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Fixing the Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice "Martha Scene" self fixingmovies Submitted 7 days ago* by TheRealMashedPotatoe I've been thinking about this, whilst in bed, and I think, in my modest opinion, that I have come up with a more believable reason as to why Batman does not kill Superman in the, in my mind, infamous "Martha Scene". So, now I haven't seen the film in a while so forgive some minor mistakes, the start of the "Martha Scene" as I see it is when Batman has his boot over Superman's throat. Superman is then all like "Martha, save Martha" and Batman is like "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?" ect. ect In this version, Superman is still fighting, but weakened by the Kryptonite Gas and Spear so much that he chooses to put his energy into trying to push Batman off of him instead of the "Martha, save Martha" bit So Superman is trying to push Batman off of him while he is doing that cool bit from The Dark Knight Returns about Clark remembering who defeated him, when Lois Lane runs in to come to Superman's aide Batman, upon seeing someone approach from his peripheral vision and acts on instinct, being in a fight with bloody Superman for god sakes the man is probably on edge, and uses the handle (not the Kryptonite tip the steel handle) of the spear to hit Lois Lane over and stun her, knocking her over in a similar way to Batman's mother's death This is where the use of the Batman Origin flashbacks come in handy, with Lois falling a lot like Martha did and then Superman doing what Thomas did, reaching towards their respective loved one and saying their name. This emotional display, which shows some character from the star-crossed lovers, makes Batman relive the moment of his parents death, but instead of being the little kid he is the gunman instead Batman then goes into his rage, throws the spear away and walks away a bit, finally realising what he's done, i.e. kill a fuckton of people. Superman and Lois have a moment before he goes to Batman for help again, with Batman listening this time and promising to do better, with Superman being Superman and saying "Alright mate lets get this thing done". Film carries on as normal, but instead of killing everyone in the warehouse he takes them out like normal not-crazy Batman would, showing that Batman learned something from the encounter and it wasn't just a throwaway scene to get to Doomsday It's not perfect, but I think that it would've made the film at least a little less silly in my eyes Side Note: I put this up on the /r/RewritingTheDCEU but not sure how active that is and i wanted an actual conversation about this, don't hate pls
Fixing the Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice "Martha Scene" self fixingmovies Submitted 7 days ago* by TheRealMashedPotatoe I've been thinking about this, whilst in bed, and I think, in my modest opinion, that I have come up with a more believable reason as to why Batman does not kill Superman in the, in my mind, infamous "Martha Scene". So, now I haven't seen the film in a while so forgive some minor mistakes, the start of the "Martha Scene" as I see it is when Batman has his boot over Superman's throat. Superman is then all like "Martha, save Martha" and Batman is like "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?" ect. ect In this version, Superman is still fighting, but weakened by the Kryptonite Gas and Spear so much that he chooses to put his energy into trying to push Batman off of him instead of the "Martha, save Martha" bit So Superman is trying to push Batman off of him while he is doing that cool bit from The Dark Knight Returns about Clark remembering who defeated him, when Lois Lane runs in to come to Superman's aide Batman, upon seeing someone approach from his peripheral vision and acts on instinct, being in a fight with bloody Superman for god sakes the man is probably on edge, and uses the handle (not the Kryptonite tip the steel handle) of the spear to hit Lois Lane over and stun her, knocking her over in a similar way to Batman's mother's death This is where the use of the Batman Origin flashbacks come in handy, with Lois falling a lot like Martha did and then Superman doing what Thomas did, reaching towards their respective loved one and saying their name. This emotional display, which shows some character from the star-crossed lovers, makes Batman relive the moment of his parents death, but instead of being the little kid he is the gunman instead Batman then goes into his rage, throws the spear away and walks away a bit, finally realising what he's done, i.e. kill a fuckton of people. Superman and Lois have a moment before he goes to Batman for help again, with Batman listening this time and promising to do better, with Superman being Superman and saying "Alright mate lets get this thing done". Film carries on as normal, but instead of killing everyone in the warehouse he takes them out like normal not-crazy Batman would, showing that Batman learned something from the encounter and it wasn't just a throwaway scene to get to Doomsday It's not perfect, but I think that it would've made the film at least a little less silly in my eyes Side Note: I put this up on the /r/RewritingTheDCEU but not sure how active that is and i wanted an actual conversation about this, don't hate pls

