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If you're against AI art, do not fight it with copyright infringment

@Majoraz 4 days ago (edited) This was a fun video, and I dig the attempt to educate about the issues with Al art, but like many videos it doesn't explain and even misrepresents how copyright, intellectual property, and fair use actually works, and I think that's leading to misunderstandings about stuff like if the Al is "stealing" or the role of "creativity" in these debates. For context, I'm not an Al guy (in fact I do worry that corporations may undercut artists with it), but I am somebody invested in Intellectual property law, reform, and have followed cases & legislation for a decade. In particular, I'm worried that in a well intentioned bid to fight Al, artists may encourage legal changes that backfire and open human artists to liability too, not just limiting Al, as there's actually a fairly strong Fair use defense for a lot (but not all) of what Al's are doing, and any precedence set limiting Fair Use or expanding Copyright protection to stop Al might also apply and limit real artists too. Obligatory disclaimer that IANAL and that my comment here is based on US law, for other countries it might be different: For those unaware, the main thing in fair use determination is if the derivative work is "transformative". This is a legal concept that basically is asking is the derivative work is putting enough of a new spin on the original in both/either a literal and abstract sense. This is an IMMENSELY complicated concept, though, and to be honest, it's sort of impossible to cover entirely within Youtube's character limit: If something is transformative is just one aspect of many the courts consider when weighing a fair use defense: There's also Parody claims; there's the "4 pillars" (Purpose of a work, Nature of a work, how much of a work is used, and commercial impact), which a lot of sites act like are the only 4 but as i've explained there's other aspects too; and a whole host of other things. And Judges can and do invent new standards or weigh certain aspects more or less: You can satisfy a lot of requirements and still be infringing, or you can satisfy very little and still be fair use.... BUT, again, if something is transformative is usually the main factor, and this would be 12 pages long otherwise, so that's what i'm focusing on. The video here almost frames Al as almost splicing together bits of existing images, but in reality no actual parts of input images are cut out and pasted together. It's gleaning artistic principals via examine the trends and patterns between the input images, which it uses to develop an algorithm that can apply the things it "learned" to generate new images. This has a VERY strong argument for being transformative: For starters, the actual medium is changing. If you write up a text description of a painting, that's obviously not infringement, and what the Al is doing is even LESS of a adaptation then that: it's merely documenting select principals of it's composition rather then describing the work in totality, and not just from it but thousands of other works, where any one of them is merely a small part of the new whole. If anything it's more akin to saying that a book on lighting and composition would be infringing on the images the author looked at while writing the book, even if the book doesn't actually include the images or even describe them. If course, that's just discussing the Al algorithm itself, not the output images: I think that's more complex: As this entire video demonstrates, you CAN ask Al to generate images of copyrighted characters (like Goku), and that's obviously infringing on DB's copyright. You can also use Al to spruce up or "uncrop" existing images, which would likely be infringing on that image you had it modify: In both cases you can tell what the original character or image was. But if you're having the Al generate a brand new output image without specific copyrighted characters (say "Dragon in a swimming pool", then chances are no one image of a swimming pool or a dragon it used as an input is going to be obvious in the final piece, because it's just 1 of thousands of input images with little individual impact. It may not matter if the entire final image is derived from copyrighted inputs if only tiny bits of any one of them are still recognizable, but i'm admittedly not sure what the precedence is there with, say photobashing cases. I THINK it's just how much of any 1 is used based on what I've found, but I'm not sure. and there may be other factors. In any case, something I AM sure is wrong that both this video and many other people bring up, that the notion that the Al lacking "human creativity" in contrast to an artist looking at references somehow makes it not fair use or transformative. This just isn't true, at least in current law, as far as I know: Certainly, putting a themetically interesting and creative spin on a work can AID a Transformative (or especially Parody) argument when claiming fair use, but it's not a requirement. You do need human input to GET copyright protection, see Naruto v. David Slater (yes, really), but that's a separate thing. Similarly, the fact that Al's don't need to learn and practice also isn't really important in if it's Transformative, and the idea that it can replicate people's art styles also doesn't matter, as Copyright doesn't protect "Style", just specific works or characters, things, etc. This is where I think the risk with fighting Al via infringement claims starts: What if there IS a legal case or law passed changing that, and now creativity or requiring effort/practice IS a requirement in Fair use, or style IS now protected by copyright: Suddenly now you, as a actual, real human artist, might get sued because your art happens to stylistically look similar to somebody else's art. Or somebody making a piece of art that's a derivative work as a human artist now has a higher bar for claiming fair use because they have to prove it's sufficiently creative or high effort. Fair use is already WAY narrower then most people realize, and you of all people mark should know that. (If people are wondering why music Al generators only use royalty free music and care more about copyright, it's because the way copyright works with music is different: Music only has so many notes and the like vs the infinite spectrum of visual color, shapes, etc; so two people happening to