep that in mind: they're the ones that will eventually be left behind by our medium. We're moving forward & they're worried aboutit Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h Remember when the 'status quo' could just ignore cries for equality? Now they have to petition, fight, harass, attack & organize themselves. Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h We are NOT there yet. Equality for every race & gender & sexuality & age & nationality & so on is a distant goal. But we are moving forward Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h Let's remember that our efforts are working, and the cries of a disappearing status quo grow louder and more desperate to prove that. Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h So to everyone part of equality efforts, and to everyone supporting and signal boosting, thank you so much for all your efforts
Rami Ismail @tha_rami 14h It's nice to see the 'old guard' of gamers content with our medium being a boys-first club slowly becoming dinosaurs from an extinct age. Rami Ismail @tha_rami 14h The increasingly angry backlash is a awful symptom of something good, the growth pains of a medium leaving behind a toxic status quo Rami Ismail @tha_rami 14h They would rather destroy our medium than see it become something that isn't purely for or about them & they're slowly growing desperate. Rami Ismail @tha_rami 14h (Note: using 'old guard' as 'status quo' here, rather than referring to an age demographic) 2.6 ★11 Rami Ismail @tha_rami 14h We're moving forward, because if we weren't the backlash wouldn't be growing stronger. They'd ignore these efforts if they could Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h If an opposing party switches their concerns from 'let's not give them attention' to they're getting too much attention' that's good news, Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h If they feel the need to Kickstart a documentary in response to a highly succesful feminist documentary, that's a good sigrn 25 Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h If they have to organize their attacks from the last remaining bastions of a toxic culture, that means they're under siege, not us 30 Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h Let's keep that in mind: they're the ones that will eventually be left behind by our medium. We're moving forward & they're worried aboutit Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h Remember when the 'status quo' could just ignore cries for equality? Now they have to petition, fight, harass, attack & organize themselves. Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h We are NOT there yet. Equality for every race & gender & sexuality & age & nationality & so on is a distant goal. But we are moving forward Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h Let's remember that our efforts are working, and the cries of a disappearing status quo grow louder and more desperate to prove that. Rami Ismail @tha_rami 13h So to everyone part of equality efforts, and to everyone supporting and signal boosting, thank you so much for all your efforts

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Eron Confirms Another Zoe Acquaintance Testimonial

H thisuserisnotreal Gl 172 points 2 days ago" (last edited 2 days ago) I met Zoe about 2 1/2 years ago. I had a friend who wanted to date her, and he wanted my opinion of her. After spending some time getting to know her, she seemed really cool. She had big ideas and was extremely passionate. She even mirrored my opinions. You need to know that she's a chameleon. She's charming and can adapt to any environment. It's easy to trust her. This is all relevant to make you understand why people stand up for her. She makes everything she says seem genuine After I told my friend that she was cool and dateable and they started dating, things changed. Suddenly, she was using details from my life story, things that explain why I am who I am, in stories she was telling me. It was then I started to doubt the validity of other things she said (none of which I will share because that is not my place). As I started piecing together stories she told me over the time I knew her, things started not adding up. There were inconsistencies, and I started casually asking her about things when they didn't make sense with the narrative she had previously given This is when she started arguing the most minor things with me, which I assume was to try to discredit the questions I was asking. It also became obvious that she was trying to separate my friend from us (There were more people involved than just me, but I'm one of the only ones willing to risk this and deal with the fallout.) because she'd drag him into the arguments. Who's not going to side with their new S0? One day, I received an email asking what my problem with Zoe was. When I described the things she did, such as stealing bits of my identity (which I believe I just called lying and didn't get into details) and creating discord between us, my friend didn't see things my way. I even pointed out then that she is the type of feminist who uses feminism to get ahead and for hate. Instead of reading the words I used and the points I made, the response I received was only thatI hate her because she's a feminist. (FYI, I'm a feminist who knows that men are our allies and we need to work together.) I recognized the lying and manipulation pretty quickly (maybe 6-8 weeks in), so I don't have a mo compelling story. Ever since then, I've had to sit silently and watch her be lauded for her strong principles and social activism. Anyone I told about her behavior, even if she had screwed them in some way, excused it mostly out of fear of losing a contact or a friend who happened to be friends with her I don't care about her being punished or losing her status as a dev. It's not about that for me. It's about recognizing a hurtful person and that person learning and stopping it. I don't want people to harass her. I don't want people to harass her friends. I just want all the abusive behavior (from all parties) to end permalink source save save-RES report give gold reply hide child comments xciting or -1 qrios[S] 94 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) User confirmed. She knew Zoe. And I ha few things I want to comment on here Su ng m w is thing here. Zoe would do this exactly. Either mirror sentiments I'd expressed "I'm worried I care more about you about me" [in the green logs.] Or if I speculated as to whether I did something wrong, she would play that mmo W ma ely did wrong pretty quickly (maybe 6-8 weeks i xciting ng story lau nd social activism. An screwe me wa riend W ogi warning m w l eXIS User is cool Anywa rama urprise gu perma save save-RES parent report give gold reply
H thisuserisnotreal Gl 172 points 2 days ago" (last edited 2 days ago) I met Zoe about 2 1/2 years ago. I had a friend who wanted to date her, and he wanted my opinion of her. After spending some time getting to know her, she seemed really cool. She had big ideas and was extremely passionate. She even mirrored my opinions. You need to know that she's a chameleon. She's charming and can adapt to any environment. It's easy to trust her. This is all relevant to make you understand why people stand up for her. She makes everything she says seem genuine After I told my friend that she was cool and dateable and they started dating, things changed. Suddenly, she was using details from my life story, things that explain why I am who I am, in stories she was telling me. It was then I started to doubt the validity of other things she said (none of which I will share because that is not my place). As I started piecing together stories she told me over the time I knew her, things started not adding up. There were inconsistencies, and I started casually asking her about things when they didn't make sense with the narrative she had previously given This is when she started arguing the most minor things with me, which I assume was to try to discredit the questions I was asking. It also became obvious that she was trying to separate my friend from us (There were more people involved than just me, but I'm one of the only ones willing to risk this and deal with the fallout.) because she'd drag him into the arguments. Who's not going to side with their new S0? One day, I received an email asking what my problem with Zoe was. When I described the things she did, such as stealing bits of my identity (which I believe I just called lying and didn't get into details) and creating discord between us, my friend didn't see things my way. I even pointed out then that she is the type of feminist who uses feminism to get ahead and for hate. Instead of reading the words I used and the points I made, the response I received was only thatI hate her because she's a feminist. (FYI, I'm a feminist who knows that men are our allies and we need to work together.) I recognized the lying and manipulation pretty quickly (maybe 6-8 weeks in), so I don't have a mo compelling story. Ever since then, I've had to sit silently and watch her be lauded for her strong principles and social activism. Anyone I told about her behavior, even if she had screwed them in some way, excused it mostly out of fear of losing a contact or a friend who happened to be friends with her I don't care about her being punished or losing her status as a dev. It's not about that for me. It's about recognizing a hurtful person and that person learning and stopping it. I don't want people to harass her. I don't want people to harass her friends. I just want all the abusive behavior (from all parties) to end permalink source save save-RES report give gold reply hide child comments xciting or -1 qrios[S] 94 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) User confirmed. She knew Zoe. And I ha few things I want to comment on here Su ng m w is thing here. Zoe would do this exactly. Either mirror sentiments I'd expressed "I'm worried I care more about you about me" [in the green logs.] Or if I speculated as to whether I did something wrong, she would play that mmo W ma ely did wrong pretty quickly (maybe 6-8 weeks i xciting ng story lau nd social activism. An screwe me wa riend W ogi warning m w l eXIS User is cool Anywa rama urprise gu perma save save-RES parent report give gold reply

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Kotaku.

Yannick LeJacq and 357 others 24★ Calling the derision of Anita Sarkeesian rational debate is an insult to both her and the idea of debating ideas." Writing for The New Statesman, Ian Steadman gives a thorough and well-reasoned rebuttal of many of the most popular arguments raised against feminist critic Anita Sarkeesian ever since she started her Today 2:50pm 1★ t lately? Send it to us at our new feature, episodes right here.» 5★ run a segment here
Yannick LeJacq and 357 others 24★ Calling the derision of Anita Sarkeesian rational debate is an insult to both her and the idea of debating ideas." Writing for The New Statesman, Ian Steadman gives a thorough and well-reasoned rebuttal of many of the most popular arguments raised against feminist critic Anita Sarkeesian ever since she started her Today 2:50pm 1★ t lately? Send it to us at our new feature, episodes right here.» 5★ run a segment here

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QUINN! YOU HAVE NOWHERE TO RUN NOW!!

Zoë 'GRANOS' Quinn @TheQuinnspiracy 5h don't see how journalists supporting a patreon or paying for indie games is supposedly corrupt. Its not like they get dividends. Follow Steve Beynon @StevenBeynon @TheQuinnspiracy Because there's this thing in Journalism called "The Wall". You cannot be financially tied to what you cover. Reply Retweet FavoriteMore RETWEETS FAVORITES 1:39 PM- 26 Aug 2014 Zoe 'GRANOS' Quinn TheQuinnspiracy 5h StevenBeynor theyre blogger not journalisis And how is buying a game a legitimate financial tie? Jason Schreier @jasonschreier Follow @TheQuinnspiracy @StevenBeynon Kotaku is staffed by journalists. Not "bloggers." Reply ta Retweet ★ Favorite More 7:08 PM-26 Aug 2014
Zoë 'GRANOS' Quinn @TheQuinnspiracy 5h don't see how journalists supporting a patreon or paying for indie games is supposedly corrupt. Its not like they get dividends. Follow Steve Beynon @StevenBeynon @TheQuinnspiracy Because there's this thing in Journalism called "The Wall". You cannot be financially tied to what you cover. Reply Retweet FavoriteMore RETWEETS FAVORITES 1:39 PM- 26 Aug 2014 Zoe 'GRANOS' Quinn TheQuinnspiracy 5h StevenBeynor theyre blogger not journalisis And how is buying a game a legitimate financial tie? Jason Schreier @jasonschreier Follow @TheQuinnspiracy @StevenBeynon Kotaku is staffed by journalists. Not "bloggers." Reply ta Retweet ★ Favorite More 7:08 PM-26 Aug 2014

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incoming shitstorm quinnspiracy gotcha bitch woo!