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Batman is broken this is The Dark Knight Returns batman after all. Thats why he is becoming more violent with criminals because he feels nothing he has done has mattered >Alfred: Everything's changed. Men fall from the sky, the gods hurl thunderbolts, innocents die. That's how it starts, sir. The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men... cruel Thats why he says stopping Superman is the only thing he does that will matter as he fears that Superman can destroy the world >Bruce: That son of a bitch brought the war to us two years ago. Jesus, Alfred, count the dead... thousands of people. What's next? Millions? He has the power to wipe out the entire human race, and if we believe there's even a one percent chance that he is our enemy we have to take it as an absolute certainty... and we have to destroy him >Criminals are like weeds, Alfred; pull one up, another grows in its place. This is about the future of the world. This is my legacy This changes during his battle. The Martha thing, while odd, makes perfect sense I feel. The Martha flashback during the scene makes him realize he has become everything he has hated. He has basically become the gunmen who killed his parents Superman: You're letting them kill Martha If he kills superman, Martha will die. Its the moment of realization his epiphany This change in Batman is solidified with Superman's sacrifice and death. Early Bruce says >You're not brave... men are brave. You say that you want to help people, but you can't feel their pain... their mortality... it's time you learn what it means to be a man. Superman death humanizes him to Batman (and the world) Part Thats why batman doesn't brand or kill Lex in the prison at the end. Superman basically allowed Batman to regain trust in the world. Bruce at the beginning of the film refers to heroics/the ability to do good and overcome (represented by the bats lifting him) as >A beautiful lie At the end, however, he says >Men are still good This line at the end from Bruce says the opposite - that people can make a difference. Hence why he will assemble the league in Superman's absence The world accepts Superman as a hero -no longer a figure of controversy, while Batman, who had strayed from the path, returns to being a "hero"
Batman is broken this is The Dark Knight Returns batman after all. Thats why he is becoming more violent with criminals because he feels nothing he has done has mattered >Alfred: Everything's changed. Men fall from the sky, the gods hurl thunderbolts, innocents die. That's how it starts, sir. The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men... cruel Thats why he says stopping Superman is the only thing he does that will matter as he fears that Superman can destroy the world >Bruce: That son of a bitch brought the war to us two years ago. Jesus, Alfred, count the dead... thousands of people. What's next? Millions? He has the power to wipe out the entire human race, and if we believe there's even a one percent chance that he is our enemy we have to take it as an absolute certainty... and we have to destroy him >Criminals are like weeds, Alfred; pull one up, another grows in its place. This is about the future of the world. This is my legacy This changes during his battle. The Martha thing, while odd, makes perfect sense I feel. The Martha flashback during the scene makes him realize he has become everything he has hated. He has basically become the gunmen who killed his parents Superman: You're letting them kill Martha If he kills superman, Martha will die. Its the moment of realization his epiphany This change in Batman is solidified with Superman's sacrifice and death. Early Bruce says >You're not brave... men are brave. You say that you want to help people, but you can't feel their pain... their mortality... it's time you learn what it means to be a man. Superman death humanizes him to Batman (and the world) Part Thats why batman doesn't brand or kill Lex in the prison at the end. Superman basically allowed Batman to regain trust in the world. Bruce at the beginning of the film refers to heroics/the ability to do good and overcome (represented by the bats lifting him) as >A beautiful lie At the end, however, he says >Men are still good This line at the end from Bruce says the opposite - that people can make a difference. Hence why he will assemble the league in Superman's absence The world accepts Superman as a hero -no longer a figure of controversy, while Batman, who had strayed from the path, returns to being a "hero"

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Anonymous 08/23/16(Tue)12:31:39 No. 85700807 ·2-85700841 2> See 85696976 The film set up that Batman was stressed and going beyond his usual methods, but this was never resolved. He just decides not to kill Superman and suddenly it's all forgotten. The ideological conflict is never resolved. Anonymous 08/23/16(Tue)12:39:09 No.85700841 >>85700807 It was resolved. Batman wanted to kill God, but God turns out to be just a man. Instead he focuses on justice by rescuing Martha. Anonymous 08/23/16(Tue)12:49:31 No.85700923 >85700841 Both Batman and Luthor wanted to kill god, but Batman was capable of letting go one he realized he was in the wrong, while Luthor remained obsessive till the end Unlike Luthor, Batman was willing to accept he was wrong
