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Overview

DoorDash Tipping Controversy refers to the food delivery service app DoorDash's pay policy for its delivery-people. The issue of DoorDash withholding tips became a topic of conversation on Twitter after a the New York Times published an article about being a delivery driver.

Background

In late April 2019, According to New York Daily News[1] Bronx Councilman Ritchie Torres introduced a bill "that would require apps like DoorDash to notify customers if gratuity is paid to delivery workers in addition to their regular wage – or if tips are put toward their base pay." The bill caused DoorDash to include the notice in fine print on their site. On July 21st, The issue of DoorDash tips began gaining traction with Twitter users after New York Times[2] writer Andy Newman published an article titled "My Frantic Life as a Cab-Dodging, Tip-Chasing Food App Deliveryman." In the article, Newman stated,

"DoorDash offers a guaranteed minimum for each job. For my first order, the guarantee was $6.85 and the customer, a woman in Boerum Hill who answered the door in a colorful bathrobe, tipped $3 via the app. But I still received only $6.85. Here’s how it works: If the woman in the bathrobe had tipped zero, DoorDash would have paid me the whole $6.85. Because she tipped $3, DoorDash kicked in only $3.85. She was saving DoorDash $3, not tipping me."

Spread

On July 21st, 2019, Twitter user @lmatsakis[5] shared the New York Times article saying, "This deceptive model should be illegal" (shown below, left). The tweet gained over 3,900 likes and 1,700 retweets in three days. On July 23rd, DoorDash Tony Xu[4] took to twitter to address the issue saying,

"After a year of research and conversations with thousands of Dashers, we built a pay model to prioritize transparency, consistency of earnings, and to ensure all customers get their food as fast as possible. But it’s clear from recent feedback that we didn’t strike the right balance. We thought we were doing the right thing by making Dashers whole when a customer left no tip. What we missed was that some customers who did tip would feel like their tip did not matter. We did not launch our current model to pay Dashers less. In fact, when we moved to it, our average contribution to Dashers stayed the same. Going forward, we’re changing our model – the new model will ensure that Dashers’ earnings will increase by the exact amount a customer tips on every order. We’ll have specific details in the coming days. Customer obsession and getting 1% better everyday are core values at DoorDash. These beliefs have led us to improvements in the past and they serve as our guide for the future" (shown below, right).

Louise Matsakis @Imatsakis I don't believe that a single person intends to give a tip to a multibillion dollar venture-backed startup. They are trying to tip the person who delivered their order. This deceptive model should be illegal nytimes.com/2019/07/21/nyr... DoorDash offers a guaranteed minimum for each job. For my first order, the guarantee was $6.85 and the customer, a woman in Boerum Hill who answered the door in a colorful bathrobe, tipped $3 via the app. But I still received only $6.85. Here's how it works: If the woman in the bathrobe had tipped zero, DoorDash would have paid me the whole $6.85. Because she tipped $3, DoorDash kicked in only $3.85. She saving DoorDash $3, not tipping was me. 1:58 PM Jul 21, 2019 Twitter for iPhone
Tony Xu @t_xu 1/ After a year of research and conversations with thousands of Dashers, we built a pay model to prioritize transparency, consistency of earnings, and to ensure all customers get their food as fast as possible. 11:19 PM Jul 23, 2019 Twitter Web Client

As of July 24th, 2019, DoorDash[3] lists a changed policy that includes a higher minimum pay than before but the delivery person still might not received their full tip (shown below).

For each delivery, you will always receive at least $1 in DoorDash base pay plus 100% of customer tips. For unusual or complex deliveries, such as large catering orders, base pay may exceed $1 C When base pay plus tip is less than the guaranteed minimum, DoorDash will make up the difference. GUARANTEED DOORDASH CUSTOMER DOORDASH TOTAL MINIMUM BASE PAY TIP ADDITIONAL PAY EARNINGS $10 $10 $1 $3 $6= + When base pay plus tip is more than the guaranteed minimum, you keep that larger amount. CUSTOMER GUARANTEED DOORDASH DOORDASH ТOTAL MINIMUM BASE PAY TIP ADDITIONAL PAY EARNINGS $10 $1 $12 $13 $0= For deliveries where a customer orders through a third party platform, DoorDash relies on that third party to provide tips collected from their customer to DoorDash. DoorDash then provides those tips to the Dasher.