Extremes I'm a nobody. I don't know how many tweets you get coming at you, especially now, I can only imagine how much you have to sort through. I'm just one voice, and sadly, I'm sure it will get drowned out by louder and more numerous voices. This is an issue that bothers me though, and it needs to be said. I just hope I don't get ignored and my message is heard. If not by you, Zoe, by someone Extremes. If you listen to the media, it seems to be all that exists anymore. You're either on one end of the spectrum or the other. There is no in between. You're either with us, or against us, and if you're against us, then you have all the traits we associate with the other side. There are no exceptions, no matter how you present yourself There are a lot of people upset about all this, and what it has uncovered. I think it's extremely juvenile to simply brush off anyone with criticism involved with this as "against women in gaming." While I'm positive there are some among us who feel that strongly about it, MANY of us do not feel that way. At the end of the day, we love games, regardless of where they come from or who made them. A lot of us understand the part women not only play in the current industry, but in the history of the entire culture Case in point, when The Fine Young Capitalists wanted to thank 4chan's N/ board for their donations to their project, they asked N/ for suggestions on their video series regarding women in gaming, the response was clear They wanted them to do videos on great females who work in the industry. N/ even supplied TFYC with a picture that's been passed around N/ for ages, of prominent women who have contributed significantly to the industry. I want to make that clear, this picture has been around for a long time, it wasn't created for the sole purpose of sending this to TFYC. When TFYC askedi, many users requested someone post that picture, as it's a perfect example of many of the women who work in the industry You can find that picture here:http://i.imgur.com/6Crriga.png" class-"linkifyplus >http://i.imgur.com/6Crriga.png Nl donated to TFYC not because of spite, or because of pity. I'm sure some anons did, because the extreme DOES exist, but the response was so strong because n/ believed in the message TFYC was trying to deliver They believed not enough women got into gaming because they were told they couldn't, and they wanted to prove that women CAN design and make great games. Many anons didn't even care about the message, but liked the games being presented and voted because they wanted to see the game get made This message again is very clear in the character N/ came together and designed for TFYC because of their donation level. Vivian James. "Let's just play already." It's a message that should resonates with what I'm trying to say. The majority of us, again ignoring the extremes, just love great games and will support those great games A lot of us are annoyed at those threatening your life. It's not helping our message, it's not helping our cause Your biggest defense is that you're being harassed you, doxed, insulted, and threatened. Instead of actually addressing the concerns, it becomes about you being attacked. I think I speak for a lot of us when I say that's despicable of those doing that to you. I know I don't speak for everyone, because again, those on the extreme ends of the spectrum DO exist, but they are not the majority of the people talking about this We're getting grouped with those people however, and anything we try to bring to light gets discredited, not by the merit of its claim, but by your automatic association with those who are actually doing you harm. I do not know if it's intentional or not, but it seems hypocritical to judge someone based on your assumption of them, rather tharn what they are actually trying to say I also want to make it very, VERY clear that the extremes are on BOTH ends of the spectrum. I have seen some absolutely disgusting things being said from people who support you. Everything you're allegedly going through, I have seen done to people in YOUR name. One in particular that stands out to me, is comparing anyone on this "side" to ISIS. That should sicken you And so, we come to this. The actual issue we have. As I've mentioned in my earlier tweets, which I am assuming you paid little attention to, we have been tired of the corruption rampant in the industry for some time. It's obvious what's going on, but rarely do we have evidence. We only see what's on the surface, and can only guess what's going on behind the scenes. Sometimes we get glimpses, but very rarely do we get anything concrete Then Eron comes along with his "manifesto." First thing I want to address is this, stop trying to simply write it off as a jilted ex-boyfriend. He provides CREDIBLE sources for his claims. i.e. directly from you, Zoe. He proves the chat logs are not doctored, but seeing how you're the one that wrote to him, you very well know this. People have been put under the bus with MUCH less evidence I want to stress this next part, as it is one of the more common deflections made. The fact that you slept with several individuals is NOT the issue. I can not stress this enough. What is important is who you slept with, and some will argue infidelity as it speaks to your character. They believe that you can not be trusted, and plays a large part as to why many people are so willing to believe you'd false-flag your doxs, and that you did them yourself. They believe that if you can be that manipulative to someone you claim you care about, how far are you willing to go to prove your point to people you don't even know. Having an active sexual life is one thing, cheating is something else all together, and will always paint someone in a different light to many people afterwards The infidelity, while an issue for some, is not the resounding problem though. The issue is journalistic integrity and just how close and familiar developers are getting with their journalists reporting on them. Most of us know Nathan Grayson never wrote a review for your game. While it's not clear the exact conditions of your relationship with Nathan at the time of the posted article concerning the failed Game Jam relationship, he did not make the ethical decision to report the relationship, and recuse himself from possible future situations r you two engaged in a sexual The fact that he did not do that bothers many. It seems to indicate that it's not instilled into journalists that it's the ethical thing to do. Many developers and journalists form close bonds, but when a journalist reports on something, we have no transparency of the connection and bond those two entities share. When a journalist gets close to a developer, that creates a conflict of interest as they may be more or sometimes even less favorable of the content the developer creates because of their connection they share. Whether or not they are more favorable or less critical, it is still a clear and present conflict of interest. It has manipulated their motivation, as they might expect more of them, or are more willing to let something slide, because