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WHY DO ANCIENT GREEK AND ROMAN SOURCES DESCRIBE THEMSELVES AS PEOPLE WITH "NORDIC" FEATURES? Titan goddess Hera (sister & wife of Zeus) Athena (daughter of Zeus) "Even as when the lord of fair-haired Hera lighteneth, what time he maketh ready" [Homer, Iliad 750 B.C] "Let her gather the older women on the Acropolis, at bright-eyed Athene's shrine: unlock the doors of the sacred temple, and lay on the knees of golden-haired Athene" "All-powerful Hera drove these daughters in fear from the lovely halls... while still virgins, [Homer , Iliad ; 750 B.C] they entered the sanctuary of the purple-belted goddess, and said that their father far surpassed in wealth the golden-haired consort of holy, widely powerful Zeus." "Theano took the robe, laid it on gotden-haired Athene's knees.." - [Bacchylides, Epinicians ; 470 B. C.] [Homer , Iliad ; 750 B.C] Titan goddess Demeter (Sister of Zeus) ENIAYT "Vow to golden-haired Athene that you'll sacrifice at her shrine." [Homer, Iliad ; 750 B.C) "And once the golden-haired, bright-eyed goddess [Athena] made Diomedes an immortal god" [Pindar, Nemean X; 444 B.C] "So said the bright-eyed goddess and swiftly got up into the car with victory." Demeter [Hesiod, Shield of Heracles ; 700 B.C] "But golden-haired Demeter sat there apart from all the blessed gods and stayed, wasting "And blue-eyed Athene went thence to great Olympus." with yearning for her deep-bosomed daughter." [Hesoid; the homeric hymns 700 B.C] - [Hesoid; Hymn to Demeter; 700 B.C] "...and Zeus's blue-eyed daughter "when fair-haired Demeter amid the driving blasts of wind separates the grain from the chaff," [Homer, Iliad ; 750 B.C] - [Homer, Iliad ; 750 B.C] "On this Athena came close up to him and said, "Son of Arceisius-pray to the blue-eyed Apollo (son of Zeus) damsel, and to Zeus her father." (Homer, Odyssey ; 750 B.C] Dionysus (son of Zeus) "But to us, Apollo, splendid in your golden hair, grant in your own contests" [Pindar, Odes ; 472 B. C] GG "Golden-haired Apollo still loves the state of Syracuse and honors Hieron, the city's lawful 66 ruler," "And golden-haired Dionysus made brown-haired Ariadne, the daughter of Minos, his buxom wife" [Bacchylides, Epinicians ; 470 B. C] [Hesoid , the homeric hymns ; 700 B.C] G6 "The golden-haired god [Apollo] sent gentle-minded Eleithuia and the Fates to help her." "Ah me, lord Dionysus, where are you faring without your companions, shaking your golden [Pindar, Olympian; 472 B. C.] hair?" - [Euripides, Cyclops; 423 B.C] "beloved of the gold-haired god, Apollo, in fulness of heart" [Pindar , Odes ; 472 B.C] "this new deity Dionysus, a sorcerer, a conjuror from the Lydian land, fragrant in hair with golden curts" "Golden-haired far-darter, son of Zeus" - [Euripides, Bacchae; 405 B.C] [Aristotle , Rhetoric ; 367 B.C.] Artemis (daughter of Zeus) "the son of Leto [Apollo], his golden locks flowed in clusters as he moved" - [Apollonius Rhodes, Argonautica ; 283 B.C) Aphrodite (daughter of Zeus) GG "Never, never, Lady Artemis, golden-haired child of Zeus, may I endure that slavery." - [Euripides, Phoenician woman ; 411 B.C] Heracles (son of Zeus) "Aphrodite smiled upon the lovers, her yellow tresses received the tiring that was due to them" [Valerius Flaccus, Argonautica] ..and Hermione, who was fair as blond Aphrodite herself. [Homer Odyssey , 750 B.C] "ambrosial loveliness that Aphrodite wears when she goes dancing with the Graces, while as for her complexion it was whiter than sawn ivory." [Homer Odyssey, 750 B.C] "I will sing of Aphrodite, gold-crowned and beautiful, They clothed her with heavenly "..To requite him [Heracles] for all his labors in purging land and sea. If I were young and still powerful in body, I would have seized my spear and dabbled those flaxen locks of his garments: and adorned her with golden necklaces over her soft neck and snow-white breasts" with blood.." [Hesoid, Hymn to Aphrodite ; 750 B.CJ -[Euripides, Heracles; 416 BCE] "First he [Hercales] cleared the grove of Zeus of a lion, and put its skin upon his back, hiding his yellow hair in its fearful tawny gaping jaws." [Euripides , Heracles 416 BCEJ Rhadamanthus (son of Zeus) Graces (daughters of Zeus) GASDE "Our people who saw it, when they carrled fair-haired Rhadamanthus to visit Tityus" - [Homer, Odyssey; 750 B.C) (The Graces & Muses were a bunch of demi-goddeses that were commonly referred as the "daughter's of Zeus" who lived with the gods on Olympus) There yellow-haired Rhadamanthus [son of Zeus] reigns" - [Homer Odyssey ; 750 B.C) G6 "Son of Alexibias, the fair-haired Graces flare about you." Achilles (Hero) "Aiakos wears the wreath luxuriant with flowers, the gift of the fair-haired Graces." RAD PITr [Pindar, pythian; 472 B. C.] ACHILLES "Bright-eyed Muses, tell of the Tyndaridae, the Sons of Zeus, glorious children..." Calypso MAY 22 "This I heard from fair-haired Calypso, and she said that she herself had heard it from the messenger Hermes." 66 "Men say that you (Achilles] are son to noble Peleus [grandson of Zeus), and that your mother is Thetis, fair-haired daughter of the sea. [Homer, Odyssey; 750 B.C] Briseis (Trojan princess) - [Homer Liad, 750 B.C] 66 66 "Athena came down from heaven: She stood behind him (Achilles] and held him back by "For he lay in idleness among the ships in wrath because of the fair-haired girl Briseis" his long yellow hair. No other man saw her but Achilles alone. [Homer, Iliad; 750 B.C] - [Homer Liad, 750 B.C) Danaans/Achaeans (greek soldiers) "Achittes then bethought him of another matter. He went and cut off the yellow tock which he had let grow - [Homer Liad, 750 B.C) we laid you [Achilles] on your bed and cleansed your fair skin with warm water and with ointments • [Homer Odyssey, 850 B.C] Odysseus (grandson of Hermes) The "Danaans" or "Achaeans" were terms used by Homer to colectivly describe the Greek soldiers who fought against the Trojans during the Trojan war. King Priam speaks: "Now I see all the bright-eyed Achaeans whom I know well." King Priam speaks: "But those forces then were fewer than these bright-eyed Achaeans." [Homer lliad ; 750 B.C] "Thereafter they were the high lords of the fair-haired Danaans;" [Pindar, Odes ; 472 B. C.] 66 Athena speaks: "I will begin by disguising you [Odysseus) so that no human being shatl know you; I will cover your body with wrinkles; you shall lose all your yellow halr; As she spoke Athena touched him with her wand and took away all his yellow hair. G6 "... man-conquering Eriphyle became the most powerful of the golden-haired Danaans." - [Pindar, Nemean Odes 480 B.C] [Homer, odyssey ; 750 B.C] Berenice Il of Egypt Helen of Troy (Daughter of Zeus) Berenice II Queen Of Egypt The Egyptian queen Bernice II from the Ptolemaic dynasty was also blond: G6 "Berenice's Hair, which, from her glorious head, Fulgent in brightness afar...the consecrate "and among them uprose goodly Alexander, lord of fair-haired Helen;" spoils shed by a blond-hued head" "goodly Alexander, tord of fair-haired Helen, had smitten him with an arrow" [Valerius Catullus, Carmina ; 84 B.C] "Was it not for fair-haired Helen's sake?" [Homer, Iliad; 750 8.C] King ptolmey Il of Egypt 66 "It is for this that you (Helen] have cut your locks of golden hair?" - [Euripides, Helen; 412 B.C) 66 "Breast, cheek, and golden hair! ah, how grievous you have found Helen" [Euripides, Iphigenia in Aulis, 410 8.C] Menelaus Ptolemy II King Of Egypt Egypt Ptolemy II Philadelphus the Macedonian prince who ruled Egypt from 283-246 B.C also had blond hair: 66 "..of such noble sort is the flaxen-haired prince that is throne in these level plains... farewell, Lord Ptolemy; and I will speak of thee as of other demi-gods.." - [Theocritus, Idylls; 270 B.C] "Next to him, yellow-haired Menelaus son of Atreus [grandson of Zeus)" "and even so Helen dishonoured the couch of golden-haired Menelaus" "for he knew in his heart that golden-haired Menelaus would win, since he was greatest of the Achaeans, " [Homer Iliad; 750 B.C] Emperor Augustus: AUGUSTUS SAPPHO. Sappho's Family The Ancient greek poettess Sappho (who was of aristocratic origin) was dark haired (Alcaeus. fragment 55 Bergk) but her daughter Cleis is described as "a girl whose hair is yellower than torchlight" (Sappho. fragment 98a). Furthermore Sappho's eldest brother Charaxus is found