make music with similar sections is common, and the case law with music infringement is ALREADY as such that in those cases, you're guilty of infringement often anyways even if it wasn't intentional. We do NOT want that happening with visual art copyright too. There's other ways music copyright is different too, like mandatory licensing) And the same giant corporations people are worried about misuing Al to undercut artists (which, again, is a real concern) would LOO00000OVE to have this happen: It would make it way, way easier for them to go after random people online with Copyright claims and C&D's: Imagine Disney Toei sueing somebody for making original characters that are just done in the Dragon Ball Style despite not actually being DB characters or using any copyrighted DB elements! In general, copyright expansions always benefit big corporations and hurt small creators: The corporations are too big to be sued for violations (such as when Family guy stole some guy's youtube clip then DMCA'd the original), and small creators are too small to fight back when the corporations sue them, even if what the creator did was fair use. Again, mark, you should know this. Of course, it's possible that a court's ruling or a law in an Al case could be worded in such a way that precedence would apply JUST to Al (Again, beyond being transformative, say, the market impact is part of fair use determination, and Al due to it's ease of use and lack of practice/skill is extra disruptive to the art market), but the courts have CONSISTENTLY passed laws and made rulings that hurt smaller artists and benefit corporations: As I explained before, ultimately it doesn't matter how many Fair use principals you do or don't meet, sometimes you win or lose anyways: In practice, how rich and powerful you are often decides things, many times before it even gets to court since big corporations can force settlements or draw cases out and the other side has to give in, or they can lobby for laws to pass. As it applies here, we've already seen the Concept Art Association's anti-Al fundraiser state they want to get the Copyright Alliance industry lobby group Disney etc are a part of to be involved, who want to use anti-Al sentiments to expand copyright. The courts will be WAY more willing to listen to the big corporations at the lobbying table or filing Amicus Briefs then they will small artists. So yeah, that's why I think framing what Al does as "stealing" or talking about how it's "not creative" or "can copy styles" is dangerous: It's well intentioned, but it's framing the issue and presenting arguments that, if they gain legal traction, could be disastrous to the rights of real human artists, as we can't guarantee that a court will rule or a law will be worded in such a way that those limitations would only apply to Al. As for how to combat it instead, I think there should be a push to get the Al companies to agree to stick to Royalty Free images on their own, like how the ESRB was formed without goverment regulation by the Games industry, and that people should just try to keep the precedence in place that Al images don't get their own copyright (which will discourage people from using Al in corporate contexts) without trying to claim the Al or the Al images are infringing. 38 se Reply
@Majoraz 4 days ago (edited) This was a fun video, and I dig the attempt to educate about the issues with Al art, but like many videos it doesn't explain and even misrepresents how copyright, intellectual property, and fair use actually works, and I think that's leading to misunderstandings about stuff like if the Al is "stealing" or the role of "creativity" in these debates. For context, I'm not an Al guy (in fact I do worry that corporations may undercut artists with it), but I am somebody invested in Intellectual property law, reform, and have followed cases & legislation for a decade. In particular, I'm worried that in a well intentioned bid to fight Al, artists may encourage legal changes that backfire and open human artists to liability too, not just limiting Al, as there's actually a fairly strong Fair use defense for a lot (but not all) of what Al's are doing, and any precedence set limiting Fair Use or expanding Copyright protection to stop Al might also apply and limit real artists too. Obligatory disclaimer that IANAL and that my comment here is based on US law, for other countries it might be different: For those unaware, the main thing in fair use determination is if the derivative work is "transformative". This is a legal concept that basically is asking is the derivative work is putting enough of a new spin on the original in both/either a literal and abstract sense. This is an IMMENSELY complicated concept, though, and to be honest, it's sort of impossible to cover entirely within Youtube's character limit: If something is transformative is just one aspect of many the courts consider when weighing a fair use defense: There's also Parody claims; there's the "4 pillars" (Purpose of a work, Nature of a work, how much of a work is used, and commercial impact), which a lot of sites act like are the only 4 but as i've explained there's other aspects too; and a whole host of other things. And Judges can and do invent new standards or weigh certain aspects more or less: You can satisfy a lot of requirements and still be infringing, or you can satisfy very little and still be fair use.... BUT, again, if something is transformative is usually the main factor, and this would be 12 pages long otherwise, so that's what i'm focusing on. The video here almost frames Al as almost splicing together bits of existing images, but in reality no actual parts of input images are cut out and pasted together. It's gleaning artistic principals via examine the trends and patterns between the input images, which it uses to develop an algorithm that can apply the things it "learned" to generate new images. This has a VERY strong argument for being transformative: For starters, the actual medium is changing. If you write up a text description of a painting, that's obviously not infringement, and what the Al is doing is even LESS of a adaptation then that: it's merely documenting select principals of it's composition rather then describing the work in totality, and not just from it but thousands of other works, where any one of them is merely a small part of the new whole. If anything it's more akin to saying that a book on lighting and composition