of their bond. It does not matter if Nathan never reported on anything you've done since you had sexual encounters. He should have known what the ethical thing to do was, and he did not take that step At the time of me writing this, Kotaku has admitted they should be more transparent to this exact kind of thing Stephen Totilo has not only said they will make sure that articles will make sure to mention personal connections between the journalist and news source, but that any of their journalists aren't allowed to directly fund individual developers through Patreon. Why do you think this is? It's true, it wasn't JUST the Nathan Grayson stuff that brought it to this, but how can you continue to claim this is just about you as a woman, when we're already gotten Kotaku to admit they might have been wrong? And it all comes back to extremes. I hope someone took the time to read this and can see that I'm not a sexist pig sending r--- threats, but rather someone who is upset at something they are passionate about, and finally getting the concrete evidence needed to demand some change. If you see the constant threads on Ni, the overwhelming call is to NOT harass, as that will accomplish nothing. You're focusing just on the extremists, and I fully agree that what they are doing is juvenile and reprehensible. They are just the loudest though. That majority believe it or not, are right there with you thinking they are terrible people. But you need to stop grouping everyone who isn't in support of you into that category. I hope I reach out to even just one person, and at the end of this they understand that we're not all extremists
Extremes I'm a nobody. I don't know how many tweets you get coming at you, especially now, I can only imagine how much you have to sort through. I'm just one voice, and sadly, I'm sure it will get drowned out by louder and more numerous voices. This is an issue that bothers me though, and it needs to be said. I just hope I don't get ignored and my message is heard. If not by you, Zoe, by someone Extremes. If you listen to the media, it seems to be all that exists anymore. You're either on one end of the spectrum or the other. There is no in between. You're either with us, or against us, and if you're against us, then you have all the traits we associate with the other side. There are no exceptions, no matter how you present yourself There are a lot of people upset about all this, and what it has uncovered. I think it's extremely juvenile to simply brush off anyone with criticism involved with this as "against women in gaming." While I'm positive there are some among us who feel that strongly about it, MANY of us do not feel that way. At the end of the day, we love games, regardless of where they come from or who made them. A lot of us understand the part women not only play in the current industry, but in the history of the entire culture Case in point, when The Fine Young Capitalists wanted to thank 4chan's N/ board for their donations to their project, they asked N/ for suggestions on their video series regarding women in gaming, the response was clear They wanted them to do videos on great females who work in the industry. N/ even supplied TFYC with a picture that's been passed around N/ for ages, of prominent women who have contributed significantly to the industry. I want to make that clear, this picture has been around for a long time, it wasn't created for the sole purpose of sending this to TFYC. When TFYC askedi, many users requested someone post that picture, as it's a perfect example of many of the women who work in the industry You can find that picture here:http://i.imgur.com/6Crriga.png" class-"linkifyplus >http://i.imgur.com/6Crriga.png Nl donated to TFYC not because of spite, or because of pity. I'm sure some anons did, because the extreme DOES exist, but the response was so strong because n/ believed in the message TFYC was trying to deliver They believed not enough women got into gaming because they were told they couldn't, and they wanted to prove that women CAN design and make great games. Many anons didn't even care about the message, but liked the games being presented and voted because they wanted to see the game get made This message again is very clear in the character N/ came together and designed for TFYC because of their donation level. Vivian James. "Let's just play already." It's a message that should resonates with what I'm trying to say. The majority of us, again ignoring the extremes, just love great games and will support those great games A lot of us are annoyed at those threatening your life. It's not helping our message, it's not helping our cause Your biggest defense is that you're being harassed you, doxed, insulted, and threatened. Instead of actually addressing the concerns, it becomes about you being attacked. I think I speak for a lot of us when I say that's despicable of those doing that to you. I know I don't speak for everyone, because again, those on the extreme ends of the spectrum DO exist, but they are not the majority of the people talking about this We're getting grouped with those people however, and anything we try to bring to light gets discredited, not by the merit of its claim, but by your automatic association with those who are actually doing you harm. I do not know if it's intentional or not, but it seems hypocritical to judge someone based on your assumption of them, rather tharn what they are actually trying to say I also want to make it very, VERY clear that the extremes are on BOTH ends of the spectrum. I have seen some absolutely disgusting things being said from people who support you. Everything you're allegedly going through, I have seen done to people in YOUR name. One in particular that stands out to me, is comparing anyone on this "side" to ISIS. That should sicken you And so, we come to this. The actual issue we have. As I've mentioned in my earlier tweets, which I am assuming you paid little attention to, we have been tired of the corruption rampant in the industry for some time. It's obvious what's going on, but rarely do we have evidence. We only see what's on the surface, and can only guess what's going on behind the scenes. Sometimes we get glimpses, but very rarely do we get anything concrete Then Eron comes along with his "manifesto." First thing I want to address is this, stop trying to simply write it off as a jilted ex-boyfriend. He provides CREDIBLE sources for his claims. i.e. directly from you, Zoe. He proves the chat logs are not doctored, but seeing how you're the one that wrote to him, you very well know this. People have been put under the bus with MUCH less evidence I want to stress this next part, as it is one of the more common deflections made. The fact that you slept with several individuals is NOT the issue. I can not stress this enough. What is important is who you slept with, and some will argue infidelity as it speaks to your character. They believe that you can not be trusted, and plays a large part as to why many people are so willing to believe you'd false-flag your doxs, and that you did them yourself. They believe that if