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File: angsty demon.jpg (76 KB, 1000x1000) 6835692868357000>6835700468357661683578716835812668358402 68358564 Anonymous 09/14/19(Sat)19:42:08 No.68356701 What's the appeal of low fantasy vs high fantasy? Which one do you prefer, and why? Anonymous 09/14/19(Sat)19:56:26 No.68356928 68356942 >>68356701 (OP) Somewhere in the middle, to avoid Dragon Ball Z style shenanigans while also avoiding the drudgery of some autistic shut-in's idea of realism Anonymous 09/14/19(Sat)19:57:19 No.68356942 >68356928 First post best post yet again Anonymous 09/14/19(Sat)21:36:55 No.68358402 File: main jpg (62 KB, 697x422) >>68356701 (OP) that's a good start, kid Anonymous 09/14/19(Sat)20:00:54 No.68357004 68356701 (OP) Depends on your definitions. If you go by old definitions, I find low fantasy can be interesting for doing a kind of earth with twists and turns ideas, while high fantasy is great for showing off entirely different or alien concepts. If you go by new definitions, I think low fantasy is often used as an excuse to be a d-------, and high fantasy is often used as an excuse to not really give a s--- about immersion. Ideally both should have their place whether they be in exploring the trials of man in a world with ogres and trolls, or enjoying the wonderment of discovery among worlds composed of islands that float in an astral sea that one needs a flying ship to access and inevitably getting involved in a far bigger plot after pissing off a big fish with connections to multiple of these lands. 68354885 >>68356454 >68357497>68357547>683576046835811168358139>>68358229>68358390 Anonymous 09/14/19(Sat)15:28:25 No.68353216 File: Bobby chair intelligence.jpg (25 KB, 500x375) Let's be honest, is there anything more pathetic then low fantasy f---? People will commonly attribute "low fantasy" or "low magic/low power" settings as being mature, intelligent, or more meaningful then other types of settings. Not only is this sentiment dripping with the same type of smug, self righteous pretentious energy as "humans only" f---, but it's not even objectively right. Low fantasy is inherently about the struggles of mud people in mud streams, fighting low fantasy alllows for, and so much more. Not only can you have the high stakes, highly lethal sort of adventure in high fantasy (from low level/early characters struggling against the greater forces of the world), but you can grow that scope to soon encompass an entire campaign setting, or yes, even a multiverse to fight for. The ultimate Good and Evil showdown is inherently more memorable and creative then the "slit the enemy warlord's throat while he sleeps" bit of drek that a "clever" low fantasy player might relish as part of his grime simulator. As though over minor causes or Gods that "aren't actually real Imao what a tweest!", they aren't about heroism or overcoming great obstacles. High fantasy allows for everything the most simplistic, anticlimatic solutions somehow improves the game- they do not. You just think they do, because you have zero imagination. That's the rub- low fantasy lovers are luddites for fantasy. Haters of anything not in the familiar and not in the spirit of their own pessimism. Not just about the world at large, but human nature, which is less excusable. What a pathetic excuse for a person, who is both uncapable of and unwilling to suspend their disbelief for one second to experience the sheer bliss of childlike wonder. No, they're too "mature" and "grown up" for that. I can truly say I have nothing but pity for the low fantasytards. Anonymous 09/14/19(Sat)19:25:01 No.68356454 File: E2EA55A2-37FC-403E-947D-F(.jpg (115 KB, 593x647) >>68353216 This! Realismfags and low fantasyfags in a nutshell.

