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Eron Confirms Another Zoe Acquaintance Testimonial
![H thisuserisnotreal Gl 172 points 2 days ago" (last edited 2 days ago) I met Zoe about 2 1/2 years ago. I had a friend who wanted to date her, and he wanted my opinion of her. After spending some time getting to know her, she seemed really cool. She had big ideas and was extremely passionate. She even mirrored my opinions. You need to know that she's a chameleon. She's charming and can adapt to any environment. It's easy to trust her. This is all relevant to make you understand why people stand up for her. She makes everything she says seem genuine After I told my friend that she was cool and dateable and they started dating, things changed. Suddenly, she was using details from my life story, things that explain why I am who I am, in stories she was telling me. It was then I started to doubt the validity of other things she said (none of which I will share because that is not my place). As I started piecing together stories she told me over the time I knew her, things started not adding up. There were inconsistencies, and I started casually asking her about things when they didn't make sense with the narrative she had previously given This is when she started arguing the most minor things with me, which I assume was to try to discredit the questions I was asking. It also became obvious that she was trying to separate my friend from us (There were more people involved than just me, but I'm one of the only ones willing to risk this and deal with the fallout.) because she'd drag him into the arguments. Who's not going to side with their new S0? One day, I received an email asking what my problem with Zoe was. When I described the things she did, such as stealing bits of my identity (which I believe I just called lying and didn't get into details) and creating discord between us, my friend didn't see things my way. I even pointed out then that she is the type of feminist who uses feminism to get ahead and for hate. Instead of reading the words I used and the points I made, the response I received was only thatI hate her because she's a feminist. (FYI, I'm a feminist who knows that men are our allies and we need to work together.) I recognized the lying and manipulation pretty quickly (maybe 6-8 weeks in), so I don't have a mo compelling story. Ever since then, I've had to sit silently and watch her be lauded for her strong principles and social activism. Anyone I told about her behavior, even if she had screwed them in some way, excused it mostly out of fear of losing a contact or a friend who happened to be friends with her I don't care about her being punished or losing her status as a dev. It's not about that for me. It's about recognizing a hurtful person and that person learning and stopping it. I don't want people to harass her. I don't want people to harass her friends. I just want all the abusive behavior (from all parties) to end permalink source save save-RES report give gold reply hide child comments xciting or -1 qrios[S] 94 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) User confirmed. She knew Zoe. And I ha few things I want to comment on here Su ng m w is thing here. Zoe would do this exactly. Either mirror sentiments I'd expressed "I'm worried I care more about you about me" [in the green logs.] Or if I speculated as to whether I did something wrong, she would play that mmo W ma ely did wrong pretty quickly (maybe 6-8 weeks i xciting ng story lau nd social activism. An screwe me wa riend W ogi warning m w l eXIS User is cool Anywa rama urprise gu perma save save-RES parent report give gold reply](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/819/880/627.png)
![H thisuserisnotreal Gl 172 points 2 days ago" (last edited 2 days ago) I met Zoe about 2 1/2 years ago. I had a friend who wanted to date her, and he wanted my opinion of her. After spending some time getting to know her, she seemed really cool. She had big ideas and was extremely passionate. She even mirrored my opinions. You need to know that she's a chameleon. She's charming and can adapt to any environment. It's easy to trust her. This is all relevant to make you understand why people stand up for her. She makes everything she says seem genuine After I told my friend that she was cool and dateable and they started dating, things changed. Suddenly, she was using details from my life story, things that explain why I am who I am, in stories she was telling me. It was then I started to doubt the validity of other things she said (none of which I will share because that is not my place). As I started piecing together stories she told me over the time I knew her, things started not adding up. There were inconsistencies, and I started casually asking her about things when they didn't make sense with the narrative she had previously given This is when she started arguing the most minor things with me, which I assume was to try to discredit the questions I was asking. It also became obvious that she was trying to separate my friend from us (There were more people involved than just me, but I'm one of the only ones willing to risk this and deal with the fallout.) because she'd drag him into the arguments. Who's not going to side with their new S0? One day, I received an email asking what my problem with Zoe was. When I described the things she did, such as stealing bits of my identity (which I believe I just called lying and didn't get into details) and creating discord between us, my friend didn't see things my way. I even pointed out then that she is the type of feminist who uses feminism to get ahead and for hate. Instead of reading the words I used and the points I made, the response I received was only thatI hate her because she's a feminist. (FYI, I'm a feminist who knows that men are our allies and we need to work together.) I recognized the lying and manipulation pretty quickly (maybe 6-8 weeks in), so I don't have a mo compelling story. Ever since then, I've had to sit silently and watch her be lauded for her strong principles and social activism. Anyone I told about her behavior, even if she had screwed them in some way, excused it mostly out of fear of losing a contact or a friend who happened to be friends with her I don't care about her being punished or losing her status as a dev. It's not about that for me. It's about recognizing a hurtful person and that person learning and stopping it. I don't want people to harass her. I don't want people to harass her friends. I just want all the abusive behavior (from all parties) to end permalink source save save-RES report give gold reply hide child comments xciting or -1 qrios[S] 94 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) User confirmed. She knew Zoe. And I ha few things I want to comment on here Su ng m w is thing here. Zoe would do this exactly. Either mirror sentiments I'd expressed "I'm worried I care more about you about me" [in the green logs.] Or if I speculated as to whether I did something wrong, she would play that mmo W ma ely did wrong pretty quickly (maybe 6-8 weeks i xciting ng story lau nd social activism. An screwe me wa riend W ogi warning m w l eXIS User is cool Anywa rama urprise gu perma save save-RES parent report give gold reply](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/819/880/627.png)
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![Extremes I'm a nobody. I don't know how many tweets you get coming at you, especially now, I can only imagine how much you have to sort through. I'm just one voice, and sadly, I'm sure it will get drowned out by louder and more numerous voices. This is an issue that bothers me though, and it needs to be said. I just hope I don't get ignored and my message is heard. If not by you, Zoe, by someone Extremes. If you listen to the media, it seems to be all that exists anymore. You're either on one end of the spectrum or the other. There is no in between. You're either with us, or against us, and if you're against us, then you have all the traits we associate with the other side. There are no exceptions, no matter how you present yourself There are a lot of people upset about all this, and what it has uncovered. I think it's extremely juvenile to simply brush off anyone with criticism involved with this as "against women in gaming." While I'm positive there are some among us who feel that strongly about it, MANY of us do not feel that way. At the end of the day, we love games, regardless of where they come from or who made them. A lot of us understand the part women not only play in the current industry, but in the history of the entire culture Case in point, when The Fine Young Capitalists wanted to thank 4chan's N/ board for their donations to their project, they asked N/ for suggestions on their video series regarding women in gaming, the response was clear They wanted them to do videos on great females who work in the industry. N/ even supplied TFYC with a picture that's been passed around N/ for ages, of prominent women who have contributed significantly to the industry. I want to make that clear, this picture has been around for a long time, it wasn't created for the sole purpose of sending this to TFYC. When TFYC askedi, many users requested someone post that picture, as it's a perfect example of many of the women who work in the industry You can find that picture here:http://i.imgur.com/6Crriga.png" class-"linkifyplus >http://i.imgur.com/6Crriga.png Nl donated to TFYC not because of spite, or because of pity. I'm sure some anons did, because