Various Examples

Dwight you @ignorant_slut1 Bout to drop some knowledge: As a former DoorDash driver- let me fill you in: tip your drivers in cash or not at all 6:02 PM Jul 15, 2019 Twitter for iPhone
Alex Kantrowitz @Kantrowitz No idea how doordash gets away with this. You "tip" your delivery person, but money goes to corporate. @felixsalmon . Jul 21 Felix Salmon It's like they go out of their way to be dastardly Show this thread DoorDash offers a guaranteed minimum for each job. 1 order, the guarantee was $6.85 and the customer, a wo Boerum Hill who answered the door in a colorful bathr $3 via the app. But I still received only $6.85. Here's how it works: If the woman in the bathrobe had DoorDash would have paid me the whole $6.85. Becau $3, DoorDash kicked in only $3.85. She was saving Do not tipping me 12:06 PM Jul 21, 2019 Twitter for iPhone
Qasim Rashid, Esq. @QasimRashid Wow this is shameless wage theft by @DoorDash The company is worth $12.6 BILLION yet they literally steal tips from their delivery employees At a time of historic wealth inequality, Door Dash is making things even worse. Shame on them nytimes.com/2019/07/21/nyr... DoorDash offers a guaranteed minimum for each job. For my first order, the guarantee was $6.85 and the customer, a woman in Boerum Hill who answered the door in a colorful bathrobe, tipped $3 via the app. But I still received only $6.85 Here's how it works: If the woman in the bathrobe had tipped zero, DoorDash would have paid me the whole $6.85. Because she tipped $3, DoorDash kicked in only $3.85. She was saving DoorDash $3, not tipping me 9:14 AM Jul 22, 2019 Twitter for iPhone
Ellen Huet @ellenhuet last night, DoorDash CEO Tony Xu said the co. will change its tipping policy & add tips on top of base pay be v skeptical of the common phrasing in these policies that "100% of tips go to workers." the unsaid half is often "we pay out less when you tip" DOORDASH DoorDash Says It Will Change Controversial Tipping Policy DoorDash Inc. Chief Executive Officer Tony Xu, facing public criticism that the food-delivery company pays drivers less when they receive tips, said hi... Sbloomberg.com 1:46 PM Jul 24, 2019 Twitter Web Client
Daniella Zalcman @dzalcman Oh WOW, @DoorDash, this is next level late stage capitalism s-----. I'd like a refund for all the tips l've added to my orders since I joined in March, or better idea for you to change your policies ASAP. Jacob Turcotte @jacobturcotte Jul 22 PSA to anyone using @DoorDash - if you don't tip in cash the driver doesn't get anything! They just deduct your tip from what they pay them not what "tip" means. That's 3:26 PM Jul 23, 2019 Twitter for iPhone
JohnV as in Victor @JohnVelghe Replying to @businessinsider It is NOT an isolated case. This is my Doordash delivery from Friday. They paid me $1 to wait 15 minutes at the restaurant and drive 7 miles to the customer. The tip covered the remaining $8.69. Dash on Friday July 19 7:35 PM - 8:16 PM $9.69 1 delivery $9.69 $1.00 $8.69 $9.69 DoorDash base pay Customer tip Total 7:29 PM Jul 22, 2019 Twitter for iPhone

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External References

[1] NYDailyNews – Ritchies Torres Tipping Policy

[2] NYTimes – Doordash Delivery

[3] Doordash – Pay Policy

[4] Twitter – t_xu

[5] Twitter -lmatsakis



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Overview

DoorDash Tipping Controversy refers to the food delivery service app DoorDash's pay policy for its delivery-people. The issue of DoorDash withholding tips became a topic of conversation on Twitter after a the New York Times published an article about being a delivery driver.

