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The Sad, Embarrassing History of the PLA and Why China Would Struggle Taking Taiwan

O Anonymous (ID: 1/OLFN2 ) 1 09/20/20(Sun)17:44:22 No.278453341 >>278453647 >>278454013 >>278455763 >>278458702 >>278474174 File: Hope the fried rice was w(.).png (73 KB, 218x280) This is for the previous discussion of the PLA invading Taiwan. I firmly am on the side of it being an absolutely terrible idea that doomed to failure for the PLA. In order to understand why China is unable to take Taiwan, let's first look t the history of the Chinese civil war. It goes very badly for the communists at first, but thanks to the Imperial Japanese army, the KMT gets bloodied, and the communists get almost a decade to recruit, rearm, and grow without engaging in any real hostilities. Thus after WWII is over, the KMT is barely standing and the nascent CCP attacks, driving the exhausted and depleted KMT forces out of China. By 1949, the KMT has been entirely kicked out of mainland China and their only remaining area is Taiwan. So in fall 1949, the CCP begins preparing PLA army group North for the largest amphibious operation in Chinese history. However, before they are ready, North Korea invades South Korea and precedes to get their asses kicked once the UN enters on the southern side. China then counter invades to make sure no "imperialist" forces stay on the Korean peninsula, no "imperialist" air bases are formed in range of the mainland, and that the Korean peninsula be unified under the communist flag to serve as a buffer territory. To ensure this happens they send their best and most trained army: PLA army group North. Needless to say the Korean War is a disaster of the PLA. Part 1 O Anonymous (ID: M/OLIN2) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:47:03 No.278453647 >278453812 >278454013 >278455763 File: PLA 1950's taking tibet.png (306 KB, 453x304) >>278453341 Part 2 Because: Mao's heir gets napalmed while cooking fried rice army group north takes 1.4 million casualties out of 1.5 million soldiers PLA PLA army group north has to be reconstituted in its entirety Us forces remain in South Korea till this very day US air bases remain in striking distance of the mainland to this very day PLA generals publicly denounce Mao for the first and only time in CCP history. The Korean War got the PLAS best army, the only one trained in amphibious operatives completely destroyed and the CCP lost their chance to retake Taiwan and finish their civil war, which is STILL ongoing. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/korean-war-saved-taiwan-clutches-chairman-mao-142852 https://digitalcommons.Isu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2803&context=gradschool_theses Given this massive failure you'd expect the PLA to reorganize to improve deficiencies laid bare by the conflict with the UN. To take their learnings for getting their asses kicked and use it to improve their strategies and tactics. But you would be wrong. The CCP response was that their troops weren't loyal enough, and the fostered the idea of bravery as being more important that actual war fighting skill. They were trained to march into combat shoulder to shoulder, singing songs, and only engage at close distances. They were trained to never abandon the fight unless directly ordered to retreat. They were trained to use artillery in direct fire only. And many many more cases of loyalty and insanely marching straight into fights expecting their numbers to completely overwhelm the enemy. O Anonymous (ID: 1/OLIN2 ) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:48:28 No.278453812 >278453901 >278454013 >>278455763 File: 1962 aesthetic mountain f(.).png (210 KB, 513x366) >>278453647 Ironically they may have gotten this idea for the US media's misunderstanding of Chinese tactics in the Korean War, and the US media kept talking about the effectiveness of their "human wave tactics" of just throwing bodies at US positions, despite the fact the Chinese were using an infiltration strategy, infiltrating units all around UN troops and attacking from all sides simultaneously. No matter the reason, the fact that Mao enforced loyalty and foolhardiness over actual military competency leads directly to the Chinese experience in the Vietnam war, but first a brief detour into the Sino-Indian border "war". Barely 15k per side engaged in direct conflict, and casualties were likewise tiny compared to the other wars on this list being -5-7k total for both sides. In this war, it reads as an exact opposite of todays India/China conflict. China had fewer soldiers, but they were all acclimated and experienced