Anonymous 08/23/16(Tue)12:31:39 No. 85700807 ·2-85700841 2> See 85696976 The film set up that Batman was stressed and going beyond his usual methods, but this was never resolved. He just decides not to kill Superman and suddenly it's all forgotten. The ideological conflict is never resolved. Anonymous 08/23/16(Tue)12:39:09 No.85700841 >>85700807 It was resolved. Batman wanted to kill God, but God turns out to be just a man. Instead he focuses on justice by rescuing Martha. Anonymous 08/23/16(Tue)12:49:31 No.85700923 >85700841 Both Batman and Luthor wanted to kill god, but Batman was capable of letting go one he realized he was in the wrong, while Luthor remained obsessive till the end Unlike Luthor, Batman was willing to accept he was wrong

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The Myth of Batman v Superman Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 13:53:12 No.69555175 View Reply Original Report Quoted By: >>69555194 >>69557510 >>69562486>>69567558 >>69573287 >69577518>>69578926 >>69580385 >>69584524 Umberto Eco (Eco, 1972)analyzed the Superman myth in a very important article that makes several assertions about the 569KiB, 3378x612, 132473473482993.jpg Google iqdb SauceNAO Superman mythos and comic books in general. In this instance we will inspect and understand this treatise's connection with Snyder's Superman depicted in Man of Steel and in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 13:53:48 No.69555194 Quoted By >>69555240 >69573287 69577518 >69578926 Report >>69555175 For pragmatic purposes, here is a brief summary of Eco's essay: Superman Arrived on Earth from planet Krypton Unlimited strength, speed, and sight Can break speed of light and able to time travel Battles the forces of Evi Because of these traits, Superman becomes hard to identify with. Possible due to dual-identity of Superman Lives among men as journalist Clark Kent >He is timid, awkward, and submissive 거n a sense, Clark represents-average readers' (not a critical or Model Reader) Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 13:54:49 No.69555240 Report Quoted By>>69555276>>69573287 >>69577518>>69578926 Superman Umberto Eco Superman, however, does not share all the same qualities as mythical figures >Mythical figures are defined by a previous complex story or labor >Superman-monthly subscriptions touch on previous subscriptions and not on complex story >Religious/Mythical figures have predetermined fate Superman does not Issue with Superman -1 weakness: Kryptonite. This limits narrative theme: >As a result, scriptwriters must create intriguing obstacles due to character's flatness >Consumption of Superman: cannnot consume himself since he is a myth (which Eco says are inconsumable BECAUSE they are already consumed by some exemplary action- often upholding some law such as valor or rebirth) >> Even if he just flies around for an hour of action, he moves closer to death and gets older >> Remains "both" since he is a mythical creature existing in a normal world (Earth) Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 13:55:50 No.69555276 Quoted By69555337 69573287 6957751869678926 Report >69555240 Consequently, the character has made a gesture which is inscribed in his past and which weighs on his future. He has taken a step toward death, he has gotten older, if only an hour, his storehouse of personal experiences has irreversibly enlarged. To act, then, for Superman as for any other character (or each of us), means to Time in Superman Comics >Time is broken down due to serialization - what is the time that connects one story to the next? If each week's story took on where last one left off, Superman would be moving closer to death and older (i.e. consuming himself) Scriptwriters develop an "oneiric climate the connection is hazy on purpose to distract readers from time issue between stories: the reader, without realizing it, of course, loses the notion of temporal progression" (Eco 115) Report Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 13:57:19 No.69555337 Quoted By >>69555372 >>69573287 >>69577518 > 69578926 >69555276 Reader likes (and expects) redundancy - seen in stock characters and in small habits of even complex characters (Holmes' recurring tic) Roots come from feuilleton-founded in triumph of information and having messages loaded with redundancy and focus of tradition (doesn't want to upset norms). The character is "required to 'consume' himself through to death" (Eco 120) Civic and Political Consciousness Superman is most powerful and represents the conglomerate of all superheroes (he is the forerunner of superheroes and most carefully sketched and sought after) >Why limit the use of their powers? They usually fight bank robbers and mail-truck robbers (Superman now connotes "fights only for human property" - he