File: angsty demon.jpg (76 KB, 1000x1000) 6835692868357000>6835700468357661683578716835812668358402 68358564 Anonymous 09/14/19(Sat)19:42:08 No.68356701 What's the appeal of low fantasy vs high fantasy? Which one do you prefer, and why? Anonymous 09/14/19(Sat)19:56:26 No.68356928 68356942 >>68356701 (OP) Somewhere in the middle, to avoid Dragon Ball Z style shenanigans while also avoiding the drudgery of some autistic shut-in's idea of realism Anonymous 09/14/19(Sat)19:57:19 No.68356942 >68356928 First post best post yet again Anonymous 09/14/19(Sat)21:36:55 No.68358402 File: main jpg (62 KB, 697x422) >>68356701 (OP) that's a good start, kid Anonymous 09/14/19(Sat)20:00:54 No.68357004 68356701 (OP) Depends on your definitions. If you go by old definitions, I find low fantasy can be interesting for doing a kind of earth with twists and turns ideas, while high fantasy is great for showing off entirely different or alien concepts. If you go by new definitions, I think low fantasy is often used as an excuse to be a d-------, and high fantasy is often used as an excuse to not really give a s--- about immersion. Ideally both should have their place whether they be in exploring the trials of man in a world with ogres and trolls, or enjoying the wonderment of discovery among worlds composed of islands that float in an astral sea that one needs a flying ship to access and inevitably getting involved in a far bigger plot after pissing off a big fish with connections to multiple of these lands. 68354885 >>68356454 >68357497>68357547>683576046835811168358139>>68358229>68358390 Anonymous 09/14/19(Sat)15:28:25 No.68353216 File: Bobby chair intelligence.jpg (25 KB, 500x375) Let's be honest, is there anything more pathetic then low fantasy f---? People will commonly attribute "low fantasy" or "low magic/low power" settings as being mature, intelligent, or more meaningful then other types of settings. Not only is this sentiment dripping with the same type of smug, self righteous pretentious energy as "humans only" f---, but it's not even objectively right. Low fantasy is inherently about the struggles of mud people in mud streams, fighting low fantasy alllows for, and so much more. Not only can you have the high stakes, highly lethal sort of adventure in high fantasy (from low level/early characters struggling against the greater forces of the world), but you can grow that scope to soon encompass an entire campaign setting, or yes, even a multiverse to fight for. The ultimate Good and Evil showdown is inherently more memorable and creative then the "slit the enemy warlord's throat while he sleeps" bit of drek that a "clever" low fantasy player might relish as part of his grime simulator. As though over minor causes or Gods that "aren't actually real Imao what a tweest!", they aren't about heroism or overcoming great obstacles. High fantasy allows for everything the most simplistic, anticlimatic solutions somehow improves the game- they do not. You just think they do, because you have zero imagination. That's the rub- low fantasy lovers are luddites for fantasy. Haters of anything not in the familiar and not in the spirit of their own pessimism. Not just about the world at large, but human nature, which is less excusable. What a pathetic excuse for a person, who is both uncapable of and unwilling to suspend their disbelief for one second to experience the sheer bliss of childlike wonder. No, they're too "mature" and "grown up" for that. I can truly say I have nothing but pity for the low fantasytards. Anonymous 09/14/19(Sat)19:25:01 No.68356454 File: E2EA55A2-37FC-403E-947D-F(.jpg (115 KB, 593x647) >>68353216 This! Realismfags and low fantasyfags in a nutshell.

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File: 1568339555421 webm (1.5 MB, 720x480) 68330850 6833087968330903>68331204>68331388683327346833325268333268 >68333747 >>6833473268334815»68334899>>6833594368335985 Anonymous 09/13/19(Fri)03:56:06 No.68330805 Why is unarmed combat even a thing in rulesets? There's never a situation where you would prefer to be unarmed rather than armed Anonymous 09/13/19(Fri)03:59:07 No.68330850 68330904 >>68330805 (OP) If your PCs are only in situations they'd prefer then you're a s----- DM. Anonymous 09/13/19(Fri)04:01:21 No.68330879 File: CFUapture png (63 KB, 307x295) 68330904 >>68330805 (OP) >"Hey prison guard, I know