would be infringing on the images the author looked at while writing the book, even if the book doesn't actually include the images or even describe them. If course, that's just discussing the Al algorithm itself, not the output images: I think that's more complex: As this entire video demonstrates, you CAN ask Al to generate images of copyrighted characters (like Goku), and that's obviously infringing on DB's copyright. You can also use Al to spruce up or "uncrop" existing images, which would likely be infringing on that image you had it modify: In both cases you can tell what the original character or image was. But if you're having the Al generate a brand new output image without specific copyrighted characters (say "Dragon in a swimming pool", then chances are no one image of a swimming pool or a dragon it used as an input is going to be obvious in the final piece, because it's just 1 of thousands of input images with little individual impact. It may not matter if the entire final image is derived from copyrighted inputs if only tiny bits of any one of them are still recognizable, but i'm admittedly not sure what the precedence is there with, say photobashing cases. I THINK it's just how much of any 1 is used based on what I've found, but I'm not sure. and there may be other factors. In any case, something I AM sure is wrong that both this video and many other people bring up, that the notion that the Al lacking "human creativity" in contrast to an artist looking at references somehow makes it not fair use or transformative. This just isn't true, at least in current law, as far as I know: Certainly, putting a themetically interesting and creative spin on a work can AID a Transformative (or especially Parody) argument when claiming fair use, but it's not a requirement. You do need human input to GET copyright protection, see Naruto v. David Slater (yes, really), but that's a separate thing. Similarly, the fact that Al's don't need to learn and practice also isn't really important in if it's Transformative, and the idea that it can replicate people's art styles also doesn't matter, as Copyright doesn't protect "Style", just specific works or characters, things, etc. This is where I think the risk with fighting Al via infringement claims starts: What if there IS a legal case or law passed changing that, and now creativity or requiring effort/practice IS a requirement in Fair use, or style IS now protected by copyright: Suddenly now you, as a actual, real human artist, might get sued because your art happens to stylistically look similar to somebody else's art. Or somebody making a piece of art that's a derivative work as a human artist now has a higher bar for claiming fair use because they have to prove it's sufficiently creative or high effort. Fair use is already WAY narrower then most people realize, and you of all people mark should know that. (If people are wondering why music Al generators only use royalty free music and care more about copyright, it's because the way copyright works with music is different: Music only has so many notes and the like vs the infinite spectrum of visual color, shapes, etc; so two people happening to make music with similar sections is common, and the case law with music infringement is ALREADY as such that in those cases, you're guilty of infringement often anyways even if it wasn't intentional. We do NOT want that happening with visual art copyright too. There's other ways music copyright is different too, like mandatory licensing) And the same giant corporations people are worried about misuing Al to undercut artists (which, again, is a real concern) would LOO00000OVE to have this happen: It would make it way, way easier for them to go after random people online with Copyright claims and C&D's: Imagine Disney Toei sueing somebody for making original characters that are just done in the Dragon Ball Style despite not actually being DB characters or using any copyrighted DB elements! In general, copyright expansions always benefit big corporations and hurt small creators: The corporations are too big to be sued for violations (such as when Family guy stole some guy's youtube clip then DMCA'd the original), and small creators are too small to fight back when the corporations sue them, even if what the creator did was fair use. Again, mark, you should know this. Of course, it's possible that a court's ruling or a law in an Al case could be worded in such a way that precedence would apply JUST to Al (Again, beyond being transformative, say, the market impact is part of fair use determination, and Al due to it's ease of use and lack of practice/skill is extra disruptive to the art market), but the courts have CONSISTENTLY passed laws and made rulings that hurt smaller artists and benefit corporations: As I explained before, ultimately it doesn't matter how many Fair use principals you do or don't meet, sometimes you win or lose anyways: In practice, how rich and powerful you are often decides things, many times before it even gets to court since big corporations can force settlements or draw cases out and the other side has to give in, or they can lobby for laws to pass. As it applies here, we've already seen the Concept Art Association's anti-Al fundraiser state they want to get the Copyright Alliance industry lobby group Disney etc are a part of to be involved, who want to use anti-Al sentiments to expand copyright. The courts will be WAY more willing to listen to the big corporations at the lobbying table or filing Amicus Briefs then they will small artists. So yeah, that's why I think framing what Al does as "stealing" or talking about how it's "not creative" or "can copy styles" is dangerous: It's well intentioned, but it's framing the issue and presenting arguments that, if they gain legal traction, could be disastrous to the rights of real human artists, as we can't guarantee that a court will rule or a law will be worded in such a way that those limitations would only apply to Al. As for how to combat it instead, I think there should be a push to get the Al companies to agree to stick to Royalty Free images on their own, like how the ESRB was formed without goverment regulation by the Games industry, and that people should just try to keep the precedence in place that Al images don't get their own copyright (which will discourage people from using Al in corporate contexts) without trying to claim the Al or the Al images are infringing. 38 se Reply