Background

In late April 2019, According to New York Daily News[1] Bronx Councilman Ritchie Torres introduced a bill "that would require apps like DoorDash to notify customers if gratuity is paid to delivery workers in addition to their regular wage – or if tips are put toward their base pay." The bill caused DoorDash to include the notice in fine print on their site. On July 21st, The issue of DoorDash tips began gaining traction with Twitter users after New York Times[2] writer Andy Newman published an article titled "My Frantic Life as a Cab-Dodging, Tip-Chasing Food App Deliveryman." In the article, Newman stated,

"DoorDash offers a guaranteed minimum for each job. For my first order, the guarantee was $6.85 and the customer, a woman in Boerum Hill who answered the door in a colorful bathrobe, tipped $3 via the app. But I still received only $6.85. Here’s how it works: If the woman in the bathrobe had tipped zero, DoorDash would have paid me the whole $6.85. Because she tipped $3, DoorDash kicked in only $3.85. She was saving DoorDash $3, not tipping me."

Spread

On July 21st, 2019, Twitter user @lmatsakis[5] shared the New York Times article saying, "This deceptive model should be illegal" (shown below, left). The tweet gained over 3,900 likes and 1,700 retweets in three days. On July 23rd, DoorDash Tony Xu[4] took to twitter to address the issue saying,

"After a year of research and conversations with thousands of Dashers, we built a pay model to prioritize transparency, consistency of earnings, and to ensure all customers get their food as fast as possible. But it’s clear from recent feedback that we didn’t strike the right balance. We thought we were doing the right thing by making Dashers whole when a customer left no tip. What we missed was that some customers who did tip would feel like their tip did not matter. We did not launch our current model to pay Dashers less. In fact, when we moved to it, our average contribution to Dashers stayed the same. Going forward, we’re changing our model – the new model will ensure that Dashers’ earnings will increase by the exact amount a customer tips on every order. We’ll have specific details in the coming days. Customer obsession and getting 1% better everyday are core values at DoorDash. These beliefs have led us to improvements in the past and they serve as our guide for the future" (shown below, right).


Louise Matsakis @Imatsakis I don't believe that a single person intends to give a tip to a multibillion dollar venture-backed startup. They are trying to tip the person who delivered their order. This deceptive model should be illegal nytimes.com/2019/07/21/nyr... DoorDash offers a guaranteed minimum for each job. For my first order, the guarantee was $6.85 and the customer, a woman in Boerum Hill who answered the door in a colorful bathrobe, tipped $3 via the app. But I still received only $6.85. Here's how it works: If the woman in the bathrobe had tipped zero, DoorDash would have paid me the whole $6.85. Because she tipped $3, DoorDash kicked in only $3.85. She saving DoorDash $3, not tipping was me. 1:58 PM Jul 21, 2019 Twitter for iPhone Tony Xu @t_xu 1/ After a year of research and conversations with thousands of Dashers, we built a pay model to prioritize transparency, consistency of earnings, and to ensure all customers get their food as fast as possible. 11:19 PM Jul 23, 2019 Twitter Web Client

As of July 24th, 2019, DoorDash[3] lists a changed policy that includes a higher minimum pay than before but the delivery person still might not received their full tip (shown below).


For each delivery, you will always receive at least $1 in DoorDash base pay plus 100% of customer tips. For unusual or complex deliveries, such as large catering orders, base pay may exceed $1 C When base pay plus tip is less than the guaranteed minimum, DoorDash will make up the difference. GUARANTEED DOORDASH CUSTOMER DOORDASH TOTAL MINIMUM BASE PAY TIP ADDITIONAL PAY EARNINGS $10 $10 $1 $3 $6= + When base pay plus tip is more than the guaranteed minimum, you keep that larger amount. CUSTOMER GUARANTEED DOORDASH DOORDASH ТOTAL MINIMUM BASE PAY TIP ADDITIONAL PAY EARNINGS $10 $1 $12 $13 $0= For deliveries where a customer orders through a third party platform, DoorDash relies on that third party to provide tips collected from their customer to DoorDash. DoorDash then provides those tips to the Dasher.