I'm a prisoner, but I'd prefer to be armed instead of unarmed, so I'll take my sword with me." "Oh I've been disarmed, hang on mate, ive gotta pick up my sword, I mean why would i want to fight unarmed right?" Gee I f------ wonder what use unarmed combat would be. 2 Anonymous 09/13/19(Fri)04:02:21 No.68330903 >>68330805 (OP) Unarmed is useful in every system but GURPS 6833095568330962>683309716833098568330994 >6833101168331046 6833110368331171 6833120468331378 6833146968332734>68333193>>6833323768333252>68333266 >68334721 Anonymous 09/13/19(Fri)04:02:35 No.68330904 >>68330879 >»68330850 Ok but why would you SPECIALIZE in it? When you're in the woods, everyone in your party has a weapon, but you're like, NAH IMMA USE MY FIST! 2 Anonymous 09/13/19(Fri)04:05:46 No.68330955 »68331456 >>68330904 don't move the goalposts, you asked why there'd even be rules for it, and you got a answer

File: 1568339555421 webm (1.5 MB, 720x480) 68330850 6833087968330903>68331204>68331388683327346833325268333268 >68333747 >>6833473268334815»68334899>>6833594368335985 Anonymous 09/13/19(Fri)03:56:06 No.68330805 Why is unarmed combat even a thing in rulesets? There's never a situation where you would prefer to be unarmed rather than armed Anonymous 09/13/19(Fri)03:59:07 No.68330850 68330904 >>68330805 (OP) If your PCs are only in situations they'd prefer then you're a s----- DM. Anonymous 09/13/19(Fri)04:01:21 No.68330879 File: CFUapture png (63 KB, 307x295) 68330904 >>68330805 (OP) >"Hey prison guard, I know I'm a prisoner, but I'd prefer to be armed instead of unarmed, so I'll take my sword with me." "Oh I've been disarmed, hang on mate, ive gotta pick up my sword, I mean why would i want to fight unarmed right?" Gee I f------ wonder what use unarmed combat would be. 2 Anonymous 09/13/19(Fri)04:02:21 No.68330903 >>68330805 (OP) Unarmed is useful in every system but GURPS 6833095568330962>683309716833098568330994 >6833101168331046 6833110368331171 6833120468331378 6833146968332734>68333193>>6833323768333252>68333266 >68334721 Anonymous 09/13/19(Fri)04:02:35 No.68330904 >>68330879 >»68330850 Ok but why would you SPECIALIZE in it? When you're in the woods, everyone in your party has a weapon, but you're like, NAH IMMA USE MY FIST! 2 Anonymous 09/13/19(Fri)04:05:46 No.68330955 »68331456 >>68330904 don't move the goalposts, you asked why there'd even be rules for it, and you got a answer

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BROther Laughing Man !6Ltud83uedY 11/20/10(Sat)03:18 No. 12863338 File1290241136 jpg-(54 KB, 380x373, ist2_8136840-lucha-libre-wrest(...)jpg) >playing half orc monk decide to play something beyond weeaboo i am a master of martial arts' spend 100 gp on inlaid mask with intricate tribal designs sewn on the side with a fin BECOME LOS TIBURON, THE SHARK OF THE LAND, MASKED WRESTLER take feats revolving around grappling grapple EVERYTHING EVERYTHING >EVERY. F------. THING including, but not limited to, a bear >final part of campaign >OH S--- DRAGON >dragon acts like a f-----, ducking into water and popping up to use breath weapon f--- that, I'm charging his ass >brother, playing warforged fighter, assists my MIGHTY LEAP into the air, where I pose in mid-air, shouting about the HONOR OF THE MASK TACKLE A F------ DRAGON >deal unarmed damage, latch on, take deep breath in preparation for the underwater struggle >dragon goes up. forgot they can actually fly. DM gives me option to let go before he goes up. F--- that, I'm still wrestling 200 FEET IN THE AIR, STILL WRESTLING A DRAGON AND DEALING UNARMED DAMAGE >Dragon actually starts hurting me. Have to come up with a plan. BRILLIANCE STRIKES ME '1 roll to pin. Entire table is silent. >I roll to 'pin' his wings behind his back, so he can't fly anymore. >ENTIRE TABLE IS LEANING OVER SO I CAN MAKE MY ROLL OF DESTINY >NATURAL. F------. TWENTY >lpin the dragon's wings, sending it and me hurtling into ground. I have six seconds to make my final statement. 'AM LOS TIBURON! And I am...a luchal!" Dragon's neck snaps on impact Through sheer luck or GM fiat, possibly both, I survive with -4 HP Cleric puts me back at one, picks me up, holding one arm into the air My brother immediately bangs his shield twice, making a bell noise >Party's bard/diplomancer. "And the winner is... .Los Tiburon!" >high fives all around And that was the story of how I made it to level four.