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Starter pack

YOUTUBE VIDEO AGAINST AI ART STARTER PACK somber and pretentious tone "sampling" +000025) -400 Amanding an attachmen same debunked examples of "art theft "collage" A! NOTO A GENERATED MAGES "we deserve to be angry" timelapse of someone drawing with a pencil 8 "I dont understand how any of this works but let me pretend to anyway"
YOUTUBE VIDEO AGAINST AI ART STARTER PACK somber and pretentious tone "sampling" +000025) -400 Amanding an attachmen same debunked examples of "art theft "collage" A! NOTO A GENERATED MAGES "we deserve to be angry" timelapse of someone drawing with a pencil 8 "I dont understand how any of this works but let me pretend to anyway"

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Soulless AI art

Truly epic and astounding artwork, masterpiece, such WOW, amazing landscape, beautiful, realistic, highly detailed, (Stolen Art:1.1), (please steal from struggling artist :1.2), consume the soul (ugly), (not stolen:1.1), soul, img2img Inpaint Batch img2img DANN Save H B D 49 33/75 PANIN Zip Interrogate CLIP Interrogate DeepBooru Send to img2img Style 1 None Generate Send to inpaint Style 2 None X Send to extras
Truly epic and astounding artwork, masterpiece, such WOW, amazing landscape, beautiful, realistic, highly detailed, (Stolen Art:1.1), (please steal from struggling artist :1.2), consume the soul (ugly), (not stolen:1.1), soul, img2img Inpaint Batch img2img DANN Save H B D 49 33/75 PANIN Zip Interrogate CLIP Interrogate DeepBooru Send to img2img Style 1 None Generate Send to inpaint Style 2 None X Send to extras

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certain people's jobs matter more than others

Artists losing their jobs to new tech The public Typists Lawyers & paralegals Taxi & delivery drivers Calligraphers Farmhands Data entry workers Hand sewists Travel agents
Artists losing their jobs to new tech The public Typists Lawyers & paralegals Taxi & delivery drivers Calligraphers Farmhands Data entry workers Hand sewists Travel agents

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What it's really about

93 GRTVA n SUPPORT HUMAN ARTISTS Protecting Artists from Al Technologies We are not anti-Al! We just want to stop the stealing of art! Updating laws to include careful and specific use cases for AI/ML technology in entertainment industries, i.e. ensuring no more than a small percentage of the creative workforce is AI/ML models or similar protections. 16 16:11 fo 2/1
93 GRTVA n SUPPORT HUMAN ARTISTS Protecting Artists from Al Technologies We are not anti-Al! We just want to stop the stealing of art! Updating laws to include careful and specific use cases for AI/ML technology in entertainment industries, i.e. ensuring no more than a small percentage of the creative workforce is AI/ML models or similar protections. 16 16:11 fo 2/1

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Picture vs shit

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Early AI art in a nutshell

6 Stable Diffusion @Diffusion Pics Al Art How to make everyone think the photo of you someone took was generated by A.I #AIArt #Stable Diffusion2 / #StableDiffusion #DreamStudio 7:16 PM. Jan 12, 2023 8,775 Views 25 Retweets 4 Quote Tweets 200 Likes
6 Stable Diffusion @Diffusion Pics Al Art How to make everyone think the photo of you someone took was generated by A.I #AIArt #Stable Diffusion2 / #StableDiffusion #DreamStudio 7:16 PM. Jan 12, 2023 8,775 Views 25 Retweets 4 Quote Tweets 200 Likes

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You will produce and share your images, but we do not grant you the rank of artist.
You will produce and share your images, but we do not grant you the rank of artist.

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amateur artists professional artists people who think ai art makes them an artist

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Recognizing the works of the Abominable Intelligence

Erkhyan @erkhyan@yiff.l.... 12 hours ago It's funny how recognizing Al art nowadays is just the same old rules as recognizing the fae in old tales. "Count the fingers, count the knuckles, count the teeth, check the shadows..." ... and under NO circumstances should you make deals with their kind. FUN FACT : self - driving cars can be trapped " using a ring of salt. If laid out correctly, the car's visual processing Ai will interpret the ring as no entry ' markings on the roadway and just sit there like an idiot LMAO
Erkhyan @erkhyan@yiff.l.... 12 hours ago It's funny how recognizing Al art nowadays is just the same old rules as recognizing the fae in old tales. "Count the fingers, count the knuckles, count the teeth, check the shadows..." ... and under NO circumstances should you make deals with their kind. FUN FACT : self - driving cars can be trapped " using a ring of salt. If laid out correctly, the car's visual processing Ai will interpret the ring as no entry ' markings on the roadway and just sit there like an idiot LMAO