described in Ovid as (flava) golden haired (Met. xii. 210). It seems then that although Sappho herself was brunette, most members of her family were in fact blonde which confirms the dominant blonde strain of the Greek aristocracy. Hiştorical tribes with blue eyes and blonde hair: © romanemperors.com The physical description of the Roman emperor Augustus by Suetonius: The Bhudini tribe: "He had clear, bright eyes, in which he liked to have it thought that there was a kind of divine power, and it greatly pleased him, whenever he looked keenly at anyone, if he let his face fall as If before the radiance of the sun; but in his old age he could not see very well with his left eye. His teeth were wide apart, small, and ill-kept; his hair was slightly curly and Inclining to golden; his eyebrows met. His ears were of moderate size, and his The Bhudini were an ancient tribe of iranian people who lived near the black sea , The Bhudini aswell as other Indo-Iranian/a---- tribes like the Scythians & Alans were commonly described by ancient greek & roman historians as having yellow/red hair. The ancient historian Herodotus gives an account of the Bhudini people: nose projected a little at the top and then bent slightly inward. His complexion was between dark and fair. He was short of stature (although Julius Marathus, his freedman and keeper of his records, says that he was five feet and nine inches in height), but this "The Bhudini are a large and powerful nation: they all have deep blue eyes, and bright red hair. There is a town in their country called Gelonus which is made out of wood. Each side of its high outer wall is thirty stades long, made entirely of wood, and wood has been used was concealed by the fine proportion and symmetry of his figure, and was noticeable only by comparison with some taller person standing beside him." for all its houses and shrines too. They have sanctuaries there which are dedicated to the (Suetonius, Life of Augustus; 69 CE) Greek gods and equipped in the Greek manner with statues, altars and buildings of wood3; and every third year they celebrate a festival of Dionysus" [Herodotus, The Histories; 440 B.cj Emperor Nero: NERO Thracians: The physical description of the Roman emperor Augustus by Suetonius: GG "He was about the average height, his body marked with spots and malodorous, his hair light blond, his features regular rather than attractive, his eyes blue and somewhat weak, his neck over thick, his belly prominent, and his legs very slender. His health was good, for though indulging in every kind of riotous excess, he was ill but three times in all during the fourteen years of his reign, and even then not enough to give up wine or any of his usual The Thracians were an ancient tribe of people who lived next to greece around the region of Bulgaria , During the Trojan war they allied with the Trojans in the war against the Greeks , In their tradition they also claim to have descended from the greek god Ares who they accepted as their patron god. The greek philosopher Xenophanes described them with blue eyes & red hair when he compared them with the Ethiopians: habíts. He was utterly shameless in the care of his person and in his dress, always having his hair arranged in tiers of curls, and during the trip to Greece also letting it grow long and hang down behind; and he often appeared in public in a dining-robe, with a handkerchief bound about his neck, ungirt and unshod." 66 "...Ethiopians are black and snub-nosed, those of the Thracians have blue eyes and red hair." (Suetonius , Life of Nero; 70 CE ] [ Xenophanes , Fragments ; 544 B.C] Dying hair blonde was a popular trend in ancient Rome: In the book Encyclopedia of Hair, Victoria Sherrow explains: GG "Hair dyes were popular in ancient Rome, and historians have found more than 100 different recipes that the Romans used for bleaching or dying hair. Light hair became fashionable after Greek culture reached Italy and the Roman legionnaires began bringing back fair-haired slaves from Gaul. Women, and some men, applied bleaching agents to their hair and then exposed it to the sun to achieve a golden or red color. Wealthier people could