BROther Laughing Man !6Ltud83uedY 11/20/10(Sat)03:18 No. 12863338 File1290241136 jpg-(54 KB, 380x373, ist2_8136840-lucha-libre-wrest(...)jpg) >playing half orc monk decide to play something beyond weeaboo i am a master of martial arts' spend 100 gp on inlaid mask with intricate tribal designs sewn on the side with a fin BECOME LOS TIBURON, THE SHARK OF THE LAND, MASKED WRESTLER take feats revolving around grappling grapple EVERYTHING EVERYTHING >EVERY. F------. THING including, but not limited to, a bear >final part of campaign >OH S--- DRAGON >dragon acts like a f-----, ducking into water and popping up to use breath weapon f--- that, I'm charging his ass >brother, playing warforged fighter, assists my MIGHTY LEAP into the air, where I pose in mid-air, shouting about the HONOR OF THE MASK TACKLE A F------ DRAGON >deal unarmed damage, latch on, take deep breath in preparation for the underwater struggle >dragon goes up. forgot they can actually fly. DM gives me option to let go before he goes up. F--- that, I'm still wrestling 200 FEET IN THE AIR, STILL WRESTLING A DRAGON AND DEALING UNARMED DAMAGE >Dragon actually starts hurting me. Have to come up with a plan. BRILLIANCE STRIKES ME '1 roll to pin. Entire table is silent. >I roll to 'pin' his wings behind his back, so he can't fly anymore. >ENTIRE TABLE IS LEANING OVER SO I CAN MAKE MY ROLL OF DESTINY >NATURAL. F------. TWENTY >lpin the dragon's wings, sending it and me hurtling into ground. I have six seconds to make my final statement. 'AM LOS TIBURON! And I am...a luchal!" Dragon's neck snaps on impact Through sheer luck or GM fiat, possibly both, I survive with -4 HP Cleric puts me back at one, picks me up, holding one arm into the air My brother immediately bangs his shield twice, making a bell noise >Party's bard/diplomancer. "And the winner is... .Los Tiburon!" >high fives all around And that was the story of how I made it to level four.

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andhumanslovedstories A clenic who is the Team Mom and only heals by kissing you on the forehead and butts you by licking her thumb and rubbing away some schmutz on your face someone's like 'you know that's not actually required for your job" and she's like shhhhh my beautiful child, my healing my rules, I made you a potion, it's chicken noodle mana andhumanslovedstories Their holy sigil is a macaroni necklace you made in second grade. You didn't know them in second grade. You're not sure how they got that macaroni necklace. You ask them about it, and they just slip you a twenty and tell you to get whatever you want at the food court. "What is a food court?" you cry. but it doesn't matter because they summoned a hero's feast and everything tastes wonderful, and at some point you crawl into their lap to cry about something you thought you were adult enough to handle. This is you handling it, they say. "You're never too big to ask your mom for help. "You're literally not my mother, you s--. But metaphorically, they say, and you're like truuuuuuuuuu and s-- a little more before they tuck you into a bedroll because you've got a big day tomorrow stopping an assassination at a royal palace

andhumanslovedstories A clenic who is the Team Mom and only heals by kissing you on the forehead and butts you by licking her thumb and rubbing away some schmutz on your face someone's like 'you know that's not actually required for your job" and she's like shhhhh my beautiful child, my healing my rules, I made you a potion, it's chicken noodle mana andhumanslovedstories Their holy sigil is a macaroni necklace you made in second grade. You didn't know them in second grade. You're not sure how they got that macaroni necklace. You ask them about it, and they just slip you a twenty and tell you to get whatever you want at the food court. "What is a food court?" you cry. but it doesn't matter because they summoned a hero's feast and everything tastes wonderful, and at some point you crawl into their lap to cry about something you thought you were adult enough to handle. This is you handling it, they say. "You're never too big to ask your mom for help. "You're literally not my mother, you s--. But metaphorically, they say, and you're like truuuuuuuuuu and s-- a little more before they tuck you into a bedroll because you've got a big day tomorrow stopping an assassination at a royal palace