you can be that manipulative to someone you claim you care about, how far are you willing to go to prove your point to people you don't even know. Having an active sexual life is one thing, cheating is something else all together, and will always paint someone in a different light to many people afterwards The infidelity, while an issue for some, is not the resounding problem though. The issue is journalistic integrity and just how close and familiar developers are getting with their journalists reporting on them. Most of us know Nathan Grayson never wrote a review for your game. While it's not clear the exact conditions of your relationship with Nathan at the time of the posted article concerning the failed Game Jam relationship, he did not make the ethical decision to report the relationship, and recuse himself from possible future situations r you two engaged in a sexual The fact that he did not do that bothers many. It seems to indicate that it's not instilled into journalists that it's the ethical thing to do. Many developers and journalists form close bonds, but when a journalist reports on something, we have no transparency of the connection and bond those two entities share. When a journalist gets close to a developer, that creates a conflict of interest as they may be more or sometimes even less favorable of the content the developer creates because of their connection they share. Whether or not they are more favorable or less critical, it is still a clear and present conflict of interest. It has manipulated their motivation, as they might expect more of them, or are more willing to let something slide, because of their bond. It does not matter if Nathan never reported on anything you've done since you had sexual encounters. He should have known what the ethical thing to do was, and he did not take that step At the time of me writing this, Kotaku has admitted they should be more transparent to this exact kind of thing Stephen Totilo has not only said they will make sure that articles will make sure to mention personal connections between the journalist and news source, but that any of their journalists aren't allowed to directly fund individual developers through Patreon. Why do you think this is? It's true, it wasn't JUST the Nathan Grayson stuff that brought it to this, but how can you continue to claim this is just about you as a woman, when we're already gotten Kotaku to admit they might have been wrong? And it all comes back to extremes. I hope someone took the time to read this and can see that I'm not a sexist pig sending r--- threats, but rather someone who is upset at something they are passionate about, and finally getting the concrete evidence needed to demand some change. If you see the constant threads on Ni, the overwhelming call is to NOT harass, as that will accomplish nothing. You're focusing just on the extremists, and I fully agree that what they are doing is juvenile and reprehensible. They are just the loudest though. That majority believe it or not, are right there with you thinking they are terrible people. But you need to stop grouping everyone who isn't in support of you into that category. I hope I reach out to even just one person, and at the end of this they understand that we're not all extremists

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Nicole Morgan → Kingdo Goodbomber . 9 hours ago That's a bit pedantic. The demands of the audience influence the development of games. Different franchises and genres have different audiences, with some overlap. My likes as someone who plays Dragon Age for example does factor into the feedback they get, and does it's minuscule part to shape the product. The issue is that each individual is but a drop in the seas. I am actually pretty satisfied that some things I want in games do come to be. That does not mean I as a fan shape every detail of every game, which is what I think some angry fans of all stripes do not 'get Reply Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi . 10 hours ago Activists like Anita, for example. I already specified that most female gamers aren't a part of it. CeCe Azadi → Nicole Morgan , 10 hours ago haha in your experience. I wonder how many female gamers you actually know very well. Its also likely that knowing how simplistically you view this whole issue they just pat you on the head and talk about the adult subject when you aren't around. I know I would. Of all the gamers I know, and I've been gaming for twenty years or so, more than half are female and ALL of them are feminists and would like to see more female oriented interests exhibited in games. None of us think there's anything wrong with that because as I said, our money is just as green as the men. And in fact all the male gamers I know think gaming would only be enhanced by adding female issues to the games. Plenty of press about that too. In fact its prtty obvious that the feminist gamers outnumber the anti-feminist gamers. We just don't ahways bother talking with your kind. But the media agrees too are> Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi , 10 hours ago There's no problem with wanting to see more feminine interests exhibited in games. The controversy is that feminist activists want to see all games change to meet their criteria. Also FY, female oriented interests' is a pretty sexist thing to say Females are not homogeneous, we do not all share the same interests. Surely you realize this? Cece Azadi → Nicole Morgan 9 hours ago Geeziz, "female oriented" means "women only"- really? l can't with this simplistic thinking. Seriously Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi . 9 hours ago Female oriented means oriented to the interests of females as a collective group. That is how words work. I'm not sure where you get your definitions from. I can't with this Tumblr speak. Seriously Reply Cece Azadi → CeCe Azadi , 11 hours ago and frankly if you're a gamer, I am puzzled as to why it would even matter to you that you be taken seriously. Are you gaming? Are you playing? and levelling up? at least occasionally? Then great, you're a gamer and you're serous. you get the serious gamer cooky" prize If you want to be "taken seriously" play the f------ games and quit caring about what some whiney brat has to say about da wimminz Nicole Morgan CeCe Azadi 10 hours ago I do in fact like to converse with other gamers, and I don't like others having the false expectation that I will have an agenda. The worst thing about the feminists who are interfering with this industry is that they try to speak for all women, not just for themselves. That is why I feel it is important to speak out against women like Zoe who do wrong and then play victim, and women like Anita who think games should be easier so women can play them. There are people with an agenda and I do not Reply Cece Azadi → Nicole Morgan , 10 hours ago wow, you don't understand anything about what "the feminists" are doing or what they want. You just swallowed the b------- you've been fed huh? Scared the boys won't date you if you actually leam somethign about feminism? Surprise, the best men are