the extreme DOES exist, but the response was so strong because n/ believed in the message TFYC was trying to deliver They believed not enough women got into gaming because they were told they couldn't, and they wanted to prove that women CAN design and make great games. Many anons didn't even care about the message, but liked the games being presented and voted because they wanted to see the game get made This message again is very clear in the character N/ came together and designed for TFYC because of their donation level. Vivian James. "Let's just play already." It's a message that should resonates with what I'm trying to say. The majority of us, again ignoring the extremes, just love great games and will support those great games A lot of us are annoyed at those threatening your life. It's not helping our message, it's not helping our cause Your biggest defense is that you're being harassed you, doxed, insulted, and threatened. Instead of actually addressing the concerns, it becomes about you being attacked. I think I speak for a lot of us when I say that's despicable of those doing that to you. I know I don't speak for everyone, because again, those on the extreme ends of the spectrum DO exist, but they are not the majority of the people talking about this We're getting grouped with those people however, and anything we try to bring to light gets discredited, not by the merit of its claim, but by your automatic association with those who are actually doing you harm. I do not know if it's intentional or not, but it seems hypocritical to judge someone based on your assumption of them, rather tharn what they are actually trying to say I also want to make it very, VERY clear that the extremes are on BOTH ends of the spectrum. I have seen some absolutely disgusting things being said from people who support you. Everything you're allegedly going through, I have seen done to people in YOUR name. One in particular that stands out to me, is comparing anyone on this "side" to ISIS. That should sicken you And so, we come to this. The actual issue we have. As I've mentioned in my earlier tweets, which I am assuming you paid little attention to, we have been tired of the corruption rampant in the industry for some time. It's obvious what's going on, but rarely do we have evidence. We only see what's on the surface, and can only guess what's going on behind the scenes. Sometimes we get glimpses, but very rarely do we get anything concrete Then Eron comes along with his "manifesto." First thing I want to address is this, stop trying to simply write it off as a jilted ex-boyfriend. He provides CREDIBLE sources for his claims. i.e. directly from you, Zoe. He proves the chat logs are not doctored, but seeing how you're the one that wrote to him, you very well know this. People have been put under the bus with MUCH less evidence I want to stress this next part, as it is one of the more common deflections made. The fact that you slept with several individuals is NOT the issue. I can not stress this enough. What is important is who you slept with, and some will argue infidelity as it speaks to your character. They believe that you can not be trusted, and plays a large part as to why many people are so willing to believe you'd false-flag your doxs, and that you did them yourself. They believe that if you can be that manipulative to someone you claim you care about, how far are you willing to go to prove your point to people you don't even know. Having an active sexual life is one thing, cheating is something else all together, and will always paint someone in a different light to many people afterwards The infidelity, while an issue for some, is not the resounding problem though. The issue is journalistic integrity and just how close and familiar developers are getting with their journalists reporting on them. Most of us know Nathan Grayson never wrote a review for your game. While it's not clear the exact conditions of your relationship with Nathan at the time of the posted article concerning the failed Game Jam relationship, he did not make the ethical decision to report the relationship, and recuse himself from possible future situations r you two engaged in a sexual The fact that he did not do that bothers many. It seems to indicate that it's not instilled into journalists that it's the ethical thing to do. Many developers and journalists form close bonds, but when a journalist reports on something, we have no transparency of the connection and bond those two entities share. When a journalist gets close to a developer, that creates a conflict of interest as they may be more or sometimes even less favorable of the content the developer creates because of their connection they share. Whether or not they are more favorable or less critical, it is still a clear and present conflict of interest. It has manipulated their motivation, as they might expect more of them, or are more willing to let something slide, because of their bond. It does not matter if Nathan never reported on anything you've done since you had sexual encounters. He should have known what the ethical thing to do was, and he did not take that step At the time of me writing this, Kotaku has admitted they should be more transparent to this exact kind of thing Stephen Totilo has not only said they will make sure that articles will make sure to mention personal connections between the journalist and news source, but that any of their journalists aren't allowed to directly fund individual developers through Patreon. Why do you think this is? It's true, it wasn't JUST the Nathan Grayson stuff that brought it to this, but how can you continue to claim this is just about you as a woman, when we're already gotten Kotaku to admit they might have been wrong? And it all comes back to extremes. I hope someone took the time to read this and can see that I'm not a sexist pig sending r--- threats, but rather someone who is upset at something they are passionate about, and finally getting the concrete evidence needed to demand some change. If you see the constant threads on Ni, the overwhelming call is to NOT harass, as that will accomplish nothing. You're focusing just on the extremists, and I fully agree that what they are doing is juvenile and reprehensible. They are just the loudest though. That majority believe it or not, are right there with you thinking they are terrible people. But you need to stop grouping everyone who isn't in support of you into that category. I hope I reach out to even just one person, and at the end of this they understand that we're not all extremists](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/819/789/8ea.png)
![Extremes I'm a nobody. I don't know how many tweets you get coming at you, especially now, I can only imagine how much you have to sort through. I'm just one voice, and sadly, I'm sure it will get drowned out by louder and more numerous voices. This is an issue that bothers me though, and it needs to be said. I just hope I don't get ignored and my message is heard. If not by you, Zoe, by someone Extremes. If you listen to the media, it seems to be all that exists anymore. You're either on one end of the spectrum or the other. There is no in between. You're either with us, or against us, and if you're against us, then you have all the traits we associate with the other side. There are no exceptions, no matter how you present yourself There are a lot of people upset about all this, and what it has uncovered. I think it's extremely juvenile to simply brush off anyone with criticism involved with this as "against women in gaming." While I'm positive there are some among us who feel that strongly about it, MANY of us do not feel that way. At the end of the day, we love games, regardless of where they come from or who made them. A lot of us understand the part women not only play in the current industry, but in the history of the entire culture Case in point, when The Fine Young Capitalists wanted to thank 4chan's N/ board for their donations to their project, they asked N/ for suggestions on their video series regarding women in gaming, the response was clear They wanted them to do videos on great females who work in the industry. N/ even supplied TFYC with a picture that's been passed around N/ for ages, of prominent women who have contributed significantly to the industry. I want to make that clear, this picture has been around for a long time, it wasn't created for the sole purpose of sending this to TFYC. When TFYC askedi, many users requested someone post that picture, as it's a perfect example of many of the women who work in the industry You can find that picture here:http://i.imgur.com/6Crriga.png" class-"linkifyplus >http://i.imgur.com/6Crriga.png Nl donated to TFYC not because of spite, or because of pity. I'm sure some anons did, because the extreme DOES exist, but the response was so strong because n/ believed in the message TFYC was trying to deliver They believed not enough women got into gaming because they were told they couldn't, and they wanted to prove that women CAN design and make great games. Many anons didn't even care about the message, but liked the games being presented and voted because they wanted to see the game get made This message again is very clear in the character N/ came together and designed for TFYC because of their donation level. Vivian James. "Let's just play already." It's a message that should resonates with what I'm trying to say. The majority of us, again ignoring the extremes, just love great games and will support those great games