mountain fighters (they took tibet after all). India had more equipment in theatre, but far less useful equipment in theatre. China eventually had enough of India's movements, and attacked forcing the Indians back with greater casualties. China claims they stopped because they were kind, but that is only part of the story the other part is that the PLA took as many casualties in the last 3 days of fighting as in the rest of the "war", and given the troop numbers sweeping, this was going to get worse and worse as green PLA conscripts would have been forced into the mountain fight. Overall, a similar outcome (the experienced mountain fighters prevailing) will most likely occur if Ladkah goes hot again. This is why the PLA cannot escalate any more on their border with India, and the PLA are intently familiar with this one victorious "war" and know that the cards are currently stacked against them. http://web.stanford.edu/group/tomzgroup/pmwiki/uploads/0199-2003-Burkitt-a-IEM. pdf part 3 O Anonymous (ID: 1/OLAN2) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:49:08 No.278453901 >278454013 >>278454024 >278455763 File: I wasn't kidding about th(..).png (285 KB, 597x371) >>278453812 Now to the third Indochina war. Here, Cambodia's Khmer Rouge had killed -30% of their own population and run out of people to plausibly blame for all their regimes failures. So they started abducting Vietnamese people from across the border to murder. Vietnam told they to knock that the f--- off, and the Khmer Rouge kept on going. So Vietnam invaded and proceeded to wipe out the Khmer Rouge and send Pol Pot fleeing. China had mutual defense pact with Cambodia, and came to their aid less they lose face. The PLA built up 450k troops on their border with Vietnam and Invaded. Defending Northern Vietnam were some reserve militias with ~40k troops, many women and elderly. The official Chinese goal is to march to Hanoi and Force the Vietnamese to withdraw from Cambodia, thus saving the Khmer Rouge. 3 Days into the war and a mere 5km into enemy territory and PLA supply lines are breaking, with frontline troops going without food and ammo for the rest of the duration of the war. (Yes the PLA had soldiers die of starvation in a three week war.) In the course of these three weeks, China fails to achieve the objectives they set for the first two days of the war, much less achieve the goal of marching into Hanoi itself. They further take 30k dead, many more wounded and captured. In this war we got to see Maoist fighting on the forefront. A PLA division was held up for 6 hours by a single platoon. The PLA soldiers marched shoulder to shoulder directly into a minefield and automatic gun fire. The division ended up taking a company worth dead, and three more crippled, while the Vietnamese platoon suffered a single twisted ankle. Without taking a single major objective after three weeks, getting BTFO by reserve militias the PLA turned tail and fled, from then on only threatening Vietnam, never actually attacking. The Vietnam war was their last combat experience, and it was a disaster of epic proportion. Part 4 O Anonymous (ID: 1/OLIN2 ) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:50:12 No.278454024 >>278454111 >>278455226 File: J-7 still fly even along (.).png (239 KB, 297x290) >>278453901 The doctrine they showed had no combined arms, no fire support, no maneuver elements, nothing but foolhardy arrogance to walk directly into machine-gun fire. https://silo.pub/chinese-military-strategy-in-the-third-indochina-war-the-last-maoist-war-asian-security-studies.html After the Irag war scared the s--- out the CCP, they embarked on updating the PLA. PLA, PLAN, PLAAF equipment across the board is completely different from what they used the last time they had combat. They have ZERO experience with it, and their doctrine for using it is a slapdash facsimile of what they see NATO do. But the problem is that they completely lack all the fine details required for NATO air-land battle combined arm tactics to be effective. For example the PLAAF puts an emphasis on dogfighting and effectively no focus on BVR tactics and operations. This can be seen when they trained with the Thai airfare, the PLAAF were crackerjack dogfighters easily besting the Thai airfare, but completely inept at BVR combat. This is a massive liability as it means most if not all the PLAAF fighters will be shot down before they ever get into what they consider to be actual combat. Beyond just their airfare training issues, their war games are still almost entirely scripted. When they do go off script, the PLA gets embarrassed every time. Come for a tank column trying to shoot