feminists too. Nicole MorganCeCe Azad-10 hours ago Typical feminist tactic. You find out I'm against feminism so youu start attacking my femininity and ability to get laid... which is actually very sexist of you. lol The feminists want every game to meet unobtainable criteria. They complain about slut shaming, but then decry the existence of any character they deem slutty. They want stronger female characters, but then will complain a strong female character is just a 'man with t---'. They want to be taken seriously but complain controls are too difficult. They want there to be no more damsels in game stories, but then play the part of damsel the moment they get hate mail or downvotes. Yes, I know what feminists are about in regards to my hobbies. Outside of my hobbies I already have my rights, am already taken señously by men, and have been silenced by women more often than men in conversation. I've seen the sexism that feminists wield against men, and have seen how easily they will turn on fellow women for dissent, saying the same sexist s--- they'd blow a gasket over if a man were to say it. Thank you for llustrating my last point so well, btw. ) Reply CeCe Azadi → Nicole Morgan , 10 hours ago mmm yes yes. "pats you on the head okay hon. Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi , 10 hours ago There you go again, proving me right. Look at you trying to patronize and dismiss me the same way you complain that men have done to women. It's really ironic, you know, because I never have guys talk to me that way... always feminist women. You are what you hate Reply
Nicole Morgan → Kingdo Goodbomber . 9 hours ago That's a bit pedantic. The demands of the audience influence the development of games. Different franchises and genres have different audiences, with some overlap. My likes as someone who plays Dragon Age for example does factor into the feedback they get, and does it's minuscule part to shape the product. The issue is that each individual is but a drop in the seas. I am actually pretty satisfied that some things I want in games do come to be. That does not mean I as a fan shape every detail of every game, which is what I think some angry fans of all stripes do not 'get Reply Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi . 10 hours ago Activists like Anita, for example. I already specified that most female gamers aren't a part of it. CeCe Azadi → Nicole Morgan , 10 hours ago haha in your experience. I wonder how many female gamers you actually know very well. Its also likely that knowing how simplistically you view this whole issue they just pat you on the head and talk about the adult subject when you aren't around. I know I would. Of all the gamers I know, and I've been gaming for twenty years or so, more than half are female and ALL of them are feminists and would like to see more female oriented interests exhibited in games. None of us think there's anything wrong with that because as I said, our money is just as green as the men. And in fact all the male gamers I know think gaming would only be enhanced by adding female issues to the games. Plenty of press about that too. In fact its prtty obvious that the feminist gamers outnumber the anti-feminist gamers. We just don't ahways bother talking with your kind. But the media agrees too are> Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi , 10 hours ago There's no problem with wanting to see more feminine interests exhibited in games. The controversy is that feminist activists want to see all games change to meet their criteria. Also FY, female oriented interests' is a pretty sexist thing to say Females are not homogeneous, we do not all share the same interests. Surely you realize this? Cece Azadi → Nicole Morgan 9 hours ago Geeziz, "female oriented" means "women only"- really? l can't with this simplistic thinking. Seriously Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi . 9 hours ago Female oriented means oriented to the interests of females as a collective group. That is how words work. I'm not sure where you get your definitions from. I can't with this Tumblr speak. Seriously Reply Cece Azadi → CeCe Azadi , 11 hours ago and frankly if you're a gamer, I am puzzled as to why it would even matter to you that you be taken seriously. Are you gaming? Are you playing? and levelling up? at least occasionally? Then great, you're a gamer and you're serous. you get the serious gamer cooky" prize If you want to be "taken seriously" play the f------ games and quit caring about what some whiney brat has to say about da wimminz Nicole Morgan CeCe Azadi 10 hours ago I do in fact like to converse with other gamers, and I don't like others having the false expectation that I will have an agenda. The worst thing about the feminists who are interfering with this industry is that they try to speak for all women, not just for themselves. That is why I feel it is important to speak out against women like Zoe who do wrong and then play victim, and women like Anita who think games should be easier so women can play them. There are people with an agenda and I do not Reply Cece Azadi → Nicole Morgan , 10 hours ago wow, you don't understand anything about what "the feminists" are doing or what they want. You just swallowed the b------- you've been fed huh? Scared the boys won't date you if you actually leam somethign about feminism? Surprise, the best men are feminists too. Nicole MorganCeCe Azad-10 hours ago Typical feminist tactic. You find out I'm against feminism so youu start attacking my femininity and ability to get laid... which is actually very sexist of you. lol The feminists want every game to meet unobtainable criteria. They complain about slut shaming, but then decry the existence of any character they deem slutty. They want stronger female characters, but then will complain a strong female character is just a 'man with t---'. They want to be taken seriously but complain controls are too difficult. They want there to be no more damsels in game stories, but then play the part of damsel the moment they get hate mail or downvotes. Yes, I know what feminists are about in regards to my hobbies. Outside of my hobbies I already have my rights, am already taken señously by men, and have been silenced by women more often than men in conversation. I've seen the sexism that feminists wield against men, and have seen how easily they will turn on fellow women for dissent, saying the same sexist s--- they'd blow a gasket over if a man were to say it. Thank you for llustrating my last point so well, btw. ) Reply CeCe Azadi → Nicole Morgan , 10 hours ago mmm yes yes. "pats you on the head okay hon. Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi , 10 hours ago There you go again, proving me right. Look at you trying to patronize and dismiss me the same way you complain that men have done to women. It's really ironic, you know, because I never have guys talk to me that way... always feminist women. You are what you hate Reply