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Product vs. Passion

AI USERS FREE CASH Get $300 PER DAY For FREE From Al Art (New Method) 295K views 3 weeks ago Earnings $6,988 Personal balance I Tried Selling Al Art For 30 Days 111K views 1 month ago AI MADE THIS 12:06 . $533,487 SELLING A.I ART LEGALLY! Payment Dob buton C $$$ Earn $500 A Day For FREE Selling Al Art LEGALLY Money Online NO SKILLS NEEDED! $5.494.76 8:05 SIMPLE! $5,000 A Month With Al Art 23K views Streamed 10 days ago 17:16 35:53 DIGITAL ARTISTS HOW LEARN DIGITAL PAINTING Begi 13:12 How to Learn Digital Painting (Beginners) 1.8M views - 2 years ago Sinix Design Painting FUNDAMENTALS Digital Painting Lessons mjoygoddess too late no style no connections unremarkable Painting Fundamentals 9:49 Design Cinema - EP 2-Shot Setup Part 01 7:41 VIEW FULL PLAYLIST too old no support O 214 = FAIL. too young not good enough too slow you just suck. no talent boring if you're an artist about to give up on their dreams, watch this first. 311K views 4 months ago Adam Duff LUCIDPIXUL FASTER? FAILURE + DETERMINATION - never stop never stopping 28K views 2 weeks ago 23:35 MO 19:11
AI USERS FREE CASH Get $300 PER DAY For FREE From Al Art (New Method) 295K views 3 weeks ago Earnings $6,988 Personal balance I Tried Selling Al Art For 30 Days 111K views 1 month ago AI MADE THIS 12:06 . $533,487 SELLING A.I ART LEGALLY! Payment Dob buton C $$$ Earn $500 A Day For FREE Selling Al Art LEGALLY Money Online NO SKILLS NEEDED! $5.494.76 8:05 SIMPLE! $5,000 A Month With Al Art 23K views Streamed 10 days ago 17:16 35:53 DIGITAL ARTISTS HOW LEARN DIGITAL PAINTING Begi 13:12 How to Learn Digital Painting (Beginners) 1.8M views - 2 years ago Sinix Design Painting FUNDAMENTALS Digital Painting Lessons mjoygoddess too late no style no connections unremarkable Painting Fundamentals 9:49 Design Cinema - EP 2-Shot Setup Part 01 7:41 VIEW FULL PLAYLIST too old no support O 214 = FAIL. too young not good enough too slow you just suck. no talent boring if you're an artist about to give up on their dreams, watch this first. 311K views 4 months ago Adam Duff LUCIDPIXUL FASTER? FAILURE + DETERMINATION - never stop never stopping 28K views 2 weeks ago 23:35 MO 19:11

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Reddit Mods true opinion on true Art

Off How about this one? I call it: Bold and Brash. More like: Belongs in the Trash.
Off How about this one? I call it: Bold and Brash. More like: Belongs in the Trash.

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Battle of early models

Conv-Decony VAE Fully-Conn VAE alignDRAW LAPGAN A group of people walk on a beach with surf boards.
Conv-Decony VAE Fully-Conn VAE alignDRAW LAPGAN A group of people walk on a beach with surf boards.

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AlignDRAW beats them all!

A stop sign is flying in A herd of elephants fly- blue skies. ing in the blue skies. A toilet seat sits open in A person skiing on sand the grass field. clad vast desert.
A stop sign is flying in A herd of elephants fly- blue skies. ing in the blue skies. A toilet seat sits open in A person skiing on sand the grass field. clad vast desert.

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Original Character Design Inspired by AI Art

NOVEL AI GENERATIONS GONIDA 5 W INSPIRED ART
NOVEL AI GENERATIONS GONIDA 5 W INSPIRED ART

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Whether you're pro or anti-AI, you don't like the mod.

Posted by u/benmoranartist 7 days ago 219 A muse in Warzone, me, Photoshop, 2022 Rule 6 Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/Art. Moderators remove posts from feeds for a variety of reasons, including keeping communities safe, civil, and true to their purpose. r/Art Complain about the permanent ban!!: expand all collapse all [-] to /r/Art sent an hour ago I'm the artist of a painting "A muse in Warzone". I'm here for complaining about the unfair ban. I can give you guys the process or the PSD file of that painting. I'm not using any AI supported and that punishment is not right. Sorry for my bad English and thank you for your time! Here is my portfolio. Take a look: https://www.deviantart.com/benmoranartist Permalink [-] subreddit message via /r/Art [M] sent an hour ago I don't believe you. Even if you did "paint" it yourself, it's so obviously an AI-prompted design that it doesn't matter. If you really are a "serious" artist, then you need to find a different style, because A) no one is going to believe when you say it's not AI, and B) the AI can do better in seconds what might take you hours. Sorry, it's the way of the world. Permalink Delete Report Block Subreddit Mark Unread [-] subreddit message via /r/Art [M] sent an hour ago You have been temporarily muted from r/Art. You will not be able to message the moderators of r/Art for 28 days. Permalink Delete Report Block Subreddit Mark Unread
Posted by u/benmoranartist 7 days ago 219 A muse in Warzone, me, Photoshop, 2022 Rule 6 Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/Art. Moderators remove posts from feeds for a variety of reasons, including keeping communities safe, civil, and true to their purpose. r/Art Complain about the permanent ban!!: expand all collapse all [-] to /r/Art sent an hour ago I'm the artist of a painting "A muse in Warzone". I'm here for complaining about the unfair ban. I can give you guys the process or the PSD file of that painting. I'm not using any AI supported and that punishment is not right. Sorry for my bad English and thank you for your time! Here is my portfolio. Take a look: https://www.deviantart.com/benmoranartist Permalink [-] subreddit message via /r/Art [M] sent an hour ago I don't believe you. Even if you did "paint" it yourself, it's so obviously an AI-prompted design that it doesn't matter. If you really are a "serious" artist, then you need to find a different style, because A) no one is going to believe when you say it's not AI, and B) the AI can do better in seconds what might take you hours. Sorry, it's the way of the world. Permalink Delete Report Block Subreddit Mark Unread [-] subreddit message via /r/Art [M] sent an hour ago You have been temporarily muted from r/Art. You will not be able to message the moderators of r/Art for 28 days. Permalink Delete Report Block Subreddit Mark Unread