down a squadron of attack helicopters, stay for a carrier group refusing to drop EMCON even as their fellow ships are being "hit" and killed by ASHMS. When they train with other nations they get embarrassed if the training isn't entirely scripted. Officers are required to spend 40% of their time studying communist party thought. This means compared to normal militaries, Chinese officers are vastly undertrained, and much more likely to blindly follow orders. Part 5 O Anonymous (ID: 1/OLAN2) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:51:04 No.278454111 >278454307 >278455226 >278464333 File: PLA grenade launcher.jpg (58 KB, 750x375) >>278454024 Do not misunderstand, the Chinese troops will march into this battle they aren't prepared for and will die in droves without ever hesitating, questioning or disobeying their superiors, but that means they are cattle for the slaughter. https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2020-02-08/plaaf-senior-pilot-reveals-poor-performance-joint-exercise-rtaf https://warontherocks.com/2015/02/the-peoples-liberation-army-on-wargaming/ To add to this suck salad of untested equipment with random un tested doctrine, we have the PLA fascination with grenade launchers and bazookas. In most militaries the squad is based around a light machine gun. For the PLA squad however are based around long range grenade launchers such as picrel, and every platoon has a PF-98 unguided 120mm recoils rocket launcher. The idea is that the squad uses the grenade launcher/modern version of the M20 super bazooka (from the Vietnam war) to kill threats, rather than using a LMG to suppress a threat. As of course a dead threat is better than a suppressed one. There are a couple of problems with this. First, the cartridge they use is 35x32, which is roughly half the size explosive as the M203's 40x46 cartridge. Second, tests on grenades showed that the 40x46 is pretty much the minimum effective round, any smaller and there is a high probability the target is not killed or incapacitated even if you get a round on target (ie close enough). Finally there is the problem of ammunition. The grenades take up significantly more volume than standard 7.62 rounds and so the PLA units will be going into battle with -1/10 the ammunition as the Taiwanese LMGS squads. Part 6 O Anonymous (ID: 1/OLAN2 ) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:52:45 No.278454307 >278454557 >>278455226 File: What the PLA would give f(..).png (170 KB, 176x483) >>278454111 This means the Taiwanese squads will be able to pin down PLA units far longer than PLA units can pin down Taiwanese squads, and given the likely ineffectiveness of the PLA's grenade launchers, the PLA units are at an extreme disadvantage. https://21stcenturyasianarmsrace.com/2019/06/02/every-chinese-infantry-platoon-have-this-recoilless-rocket-launcher/ https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Journals/Military-Review/English-Edition-Archives/May-June-2018/Basic-Infantry-Building-Block/ Next we move to armor, radio disparities, and rifle disparities. Taiwanese combat units are all given full body armor, helmet included, and most squads have their own radios. The vast majority of PLA units don't have body armor (they are literally just starting to produce enough body armor for their soldiers), and have a two radios at the company level (one for the commanding officer, one for the political instructor). What this means is that PLA soldiers will experience significantly more deaths and casualties than Taiwanese units, and the PLA soldiers will be unable to communicate effectively during battle. Image trying to marshal CAS at the company level. There are even odds you hit your own troops. Finally when it comes to rifles you might think the PLA uses an AK or some derivative, but that is wrong. Their standard service rifle is the QBZ-95 bullpen. It is chambered in a special snowflake round, which is used by exactly zero other weapon systems, and has been shown to be underpowered and inaccurate (bullpups are naturally less accurate in combat due to the weight placement allowing for easy barrel movement) in export tests. Further the PLA has completely lost faith in it as it is replacing the rifle despite it only having 20 years of service. What are they replacing it with? Part 7 O Anonymous (ID: M/OLIN2) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:54:48 No.278454557 >>278454742 >278455226 File: gbz replacement.png (1006 KB, 1167x572) >>278454307 An HK-416 clone. https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-CJB-25186 https://www.defenseworld.net/news/26395/Chinese_PLA_to_Procure_1_4_million_Body_Armor_Units_Worth_1_85_billion