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File: 1553636626366,jpg (94 KB, 540x364) 66862588 >6686261366862656 >>6686266166862690>6686277866862825>6686313366863337>>66863487 >66863765>>66863815>66864084668641516686426366864386 >>66864389 >66864483 >>66864971>66865321 Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)14:55:49 No.66862576 He gave them. the heebie-jeebies. >>66867755668681426686821766869023>668698356687004366870554 66871394668716376687420366875583 >66875622668761896687631966877323>>6687765266877701668778506687789166878023>6687810166878107>66878467 >State that a race is irredeemably evil and going to be the main antagonist race for a campaign >Have NPCS state they're evil, have PCs see the results of what they do to people, have PCs see what happens when they're allowed to win >Have PCs faction tell them they're literally at war with this group of monsters and send the army off to fight them and try to drive them back >Players instantly decide that their side is in the wrong for reacting and that clearly the fact they've been fighting off these assholes for god knows how long totally justifies everything the other side has done, while ignoring the warcrimes and the fact that the villain race instigated the whole damned thing >Decide that they're going to betray their own Kingdom and try to switch sides/help the antagonist race or some other equally retarded s--- that they should full well know will end up with their characters being worn as hats based on previous actions of the antagonists in question Why does this always happen? Seriously, the second you show their side actually responding rather than just sitting there waiting for the heroes to come and save them, every player just spontaneously decides that clearly the orcs/elementals/dark elves/Insectoids/Demons/Irish/Elder gods are just sweethearts who are clearly doing it because mean ol' humans are d----. He had nothing else to give. Is this just my groups? Usually it's just one or two players who then talk around the others. I've had it happen twice in two different groups with entirely different players being the trouble starter and a third time last night and now I'm going to have to scramble for a reason for the PCs to not end up being flayed alive and their skins being used as banner flags or end the campaign when it happens because they'll bitch that for some reason the evil race of evil bastards that's acted evil the entire way through, turned out to be f------ evil. Does anyone else have this problem? 66869839 »66877630 Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)14:57:05 No.66862588 >>66862576 (OP) es anyone else have this problem? No, I play games 66862768 >2668642606687432866875685 Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)14:59:15 No.66862613 >>66862576 (OP) Maybe your players are getting sick of sitting through your blatant propagandist wank. Tell me, anon, do your orcs have large snouts? Perhaps they grunt unintelligible phrases like "mupmap oogabooga muhfuggen bix nood"? > Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)1 5:02 File: dae jpg (138 KB, 980x1040) No.66862656 66862886 >66862576 (OP) >Why does this always happen? Jesus Christ how many times have you tried and failed at such basic storytelling? Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)15:08:34 No.6686271 4 6686272866863027 >>66862690 Most people find the idea of a race of pure evil entities who understand they are evil and do evil for no real reason to be lazy writting Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)1 5:46:55 No.66863114 Count your blessings. Your players actually know how to play someone with empathy, even if they've gone overboard. It could be worse, you could have a bunch of murderhoboes who torture and kill NPCS regardless of race. »»66864571 »6687555766876321 Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)17:37:26 No.66864465 File: Say-No-to-Mediocre-Content.jpg (70 KB, 414x414) >Irredeemably evil races existing at all Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)1 7:48:03 No.66864571 >66864465 Based and Christpilled Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)06:33:38 No.66875557 66876321 >>66864465 ed Uncorruptible good and irredeemably evil is s--- that should be so outside the realm of what ordinary players deal with that it should never come up in regular play outside of spell fluff. Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)07:26:46 No.66876321 6687792266877990 >>66878009 *>6687804466878117 >>66875583 >>66875557 >>66864465 You "there's no evil, only noble savages!" f--- are a f------ cancer. Sometimes an evil race is just a f------ evil race. At this point it's better and more interesting than this "well they may skin people. But you're just judging them from your biased standpoint." b-------. Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)10:11:07 No.66877990 66878009 >>66876321 You're right. That's why whites are an objectively evil race, since they have committed endless atrocities the past. Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)10:14:20 No.66878009 File: 0a7png (652 KB, 428x960) 66878033>>66878038 66876321 >>66877990 You are both dumb Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)10:17:57 No.66878038 >66878009 Based and rational-pilled Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)10:01:36 No.66877922 66877957 >>66876321 No such thing as an evil race. Only evil individuals. Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)10:18:42 No.66878044 66878104>>66878106 >>66878163 >66877877 Sometime an empire of demon worshiping gnolls is just and empire of demon worshiping gnolls. Get the f--- off this board you "muh noble savages" plebbit refugee. 