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Author gets scammed with AI art

← Thread Nife (OPEN 1/1) @Knifesart Author got scammed into thinking they're getting original work, instead they got an Al. A literal instance of artists losing job to a scammer using Al, and commissioners being misled and lied to. your book's me You can not copyright Al generated work And lying about it is absolutely wrong Someone inquired about this on the post with the cover asking if it was Al, and the designer responded to say painted it myself using my iPad. I do use Photoshop on the final image for a few color shifting filters and a sharpening mask then also questioned this saying that it looked like it was Al generated to me, and asked if they could provide the process from sketch to final, because authors would be the ones held accountable they use this cover commercially This designer deleted my comment and blocked me from the group. If that isn't proof of their guilt then...yeah So authors buyers, beware and pay attention to what you are buying Do not be afraid to ask questions Ask for their cover process. And designers who do this shame on you for scamming Cank please, and please don't be offended, but it of this A Thank you @ 1:28 AM - Dec 5, 2022 Ze Ferdi Can I ask please, and please don't be offended, but is any of this Al? Thank you Zoe Perdita 3d Edited 8,672 Retweets 379 Quote Tweets 36.8K Likes Zoe Perdita Author no, I painted it myself using my iPad. I do use Photoshop on the final image for a few color shifting filters and a sharpening mask. 3d 22 ↑ I don't normally post things like this often, but this needs to be said, especially in light of all the Al work coming out: authors/buyers beware. This cover designer (Rainbow Danger Designs) shared a few covers stating they were original illustrations in their cover group. They are even on their website, having been sold at $500. It states that 'It includes the ebook, print wrap and the commercial rights to use the illustration in your book's merch.. You can not copyright Al generated work. And lying about it is absolutely wrong. Someone inquired about this on the post with the cover asking if it was Al, and the designer responded to say, "I painted it myself using my iPad. I do use Photoshop on the final image for a few color shifting filters and a sharpening mask." I then also questioned this, saying that it looked like it was Al generated to me, and asked if they could provide the process from sketch to final, because authors would be the ones held accountable if they use this cover commercially. EST This designer deleted my comment and blocked me from the group. If that isn't proof of their guilt, then... yeah. So authors/buyers, beware and pay attention to what you are buying. Do not be afraid to ask questions. Ask for their cover process. And designers who do this...shame on you for scamming people. Can I ask please, and please don't be offended, but i of this Al? Thank you Zoe Perdita 3d Edited Zoe Perdita Author no, I painted it mysel using my iPad. I do use Photoshop on the final image for a few color shifting filters and a sharpening mask. 3d
← Thread Nife (OPEN 1/1) @Knifesart Author got scammed into thinking they're getting original work, instead they got an Al. A literal instance of artists losing job to a scammer using Al, and commissioners being misled and lied to. your book's me You can not copyright Al generated work And lying about it is absolutely wrong Someone inquired about this on the post with the cover asking if it was Al, and the designer responded to say painted it myself using my iPad. I do use Photoshop on the final image for a few color shifting filters and a sharpening mask then also questioned this saying that it looked like it was Al generated to me, and asked if they could provide the process from sketch to final, because authors would be the ones held accountable they use this cover commercially This designer deleted my comment and blocked me from the group. If that isn't proof of their guilt then...yeah So authors buyers, beware and pay attention to what you are buying Do not be afraid to ask questions Ask for their cover process. And designers who do this shame on you for scamming Cank please, and please don't be offended, but it of this A Thank you @ 1:28 AM - Dec 5, 2022 Ze Ferdi Can I ask please, and please don't be offended, but is any of this Al? Thank you Zoe Perdita 3d Edited 8,672 Retweets 379 Quote Tweets 36.8K Likes Zoe Perdita Author no, I painted it myself using my iPad. I do use Photoshop on the final image for a few color shifting filters and a sharpening mask. 3d 22 ↑ I don't normally post things like this often, but this needs to be said, especially in light of all the Al work coming out: authors/buyers beware. This cover designer (Rainbow Danger Designs) shared a few covers stating they were original illustrations in their cover group. They are even on their website, having been sold at $500. It states that 'It includes the ebook, print wrap and the commercial rights to use the illustration in your book's merch.. You can not copyright Al generated work. And lying about it is absolutely wrong. Someone inquired about this on the post with the cover asking if it was Al, and the designer responded to say, "I painted it myself using my iPad. I do use Photoshop on the final image for a few color shifting filters and a sharpening mask." I then also questioned this, saying that it looked like it was Al generated to me, and asked if they could provide the process from sketch to final, because authors would be the ones held accountable if they use this cover commercially. EST This designer deleted my comment and blocked me from the group. If that isn't proof of their guilt, then... yeah. So authors/buyers, beware and pay attention to what you are buying. Do not be afraid to ask questions. Ask for their cover process. And designers who do this...shame on you for scamming people. Can I ask please, and please don't be offended, but i of this Al? Thank you Zoe Perdita 3d Edited Zoe Perdita Author no, I painted it mysel using my iPad. I do use Photoshop on the final image for a few color shifting filters and a sharpening mask. 3d