chooses not to fight for world peace or take over the government and enforce strict morals to improve humanity Furthermore, Superman wastes time and raising money for charity events (see above connotation), when he could be using his energy to create sustainable energy for the entire world >>Leads Eco to conclusion about Superman's pervasive theme: good is represented only as charity Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 13:58:23 No.69555372 Quoted By >>69555413 > 69573287 >>69577518 >>69578926 Report >69555337 It's clear that some aspects of Eco's essay require to be updated - seeing as his knowledge of the character's development stops in the 70's. Superman no longer strays away from political dilemmas and state issues His prime villains have changed with the times: the attacks of them solely on private property (possibly correlated to the population's mindset during the Cold War) warped to attacks that pose global threats His once-sacred no-kill rule has been broken several times, opening the door to morality discussions More importance has been given to continuity, both in comics and their direct logical extensions: Cinematic Universes are Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 13:59:27 No.69555413 Report Quoted By:>>69555454 >69564366 >>69573287 >>69577518>>69578926 Snyder's intention isn't to provide the definitive version of Superman. As Eco declares, this is impossible seeing as this would make the figure consume itself. Snyder intends simply to provide the character with another intriguing obstacle: that of a modern, hyperreal, cynical society. The hyperrealism of Zack Snyder's latest films has come to be one of the most defining traits of them. The context of these superhero movies is very much a parallel to our real world, working as a mirror to it, where post 9/11 paranoia is still real, race relations are shaky with tensions at an all time high, and an honest, yet cynical view of the fervent religious fervor that captures a significant sect of our population. While Snyder aims to give us a what if" situation of how these heroes would be received, exist and live in our own world, he at the same time refuses to stop there. He still adheres to the comic book aesthetic, perhaps more so than any other director. He refuses to apologize for the look of these heroes, forgoing the usual "functional armor" look that many cinema superheroes are chained too. No, these heroes look AND act as if they leaped from the pages of a graphic novel, and the world they leaped into is our own. By imbuing the DCEU with the most uncompromising comic book influence there is, while not disregarding the mythical traits of these characters, and at the same time grounding the characterization of these heroes within the context of our world, Zack has created one of the most hyperreal cinema concepts perhaps ever executed. The reaction of the public to these stories validates this thesis. And in a genius meta-infused gesture is depicted in the film itself as the urine jar in the Capitol hearing. View Same Google SauceNAO 凼 Pi55-Christ-by-Serrano Andres(1 ( )jpg, 11KB,261x382 qb Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 14:00:41 No.695S5454 Quoted By 69573287 6957751869578926 >69555413 Report Piss Christis a 1987 photograph by the American artist and photographer Andres Serrano. It depicts a small plastic crucifix submerged in a glass of the artist's urine Lex Luthor's sabotage of Superman's will to serve humanity was highlighted by his seemingly ultra-petty humiliation of Senator Finch. Yet the two unrelated schemes have this artful connection. >Sister Wendy Beckett, an art critic and Catholic nun, stated in a television interview with Bill Moyers that she regarded the work as not blasphemous but a statement on what we have done to Christ": that is, the way contemporary society has come to regard Christ and the values he represents. The entire idea behind the Congressional Hearing was Piss Christ. The idea of the movie in itself is Piss Christ. Snyder is completely aware of all the themes at work here, including that of a "realistic" take on Superman being detrimental to the character, moving him closer to death. Placing Superman in a real world setting -that of cynics, corruption, and apathy-is the same as placing Jesus in a jar of piss that is our contemporary society. This doubles down on the prediction that Superman's miracle of resurrection will usher in a new era for this world free from the cynicisim and 'realism' where Superman can live up to his potential. >Catholic Archbishop of Melbourne,George Pell, sought an injunction from the Supreme Court of Victoriato restrain the National Gallery of Victoria from publicly displaying Piss Christ, which was not granted. Some days later, one patron attempted to remove the work from the gallery wall, and two teenagers later attacked it with a hammer Snyder was even genius enough to predict the movie's hatred, from prominent critics and especially from passionate youths desperate for the pure symbol promised to them in their sunday schools and bedtime stories (comics and cartoons). Justice League, as the final part of the Superman trilogy, will reveal all.