A lot of us are annoyed at those threatening your life. It's not helping our message, it's not helping our cause Your biggest defense is that you're being harassed you, doxed, insulted, and threatened. Instead of actually addressing the concerns, it becomes about you being attacked. I think I speak for a lot of us when I say that's despicable of those doing that to you. I know I don't speak for everyone, because again, those on the extreme ends of the spectrum DO exist, but they are not the majority of the people talking about this We're getting grouped with those people however, and anything we try to bring to light gets discredited, not by the merit of its claim, but by your automatic association with those who are actually doing you harm. I do not know if it's intentional or not, but it seems hypocritical to judge someone based on your assumption of them, rather tharn what they are actually trying to say I also want to make it very, VERY clear that the extremes are on BOTH ends of the spectrum. I have seen some absolutely disgusting things being said from people who support you. Everything you're allegedly going through, I have seen done to people in YOUR name. One in particular that stands out to me, is comparing anyone on this "side" to ISIS. That should sicken you And so, we come to this. The actual issue we have. As I've mentioned in my earlier tweets, which I am assuming you paid little attention to, we have been tired of the corruption rampant in the industry for some time. It's obvious what's going on, but rarely do we have evidence. We only see what's on the surface, and can only guess what's going on behind the scenes. Sometimes we get glimpses, but very rarely do we get anything concrete Then Eron comes along with his "manifesto." First thing I want to address is this, stop trying to simply write it off as a jilted ex-boyfriend. He provides CREDIBLE sources for his claims. i.e. directly from you, Zoe. He proves the chat logs are not doctored, but seeing how you're the one that wrote to him, you very well know this. People have been put under the bus with MUCH less evidence I want to stress this next part, as it is one of the more common deflections made. The fact that you slept with several individuals is NOT the issue. I can not stress this enough. What is important is who you slept with, and some will argue infidelity as it speaks to your character. They believe that you can not be trusted, and plays a large part as to why many people are so willing to believe you'd false-flag your doxs, and that you did them yourself. They believe that if you can be that manipulative to someone you claim you care about, how far are you willing to go to prove your point to people you don't even know. Having an active sexual life is one thing, cheating is something else all together, and will always paint someone in a different light to many people afterwards The infidelity, while an issue for some, is not the resounding problem though. The issue is journalistic integrity and just how close and familiar developers are getting with their journalists reporting on them. Most of us know Nathan Grayson never wrote a review for your game. While it's not clear the exact conditions of your relationship with Nathan at the time of the posted article concerning the failed Game Jam relationship, he did not make the ethical decision to report the relationship, and recuse himself from possible future situations r you two engaged in a sexual The fact that he did not do that bothers many. It seems to indicate that it's not instilled into journalists that it's the ethical thing to do. Many developers and journalists form close bonds, but when a journalist reports on something, we have no transparency of the connection and bond those two entities share. When a journalist gets close to a developer, that creates a conflict of interest as they may be more or sometimes even less favorable of the content the developer creates because of their connection they share. Whether or not they are more favorable or less critical, it is still a clear and present conflict of interest. It has manipulated their motivation, as they might expect more of them, or are more willing to let something slide, because of their bond. It does not matter if Nathan never reported on anything you've done since you had sexual encounters. He should have known what the ethical thing to do was, and he did not take that step At the time of me writing this, Kotaku has admitted they should be more transparent to this exact kind of thing Stephen Totilo has not only said they will make sure that articles will make sure to mention personal connections between the journalist and news source, but that any of their journalists aren't allowed to directly fund individual developers through Patreon. Why do you think this is? It's true, it wasn't JUST the Nathan Grayson stuff that brought it to this, but how can you continue to claim this is just about you as a woman, when we're already gotten Kotaku to admit they might have been wrong? And it all comes back to extremes. I hope someone took the time to read this and can see that I'm not a sexist pig sending r--- threats, but rather someone who is upset at something they are passionate about, and finally getting the concrete evidence needed to demand some change. If you see the constant threads on Ni, the overwhelming call is to NOT harass, as that will accomplish nothing. You're focusing just on the extremists, and I fully agree that what they are doing is juvenile and reprehensible. They are just the loudest though. That majority believe it or not, are right there with you thinking they are terrible people. But you need to stop grouping everyone who isn't in support of you into that category. I hope I reach out to even just one person, and at the end of this they understand that we're not all extremists](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/819/789/8ea.png)
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![Nicole Morgan → Kingdo Goodbomber . 9 hours ago That's a bit pedantic. The demands of the audience influence the development of games. Different franchises and genres have different audiences, with some overlap. My likes as someone who plays Dragon Age for example does factor into the feedback they get, and does it's minuscule part to shape the product. The issue is that each individual is but a drop in the seas. I am actually pretty satisfied that some things I want in games do come to be. That does not mean I as a fan shape every detail of every game, which is what I think some angry fans of all stripes do not 'get Reply Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi . 10 hours ago Activists like Anita, for example. I already specified that most female gamers aren't a part of it. CeCe Azadi → Nicole Morgan , 10 hours ago haha in your experience. I wonder how many female gamers you actually know very well. Its also likely that knowing how simplistically you view this whole issue they just pat you on the head and talk about the adult subject when you aren't around. I know I would. Of all the gamers I know, and I've been gaming for twenty years or so, more than half are female and ALL of them are feminists and would like to see more female oriented interests exhibited in games. None of us think there's anything wrong with that because as I said, our money is just as green as the men. And in fact all the male gamers I know think gaming would only be enhanced by adding female issues to the games. Plenty of press about that too. In fact its prtty obvious that the feminist gamers outnumber the anti-feminist gamers. We just don't ahways bother talking with your kind. But the media agrees too are> Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi , 10 hours ago There's no problem with wanting to see more feminine interests exhibited in games. The controversy is that feminist activists want to see all games change to meet their criteria. Also FY, female oriented interests' is a pretty sexist thing to say Females are not homogeneous, we do not all share the same interests. Surely you realize this? Cece Azadi → Nicole Morgan 9 hours ago Geeziz, "female oriented" means "women only"- really? l can't with this simplistic thinking. Seriously Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi . 9 hours ago Female oriented means oriented to the interests of females as a collective group. That is how words work. I'm not sure where you get your definitions from. I can't with this Tumblr speak. Seriously Reply Cece Azadi → CeCe Azadi , 11 hours ago and frankly if you're a gamer, I am puzzled as to why it would even matter to you that you be taken seriously. Are you gaming? Are you playing? and levelling up? at least occasionally? Then great, you're a gamer and you're serous. you get the serious gamer cooky" prize If you want to be "taken seriously" play the f------ games and quit caring about what some whiney brat has to say about da wimminz Nicole Morgan CeCe Azadi 10 hours ago I do in fact like to converse with other gamers, and I don't like others having the false expectation that I will have an agenda. The worst thing about the feminists who are interfering with this industry is that they try to speak for all women, not just for themselves. That is why I feel it is important to speak out against women like Zoe who do wrong and then play victim, and women like Anita who think games should be easier so women can play them. There are people with an agenda and I do not Reply Cece Azadi → Nicole Morgan , 10 hours ago wow, you don't understand anything about what "the feminists" are doing or what they want. You just swallowed the b------- you've been fed huh? Scared the boys won't date you if you actually leam somethign about feminism? Surprise, the best men are feminists too. Nicole MorganCeCe Azad-10 hours ago Typical feminist tactic. You find out I'm against feminism so youu start attacking my femininity and ability to get laid... which is actually very sexist of you. lol The feminists want every game to meet unobtainable criteria. They complain about slut shaming, but then decry the existence of any character they deem slutty. They want stronger female characters, but then will complain a strong female character is just a 'man with t---'. They want to be taken seriously but complain controls are too difficult. They want there to be no more damsels in game stories, but then play the part of damsel the moment they get hate mail or downvotes. Yes, I know what feminists are about in regards to my hobbies. Outside of my hobbies I already have my rights, am already taken señously by men, and have been silenced by women more often than men in conversation. I've seen the sexism that feminists wield against men, and have seen how easily they will turn on fellow women for dissent, saying the same sexist s--- they'd blow a gasket over if a man were to say it. Thank you for llustrating my last point so well, btw. ) Reply CeCe Azadi → Nicole Morgan , 10 hours ago mmm yes yes. "pats you on the head okay hon. Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi , 10 hours ago There you go again, proving me right. Look at you trying to patronize and dismiss me the same way you complain that men have done to women. It's really ironic, you know, because I never have guys talk to me that way... always feminist women. You are what you hate Reply](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/819/788/6e7.jpg)
![Nicole Morgan → Kingdo Goodbomber . 9 hours ago That's a bit pedantic. The demands of the audience influence the development of games. Different franchises and genres have different audiences, with some overlap. My likes as someone who plays Dragon Age for example does factor into the feedback they get, and does it's minuscule part to shape the product. The issue is that each individual is but a drop in the seas. I am actually pretty satisfied that some things I want in games do come to be. That does not mean I as a fan shape every detail of every game, which is what I think some angry fans of all stripes do not 'get Reply Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi . 10 hours ago Activists like Anita, for example. I already specified that most female gamers aren't a part of it. CeCe Azadi → Nicole Morgan , 10 hours ago haha in your experience. I wonder how many female gamers you actually know very well. Its also likely that knowing how simplistically you view this whole issue they just pat you on the head and talk about the adult subject when you aren't around. I know I would. Of all the gamers I know, and I've been gaming for twenty years or so, more than half are female and ALL of them are feminists and would like to see more female oriented interests exhibited in games. None of us think there's anything wrong with that because as I said, our money is just as green as the men. And in fact all the male gamers I know think gaming would only be enhanced by adding female issues to the games. Plenty of press about that too. In fact its prtty obvious that the feminist gamers outnumber the anti-feminist gamers. We just don't ahways bother talking with your kind. But the media agrees too are> Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi , 10 hours ago There's no problem with wanting to see more feminine interests exhibited in games. The controversy is that feminist activists want to see all games change to meet their criteria. Also FY, female oriented interests' is a pretty sexist thing to say Females are not homogeneous, we do not all share the same interests. Surely you realize this? Cece Azadi → Nicole Morgan 9 hours ago Geeziz, "female oriented" means "women only"- really? l can't with this simplistic thinking. Seriously Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi . 9 hours ago Female oriented means oriented to the interests of females as a collective group. That is how words work. I'm not sure where you get your definitions from. I can't with this Tumblr speak. Seriously Reply Cece Azadi → CeCe Azadi , 11 hours ago and frankly if you're a gamer, I am puzzled as to why it would even matter to you that you be taken seriously. Are you gaming? Are you playing? and levelling up? at least occasionally? Then great, you're a gamer and you're serous. you get the serious gamer cooky" prize If you want to be "taken seriously" play the f------ games and quit caring about what some whiney brat has to say about da wimminz Nicole Morgan CeCe Azadi 10 hours ago I do in fact like to converse with other gamers, and I don't like others having the false expectation that I will have an agenda. The worst thing about the feminists who are interfering with this industry is that they try to speak for all women, not just for themselves. That is why I feel it is important to speak out against women like Zoe who do wrong and then play victim, and women like Anita who think games should be easier so women can play them. There are people with an agenda and I do not Reply Cece Azadi → Nicole Morgan , 10 hours ago wow, you don't understand anything about what "the feminists" are doing or what they want. You just swallowed the b------- you've been fed huh? Scared the boys won't date you if you actually leam somethign about feminism? Surprise, the best men are feminists too. Nicole MorganCeCe Azad-10 hours ago Typical feminist tactic. You find out I'm against feminism so youu start attacking my femininity and ability to get laid... which is actually very sexist of you. lol The feminists want every game to meet unobtainable criteria. They complain about slut shaming, but then decry the existence of any character they deem slutty. They want stronger female characters, but then will complain a strong female character is just a 'man with t---'. They want to be taken seriously but complain controls are too difficult. They want there to be no more damsels in game stories, but then play the part of damsel the moment they get hate mail or downvotes. Yes, I know what feminists are about in regards to my hobbies. Outside of my hobbies I already have my rights, am already taken señously by men, and have been silenced by women more often than men in conversation. I've seen the sexism that feminists wield against men, and have seen how easily they will turn on fellow women for dissent, saying the same sexist s--- they'd blow a gasket over if a man were to say it. Thank you for llustrating my last point so well, btw. ) Reply CeCe Azadi → Nicole Morgan , 10 hours ago mmm yes yes. "pats you on the head okay hon. Nicole Morgan → CeCe Azadi , 10 hours ago There you go again, proving me right. Look at you trying to patronize and dismiss me the same way you complain that men have done to women. It's really ironic, you know, because I never have guys talk to me that way... always feminist women. You are what you hate Reply](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/819/788/6e7.jpg)
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![Brian Michael Sfinas ☆ Top Commenter-Boston, Massachusetts This writer either doesnt do research or supports unethical journalism BIASED 4-2 hours ep Lisa Mauro Consultant at Alliance Life Sciences Consulting Group It would have been more accurate to say"Quinn made herself lo op I can not see any bias at all, totally no bias, nothing called bias there at all But they'd developed a d in the eyes o oppo Repy Lke 1 15 minutes ago usually called allies.as though she didnt create all of this herself with her lying and scheming lYe said it before and l sayit again .if you have to depend on trading sex to advance in the world, whatever it is youre selling just isn'1 that good to begin with Jonte MT Adolfsson . ☆ Top Commenter Donating money to feminists in order to gMe females a chance to stand out and produce games. Something every feminist would like to see Reply Like 12 This is anti-feminisl? You people are so f------ stupid. Another foolish artcle. You guys really dontleam do you? This reads as one big confimation bias. Sorry but you are shooting yourselves in the footwith this Brian Michael Stinas ☆ Top Commenter-Boston, Massachusetts e1 Um, no. You dont get it at all. Pretending that women's rights are a valid cover for shity unethical and criminal behavior is about as ant-feminist as it gets. Clearty you have about as much knowedge on the topic as the author. YouTe basically saying that you can do wmatever the f--- you want as long as atenward you say"Everyone admonished me because I'm a girl! Not because, you know, youre a temble, terrible person. Esteban Toyos NewYork, New York You would think that, in the Intemet age, writers would put more emphasis on fact-checking, since aryone can look up the facts to verify. But I guess Alegra Ringo doesnt care about that, 0 o anyone reading this, I IMPLORE YOU to look youll know the truth about Vivian James, 4 n, and thou the Rachelle Lyn Apolonio Bowers Brookyn, New York The lack of research on this artcle would be astounding from any other news site, but from VICE, nachogod12345 (signed in using yah00) Please do your research next time or stick to your strongsuit and go slumming with hipster pseudo- Reply about an hour ago From nistsy is simpy missing the