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Brian Michael Sfinas ☆ Top Commenter-Boston, Massachusetts This writer either doesnt do research or supports unethical journalism BIASED 4-2 hours ep Lisa Mauro Consultant at Alliance Life Sciences Consulting Group It would have been more accurate to say"Quinn made herself lo op I can not see any bias at all, totally no bias, nothing called bias there at all But they'd developed a d in the eyes o oppo Repy Lke 1 15 minutes ago usually called allies.as though she didnt create all of this herself with her lying and scheming lYe said it before and l sayit again .if you have to depend on trading sex to advance in the world, whatever it is youre selling just isn'1 that good to begin with Jonte MT Adolfsson . ☆ Top Commenter Donating money to feminists in order to gMe females a chance to stand out and produce games. Something every feminist would like to see Reply Like 12 This is anti-feminisl? You people are so f------ stupid. Another foolish artcle. You guys really dontleam do you? This reads as one big confimation bias. Sorry but you are shooting yourselves in the footwith this Brian Michael Stinas ☆ Top Commenter-Boston, Massachusetts e1 Um, no. You dont get it at all. Pretending that women's rights are a valid cover for shity unethical and criminal behavior is about as ant-feminist as it gets. Clearty you have about as much knowedge on the topic as the author. YouTe basically saying that you can do wmatever the f--- you want as long as atenward you say"Everyone admonished me because I'm a girl! Not because, you know, youre a temble, terrible person. Esteban Toyos NewYork, New York You would think that, in the Intemet age, writers would put more emphasis on fact-checking, since aryone can look up the facts to verify. But I guess Alegra Ringo doesnt care about that, 0 o anyone reading this, I IMPLORE YOU to look youll know the truth about Vivian James, 4 n, and thou the Rachelle Lyn Apolonio Bowers Brookyn, New York The lack of research on this artcle would be astounding from any other news site, but from VICE, nachogod12345 (signed in using yah00) Please do your research next time or stick to your strongsuit and go slumming with hipster pseudo- Reply about an hour ago From nistsy is simpy missing the point The entire p ageboasg whatever other labels exst in this world. Simply by attaching labels to yourself on a site that is supposed to be anonymous is met with any sort of negativity. Because there is no point. VWhat you have to say is the fact of the matter, and that is it This article is pure lies pure BS misinformation everwhere Its starting to become very clear that intemet"Joumalist dont preform any kind of research. tne subject you are wnting about isnt clear to you, then maybe you're elther the wrong person the write about this or maybe you should do some research on the subject at hand "...have long disliked Quinn, a self-proclaimed feminist, for reasons that arenespecially clear but feel suspiciousy like good old-fashioned misogyrty." Iyou spent perhaps maybe 5 minutes on any social media site, Twiter Tumblr, etc.you might have seen the criticism and evidence to what people's problems with her are, and how it doesn even boil down to her, but Quinn serves as a catalyst to what is a huge problem in the gaming industry writing other ex as a·jitted ex-boyfriend. shows me you haven't been on the blog, wnich is also evident as you never source any of his posts in this article while taling about him Brad Donald . ☆ Top Commenter Writer did no research and is just bandwagon onto the smearing of4chan Most of the crap he starts out with painting therm as the devil is b-------. Just another lying hit piece by vice. No integrity Vwian James is a character masquerading as a feminist icon for the express purpose of spiting feministsyes, thal's feminists, plural. Except that she's not She's a character who's gender is a moot point in the field of video games. Her stance is "Let's just play video games already." Even TFYC recognize that she stands on neutral ground and isnt a representation of 'feminism. cs and of c For the last bit, amidst 50 comments, 5 of which are the only ones expressing any sort of sexual desire towards ViMan James, 110 of the conversation, but yet, that speaks or everyone right? Might as well just claim they are temorist as well while your at it Allegra Ringo. This is MSNBCFOX tier repoting. Go0d job on having no standards and ethics in your blow propagand a crying wolfvictim. Zoe ahways was claimung to be a victim with no Reply Like 4 about proof. This stuipd writer did not let you know zoe made fake alligations of being hacked and got tigating trash ingo Mike Hatley Top Commenter Works atAmazon.com Well done. You are doing your brethren proud. THIS IS WHY WE NEED CHANGES IN THE MEDIA Reply Like 3 about an hour a this you have literally shown first hand why you are the problem She didnt even talk to TFYC before she wrote this obvious hit piece. No integriy what s0 Anthony Jimenez . ☆ Top Commenter . Perris, Ca mia Awarning for site that contains slurs? On a site that has articles on copulation with animals? Reply Lke 5 n hour u know that quote of yours about your brain leaping your horribly ine now after re James Nichilo St John's earty dont h Kenny Stal ☆ Top C see Andy Fourty-two (signed in using Hotrmail) u avoided doing any r would you like the funding to stop if it meant it would s n more important to you th pport ofwomen trying to enter into the game industry? isnt ommenter We WANT to bury the hatchet We WANT game media f friendship the b Reply Lke 3 cing the negat sitve one of how they c ryou l not get Kirk MerC Systems Administrator at Central Bank Illinois ainst Quinn are men also s the ped Anti feminist? then why did they raise over 1 Lisa Mauro Consultant atAlliance Uife Sciences Consulting Group plenty of people-men and women-that are against what Quinn did. Integr Reply Like 3.36 Did the author of this hare sex with Quinn or is MCE trollin Author has basicaly PROUD F Reply Lke、 5 . about hour ago Reply Lke '13 epy Lke onsu r Simón Bolivar U sex wih Quinn. It is 2014, after all Reply Lke 4 eady weighin i Link... So, she definitely did have sex with her, then? Soneone's from the South. I s well as anryone else who Facebook social plugn to make your gender lo Reply Lke about an hour a Michał Bladek Waibrzych CD-I Link That doesnt stop her from doing the deed. Repy Lke about an hour ago You f---- are retarded, no where in my comment did l imply that the author didnt have Reply Like about an hour a CD-i Link Nowhere, Oklahoma Get the f--- out. ☆ Top CD-i Link im Reply Lke about an hour ago plying zoe quinn isntbisea Brian Michael Sin s . ☆ Top Commenter-Boston, Massachusetts CD-I Lnk is bad at the Internet and logic in general Reply Lk CD.i Link Nowhere, Oklahoma n hour ago se you made a baseless assumption and treated it as the truth, I'm bad atlogic? And the internet? Reply Lke about an hour ago nter Boston, M I Link On okay, I get it now. You dont knowwnatyour words mean, Chec Repy Lke 1 H--------, you're the best t Reply Like about an hour ago Brian raichael STInas ☆ p Commenter Boston, Massachusetts Repy Like abo ing me a Repy Lke