The Myth of Batman v Superman Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 13:53:12 No.69555175 View Reply Original Report Quoted By: >>69555194 >>69557510 >>69562486>>69567558 >>69573287 >69577518>>69578926 >>69580385 >>69584524 Umberto Eco (Eco, 1972)analyzed the Superman myth in a very important article that makes several assertions about the 569KiB, 3378x612, 132473473482993.jpg Google iqdb SauceNAO Superman mythos and comic books in general. In this instance we will inspect and understand this treatise's connection with Snyder's Superman depicted in Man of Steel and in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 13:53:48 No.69555194 Quoted By >>69555240 >69573287 69577518 >69578926 Report >>69555175 For pragmatic purposes, here is a brief summary of Eco's essay: Superman Arrived on Earth from planet Krypton Unlimited strength, speed, and sight Can break speed of light and able to time travel Battles the forces of Evi Because of these traits, Superman becomes hard to identify with. Possible due to dual-identity of Superman Lives among men as journalist Clark Kent >He is timid, awkward, and submissive 거n a sense, Clark represents-average readers' (not a critical or Model Reader) Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 13:54:49 No.69555240 Report Quoted By>>69555276>>69573287 >>69577518>>69578926 Superman Umberto Eco Superman, however, does not share all the same qualities as mythical figures >Mythical figures are defined by a previous complex story or labor >Superman-monthly subscriptions touch on previous subscriptions and not on complex story >Religious/Mythical figures have predetermined fate Superman does not Issue with Superman -1 weakness: Kryptonite. This limits narrative theme: >As a result, scriptwriters must create intriguing obstacles due to character's flatness >Consumption of Superman: cannnot consume himself since he is a myth (which Eco says are inconsumable BECAUSE they are already consumed by some exemplary action- often upholding some law such as valor or rebirth) >> Even if he just flies around for an hour of action, he moves closer to death and gets older >> Remains "both" since he is a mythical creature existing in a normal world (Earth) Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 13:55:50 No.69555276 Quoted By69555337 69573287 6957751869678926 Report >69555240 Consequently, the character has made a gesture which is inscribed in his past and which weighs on his future. He has taken a step toward death, he has gotten older, if only an hour, his storehouse of personal experiences has irreversibly enlarged. To act, then, for Superman as for any other character (or each of us), means to Time in Superman Comics >Time is broken down due to serialization - what is the time that connects one story to the next? If each week's story took on where last one left off, Superman would be moving closer to death and older (i.e. consuming himself) Scriptwriters develop an "oneiric climate the connection is hazy on purpose to distract readers from time issue between stories: the reader, without realizing it, of course, loses the notion of temporal progression" (Eco 115) Report Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 13:57:19 No.69555337 Quoted By >>69555372 >>69573287 >>69577518 > 69578926 >69555276 Reader likes (and expects) redundancy - seen in stock characters and in small habits of even complex characters (Holmes' recurring tic) Roots come from feuilleton-founded in triumph of information and having messages loaded with redundancy and focus of tradition (doesn't want to upset norms). The character is "required to 'consume' himself through to death" (Eco 120) Civic and Political Consciousness Superman is most powerful and represents the conglomerate of all superheroes (he is the forerunner of superheroes and most carefully sketched and sought after) >Why limit the use of their powers? They usually fight bank robbers and mail-truck robbers (Superman now connotes "fights only for human property" - he chooses not to fight for world peace or take over the government and enforce strict morals to improve humanity Furthermore, Superman wastes time and raising money for charity events (see above connotation), when he could be using his energy to create sustainable energy for the entire world >>Leads Eco to conclusion about Superman's pervasive theme: good is represented only as charity Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 13:58:23 No.69555372 Quoted By >>69555413 > 69573287 >>69577518 >>69578926 Report >69555337 It's clear that some aspects of Eco's essay require to be updated - seeing as his knowledge of the character's development stops in the 70's. Superman no longer strays away from political dilemmas and state issues His prime villains have changed with the times: the attacks of them solely on private property (possibly correlated to the population's mindset during the Cold War) warped to attacks that pose global threats His once-sacred no-kill rule has been broken several times, opening the door to morality discussions More importance has been given to continuity, both in comics and their direct logical extensions: Cinematic Universes are Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 13:59:27 No.69555413 Report Quoted By:>>69555454 >69564366 >>69573287 >>69577518>>69578926 Snyder's intention isn't to provide the definitive version of Superman. As Eco declares, this is impossible seeing as this would make the figure consume itself. Snyder intends simply to provide the character with another intriguing obstacle: that of a modern, hyperreal, cynical society. The hyperrealism of Zack Snyder's latest films has come to be one of the most defining traits of them. The context of these superhero movies is very much a parallel to our real world, working as a mirror to it, where post 9/11 paranoia is still real, race relations are shaky with tensions at an all time high, and an honest, yet cynical view of the fervent religious fervor that captures a significant sect of our