https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/05/18/chinese-pla-ground-forces-marines-replace-qbz-95-1-completely-new-non-bullpup-rifle/ https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/08/16/modern-intermediate-calibers-016-5-8x42mm-chinese/ For a 14 point list of why The QBZ-95 sucks see: https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/95%E5%BC%8F%E8%87%AA%E5%8B%95%E6%AD%A5%E6%A7%8D#%E7%BC%BA%E7%82%B9 Using all available landing and aerial drop capabilities: the PLAN can land -10k troops in one go, and the PLAAF can land -5k troops in one go. That means 15k combat troops deployed across 1.5 hours, with a minimum of 6 hours before a follow on landing of troops. Further the crossing will take hours and will be done under constant radar surveillance, meaning the landing zone will be known in advance by Taiwanese troops and they can rapidly deploy troops to counter this landing. Taiwan has a standing army of ~175k, and a surge of 2 million more. Thus it is highly likely that the PLA landing forces will be outnumbered, and surrounded. This means heavy casualties. Which brings up another major problem for the attacking PLA forces: medivac. As they PLA forces begin getting cut to shreds, they are faced with a stark choice: Do they reduce the rate at which they transport troops and materials to their beachheads, in order to ensure expedient medivac for their injured front lines troops, or do they let those troops die in order to bring in more fresh troops and supplies? The first option makes it more likely that the Taiwanese forces can throw the invading PLA troops into the sea, but reduces total PLA dead. The second dramatically increases PLA forces death rate, but increases the probability of a successful beach head. Successful landings are improbable using only military shipping capability. 8 I Anonymous (ID: M/OLAN2) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:56:24 No.278454742 >>278454909 >>278455226 File: IFF.png (598 KB, 670x502) >>278454557 Therefore any real chance the PLA for taking Taiwan necessitates the use of civilian ships to transfer troops to Taiwan. But this makes for an IFF cluster f--- for the PLAN and the PLAAF. Now we have hundreds of ships in theatre that do not have proper IFF, these ships will be mixed in with Taiwan's and the PLA will either not engage Taiwan's forces using BVR capabilities in which case Taiwan's navy will wreck havoc on the PLA forces, or the PLAN and PLAAF will have a shitstorm of friendly fire events at best, and at worst their missiles will primarily hit their own forces. Add on top of this the PLAAF fighters will mostly have <5 minutes time over target, and you are talking about the PLAAF pilots having to make snap decisions of firing on targets without solid IFF while actively trying to dodge the missiles headed their way. Using civilian ships is realistically a non starter due the friendly fire problem, the immediate suspension and seizure of all Chinese ships worldwide (given they are now all PLAN ships), the complete blockade of all goods necessary to sustain the invasion of Taiwan. https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/09/25/taiwan-can-win-a-war-with-chinal Part 9. Finished O Anonymous (ID: M1/OLIN2) E 19/20/20(Sun)17:57:55 No.278454909 >278455226 >>278457563 >>278465147 >>278468718 >>278477316 File: Wont somebody think of th(..).png (194 KB, 499x272) >>278454742 But anon, you forgot about China's two carriers! They'll turn the tide. 30 fighters, that have a >33% crash rate (yes, the J-15 crashes more than a third of the time it sorties) is not going to make a single change to the overall battle. What about all their missiles? Well it turns out SRBMS, MRBMS, and cruise missiles are great for fixed targets, but terrible for moving targets that are transitory in nature, such as the forces counter attacking your beachhead. The best outcome of their use is to wipe the Taiwan central C3 and hope that this gives your initial landing forces sufficient time to establish themselves. The only problem is it is a several hour trip to land troops, and this will be seen long in advance, and Taiwan has practiced scenarios where their entire leadership structure is wiped out. The missiles can be used effectively to destroy Taiwan's infrastructure, but given that the PLA is on a time limit with an invasion, given their own oil supplies are targets, and they will most likely be blockaded by the USN, they have to complete the war in 2-3months, or they will be unable to continue the fight. In summary, the PLA would have to be dumber than a stump to actually try to invade Taiwan.