Brian Michael Sfinas ☆ Top Commenter-Boston, Massachusetts This writer either doesnt do research or supports unethical journalism BIASED 4-2 hours ep Lisa Mauro Consultant at Alliance Life Sciences Consulting Group It would have been more accurate to say"Quinn made herself lo op I can not see any bias at all, totally no bias, nothing called bias there at all But they'd developed a d in the eyes o oppo Repy Lke 1 15 minutes ago usually called allies.as though she didnt create all of this herself with her lying and scheming lYe said it before and l sayit again .if you have to depend on trading sex to advance in the world, whatever it is youre selling just isn'1 that good to begin with Jonte MT Adolfsson . ☆ Top Commenter Donating money to feminists in order to gMe females a chance to stand out and produce games. Something every feminist would like to see Reply Like 12 This is anti-feminisl? You people are so f------ stupid. Another foolish artcle. You guys really dontleam do you? This reads as one big confimation bias. Sorry but you are shooting yourselves in the footwith this Brian Michael Stinas ☆ Top Commenter-Boston, Massachusetts e1 Um, no. You dont get it at all. Pretending that women's rights are a valid cover for shity unethical and criminal behavior is about as ant-feminist as it gets. Clearty you have about as much knowedge on the topic as the author. YouTe basically saying that you can do wmatever the f--- you want as long as atenward you say"Everyone admonished me because I'm a girl! Not because, you know, youre a temble, terrible person. Esteban Toyos NewYork, New York You would think that, in the Intemet age, writers would put more emphasis on fact-checking, since aryone can look up the facts to verify. But I guess Alegra Ringo doesnt care about that, 0 o anyone reading this, I IMPLORE YOU to look youll know the truth about Vivian James, 4 n, and thou the Rachelle Lyn Apolonio Bowers Brookyn, New York The lack of research on this artcle would be astounding from any other news site, but from VICE, nachogod12345 (signed in using yah00) Please do your research next time or stick to your strongsuit and go slumming with hipster pseudo- Reply about an hour ago From nistsy is simpy missing the point The entire p ageboasg whatever other labels exst in this world. Simply by attaching labels to yourself on a site that is supposed to be anonymous is met with any sort of negativity. Because there is no point. VWhat you have to say is the fact of the matter, and that is it This article is pure lies pure BS misinformation everwhere Its starting to become very clear that intemet"Joumalist dont preform any kind of research. tne subject you are wnting about isnt clear to you, then maybe you're elther the wrong person the write about this or maybe you should do some research on the subject at hand "...have long disliked Quinn, a self-proclaimed feminist, for reasons that arenespecially clear but feel suspiciousy like good old-fashioned misogyrty." Iyou spent perhaps maybe 5 minutes on any social media site, Twiter Tumblr, etc.you might have seen the criticism and evidence to what people's problems with her are, and how it doesn even boil down to her, but Quinn serves as a catalyst to what is a huge problem in the gaming industry writing other ex as a·jitted ex-boyfriend. shows me you haven't been on the blog, wnich is also evident as you never source any of his posts in this article while taling about him Brad Donald . ☆ Top Commenter Writer did no research and is just bandwagon onto the smearing of4chan Most of the crap he starts out with painting therm as the devil is b-------. Just another lying hit piece by vice. No integrity Vwian James is a character masquerading as a feminist icon for the express purpose of spiting feministsyes, thal's feminists, plural. Except that she's not She's a character who's gender is a moot point in the field of video games. Her stance is "Let's just play video games already." Even TFYC recognize that she stands on neutral ground and isnt a representation of 'feminism. cs and of c For the last bit, amidst 50 comments, 5 of which are the only ones expressing any sort of sexual desire towards ViMan James, 110 of the conversation, but yet, that speaks or everyone right? Might as well just claim they are temorist as well while your at it Allegra Ringo. This is MSNBCFOX tier repoting. Go0d job on having no standards and ethics in your blow propagand a crying wolfvictim. Zoe ahways was claimung to be a victim with no Reply Like 4 about proof. This stuipd writer did not let you know zoe made fake alligations of being hacked and got tigating trash ingo Mike Hatley Top Commenter Works atAmazon.com Well done. You are doing your brethren proud. THIS IS WHY WE NEED CHANGES IN THE MEDIA Reply Like 3 about an hour a this you have literally shown first hand why you are the problem She didnt even talk to TFYC before she wrote this obvious hit piece. No integriy what s0 Anthony Jimenez . ☆ Top Commenter . Perris, Ca mia Awarning for site that contains slurs? On a site that has articles on copulation with animals? Reply Lke 5 n hour u know that quote of yours about your brain leaping your horribly ine now after re James Nichilo St John's earty dont h Kenny Stal ☆ Top C see Andy Fourty-two (signed in using Hotrmail) u avoided doing any r would you like the funding to stop if it meant it would s n more important to you th pport ofwomen trying to enter into the game industry? isnt ommenter We WANT to bury the hatchet We WANT game media f friendship the b Reply Lke 3 cing the negat sitve one of how they c ryou l not get Kirk MerC Systems Administrator at Central Bank Illinois ainst Quinn are men also s the ped Anti feminist? then why did they raise over 1 Lisa Mauro Consultant atAlliance Uife Sciences Consulting Group plenty of people-men and women-that are against what Quinn did. Integr Reply Like 3.36 Did the author of this hare sex with Quinn or is MCE trollin Author has basicaly PROUD F Reply Lke、 5 . about hour ago Reply Lke '13 epy Lke onsu r Simón Bolivar U sex wih Quinn. It is 2014, after all Reply Lke 4 eady weighin i Link... So, she definitely did have sex with her, then? Soneone's from the South. I s well as anryone else who Facebook social plugn to make your gender lo Reply Lke about an hour a Michał Bladek Waibrzych CD-I Link That doesnt stop her from doing the deed. Repy Lke about an hour ago You f---- are retarded, no where in my comment did l imply that the author didnt have Reply Like about an hour a CD-i Link Nowhere, Oklahoma Get the f--- out. ☆ Top CD-i Link im Reply Lke about an hour ago plying zoe quinn isntbisea Brian Michael Sin s . ☆ Top Commenter-Boston, Massachusetts CD-I Lnk is bad at the Internet and logic in general Reply Lk CD.i Link Nowhere, Oklahoma n hour ago se you made a baseless assumption and treated it as the truth, I'm bad atlogic? And the internet? Reply Lke about an hour ago nter Boston, M I Link On okay, I get it now. You dont knowwnatyour words mean, Chec Repy Lke 1 H--------, you're the best t Reply Like about an hour ago Brian raichael STInas ☆ p Commenter Boston, Massachusetts Repy Like abo ing me a Repy Lke

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