point The entire p ageboasg whatever other labels exst in this world. Simply by attaching labels to yourself on a site that is supposed to be anonymous is met with any sort of negativity. Because there is no point. VWhat you have to say is the fact of the matter, and that is it This article is pure lies pure BS misinformation everwhere Its starting to become very clear that intemet"Joumalist dont preform any kind of research. tne subject you are wnting about isnt clear to you, then maybe you're elther the wrong person the write about this or maybe you should do some research on the subject at hand "...have long disliked Quinn, a self-proclaimed feminist, for reasons that arenespecially clear but feel suspiciousy like good old-fashioned misogyrty." Iyou spent perhaps maybe 5 minutes on any social media site, Twiter Tumblr, etc.you might have seen the criticism and evidence to what people's problems with her are, and how it doesn even boil down to her, but Quinn serves as a catalyst to what is a huge problem in the gaming industry writing other ex as a·jitted ex-boyfriend. shows me you haven't been on the blog, wnich is also evident as you never source any of his posts in this article while taling about him Brad Donald . ☆ Top Commenter Writer did no research and is just bandwagon onto the smearing of4chan Most of the crap he starts out with painting therm as the devil is b-------. Just another lying hit piece by vice. No integrity Vwian James is a character masquerading as a feminist icon for the express purpose of spiting feministsyes, thal's feminists, plural. Except that she's not She's a character who's gender is a moot point in the field of video games. Her stance is "Let's just play video games already." Even TFYC recognize that she stands on neutral ground and isnt a representation of 'feminism. cs and of c For the last bit, amidst 50 comments, 5 of which are the only ones expressing any sort of sexual desire towards ViMan James, 110 of the conversation, but yet, that speaks or everyone right? Might as well just claim they are temorist as well while your at it Allegra Ringo. This is MSNBCFOX tier repoting. Go0d job on having no standards and ethics in your blow propagand a crying wolfvictim. Zoe ahways was claimung to be a victim with no Reply Like 4 about proof. This stuipd writer did not let you know zoe made fake alligations of being hacked and got tigating trash ingo Mike Hatley Top Commenter Works atAmazon.com Well done. You are doing your brethren proud. THIS IS WHY WE NEED CHANGES IN THE MEDIA Reply Like 3 about an hour a this you have literally shown first hand why you are the problem She didnt even talk to TFYC before she wrote this obvious hit piece. No integriy what s0 Anthony Jimenez . ☆ Top Commenter . Perris, Ca mia Awarning for site that contains slurs? On a site that has articles on copulation with animals? Reply Lke 5 n hour u know that quote of yours about your brain leaping your horribly ine now after re James Nichilo St John's earty dont h Kenny Stal ☆ Top C see Andy Fourty-two (signed in using Hotrmail) u avoided doing any r would you like the funding to stop if it meant it would s n more important to you th pport ofwomen trying to enter into the game industry? isnt ommenter We WANT to bury the hatchet We WANT game media f friendship the b Reply Lke 3 cing the negat sitve one of how they c ryou l not get Kirk MerC Systems Administrator at Central Bank Illinois ainst Quinn are men also s the ped Anti feminist? then why did they raise over 1 Lisa Mauro Consultant atAlliance Uife Sciences Consulting Group plenty of people-men and women-that are against what Quinn did. Integr Reply Like 3.36 Did the author of this hare sex with Quinn or is MCE trollin Author has basicaly PROUD F Reply Lke、 5 . about hour ago Reply Lke '13 epy Lke onsu r Simón Bolivar U sex wih Quinn. It is 2014, after all Reply Lke 4 eady weighin i Link... So, she definitely did have sex with her, then? Soneone's from the South. I s well as anryone else who Facebook social plugn to make your gender lo Reply Lke about an hour a Michał Bladek Waibrzych CD-I Link That doesnt stop her from doing the deed. 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![Brian Michael Sfinas ☆ Top Commenter-Boston, Massachusetts This writer either doesnt do research or supports unethical journalism BIASED 4-2 hours ep Lisa Mauro Consultant at Alliance Life Sciences Consulting Group It would have been more accurate to say"Quinn made herself lo op I can not see any bias at all, totally no bias, nothing called bias there at all But they'd developed a d in the eyes o oppo Repy Lke 1 15 minutes ago usually called allies.as though she didnt create all of this herself with her lying and scheming lYe said it before and l sayit again .if you have to depend on trading sex to advance in the world, whatever it is youre selling just isn'1 that good to begin with Jonte MT Adolfsson . ☆ Top Commenter Donating money to feminists in order to gMe females a chance to stand out and produce games. Something every feminist would like to see Reply Like 12 This is anti-feminisl? You people are so f------ stupid. Another foolish artcle. You guys really dontleam do you? This reads as one big confimation bias. Sorry but you are shooting yourselves in the footwith this Brian Michael Stinas ☆ Top Commenter-Boston, Massachusetts e1 Um, no. You dont get it at all. Pretending that women's rights are a valid cover for shity unethical and criminal behavior is about as ant-feminist as it gets. Clearty you have about as much knowedge on the topic as the author. YouTe basically saying that you can do wmatever the f--- you want as long as atenward you say"Everyone admonished me because I'm a girl! Not because, you know, youre a temble, terrible person. Esteban Toyos NewYork, New York You would think that, in the Intemet age, writers would put more emphasis on fact-checking, since aryone can look up the facts to verify. But I guess Alegra Ringo doesnt care about that, 0 o anyone reading this, I IMPLORE YOU to look youll know the truth about Vivian James, 4 n, and thou the Rachelle Lyn Apolonio Bowers Brookyn, New York The lack of research on this artcle would be astounding from any other news site, but from VICE, nachogod12345 (signed in using yah00) Please do your research next time or stick to your strongsuit and go slumming with hipster pseudo- Reply about an hour ago From nistsy is simpy missing the point The entire p ageboasg whatever other labels exst in this world. Simply by attaching labels to yourself on a site that is supposed to be anonymous is met with any sort of negativity. Because there is no point. VWhat you have to say is the fact of the matter, and that is it This article is pure lies pure BS misinformation everwhere Its starting to become very clear that intemet"Joumalist dont preform any kind of research. tne subject you are wnting about isnt clear to you, then maybe you're elther the wrong person the write about this or maybe you should do some research on the subject at hand "...have long disliked Quinn, a self-proclaimed feminist, for reasons that arenespecially clear but feel suspiciousy like good old-fashioned misogyrty." Iyou spent perhaps maybe 5 minutes on any social media site, Twiter Tumblr, etc.you might have seen the criticism and evidence to what people's problems with her are, and how it doesn even boil down to her, but Quinn serves as a catalyst to what is a huge problem in the gaming industry writing other ex as a·jitted ex-boyfriend. shows me you haven't been on the blog, wnich is also evident as you never source any of his posts in this article while taling about him Brad Donald . ☆ Top Commenter Writer did no research and is just bandwagon onto the smearing of4chan Most of the crap he starts out with painting therm as the devil is b-------. Just another lying hit piece by vice. No integrity Vwian James is a character masquerading as a feminist icon for the express purpose of spiting feministsyes, thal's feminists, plural. Except that she's not She's a character who's gender is a moot point in the field of video games. Her stance is "Let's just play video games already." Even TFYC recognize that she stands on neutral ground and isnt a representation of 'feminism. cs and of c For the last bit, amidst 50 comments, 5 of which are the only ones expressing any sort of sexual desire towards ViMan James, 110 of the conversation, but yet, that speaks or everyone right? Might as well just claim they are temorist as well while your at it Allegra Ringo. This is MSNBCFOX tier repoting. Go0d job on having no standards and ethics in your blow propagand a crying wolfvictim. Zoe ahways was claimung to be a victim with no Reply Like 4 about proof. This stuipd writer did not let you know zoe made fake alligations of being hacked and got tigating trash ingo Mike Hatley Top Commenter Works atAmazon.com Well done. You are doing your brethren proud. THIS IS WHY WE NEED CHANGES IN THE MEDIA Reply Like 3 about an hour a this you have literally shown first hand why you are the problem She didnt even talk to TFYC before she wrote this obvious hit piece. No integriy what s0 Anthony Jimenez . ☆ Top Commenter . Perris, Ca mia Awarning for site that contains slurs? On a site that has articles on copulation with animals? Reply Lke 5 n hour u know that quote of yours about your brain leaping your horribly ine now after re James Nichilo St John's earty dont h Kenny Stal ☆ Top C see Andy Fourty-two (signed in using Hotrmail) u avoided doing any r would you like the funding to stop if it meant it would s n more important to you th pport ofwomen trying to enter into the game industry? isnt ommenter We WANT to bury the hatchet We WANT game media f friendship the b Reply Lke 3 cing the negat sitve one of how they c ryou l not get Kirk MerC Systems Administrator at Central Bank Illinois ainst Quinn are men also s the ped Anti feminist? then why did they raise over 1 Lisa Mauro Consultant atAlliance Uife Sciences Consulting Group plenty of people-men and women-that are against what Quinn did. Integr Reply Like 3.36 Did the author of this hare sex with Quinn or is MCE trollin Author has basicaly PROUD F Reply Lke、 5 . about hour ago Reply Lke '13 epy Lke onsu r Simón Bolivar U sex wih Quinn. It is 2014, after all Reply Lke 4 eady weighin i Link... So, she definitely did have sex with her, then? Soneone's from the South. I s well as anryone else who Facebook social plugn to make your gender lo Reply Lke about an hour a Michał Bladek Waibrzych CD-I Link That doesnt stop her from doing the deed. 