66876321 >You "there's no evil, only noble savages!" f--- are a f------ cancer. Sometimes an evil race There is a choice other than: "Evil race is Evil race because Evil!" lazy s--- writing just a f------ evil race. or >"Baby-eating demon worshiping is a valid life choice of the noble indigenous people" s--- thinking. If the race has Evil cultures and practices, it is largely Evil. That doesn't mean that their *RACE* is Irredeemably Evil. An empire of demon worshiping gnolls might give birth to innocent pups that need to be trained to be evil. There "might* be a heretic or two who doesn't like eating babies. (Doesn't change the fact that if you see a walking gnoll, you're going to kill it before chatting.) Saying "Nope! They're ALL PERFECTLY Evil because it says so on page 23!" is s---. Races that you can kill on sight is just being sensible. and s--- writing. Unless you are this anon >>66877323 He seems legit. Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)08:48:29 No.66877323 66877965>66878044>>66878107 File: doom-mobile-hero.jpg (183 KB, 960x960) 66862576 (OP) This is exactly why I always resort to demons from Hell for most of my fantasy antagonists. Yes, it's evil without question. very tired trope by now, but it's literally the one and only f------ thing that ever resonates with anyone as being irredeemably If it's a sci-fi cam paign, then it's often a robot race run by an insane Al. Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)10:23:41 No.66878106 66878145 File: thumbs-up.gif (2 MB, 450x246) >>66878044 >If the race has Evil cultures and practices, it is largely Evil. That doesn't mean that their *RACE* is Irredeemably Evil. Finally someone who gets it Anonymous D6/21/19(Fri)11:24:27 No.66878577 File: portrait-93751 12801-e144().ipg (95 KB, 759x567) >66878588 Hating a race because some their members control wealth or communication is like hating Native Americans and feeling like they haven't suffered enough because casinos rake in all that cash. The high up elite are *not* sharing with the rest of the race. I promise you. It's about the haves and the have-nots. It always has been and always will be. So don't hate the dwarven blacksmith because he's a dwarf Dwarves aren't iredeemably evil. Hate the rich, because they're irredeemably d----. But wait- We want to *be* rich. Better pretend orcs are born evil then.

File: 1553636626366,jpg (94 KB, 540x364) 66862588 >6686261366862656 >>6686266166862690>6686277866862825>6686313366863337>>66863487 >66863765>>66863815>66864084668641516686426366864386 >>66864389 >66864483 >>66864971>66865321 Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)14:55:49 No.66862576 He gave them. the heebie-jeebies. >>66867755668681426686821766869023>668698356687004366870554 66871394668716376687420366875583 >66875622668761896687631966877323>>6687765266877701668778506687789166878023>6687810166878107>66878467 >State that a race is irredeemably evil and going to be the main antagonist race for a campaign >Have NPCS state they're evil, have PCs see the results of what they do to people, have PCs see what happens when they're allowed to win >Have PCs faction tell them they're literally at war with this group of monsters and send the army off to fight them and try to drive them back >Players instantly decide that their side is in the wrong for reacting and that clearly the fact they've been fighting off these assholes for god knows how long totally justifies everything the other side has done, while ignoring the warcrimes and the fact that the villain race instigated the whole damned thing >Decide that they're going to betray their own Kingdom and try to switch sides/help the antagonist race or some other equally retarded s--- that they should full well know will end up with their characters being worn as hats based on previous actions of the antagonists in question Why does this always happen? Seriously, the second you show their side actually responding rather than just sitting there waiting for the heroes to come and save them, every player just spontaneously decides that clearly the orcs/elementals/dark elves/Insectoids/Demons/Irish/Elder gods are just sweethearts who are clearly doing it because mean ol' humans are d----. He had nothing else to give. Is this just my groups? Usually it's just one or two players who then talk around the others. I've had it happen twice in two different groups with entirely different players being the trouble starter and a third time last night and now I'm going to have to scramble for a reason for the PCs to not end up being flayed alive and their skins being used as banner flags or end the campaign when it happens because they'll bitch that for some reason the evil race of evil bastards that's acted evil the entire way through, turned out to be f------ evil. Does anyone else have this problem? 66869839 »66877630 Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)14:57:05 No.66862588 >>66862576 (OP) es anyone else have this problem? No, I play games 66862768 >2668642606687432866875685 Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)14:59:15 No.66862613 >>66862576 (OP) Maybe your players are getting sick of sitting through your blatant propagandist wank. Tell me, anon, do your orcs have large snouts? Perhaps they grunt unintelligible phrases like "mupmap oogabooga muhfuggen bix nood"? > Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)1 5:02 File: dae jpg (138 KB, 980x1040) No.66862656 66862886 >66862576 (OP) >Why does this always happen? Jesus Christ how many times have you tried and failed at such basic storytelling? Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)15:08:34 No.6686271 4 6686272866863027 >>66862690 Most people find the idea of a race of pure evil entities who understand they are evil and do evil for no real reason to be lazy writting Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)1 5:46:55 No.66863114 Count your blessings. Your players actually know how to play someone with empathy, even if they've gone overboard. It could be worse, you could have a bunch of murderhoboes who torture and kill NPCS regardless of race. »»66864571 »6687555766876321 Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)17:37:26 No.66864465 File: Say-No-to-Mediocre-Content.jpg (70 KB, 414x414) >Irredeemably evil races existing at all Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)1 7:48:03 No.66864571 >66864465 Based and Christpilled Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)06:33:38 No.66875557 66876321 >>66864465 ed Uncorruptible good and irredeemably evil is s--- that should be so outside the realm of what ordinary players deal with that it should never come up in regular play outside of spell fluff. Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)07:26:46 No.66876321 6687792266877990 >>66878009 *>6687804466878117 >>66875583 >>66875557 >>66864465 You "there's no evil, only noble savages!" f--- are a f------ cancer. Sometimes an evil race is just a f------ evil race. At this point it's better and more interesting than this "well they may skin people. But you're just judging them from your biased standpoint." b-------. Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)10:11:07 No.66877990 66878009 >>66876321 You're right. That's why whites are an objectively evil race, since they have committed endless atrocities the past. Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)10:14:20 No.66878009 File: 0a7png (652 KB, 428x960) 66878033>>66878038 66876321 >>66877990 You are both dumb Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)10:17:57 No.66878038 >66878009 Based and rational-pilled Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)10:01:36 No.66877922 66877957 >>66876321 No such thing as an evil race. Only evil individuals. Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)10:18:42 No.66878044 66878104>>66878106 >>66878163 >66877877 Sometime an empire of demon worshiping gnolls is just and empire of demon worshiping gnolls. Get the f--- off this board you "muh noble savages" plebbit refugee. 66876321 >You "there's no evil, only noble savages!" f--- are a f------ cancer. Sometimes an evil race There is a choice other than: "Evil race is Evil race because Evil!" lazy s--- writing just a f------ evil race. or >"Baby-eating demon worshiping is a valid life choice of the noble indigenous people" s--- thinking. If the race has Evil cultures and practices, it is largely Evil. That doesn't mean that their *RACE* is Irredeemably Evil. An empire of demon worshiping gnolls might give birth to innocent pups that need to be trained to be evil. There "might* be a heretic or two who doesn't like eating babies. (Doesn't change the fact that if you see a walking gnoll, you're going to kill it before chatting.) Saying "Nope! They're ALL PERFECTLY Evil because it says so on page 23!" is s---. Races that you can kill on sight is just being sensible. and s--- writing. Unless you are this anon >>66877323 He seems legit. Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)08:48:29 No.66877323 66877965>66878044>>66878107 File: doom-mobile-hero.jpg (183 KB, 960x960) 66862576 (OP) This is exactly why I always resort to demons from Hell for most of my fantasy antagonists. Yes, it's evil without question. very tired trope by now, but it's literally the one and only f------ thing that ever resonates with anyone as being irredeemably If it's a sci-fi cam paign, then it's often a robot race run by an insane Al. Anonymous 06/21/19(Fri)10:23:41 No.66878106 66878145 File: thumbs-up.gif (2 MB, 450x246) >>66878044 >If the race has Evil cultures and practices, it is largely Evil. That doesn't mean that their *RACE* is Irredeemably Evil. Finally someone who gets it Anonymous D6/21/19(Fri)11:24:27 No.66878577 File: portrait-93751 12801-e144().ipg (95 KB, 759x567) >66878588 Hating a race because some their members control wealth or communication is like hating Native Americans and feeling like they haven't suffered enough because casinos rake in all that cash. The high up elite are *not* sharing with the rest of the race. I promise you. It's about the haves and the have-nots. It always has been and always will be. So don't hate the dwarven blacksmith because he's a dwarf Dwarves aren't iredeemably evil. Hate the rich, because they're irredeemably d----. But wait- We want to *be* rich. Better pretend orcs are born evil then.