population. While Snyder aims to give us a what if" situation of how these heroes would be received, exist and live in our own world, he at the same time refuses to stop there. He still adheres to the comic book aesthetic, perhaps more so than any other director. He refuses to apologize for the look of these heroes, forgoing the usual "functional armor" look that many cinema superheroes are chained too. No, these heroes look AND act as if they leaped from the pages of a graphic novel, and the world they leaped into is our own. By imbuing the DCEU with the most uncompromising comic book influence there is, while not disregarding the mythical traits of these characters, and at the same time grounding the characterization of these heroes within the context of our world, Zack has created one of the most hyperreal cinema concepts perhaps ever executed. The reaction of the public to these stories validates this thesis. And in a genius meta-infused gesture is depicted in the film itself as the urine jar in the Capitol hearing. View Same Google SauceNAO 凼 Pi55-Christ-by-Serrano Andres(1 ( )jpg, 11KB,261x382 qb Anonymous Sun 15 May 2016 14:00:41 No.695S5454 Quoted By 69573287 6957751869578926 >69555413 Report Piss Christis a 1987 photograph by the American artist and photographer Andres Serrano. It depicts a small plastic crucifix submerged in a glass of the artist's urine Lex Luthor's sabotage of Superman's will to serve humanity was highlighted by his seemingly ultra-petty humiliation of Senator Finch. Yet the two unrelated schemes have this artful connection. >Sister Wendy Beckett, an art critic and Catholic nun, stated in a television interview with Bill Moyers that she regarded the work as not blasphemous but a statement on what we have done to Christ": that is, the way contemporary society has come to regard Christ and the values he represents. The entire idea behind the Congressional Hearing was Piss Christ. The idea of the movie in itself is Piss Christ. Snyder is completely aware of all the themes at work here, including that of a "realistic" take on Superman being detrimental to the character, moving him closer to death. Placing Superman in a real world setting -that of cynics, corruption, and apathy-is the same as placing Jesus in a jar of piss that is our contemporary society. This doubles down on the prediction that Superman's miracle of resurrection will usher in a new era for this world free from the cynicisim and 'realism' where Superman can live up to his potential. >Catholic Archbishop of Melbourne,George Pell, sought an injunction from the Supreme Court of Victoriato restrain the National Gallery of Victoria from publicly displaying Piss Christ, which was not granted. Some days later, one patron attempted to remove the work from the gallery wall, and two teenagers later attacked it with a hammer Snyder was even genius enough to predict the movie's hatred, from prominent critics and especially from passionate youths desperate for the pure symbol promised to them in their sunday schools and bedtime stories (comics and cartoons). Justice League, as the final part of the Superman trilogy, will reveal all.

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SO YOU THINK BATMAN V SUPERMAN IS JUST A DUMB CAPE FILM BY A DIRECTOR WITH NO TALENT YOU DARE SAY? Revelation 11:7-10 from the Bible as symbolically used n Batman V Superman: s 04/29/16(Fri)19:07:59 No 68883845 >>688838942268902055 File:old vs new ipg (141 KB, 1700x802) classical art vs modem art low art vs high art BATMAN Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast Doomsday) that comes up from the Abyss will attack them (Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman), them (Kill Superman).。 also horses again and overpower and kill note that there's a ton of glimpses of Ancient Greek architecture throughout the film L Anonymous 0430/16(Sat)06:32:09 No.68902055 ile 890209122689 02113쯔689041252268005052 (892 KB, 1200x604) Their bodies (Superman's body) will lie in the public square of the great city-which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt (Metropolis and Gotham) H--------, the painting behind Bruce is A Balance Of Terror, it's about senseless violence between people based on arbitrary differences (black vs white, representing skin colour, ideology, etc.), Bruce and Clark's fight is also ultimately senseless since underneath they both want to do good. And black vs white is repeated in Luthor's line "day vs night Holy f--- EL AND UNUSUAL aess The Flash is symbolic of Angel Gabriel coming to It rhymes deliver Mother Mary (Bruce Wayne) an important message of the future. Anonymous 04/30/1 6(Sat)04:40:48 No 68898253 >>68898829-8903064 young bruce is being lifted into the air by bats into the light bruce's narration says that he thought he was heading into the light but it was all a dream 18 months ago the world is introduced to the superman Adanado The song which plays VERSUS NIGHT! RE COMING. by Frank Sinatra BLACK AND BLUE This is why Zack Snyder wanted Bruce to be dreaming when the Flash appears because Mother Mary in the Bible 'believed" at first that the message was only a dream GOD VERSUS MAN, at Lex's party is called DAT EREDay and Nigh And marveldrones have the audacity to claim this movie is poorly edited. Any of your quipflicks come close to this work of film? s 04/29/16(Fri)20:07 21 No 68884823 >268885459 spear made as murder weapon Svmbolic of Lex's later speech in the film by the water becomes righteous weapon 0 MONUMENT man of murder goes into same cleansing baptismal w emerges pure then sacrifices himself Anonymous 04/29/16(Fri)19:35:45 №68884351 File: 125213632 png (371 KB, 672x369) >-58884451208888373-8895740 Both Angel Gabriel and the Flash are surrounded by a White Light to show their power of knowledge as a messenger. Superman's army is symbolic of Hitler's Nazi army - who had taken the righteous Swastika and turned it into a menacing war logo. Same way the hope and peace symbol of Superman's logo has changed to be wrathful.