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![tUnited States HOME VIDEO NEWS MUSIC FASHION PHOTO TRAVEL SPORTS FOOD NSFW MAGAZINE DOS & DON'TS COMMENTS MOST POPULAR 24 comments ▼ Add a comment Brian Michael Sfinas-☆ Top Commenter-Boston, Massachusetts This writer either doesnt do research or supports unethical journalism. Reply-Like- 13-about an hour ago Lisa Mauro Consultant at Alliance Life Sciences Consulting Group It would have been more accurate to say "Quinn made herself look bad in the eyes of the feminists she usually called allies rather than But they'd developed a taste for blood and they saw an opportunity to make Quinn look bad in the eyes of the feminists she usually called allies." as though she didnt create all of this herself with her lying and scheming. Ive said it before and lll say it again... if you have to depend on trading sex to advance in the world, whatever it is you're selling just isn't that good to begin with Reply- Like- 5-about an hour ago VOSS WATER IS B------- Jonathan M Osment-☆ Top Commenter . Hollywood Another foolish article. You guys really dont learn do you? This reads as one big confirmation bias Bad Cop Blotter: The Police Aren't So Brave When Someone Has a Weapon Sorry but you are shooting yourselves in the foot with this Reply . Like 6-2 hours ago nachogod12345 (signed in using yahoo) It's a Godlis World: Early Photos of Punk Rock After Dark and go slumming with hipster pseudo Please do your research next time or stick to your strong journalists Reply . Like、 3-10 minutes ago Aaron Davis Works at Buyfagging all the Figures Did the author of this have sex with Quinn or is VICE trolling us again? Reply . Like , 3-57 minutes ago VICE News: Water War: Dry in Detroit CD-i Link Nowhere, Oklahoma The author is a woman herself. Reply-Like- 2. 33 minutes ago Lisa Mauro - Consultant at Alliance Life Sciences Consulting Grou Tim and Eric Tell Us About Their Greatest Fears CD-i Link As if the fact that the author is a woman explains that she wouldn't have had Reply-Like- 2. 17 minutes ago Brian Michael Sfinas-☆ Top Commenter-Boston, Massachusetts sex with Quinn. It is 2014, after all CD-i Link... So, she definitely did have sex with her, then? Someone's from the South. If she's a woman she must be one of the self-loathing ones, as well as anyone else who supports this faux-feminism. Way to make your gender look bad! We Asked a War Correspondent About the Origins of ISIS Reply Like 16 minutes ago View 9 more ▼ Brad Donald-☆ Top Commenter Writer did no research and is just bandwagon onto the smearing of 4chan. Most of the crap he starts out with painting them as the devil is b-------. Just another lying hit piece by vice. No integrity no Ethics and of course no facts from Allegra Ringo Reply . Like- 2-12 minutes ago How to Get Into Sketchy Sports Betting Brad Donald-☆ Top Commenter Might as well just claim they are terrorist as well while your at it Allegra Ringo. This is MSNBC/FOX tier reporting. Go reporting. And just going full blow propagandist hit piece and smearing people unfairly and unjustly Reply Like 6 minutes ago The Wor Ice Bucket Challenge ls the People Criticizing It on hav rds and ethics in your Brad Donald-☆ Top Commenter You know what maybe its worse. Maybe Allegra Ringo did do research and decided to What's Behind the Mysterious Drop in Teen Pregnancy? recent revelations ech also a valid possibility Reply Like about a minute ago Hoang Ha Cao University of Sydne You kng t quote of yours about your brai bia its Reply - Like 4 minu Kenny Stai-☆ Top Commenter-Clarksvil enn one ove how you avo rch Like Carlos Hernadez Rios San Juan, Puerto Rico is ormation eve Reply - Like 1-8 min Dan z Dnch bia Reply - Like 1-3 min Facebook social plugin](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/819/704/01d.png)
![tUnited States HOME VIDEO NEWS MUSIC FASHION PHOTO TRAVEL SPORTS FOOD NSFW MAGAZINE DOS & DON'TS COMMENTS MOST POPULAR 24 comments ▼ Add a comment Brian Michael Sfinas-☆ Top Commenter-Boston, Massachusetts This writer either doesnt do research or supports unethical journalism. Reply-Like- 13-about an hour ago Lisa Mauro Consultant at Alliance Life Sciences Consulting Group It would have been more accurate to say "Quinn made herself look bad in the eyes of the feminists she usually called allies rather than But they'd developed a taste for blood and they saw an opportunity to make Quinn look bad in the eyes of the feminists she usually called allies." as though she didnt create all of this herself with her lying and scheming. Ive said it before and lll say it again... if you have to depend on trading sex to advance in the world, whatever it is you're selling just isn't that good to begin with Reply- Like- 5-about an hour ago VOSS WATER IS B------- Jonathan M Osment-☆ Top Commenter . Hollywood Another foolish article. You guys really dont learn do you? This reads as one big confirmation bias Bad Cop Blotter: The Police Aren't So Brave When Someone Has a Weapon Sorry but you are shooting yourselves in the foot with this Reply . Like 6-2 hours ago nachogod12345 (signed in using yahoo) It's a Godlis World: Early Photos of Punk Rock After Dark and go slumming with hipster pseudo Please do your research next time or stick to your strong journalists Reply . Like、 3-10 minutes ago Aaron Davis Works at Buyfagging all the Figures Did the author of this have sex with Quinn or is VICE trolling us again? Reply . Like , 3-57 minutes ago VICE News: Water War: Dry in Detroit CD-i Link Nowhere, Oklahoma The author is a woman herself. Reply-Like- 2. 33 minutes ago Lisa Mauro - Consultant at Alliance Life Sciences Consulting Grou Tim and Eric Tell Us About Their Greatest Fears CD-i Link As if the fact that the author is a woman explains that she wouldn't have had Reply-Like- 2. 17 minutes ago Brian Michael Sfinas-☆ Top Commenter-Boston, Massachusetts sex with Quinn. It is 2014, after all CD-i Link... So, she definitely did have sex with her, then? Someone's from the South. If she's a woman she must be one of the self-loathing ones, as well as anyone else who supports this faux-feminism. Way to make your gender look bad! We Asked a War Correspondent About the Origins of ISIS Reply Like 16 minutes ago View 9 more ▼ Brad Donald-☆ Top Commenter Writer did no research and is just bandwagon onto the smearing of 4chan. Most of the crap he starts out with painting them as the devil is b-------. Just another lying hit piece by vice. No integrity no Ethics and of course no facts from Allegra Ringo Reply . Like- 2-12 minutes ago How to Get Into Sketchy Sports Betting Brad Donald-☆ Top Commenter Might as well just claim they are terrorist as well while your at it Allegra Ringo. This is MSNBC/FOX tier reporting. Go reporting. And just going full blow propagandist hit piece and smearing people unfairly and unjustly Reply Like 6 minutes ago The Wor Ice Bucket Challenge ls the People Criticizing It on hav rds and ethics in your Brad Donald-☆ Top Commenter You know what maybe its worse. Maybe Allegra Ringo did do research and decided to What's Behind the Mysterious Drop in Teen Pregnancy? recent revelations ech also a valid possibility Reply Like about a minute ago Hoang Ha Cao University of Sydne You kng t quote of yours about your brai bia its Reply - Like 4 minu Kenny Stai-☆ Top Commenter-Clarksvil enn one ove how you avo rch Like Carlos Hernadez Rios San Juan, Puerto Rico is ormation eve Reply - Like 1-8 min Dan z Dnch bia Reply - Like 1-3 min Facebook social plugin](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/819/704/01d.png)
Zoë Quinn
devin faraci being a dick,this time proof directly from his twitter
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Devin faraci being a dick,good thing Internet aristocraft saved this
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Zoë Quinn
Patrick Klepek - Zoe Quinn and general bias