O Anonymous (ID: 1/OLFN2 ) 1 09/20/20(Sun)17:44:22 No.278453341 >>278453647 >>278454013 >>278455763 >>278458702 >>278474174 File: Hope the fried rice was w(.).png (73 KB, 218x280) This is for the previous discussion of the PLA invading Taiwan. I firmly am on the side of it being an absolutely terrible idea that doomed to failure for the PLA. In order to understand why China is unable to take Taiwan, let's first look t the history of the Chinese civil war. It goes very badly for the communists at first, but thanks to the Imperial Japanese army, the KMT gets bloodied, and the communists get almost a decade to recruit, rearm, and grow without engaging in any real hostilities. Thus after WWII is over, the KMT is barely standing and the nascent CCP attacks, driving the exhausted and depleted KMT forces out of China. By 1949, the KMT has been entirely kicked out of mainland China and their only remaining area is Taiwan. So in fall 1949, the CCP begins preparing PLA army group North for the largest amphibious operation in Chinese history. However, before they are ready, North Korea invades South Korea and precedes to get their asses kicked once the UN enters on the southern side. China then counter invades to make sure no "imperialist" forces stay on the Korean peninsula, no "imperialist" air bases are formed in range of the mainland, and that the Korean peninsula be unified under the communist flag to serve as a buffer territory. To ensure this happens they send their best and most trained army: PLA army group North. Needless to say the Korean War is a disaster of the PLA. Part 1 O Anonymous (ID: M/OLIN2) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:47:03 No.278453647 >278453812 >278454013 >278455763 File: PLA 1950's taking tibet.png (306 KB, 453x304) >>278453341 Part 2 Because: Mao's heir gets napalmed while cooking fried rice army group north takes 1.4 million casualties out of 1.5 million soldiers PLA PLA army group north has to be reconstituted in its entirety Us forces remain in South Korea till this very day US air bases remain in striking distance of the mainland to this very day PLA generals publicly denounce Mao for the first and only time in CCP history. The Korean War got the PLAS best army, the only one trained in amphibious operatives completely destroyed and the CCP lost their chance to retake Taiwan and finish their civil war, which is STILL ongoing. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/korean-war-saved-taiwan-clutches-chairman-mao-142852 https://digitalcommons.Isu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2803&context=gradschool_theses Given this massive failure you'd expect the PLA to reorganize to improve deficiencies laid bare by the conflict with the UN. To take their learnings for getting their asses kicked and use it to improve their strategies and tactics. But you would be wrong. The CCP response was that their troops weren't loyal enough, and the fostered the idea of bravery as being more important that actual war fighting skill. They were trained to march into combat shoulder to shoulder, singing songs, and only engage at close distances. They were trained to never abandon the fight unless directly ordered to retreat. They were trained to use artillery in direct fire only. And many many more cases of loyalty and insanely marching straight into fights expecting their numbers to completely overwhelm the enemy. O Anonymous (ID: 1/OLIN2 ) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:48:28 No.278453812 >278453901 >278454013 >>278455763 File: 1962 aesthetic mountain f(.).png (210 KB, 513x366) >>278453647 Ironically they may have gotten this idea for the US media's misunderstanding of Chinese tactics in the Korean War, and the US media kept talking about the effectiveness of their "human wave tactics" of just throwing bodies at US positions, despite the fact the Chinese were using an infiltration strategy, infiltrating units all around UN troops and attacking from all sides simultaneously. No matter the reason, the fact that Mao enforced loyalty and foolhardiness over actual military competency leads directly to the Chinese experience in the Vietnam war, but first a brief detour into the Sino-Indian border "war". Barely 15k per side engaged in direct conflict, and casualties were likewise tiny compared to the other wars on this list being -5-7k total for both sides. In this war, it reads as an exact opposite of todays India/China conflict. China had fewer soldiers, but they were all acclimated and experienced mountain fighters (they took tibet after all). India had more equipment in theatre, but far less useful equipment in theatre. China eventually had enough of