SO YOU THINK BATMAN V SUPERMAN IS JUST A DUMB CAPE FILM BY A DIRECTOR WITH NO TALENT YOU DARE SAY? Revelation 11:7-10 from the Bible as symbolically used n Batman V Superman: s 04/29/16(Fri)19:07:59 No 68883845 >>688838942268902055 File:old vs new ipg (141 KB, 1700x802) classical art vs modem art low art vs high art BATMAN Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast Doomsday) that comes up from the Abyss will attack them (Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman), them (Kill Superman).。 also horses again and overpower and kill note that there's a ton of glimpses of Ancient Greek architecture throughout the film L Anonymous 0430/16(Sat)06:32:09 No.68902055 ile 890209122689 02113쯔689041252268005052 (892 KB, 1200x604) Their bodies (Superman's body) will lie in the public square of the great city-which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt (Metropolis and Gotham) H--------, the painting behind Bruce is A Balance Of Terror, it's about senseless violence between people based on arbitrary differences (black vs white, representing skin colour, ideology, etc.), Bruce and Clark's fight is also ultimately senseless since underneath they both want to do good. And black vs white is repeated in Luthor's line "day vs night Holy f--- EL AND UNUSUAL aess The Flash is symbolic of Angel Gabriel coming to It rhymes deliver Mother Mary (Bruce Wayne) an important message of the future. Anonymous 04/30/1 6(Sat)04:40:48 No 68898253 >>68898829-8903064 young bruce is being lifted into the air by bats into the light bruce's narration says that he thought he was heading into the light but it was all a dream 18 months ago the world is introduced to the superman Adanado The song which plays VERSUS NIGHT! RE COMING. by Frank Sinatra BLACK AND BLUE This is why Zack Snyder wanted Bruce to be dreaming when the Flash appears because Mother Mary in the Bible 'believed" at first that the message was only a dream GOD VERSUS MAN, at Lex's party is called DAT EREDay and Nigh And marveldrones have the audacity to claim this movie is poorly edited. Any of your quipflicks come close to this work of film? s 04/29/16(Fri)20:07 21 No 68884823 >268885459 spear made as murder weapon Svmbolic of Lex's later speech in the film by the water becomes righteous weapon 0 MONUMENT man of murder goes into same cleansing baptismal w emerges pure then sacrifices himself Anonymous 04/29/16(Fri)19:35:45 №68884351 File: 125213632 png (371 KB, 672x369) >-58884451208888373-8895740 Both Angel Gabriel and the Flash are surrounded by a White Light to show their power of knowledge as a messenger. Superman's army is symbolic of Hitler's Nazi army - who had taken the righteous Swastika and turned it into a menacing war logo. Same way the hope and peace symbol of Superman's logo has changed to be wrathful.