Various Examples


Dwight you @ignorant_slut1 Bout to drop some knowledge: As a former DoorDash driver- let me fill you in: tip your drivers in cash or not at all 6:02 PM Jul 15, 2019 Twitter for iPhone Alex Kantrowitz @Kantrowitz No idea how doordash gets away with this. You "tip" your delivery person, but money goes to corporate. @felixsalmon . Jul 21 Felix Salmon It's like they go out of their way to be dastardly Show this thread DoorDash offers a guaranteed minimum for each job. 1 order, the guarantee was $6.85 and the customer, a wo Boerum Hill who answered the door in a colorful bathr $3 via the app. But I still received only $6.85. Here's how it works: If the woman in the bathrobe had DoorDash would have paid me the whole $6.85. Becau $3, DoorDash kicked in only $3.85. She was saving Do not tipping me 12:06 PM Jul 21, 2019 Twitter for iPhone Qasim Rashid, Esq. @QasimRashid Wow this is shameless wage theft by @DoorDash The company is worth $12.6 BILLION yet they literally steal tips from their delivery employees At a time of historic wealth inequality, Door Dash is making things even worse. Shame on them nytimes.com/2019/07/21/nyr... DoorDash offers a guaranteed minimum for each job. For my first order, the guarantee was $6.85 and the customer, a woman in Boerum Hill who answered the door in a colorful bathrobe, tipped $3 via the app. But I still received only $6.85 Here's how it works: If the woman in the bathrobe had tipped zero, DoorDash would have paid me the whole $6.85. Because she tipped $3, DoorDash kicked in only $3.85. She was saving DoorDash $3, not tipping me 9:14 AM Jul 22, 2019 Twitter for iPhone Ellen Huet @ellenhuet last night, DoorDash CEO Tony Xu said the co. will change its tipping policy & add tips on top of base pay be v skeptical of the common phrasing in these policies that "100% of tips go to workers." the unsaid half is often "we pay out less when you tip" DOORDASH DoorDash Says It Will Change Controversial Tipping Policy DoorDash Inc. Chief Executive Officer Tony Xu, facing public criticism that the food-delivery company pays drivers less when they receive tips, said hi... Sbloomberg.com 1:46 PM Jul 24, 2019 Twitter Web Client Daniella Zalcman @dzalcman Oh WOW, @DoorDash, this is next level late stage capitalism s-----. I'd like a refund for all the tips l've added to my orders since I joined in March, or better idea for you to change your policies ASAP. Jacob Turcotte @jacobturcotte Jul 22 PSA to anyone using @DoorDash - if you don't tip in cash the driver doesn't get anything! They just deduct your tip from what they pay them not what "tip" means. That's 3:26 PM Jul 23, 2019 Twitter for iPhone JohnV as in Victor @JohnVelghe Replying to @businessinsider It is NOT an isolated case. This is my Doordash delivery from Friday. They paid me $1 to wait 15 minutes at the restaurant and drive 7 miles to the customer. The tip covered the remaining $8.69. Dash on Friday July 19 7:35 PM - 8:16 PM $9.69 1 delivery $9.69 $1.00 $8.69 $9.69 DoorDash base pay Customer tip Total 7:29 PM Jul 22, 2019 Twitter for iPhone

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External References

[1] NYDailyNews – Ritchies Torres Tipping Policy

[2] NYTimes – Doordash Delivery

[3] Doordash – Pay Policy

[4] Twitter – t_xu

[5] Twitter -lmatsakis

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Ryumaru Borike
Ryumaru Borike

>Here’s how it works: If the woman in the bathrobe had tipped zero, DoorDash would have paid me the whole $6.85. Because she tipped $3, DoorDash kicked in only $3.85. She was saving DoorDash $3, not tipping me."

That is literally wage theft, they should be in court right now.

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Monster Kid
Monster Kid

Corporations NEED regulations enforced upon them. If someone tells you corporations will regulate themselves, they're bullshit and they're lying to you to pay someone who probably was one of their donors. They're everything wrong with the world today and if they keep this shit up and find more ways to manipulate the lawmakers and laws then people ARE going to get violent. And honestly I don't know if I could blame them.

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