India's movements, and attacked forcing the Indians back with greater casualties. China claims they stopped because they were kind, but that is only part of the story the other part is that the PLA took as many casualties in the last 3 days of fighting as in the rest of the "war", and given the troop numbers sweeping, this was going to get worse and worse as green PLA conscripts would have been forced into the mountain fight. Overall, a similar outcome (the experienced mountain fighters prevailing) will most likely occur if Ladkah goes hot again. This is why the PLA cannot escalate any more on their border with India, and the PLA are intently familiar with this one victorious "war" and know that the cards are currently stacked against them. http://web.stanford.edu/group/tomzgroup/pmwiki/uploads/0199-2003-Burkitt-a-IEM. pdf part 3 O Anonymous (ID: 1/OLAN2) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:49:08 No.278453901 >278454013 >>278454024 >278455763 File: I wasn't kidding about th(..).png (285 KB, 597x371) >>278453812 Now to the third Indochina war. Here, Cambodia's Khmer Rouge had killed -30% of their own population and run out of people to plausibly blame for all their regimes failures. So they started abducting Vietnamese people from across the border to murder. Vietnam told they to knock that the f--- off, and the Khmer Rouge kept on going. So Vietnam invaded and proceeded to wipe out the Khmer Rouge and send Pol Pot fleeing. China had mutual defense pact with Cambodia, and came to their aid less they lose face. The PLA built up 450k troops on their border with Vietnam and Invaded. Defending Northern Vietnam were some reserve militias with ~40k troops, many women and elderly. The official Chinese goal is to march to Hanoi and Force the Vietnamese to withdraw from Cambodia, thus saving the Khmer Rouge. 3 Days into the war and a mere 5km into enemy territory and PLA supply lines are breaking, with frontline troops going without food and ammo for the rest of the duration of the war. (Yes the PLA had soldiers die of starvation in a three week war.) In the course of these three weeks, China fails to achieve the objectives they set for the first two days of the war, much less achieve the goal of marching into Hanoi itself. They further take 30k dead, many more wounded and captured. In this war we got to see Maoist fighting on the forefront. A PLA division was held up for 6 hours by a single platoon. The PLA soldiers marched shoulder to shoulder directly into a minefield and automatic gun fire. The division ended up taking a company worth dead, and three more crippled, while the Vietnamese platoon suffered a single twisted ankle. Without taking a single major objective after three weeks, getting BTFO by reserve militias the PLA turned tail and fled, from then on only threatening Vietnam, never actually attacking. The Vietnam war was their last combat experience, and it was a disaster of epic proportion. Part 4 O Anonymous (ID: 1/OLIN2 ) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:50:12 No.278454024 >>278454111 >>278455226 File: J-7 still fly even along (.).png (239 KB, 297x290) >>278453901 The doctrine they showed had no combined arms, no fire support, no maneuver elements, nothing but foolhardy arrogance to walk directly into machine-gun fire. https://silo.pub/chinese-military-strategy-in-the-third-indochina-war-the-last-maoist-war-asian-security-studies.html After the Irag war scared the s--- out the CCP, they embarked on updating the PLA. PLA, PLAN, PLAAF equipment across the board is completely different from what they used the last time they had combat. They have ZERO experience with it, and their doctrine for using it is a slapdash facsimile of what they see NATO do. But the problem is that they completely lack all the fine details required for NATO air-land battle combined arm tactics to be effective. For example the PLAAF puts an emphasis on dogfighting and effectively no focus on BVR tactics and operations. This can be seen when they trained with the Thai airfare, the PLAAF were crackerjack dogfighters easily besting the Thai airfare, but completely inept at BVR combat. This is a massive liability as it means most if not all the PLAAF fighters will be shot down before they ever get into what they consider to be actual combat. Beyond just their airfare training issues, their war games are still almost entirely scripted. When they do go off script, the PLA gets embarrassed every time. Come for a tank column trying to shoot down a squadron of attack helicopters, stay for a carrier group refusing to drop EMCON even as their fellow ships are being "hit" and killed by ASHMS. When they train with other