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CEO of StabilityAI calls artists "skill segregationists" and "anti-American"

← Thread Logan Preshaw @wickedinsignia This is the CEO of Stability Al. He's pinning artists who simply want to defend their work as "skill segregationists" and fascists. Some prominent Al proponents are doing the same. It's manipulative, ideological and extremely dangerous. Emad Yesterday at 4:40 PM It's very anti American and free speech I wonder if people also didn't see the potential at the start of the first artistic renaissance Emad Yesterday at 4:40 PM It's more fundamental than that we are a visual species and opponents are arguing for skill segregation Emad Yesterday at 4:39 PM You know it's like lower classes shouldn't be allowed to learn to read as writing is the privelege of the elite and they could use it for bad stuff. They would also learn to copy the style of the elite which should be banned 7:40 PM - Jan 2, 2023 Emad Yesterday at 4:38 PM They'd rather keep their monopoly on visual communication 636.7K Views 3,130 Retweets 362 Quote Tweets 11.9K Likes Yes No Logan Preshaw @wickedinsignia - Jan 2 Replying to @wickedinsignia It's also leading to direct harassment towards those who speak up for legislation and regulation of Al. Artists are being individually targeted for harassment because people are beginning to believe that opposing Al in any way is fundamentally evil. George Crudo @GeorgeCrudo - Jan 2 there is now a "DefendingAlArt" subreddit where no debate is allowed and it's a wild place over there. Show this thread 17 StabilityAI sue the anti-art crowd for damages and financiaon Twitter all they want that just makes me want to spite them more. Like that crybaby Sam Yang he constant libel? sed 10 days ago Award Share Save ılı 54.2K 17 1 298 9 7 Logan Preshaw @wickedinsignia - Jan 2 I need to stress this: as 2022. Technology is advancing, and these luddites are worried that they'll get replaced. But with their bad attitude, it's only inevitable. So why feel bad about technological progress 7 t 101 I have more talent in my pinky than you do in your entire body. I'm a software engineer so my talent is in programming and machine learning. Unlike you and your failing artists, we're not going to get replaced by automation. Your profession will, however. If I am a business owner, why would I pay a bunch of artists to create art in two weeks when I can get a model to do it for me in twenty minutes? O 9 1 And for your information, I do know how to create art. I would rather spend my time working on building my up-to-date technological skills than waste time drawing You are definitely a luddite who is scared of progress. Al critics simply desire friction against a tech that has immense disruptive power and isn't currently subject to appropriate regulatory conditions. I have encountered very, very few people who are entirely against Al. ₁30.8K 6 t 125 ♡ 1,402 1 1,716 Logan Preshaw @wickedinsignia - Jan 2 I've also encountered very few artists or art enthusiasts who don't openly share their work, working methods, passion for learning, tips and advice to anyone and everyone that asks. There's not an ounce of truth to what Emad is saying here. 25.3K ♡ 1,300 154 1. Logan Preshaw @wickedinsignia - Jan 2 This man is a hedge-fund manager and venture capital analyst whose company has a $1B valuation. 1 His viewpoints aren't representative of an artist nor Al software developer, they are strategically deceptive and manipulating the landscape to his own benefit. il₁ 27.9K ♡ 1,464 Logan Preshaw @wickedinsignia - Jan 2 Someone whose career is the definition of a wealth-hoarding elite is arguing that artists, who are commonly undervalued and widely associated with starving for their craft, are privileged skill segregationists. No one should have to defend themselves against this garbage. ₁43.3K ↑ O 10 17 302 1,886
← Thread Logan Preshaw @wickedinsignia This is the CEO of Stability Al. He's pinning artists who simply want to defend their work as "skill segregationists" and fascists. Some prominent Al proponents are doing the same. It's manipulative, ideological and extremely dangerous. Emad Yesterday at 4:40 PM It's very anti American and free speech I wonder if people also didn't see the potential at the start of the first artistic renaissance Emad Yesterday at 4:40 PM It's more fundamental than that we are a visual species and opponents are arguing for skill segregation Emad Yesterday at 4:39 PM You know it's like lower classes shouldn't be allowed to learn to read as writing is the privelege of the elite and they could use it for bad stuff. They would also learn to copy the style of the elite which should be banned 7:40 PM - Jan 2, 2023 Emad Yesterday at 4:38 PM They'd rather keep their monopoly on visual communication 636.7K Views 3,130 Retweets 362 Quote Tweets 11.9K Likes Yes No Logan Preshaw @wickedinsignia - Jan 2 Replying to @wickedinsignia It's also leading to direct harassment towards those who speak up for legislation and regulation of Al. Artists are being individually targeted for harassment because people are beginning to believe that opposing Al in any way is fundamentally evil. George Crudo @GeorgeCrudo - Jan 2 there is now a "DefendingAlArt" subreddit where no debate is allowed and it's a wild place over there. Show this thread 17 StabilityAI sue the anti-art crowd for damages and financiaon Twitter all they want that just makes me want to spite them more. Like that crybaby Sam Yang he constant libel? sed 10 days ago Award Share Save ılı 54.2K 17 1 298 9 7 Logan Preshaw @wickedinsignia - Jan 2 I need to stress this: as 2022. Technology is advancing, and these luddites are worried that they'll get replaced. But with their bad attitude, it's only inevitable. So why feel bad about technological progress 7 t 101 I have more talent in my pinky than you do in your entire body. I'm a software engineer so my talent is in programming and machine learning. Unlike you and your failing artists, we're not going to get replaced by automation. Your profession will, however. If I am a business owner, why would I pay a bunch of artists to create art in two weeks when I can get a model to do it for me in twenty minutes? O 9 1 And for your information, I do know how to create art. I would rather spend my time working on building my up-to-date technological skills than waste time drawing You are definitely a luddite who is scared of progress. Al critics simply desire friction against a tech that has immense disruptive power and isn't currently subject to appropriate regulatory conditions. I have encountered very, very few people who are entirely against Al. ₁30.8K 6 t 125 ♡ 1,402 1 1,716 Logan Preshaw @wickedinsignia - Jan 2 I've also encountered very few artists or art enthusiasts who don't openly share their work, working methods, passion for learning, tips and advice to anyone and everyone that asks. There's not an ounce of truth to what Emad is saying here. 25.3K ♡ 1,300 154 1. Logan Preshaw @wickedinsignia - Jan 2 This man is a hedge-fund manager and venture capital analyst whose company has a $1B valuation. 1 His viewpoints aren't representative of an artist nor Al software developer, they are strategically deceptive and manipulating the landscape to his own benefit. il₁ 27.9K ♡ 1,464 Logan Preshaw @wickedinsignia - Jan 2 Someone whose career is the definition of a wealth-hoarding elite is arguing that artists, who are commonly undervalued and widely associated with starving for their craft, are privileged skill segregationists. No one should have to defend themselves against this garbage. ₁43.3K ↑ O 10 17 302 1,886