![Patrick Klepek - News Editor at Giant Bomb Part 1- Patrick's PAX Talk April 2014 In a talk mainly focussed oncyber bulying Patrick brings up an example here several people on Twitter voiced their con- cern about nazi-like imagery found in Viambeer's latest title I have a question about Luftrausers: is there some political point to playing as nazis or is it supposed to be funny? FAX East 2014 Why Intemet Jenks Arent Going to Win, And You Can Help so luftrausers as a jew, what offends me is the aesthetic as a game designer, what offends me is the absence of critical distance from it. Warning: For those interested in watching this talk , Patrick mentions a m려or MGS Ground Zeroes plot pont酵about 18:15, 18:23. Relevant-Luftrausers. information at Patrick Kiepek's statement in the video14-50 to-16:30 … The two of them thoughtfully explained their position on Twitter. This is criticism, and in tact it is well articulated criticism. So even though Fm not jewish...and so even though Idon't have much of aproblem with the imagery in Luftrausers: Irespect imins and Dubbin are coming at this from a very different ife perspective, I beleve scientists call this empathy, but they're stil' looking into And they're not asking viambeer to change the way Luftrausers looks, they're only raising questions about wheter its aesthetics could leverage nazi imagery in a way that's glessed ever, because the game is really damn fun LJ And Vlambeer didn't have to respond to this, but they in fact did They wrote an extremely long blog post Here's the excerpt that stood out to me We de have to occept that or gome culd moke some people uncomfortable. We're extremely sodobout thet, and we sincerely apologise for that discomfort. The fact ls that no interpretation of a game is wrong When you create something you leave certain implications of what you're making we accept there'sno wrong interpretation of a work, e also have to accept that some of those inter pretations.could not be along the lines af what ww 're trying to create It is unlikely that Luftrausers will undergo any major aesthetik change as a resultofwhat Simins and Dubbin said, but the con clusions ofthis exchange brings a better understanding of what Viambeer wanted to do by creating Luftrausers Noone has to agree with either side but our understanding of Luftrausers place in gaming culture place was deepend as aresult of acritical ex- change where no one toldeach ather to screw off Everyone won and we understood the game just alittle bit better. Part 2 -Patrick's News Coverage Of Dead Island Riptide Limited Edition January 2013 Deep Silver announces Dead Island Riptide's special edition contents, The box includesa female zombie torso. Does Patrick give Deep Slver the benet of the doubt he isgeing togive Eight Women, Eight Responses, and One Dead Island Riptide Statue by Patrick Klepek on Jammary 36.3013 A collection of reactions to last week's questionsble marketing tactio from, variety of women in the video me industry. Dead Island Riptide Offers Up Bikini-Laden Statue, Publisher Quickly hy Patrick epek on Isuary 16,3013 Unclear the bundle In question will still be sold, howevcr. TRIPTIDE Note: Compare the aggresive and negative language used in this news piece com pared to Patrick's fairexplanation af passible cffense caused by Luftrausers. An apolo- gy by Deep Silverdoesnt seem to be enough while Viambeer "didn't have torespond to potentlally offensive content in Luftbrausers Nate: The second article features statements by women in the video game industry the female chest st omitted these because this is Klepek Part 3-Back to Patrick's Luftrausers Coverage April 2014 Considering the amount of news coverage Dead Island's limited trovesial posts on GiantBomb's official website received, did Vlambeer's Luftrausers alsorecelvecon Patrick Klepek Will Now Take Your Calls Dldn't mean to write about Luftrausers aesthetic convo between Vlambeer @robdubbin @ElizSimins, but someone asked. patrickklepek tumblr.com/post sonaltebouthe was writen before the y. This is lk and hini pretty calm and collected content Part 4-Gaming News or Game Developer News? Let's take a look at other gaming related coverage by Patrick Kepek. Bombin' the A.M With Zoe Quinn Patrick Klepek Will Now Take Your Calls The designer behird Depression Quest. whkh Noter Releasing one game on Steam seems to be enough reason to be inwited toa one hour show, and speak at a collaborative panel at PAX with Patrick Note: Patrick Klepek seems to be more interested incovering the personal life of an indie developerwith one released game than writing video game Patrick Klepek Will Now Take Your Calls With Note: Shertly aheavily delending sonal tumb, Patick invites VMambeers Rami Ismail to hiá one hourshow to "talk about his worldly travels and helping grow small communities Luftrausers visul style on his per- Note: Patrick's tumble followers have to romind him thathe's writing for a gaming website and nota website that covers game developers personal Hains Is Klepek's news and indie title coverage fair and unbiased? You be the judge](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/819/683/d1e.png)
![Patrick Klepek - News Editor at Giant Bomb Part 1- Patrick's PAX Talk April 2014 In a talk mainly focussed oncyber bulying Patrick brings up an example here several people on Twitter voiced their con- cern about nazi-like imagery found in Viambeer's latest title I have a question about Luftrausers: is there some political point to playing as nazis or is it supposed to be funny? FAX East 2014 Why Intemet Jenks Arent Going to Win, And You Can Help so luftrausers as a jew, what offends me is the aesthetic as a game designer, what offends me is the absence of critical distance from it. Warning: For those interested in watching this talk , Patrick mentions a m려or MGS Ground Zeroes plot pont酵about 18:15, 18:23. Relevant-Luftrausers. information at Patrick Kiepek's statement in the video14-50 to-16:30 … The two of them thoughtfully explained their position on Twitter. This is criticism, and in tact it is well articulated criticism. So even though Fm not jewish...and so even though Idon't have much of aproblem with the imagery in Luftrausers: Irespect imins and Dubbin are coming at this from a very different ife perspective, I beleve scientists call this empathy, but they're stil' looking into And they're not asking viambeer to change the way Luftrausers looks, they're only raising questions about wheter its aesthetics could leverage nazi imagery in a way that's glessed ever, because the game is really damn fun LJ And Vlambeer didn't have to respond to this, but they in fact did They wrote an extremely long blog post Here's the excerpt that stood out to me We de have to occept that or gome culd moke some people uncomfortable. We're extremely sodobout thet, and we sincerely apologise for that discomfort. The fact ls that no interpretation of a game is wrong When you create something you leave certain implications of what you're making we accept there'sno wrong interpretation of a work, e also have to accept that some of those inter pretations.could not be along the lines af what ww 're trying to create It is unlikely that Luftrausers will undergo any major aesthetik change as a resultofwhat Simins and Dubbin said, but the con clusions ofthis exchange brings a better understanding of what Viambeer wanted to do by creating Luftrausers Noone has to agree with either side but our understanding of Luftrausers place in gaming culture place was deepend as aresult of acritical ex- change where no one toldeach ather to screw off Everyone won and we understood the game just alittle bit better. Part 2 -Patrick's News Coverage Of Dead Island Riptide Limited Edition January 2013 Deep Silver announces Dead Island Riptide's special edition contents, The box includesa female zombie torso. Does Patrick give Deep Slver the benet of the doubt he isgeing togive Eight Women, Eight Responses, and One Dead Island Riptide Statue by Patrick Klepek on Jammary 36.3013 A collection of reactions to last week's questionsble marketing tactio from, variety of women in the video me industry. Dead Island Riptide Offers Up Bikini-Laden Statue, Publisher Quickly hy Patrick epek on Isuary 16,3013 Unclear the bundle In question will still be sold, howevcr. TRIPTIDE Note: Compare the aggresive and negative language used in this news piece com pared to Patrick's fairexplanation af passible cffense caused by Luftrausers. An apolo- gy by Deep Silverdoesnt seem to be enough while Viambeer "didn't have torespond to potentlally offensive content in Luftbrausers Nate: The second article features statements by women in the video game industry the female chest st omitted these because this is Klepek Part 3-Back to Patrick's Luftrausers Coverage April 2014 Considering the amount of news coverage Dead Island's limited trovesial posts on GiantBomb's official website received, did Vlambeer's Luftrausers alsorecelvecon Patrick Klepek Will Now Take Your Calls Dldn't mean to write about Luftrausers aesthetic convo between Vlambeer @robdubbin @ElizSimins, but someone asked. patrickklepek tumblr.com/post sonaltebouthe was writen before the y. This is lk and hini pretty calm and collected content Part 4-Gaming News or Game Developer News? Let's take a look at other gaming related coverage by Patrick Kepek. Bombin' the A.M With Zoe Quinn Patrick Klepek Will Now Take Your Calls The designer behird Depression Quest. whkh Noter Releasing one game on Steam seems to be enough reason to be inwited toa one hour show, and speak at a collaborative panel at PAX with Patrick Note: Patrick Klepek seems to be more interested incovering the personal life of an indie developerwith one released game than writing video game Patrick Klepek Will Now Take Your Calls With Note: Shertly aheavily delending sonal tumb, Patick invites VMambeers Rami Ismail to hiá one hourshow to "talk about his worldly travels and helping grow small communities Luftrausers visul style on his per- Note: Patrick's tumble followers have to romind him thathe's writing for a gaming website and nota website that covers game developers personal Hains Is Klepek's news and indie title coverage fair and unbiased? You be the judge](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/819/683/d1e.png)
Zoë Quinn
zoein4chanorshopped?