nations they get embarrassed if the training isn't entirely scripted. Officers are required to spend 40% of their time studying communist party thought. This means compared to normal militaries, Chinese officers are vastly undertrained, and much more likely to blindly follow orders. Part 5 O Anonymous (ID: 1/OLAN2) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:51:04 No.278454111 >278454307 >278455226 >278464333 File: PLA grenade launcher.jpg (58 KB, 750x375) >>278454024 Do not misunderstand, the Chinese troops will march into this battle they aren't prepared for and will die in droves without ever hesitating, questioning or disobeying their superiors, but that means they are cattle for the slaughter. https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2020-02-08/plaaf-senior-pilot-reveals-poor-performance-joint-exercise-rtaf https://warontherocks.com/2015/02/the-peoples-liberation-army-on-wargaming/ To add to this suck salad of untested equipment with random un tested doctrine, we have the PLA fascination with grenade launchers and bazookas. In most militaries the squad is based around a light machine gun. For the PLA squad however are based around long range grenade launchers such as picrel, and every platoon has a PF-98 unguided 120mm recoils rocket launcher. The idea is that the squad uses the grenade launcher/modern version of the M20 super bazooka (from the Vietnam war) to kill threats, rather than using a LMG to suppress a threat. As of course a dead threat is better than a suppressed one. There are a couple of problems with this. First, the cartridge they use is 35x32, which is roughly half the size explosive as the M203's 40x46 cartridge. Second, tests on grenades showed that the 40x46 is pretty much the minimum effective round, any smaller and there is a high probability the target is not killed or incapacitated even if you get a round on target (ie close enough). Finally there is the problem of ammunition. The grenades take up significantly more volume than standard 7.62 rounds and so the PLA units will be going into battle with -1/10 the ammunition as the Taiwanese LMGS squads. Part 6 O Anonymous (ID: 1/OLAN2 ) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:52:45 No.278454307 >278454557 >>278455226 File: What the PLA would give f(..).png (170 KB, 176x483) >>278454111 This means the Taiwanese squads will be able to pin down PLA units far longer than PLA units can pin down Taiwanese squads, and given the likely ineffectiveness of the PLA's grenade launchers, the PLA units are at an extreme disadvantage. https://21stcenturyasianarmsrace.com/2019/06/02/every-chinese-infantry-platoon-have-this-recoilless-rocket-launcher/ https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Journals/Military-Review/English-Edition-Archives/May-June-2018/Basic-Infantry-Building-Block/ Next we move to armor, radio disparities, and rifle disparities. Taiwanese combat units are all given full body armor, helmet included, and most squads have their own radios. The vast majority of PLA units don't have body armor (they are literally just starting to produce enough body armor for their soldiers), and have a two radios at the company level (one for the commanding officer, one for the political instructor). What this means is that PLA soldiers will experience significantly more deaths and casualties than Taiwanese units, and the PLA soldiers will be unable to communicate effectively during battle. Image trying to marshal CAS at the company level. There are even odds you hit your own troops. Finally when it comes to rifles you might think the PLA uses an AK or some derivative, but that is wrong. Their standard service rifle is the QBZ-95 bullpen. It is chambered in a special snowflake round, which is used by exactly zero other weapon systems, and has been shown to be underpowered and inaccurate (bullpups are naturally less accurate in combat due to the weight placement allowing for easy barrel movement) in export tests. Further the PLA has completely lost faith in it as it is replacing the rifle despite it only having 20 years of service. What are they replacing it with? Part 7 O Anonymous (ID: M/OLIN2) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:54:48 No.278454557 >>278454742 >278455226 File: gbz replacement.png (1006 KB, 1167x572) >>278454307 An HK-416 clone. https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-CJB-25186 https://www.defenseworld.net/news/26395/Chinese_PLA_to_Procure_1_4_million_Body_Armor_Units_Worth_1_85_billion https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/05/18/chinese-pla-ground-forces-marines-replace-qbz-95-1-completely-new-non-bullpup-rifle/ https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/08/16/modern-intermediate-calibers-016-5-8x42mm-chinese/ For a 14 point list of why The QBZ-95 sucks see: https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/95%E5%BC%8F%E8%87%AA%E5%8B%95%E6%AD%A5%E6%A7%8D#%E7%BC%BA%E7%82%B9 Using all available landing and aerial drop capabilities: the PLAN can land -10k troops in one go, and the PLAAF can land -5k troops in one go. That means 15k combat troops deployed across 1.5 hours, with a minimum of 6 hours before a follow on landing of troops. Further the crossing will take hours and will be done under constant radar surveillance, meaning the landing zone will be known in advance by Taiwanese troops and they can rapidly deploy troops to counter this landing. Taiwan has a standing army of ~175k, and a surge of 2 million more. Thus it is highly likely that the PLA landing forces will be outnumbered, and surrounded. This means heavy casualties. Which brings up another major problem for the attacking PLA forces: medivac. As they PLA forces begin getting cut to shreds, they are faced with a stark choice: Do they reduce the rate at which they transport troops and materials to their beachheads, in order to ensure expedient medivac for their injured front lines troops, or do they let those troops die in order to bring in more fresh troops and supplies? The first option makes it more likely that the Taiwanese forces can throw the invading PLA troops into the sea, but reduces total PLA dead. The second dramatically increases PLA forces death rate, but increases the probability of a successful beach head. Successful landings are improbable using only military shipping capability. 8 I Anonymous (ID: M/OLAN2) E 09/20/20(Sun)17:56:24 No.278454742 >>278454909 >>278455226 File: IFF.png (598 KB, 670x502) >>278454557 Therefore any real chance the PLA for taking Taiwan necessitates the use of civilian ships to transfer troops to Taiwan. But this makes for an IFF cluster f--- for the PLAN and the PLAAF. Now we have hundreds of ships in theatre that do not have proper IFF, these ships will be mixed in with Taiwan's and the PLA will either not engage Taiwan's forces using BVR capabilities in which case Taiwan's navy will wreck havoc on the PLA forces, or the PLAN and PLAAF will have a shitstorm of friendly fire events at best, and at worst their missiles will primarily hit their own forces. Add on top of this the PLAAF fighters will mostly have <5 minutes time over target, and you are talking about the PLAAF pilots having to make snap decisions of firing on targets without solid IFF while actively trying to dodge the missiles headed their way. Using civilian ships is realistically a non starter due the friendly fire problem, the immediate suspension and seizure of all Chinese ships worldwide (given they are now all PLAN ships), the complete blockade of all goods necessary to sustain the invasion of Taiwan. https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/09/25/taiwan-can-win-a-war-with-chinal Part 9. Finished O Anonymous (ID: M1/OLIN2) E 19/20/20(Sun)17:57:55 No.278454909 >278455226 >>278457563 >>278465147 >>278468718 >>278477316 File: Wont somebody think of th(..).png (194 KB, 499x272) >>278454742 But anon, you forgot about China's two carriers! They'll turn the tide. 30 fighters, that have a >33% crash rate (yes, the J-15 crashes more than a third of the time it sorties) is not going to make a single change to the overall battle. What about all their missiles? Well it turns out SRBMS, MRBMS, and cruise missiles are great for fixed targets, but terrible for moving targets that are transitory in nature, such as the forces counter attacking your beachhead. The best outcome of their use is to wipe the Taiwan central C3 and hope that this gives your initial landing forces sufficient time to establish themselves. The only problem is it is a several hour trip to land troops, and this will be seen long in advance, and Taiwan has practiced scenarios where their entire leadership structure is wiped out. The missiles can be used effectively to destroy Taiwan's infrastructure, but given that the PLA is on a time limit with an invasion, given their own oil supplies are targets, and they will most likely be blockaded by the USN, they have to complete the war in 2-3months, or they will be unable to continue the fight. In summary, the PLA would have to be dumber than a stump to actually try to invade Taiwan.

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The end of the Great Wall of China + a hypothetic scenario

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Fall of the Qing Dynasty (1912, colorized)

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