afford to sprinkle actual gold dust on their hair to create a blond look, as did the There are many debates to why the Romans wanted to dye their hair , most historians assume it was used mainly for prostítution which started when the Romans captured & imported female sex slaves from Celtic/Germanic tribes. ancient Phoenicians. Another way to achieve a lighter shade was to cover the hair with flower pollen and the crushed petals of yellow-colored flowers. When harsh bleaching agents caused hair loss, Roman women resorted to wigs made from the hair of blond Although another reason could simply be that blonde hair was viewed as an Aristrotic trait that may have determined a persons's social status in Roman society , To prove my point here is a complete List of Roman Emperors who had blond hair and blue eyes: slaves." Emperor Reign 27 BC-AD 14 Eye Colour "grey-eyed" (glauiet) Hair Colour Source Source Pliny. XI. 143 Pliny, XI, 142 Augustus "blond-haired" (ubflavum) Suetonius, 79 Tiberius Caligula Claudius AD 14-37 "grey blue-eyed" (coesi) AD 37-41 "golden-bearded" (aurea barba) Suetonius, 52; ef Sieglin (1935) 105 AD 41-54 "grey white-haired" (canitieque) Suetonius, 30 "grey-eyed" (yiaunóvbakiog) Malalas, X. 246 "blond-haired" (sublano) Nero Galba AD 54-68 AD 68-69 Suetonius, 51 grey blue-eyed" (coesis) Suetonius, 51 "grey white-haired" fuažoróksoc) Malalas, X, 258 "blue-eyed" (coeruleiti Suetonius, 21 Otho AD 69 Malalas, X, 259 Malalas, X. 259 Vitellius AD 69 "redheaded" (ugpáxyg Malalas, X, 259, ef Sieglin (1935) 110 "grey-eyed" (ziacóci Vespasian AD 69-79 Malalas, X. 259 Sieglin (1935) 109 Malalas, X. 262 "grey white-haired" (zokióc) wine-coloured eyes" (orvorans tonç opeakuoig) AD 79-81 AD 81-96 AD 96-98 Titus blond-haired" "grey-eyed" (yiaxóci Malalas, X, 262 Domitian Nerva "blond-haired" (aeogi "grey-haired" Day (2001) 106 Trajan Hadrian Sieglin (1935) 109 Sieglin (1935) 112 Malalas, XI, 280 AD 98-117 "golden-haired" (coesaries) AD 117-138 "dark-haired" (anavoyasta) "grey-eyed" (kaundoealuog) Malalas, XI, 277 Antoninus Pius "grey white-haired" (zokióc) "wine-coloured eyes" (onozans toeg opealuaog) AD 138-161 AD 161-180 Malalas, XI, 280 Marcus Aurelius Sieglin (1935) 110 Malalas, XII, 283, ef Sieglin (1935) 106 Lucius Verus AD 161-169 "blond-haired" (faventium) Commodus AD 180-192 "blond-haired" (ouidfavdog) "grey-eyed" fuzóykauxogi Malalas, XII, 283 As can elearly be seen from this, there was a predominance of fair characteristies, amongst the Roman ruling class. of the 18 Emperors from Augustus to Commodus: 9 had blond or red hair; 5 had grey or white hair; 3 kad no recorded kair colour, and just 1 (Hadrian), was referred to as dark-haired. of the 18 Emperors from Augustus to Commodus: 9 had blue or grey eyes; 2 had "wine-coloured eyes" (whatever that may mean), and 7 had no recorded eye colour. Although several of the Emperors were white grey-haired old men, we still possess information which depiets a few of them as light-eyed. If records had been made during their youth, it is likely that they would have been called fair-haired as well. Of the 9 Emperors who had fair hair. 5 are listed as also having light eyes, whilst the remaining 4 have no noted eye colour. Remarkably, only Hadrian is called dark-haired. but even then. he was still deseribed as being light-eyed. Strangely enouglh. for whatever reason. we possess absolutely no deseription at all of the "philosopher Emperor" Mareus Aurelius. BUT IS THERE ANY EVIDENCE MORE "SCIENTIFIC" THAN ANCIENT HISTORIANS? INDEPENDENT News InFact Election 2017 Voices Indy/Life Business Sp News Science> Archaeology Ancient Egyptians more closely related to Europeans than modern Egyptians, scientists claim However Egyptologist says he is 'particularly suspicious of any statement that may have the unintended consequences of asserting - yet again from a northern European or North American perspective - that there's a discontinuity' between ancient and modern populations lan Johnston Science Correspondent | @montaukian | Tuesday 30 May 2017 16:24 BST | Q24 comments WHY DID ANCIENT PEOPLE LOSE THEIR NORDIC FEATURES? %3D

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