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Ai Prompter takes hard L from artist they tried to steal from.

Gorm PO @malaphorician The artist I most want to emulate with Midjourney is Tomm Moore, who made the animated movies The Secret of Kells, Song of the Sea and Wolfwalkers. But I can't figure out how to reference his style! Anyone have any advice? Is there a trick I don't know about? 8 Pete Woods, Corrupt Legacy C... Replying to @malaphorician Pick up a pencil and work hard. ₁387 91 22 tomm moore @tommmoore. 6h Replying to @malaphorician or you could learn to draw 7,596 27 42 13 ● Gorm✔✔ @malaphorician 26m . I don't like working hard, and I don't think that's where the value in art is. I think that has more to do with taste, and I'm amazed and grateful to live to see technology that allows a quicker path from idea to expression. And it will only get better ₁31 2 22 2h 366 企 企 ↑ o
Gorm PO @malaphorician The artist I most want to emulate with Midjourney is Tomm Moore, who made the animated movies The Secret of Kells, Song of the Sea and Wolfwalkers. But I can't figure out how to reference his style! Anyone have any advice? Is there a trick I don't know about? 8 Pete Woods, Corrupt Legacy C... Replying to @malaphorician Pick up a pencil and work hard. ₁387 91 22 tomm moore @tommmoore. 6h Replying to @malaphorician or you could learn to draw 7,596 27 42 13 ● Gorm✔✔ @malaphorician 26m . I don't like working hard, and I don't think that's where the value in art is. I think that has more to do with taste, and I'm amazed and grateful to live to see technology that allows a quicker path from idea to expression. And it will only get better ₁31 2 22 2h 366 企 企 ↑ o

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