![Only this one will actually likely have sex with them. Anonymous 08/27/14(Wed)01:15:44 No.259972625 259971961 >delete Anonymous 08/27/14(Wed)01:10:53 No 259971961 >>259972101>>259972236 >>259972342 259972625: File: Zoe.png (16 KB, 609x279) Hi Zoe. Zoë 'GRANOS' Quinn @TheQuinnspiracy I wanna hide in someone's basement for a week after pax, dnnk whiskey and chainsmoke and finish the first draft of Camp's Not Dead 31 FAVORITES RETWEETS FA 26 Aug 2014-via Twitter Embed this Tweet Reply Delete ★ Favorite I hope zoe doesnt have her computer in the basement.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/819/681/a0f.png)
![Only this one will actually likely have sex with them. Anonymous 08/27/14(Wed)01:15:44 No.259972625 259971961 >delete Anonymous 08/27/14(Wed)01:10:53 No 259971961 >>259972101>>259972236 >>259972342 259972625: File: Zoe.png (16 KB, 609x279) Hi Zoe. Zoë 'GRANOS' Quinn @TheQuinnspiracy I wanna hide in someone's basement for a week after pax, dnnk whiskey and chainsmoke and finish the first draft of Camp's Not Dead 31 FAVORITES RETWEETS FA 26 Aug 2014-via Twitter Embed this Tweet Reply Delete ★ Favorite I hope zoe doesnt have her computer in the basement.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/819/681/a0f.png)
Zoë Quinn
oyvey
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Zoë Quinn
canteven
![ScottShuffledHisFeet @bombsfall 4h "everyone realizes that this misogynerd-culture thing is inherently rightwing" week continues with adam baldwin stepping up to the plate Expand Andrew Todd gmistertodd-4h Hey @adambaldwin, any other circumstances under which you think it's Ok to promote the theft and sharing of someone's private information? Expand F--- NO Video Games @EffNOVideoGames 4h -Hey @josswhedon, glad to hear about your support of @femfreq. Any plans to condemn @AdamBaldwin's harassment of a game developer? Expand Casey @Raedances 4h It's nice that @josswhedon supports @femfreq, but it would be nicer if he'd call out Adam Baldwin for harassing @TheQuinnspiracy Expand josh lewis @thejoshl 4h How you know you're on the wrong side of a social issue: Adam Baldwin agrees with you Expand Ron Marz @ronmarz 5h Kinda baffled that anyone pays any attention to anything Adam Baldwin has to Expand Sterling @JimSterling 5h I'd hate to have Adam Baldwin on my side of any debate. I bet he doesn't even stand with Ganondorf. #IStandWithGanondorf Expand Tim Doyle @NakatomiTim 10m Oh god, AdamBaldwin, please just stop talking Expand Reply Retweet ★ Favorite More わReply t: Retweet * Favorite More raptor noises*1CanadianGamer 4m @michaelbay Adam Baldwin is apparently on YOUR tv s---, so please kick him off for the good of humanity](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/819/675/d76.jpg)
![ScottShuffledHisFeet @bombsfall 4h "everyone realizes that this misogynerd-culture thing is inherently rightwing" week continues with adam baldwin stepping up to the plate Expand Andrew Todd gmistertodd-4h Hey @adambaldwin, any other circumstances under which you think it's Ok to promote the theft and sharing of someone's private information? Expand F--- NO Video Games @EffNOVideoGames 4h -Hey @josswhedon, glad to hear about your support of @femfreq. Any plans to condemn @AdamBaldwin's harassment of a game developer? Expand Casey @Raedances 4h It's nice that @josswhedon supports @femfreq, but it would be nicer if he'd call out Adam Baldwin for harassing @TheQuinnspiracy Expand josh lewis @thejoshl 4h How you know you're on the wrong side of a social issue: Adam Baldwin agrees with you Expand Ron Marz @ronmarz 5h Kinda baffled that anyone pays any attention to anything Adam Baldwin has to Expand Sterling @JimSterling 5h I'd hate to have Adam Baldwin on my side of any debate. I bet he doesn't even stand with Ganondorf. #IStandWithGanondorf Expand Tim Doyle @NakatomiTim 10m Oh god, AdamBaldwin, please just stop talking Expand Reply Retweet ★ Favorite More わReply t: Retweet * Favorite More raptor noises*1CanadianGamer 4m @michaelbay Adam Baldwin is apparently on YOUR tv s---, so please kick him off for the good of humanity](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/819/675/d76.jpg)
Zoë Quinn
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Zoë Quinn
whelp
![Zoë 'GRANOS' Quinn @TheQuinnspiracy 7h Cool. @AdamBaldwin is promoting videos that help circulate my doxx 410 ★71 Mark Ceb @action_pts Follow @TheQuinnspiracy From a look at @AdamBaldwin 's twitter none of the vidos display thai information. Can you point out the tweets? Reply t Retweet * Favorite More FAVORITE 1:10 AM- 28 Aug 2014](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/819/630/3b3.png)
![Zoë 'GRANOS' Quinn @TheQuinnspiracy 7h Cool. @AdamBaldwin is promoting videos that help circulate my doxx 410 ★71 Mark Ceb @action_pts Follow @TheQuinnspiracy From a look at @AdamBaldwin 's twitter none of the vidos display thai information. Can you point out the tweets? Reply t Retweet * Favorite More FAVORITE 1:10 AM- 28 Aug 2014](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/819/630/3b3.png)
Zoë Quinn
fishbreakdown
![PHIL FISH @PHIL FISH-4 Min. reminder that i've left videogames behind. i have nothing to do with you people NOTHING. わ t3 11 ★26 PHIL FISH @PHIL_FISH 7 Min. just absolutely disgusting. f------ youtubers わ£711 *19 여 PHIL FISH @PHIL FISH 9 Min DCMA takedown? really @Totalbiscuit? that's your main takeaway?! h--------! you're f------ NASTY. £713 *27 TotalBiscuit @Totalbiscuit a gross nerd and a youtuber PHIL FISH @PHIL FISH- 9 Min just how look at this gross f------ b------- twitlonger.com /show/n_1s4nmrl Run off to the USA s youtube.com/cynicalbrit PHIL FISH @PHIL _FISH -13 Min grosssssSS Joined October 2008 235 *15 PHIL FISH @PHIL FISH-13 Min. on top of being a YOUTUBER eeeewwww t313 *21 PHIL FISH @PHIL FISH 13 Min totalbiscuit is a gross nerd わ £745 *70](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/819/627/a1e.jpg)
![PHIL FISH @PHIL FISH-4 Min. reminder that i've left videogames behind. i have nothing to do with you people NOTHING. わ t3 11 ★26 PHIL FISH @PHIL_FISH 7 Min. just absolutely disgusting. f------ youtubers わ£711 *19 여 PHIL FISH @PHIL FISH 9 Min DCMA takedown? really @Totalbiscuit? that's your main takeaway?! h--------! you're f------ NASTY. £713 *27 TotalBiscuit @Totalbiscuit a gross nerd and a youtuber PHIL FISH @PHIL FISH- 9 Min just how look at this gross f------ b------- twitlonger.com /show/n_1s4nmrl Run off to the USA s youtube.com/cynicalbrit PHIL FISH @PHIL _FISH -13 Min grosssssSS Joined October 2008 235 *15 PHIL FISH @PHIL FISH-13 Min. on top of being a YOUTUBER eeeewwww t313 *21 PHIL FISH @PHIL FISH 13 Min totalbiscuit is a gross nerd わ £745 *70](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/819/627/a1e.jpg)
Zoë Quinn