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Batman v Superman symbology, part 4

THE DEATH OF THE SUPER MAN Jor-elt He'll bo a god to them. [.. Out there, amongst the stars, he will livo. BvS ending Lexi But the bell has already been rung, and they've heard it. And in the dark, amongst the starsı ding dong, the god is dead. Revelation 11:7-10 from the Bible as symbolically used in Batman V Superman "Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast (Doomsday) that comes up from the Abyss will attack them The kryptonite spear, made as a murder , and overpower and kill them (Kill S (Superman's body) will lie in the public square of the Their bodies great city-which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt (Metropolis and Gotham Lefti Zod uses his gauntlet claw to kill the father Rightt Zod, deformed after his claw to kill the son Mordred (the incestuous deformity son of Arthur and Morgana) stabs Arthur with a spear but Arthur further impales himself to get closer and kills Mordred with Excalibur. JESUS CHRIST DIED ON EASTER FRIDAY THE MOVIE WAS RELEASED EXACTLY ON EASTER FRIDAY. MARCH 25 SUPERMAN DIED A MARCH 25TH IN OUR WORLD HE WASNT BURIED FOR 3 DAYS. JESUS WAS BURIED AND HE RESURECT ED AT THE THIRD DAY IS EXPECTED FOR SUPERMAN TO RESURECT
THE DEATH OF THE SUPER MAN Jor-elt He'll bo a god to them. [.. Out there, amongst the stars, he will livo. BvS ending Lexi But the bell has already been rung, and they've heard it. And in the dark, amongst the starsı ding dong, the god is dead. Revelation 11:7-10 from the Bible as symbolically used in Batman V Superman "Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast (Doomsday) that comes up from the Abyss will attack them The kryptonite spear, made as a murder , and overpower and kill them (Kill S (Superman's body) will lie in the public square of the Their bodies great city-which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt (Metropolis and Gotham Lefti Zod uses his gauntlet claw to kill the father Rightt Zod, deformed after his claw to kill the son Mordred (the incestuous deformity son of Arthur and Morgana) stabs Arthur with a spear but Arthur further impales himself to get closer and kills Mordred with Excalibur. JESUS CHRIST DIED ON EASTER FRIDAY THE MOVIE WAS RELEASED EXACTLY ON EASTER FRIDAY. MARCH 25 SUPERMAN DIED A MARCH 25TH IN OUR WORLD HE WASNT BURIED FOR 3 DAYS. JESUS WAS BURIED AND HE RESURECT ED AT THE THIRD DAY IS EXPECTED FOR SUPERMAN TO RESURECT

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Batman v Superman symbology, part 3

EXCALIBUR EXCAL Excalibur (1981), a modern retelling of the 15th century legend Le Morte d'Arthur. It is shown on the marquee at the theater (Coming Wednesday on the night Bruce's parents are killed. 31 I" I The fight between Batman vs Superman is similar to the fight between Lancelot and Arthur (two good men fighting against each other due to hubris and passion, eventually reconciling to fight the new villain) Lancelot defeats Arthur and his knights, so Arthur sum- mons Excalibur's magic and defeats Lancelot but breaks Excalibur. Arthur is ashamed of abusing the sword's power to serve his own vanity and throws the sword's remains into the lake. Ar mons Excaliburs athlur and his knights, In BvS we can revisit iconic moments such as Arthur taking the excalibur from the stone mirroring Batman and his spear. Batman also wears a dark knight like armor. Lois is the lady of the lake, tossing the spear into the water and then having to get it back before the final fight. The roles had reversed and Superman now restored and baptized in the lake is the righteous King Arthur. The Superman we all know and love. Mordred bears a curse caused by his unnatural, incestuous origin. He is the forbidden son of king Arthur and his sister Lex mixes his own blood with a kryptonian to create his own brand of deformity. Doomsday is Mordred. In the end Superman stabs Doomsday and gets stabbed in return, and Superman impales himself fur- ther to stab Doomsday through the back and kill him, same way the fight between Mordred and Arthur goes. Doomsday's unnatural creation also mirrors how Morgana created Mordred
EXCALIBUR EXCAL Excalibur (1981), a modern retelling of the 15th century legend Le Morte d'Arthur. It is shown on the marquee at the theater (Coming Wednesday on the night Bruce's parents are killed. 31 I" I The fight between Batman vs Superman is similar to the fight between Lancelot and Arthur (two good men fighting against each other due to hubris and passion, eventually reconciling to fight the new villain) Lancelot defeats Arthur and his knights, so Arthur sum- mons Excalibur's magic and defeats Lancelot but breaks Excalibur. Arthur is ashamed of abusing the sword's power to serve his own vanity and throws the sword's remains into the lake. Ar mons Excaliburs athlur and his knights, In BvS we can revisit iconic moments such as Arthur taking the excalibur from the stone mirroring Batman and his spear. Batman also wears a dark knight like armor. Lois is the lady of the lake, tossing the spear into the water and then having to get it back before the final fight. The roles had reversed and Superman now restored and baptized in the lake is the righteous King Arthur. The Superman we all know and love. Mordred bears a curse caused by his unnatural, incestuous origin. He is the forbidden son of king Arthur and his sister Lex mixes his own blood with a kryptonian to create his own brand of deformity. Doomsday is Mordred. In the end Superman stabs Doomsday and gets stabbed in return, and Superman impales himself fur- ther to stab Doomsday through the back and kill him, same way the fight between Mordred and Arthur goes. Doomsday's unnatural creation also mirrors how Morgana created Mordred

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