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DWARVEN PARENTING Urist: "IT'S SINK OR SWIM, SON!" Urist II: "I CAN'T SWIM IN THIS!" Urist: "SOUNDS LIKE ELF TALK TO ME, BOY!" This is why the Dwarven race is going extinct.

DWARVEN PARENTING Urist: "IT'S SINK OR SWIM, SON!" Urist II: "I CAN'T SWIM IN THIS!" Urist: "SOUNDS LIKE ELF TALK TO ME, BOY!" This is why the Dwarven race is going extinct.

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Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)06:08:38 No.66858299 668585356685889566860007 >66854594 >They also stop at whatever force is deemed necessary because they don't want to accidentally hurt innocents with collateral. Here's what Gygax had to say: >If the foes of these evil humanoids are so foolish as to accept surrender and take them prisoners so they may one day eventually go free and perform further depredations, your "Good" forces are really "Stupid." Neutral and Evil PCs would indeed accept surrender of humanoids, enlist them their behalf, and thus they would die for the profit of their masters. Thus, when I am DMing, humanoids do usually fight to the very last.. fight on The non-combatants after a siege would likely be judged as worthyist enslave, or execute them according to the nature of the Evil victors and that of the survivors. Enlistment would be for those of like alignment, slaughter for those opposite the victors predisposition to order or disorder. Enslavement IN oppone yof death by a LG opponent force and executed. A NG OPponent would likely admonish them to change thelir Ways berore freeing them. A CG force might enslave them so as to correct their ways or else do as the NG party did. CN and is an option for any sort of Evil desiring workers pponents would uch absurd beliefs With cifism, that is apropos, also with regards athesim. Only idiocy or mental derangement could ex to >Paladins are not stupid, and in general there is no rule of Lawful Good against killing enemies. Also, as I have often noted, a paladin can freely dispatch prisoners of Evil alignment that have surrendered and renounced that alignment in favor of Lawful Good. They are then sent on to their reward before they can backslide. Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)06:34:49 No.66858535 >>66858299 metal Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)09:11 :14 No.66860007 66858299 Old Gary always was a bit of an edgelord. Dude didn't even have concept of redemption.

Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)06:08:38 No.66858299 668585356685889566860007 >66854594 >They also stop at whatever force is deemed necessary because they don't want to accidentally hurt innocents with collateral. Here's what Gygax had to say: >If the foes of these evil humanoids are so foolish as to accept surrender and take them prisoners so they may one day eventually go free and perform further depredations, your "Good" forces are really "Stupid." Neutral and Evil PCs would indeed accept surrender of humanoids, enlist them their behalf, and thus they would die for the profit of their masters. Thus, when I am DMing, humanoids do usually fight to the very last.. fight on The non-combatants after a siege would likely be judged as worthyist enslave, or execute them according to the nature of the Evil victors and that of the survivors. Enlistment would be for those of like alignment, slaughter for those opposite the victors predisposition to order or disorder. Enslavement IN oppone yof death by a LG opponent force and executed. A NG OPponent would likely admonish them to change thelir Ways berore freeing them. A CG force might enslave them so as to correct their ways or else do as the NG party did. CN and is an option for any sort of Evil desiring workers pponents would uch absurd beliefs With cifism, that is apropos, also with regards athesim. Only idiocy or mental derangement could ex to >Paladins are not stupid, and in general there is no rule of Lawful Good against killing enemies. Also, as I have often noted, a paladin can freely dispatch prisoners of Evil alignment that have surrendered and renounced that alignment in favor of Lawful Good. They are then sent on to their reward before they can backslide. Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)06:34:49 No.66858535 >>66858299 metal Anonymous 06/20/19(Thu)09:11 :14 No.66860007 66858299 Old Gary always was a bit of an edgelord. Dude didn't even have concept of redemption.

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