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Last posted Jun 02, 2013 at 05:49PM EDT. Added Apr 26, 2013 at 01:16AM EDT
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It was probably a good idea to split this discussion away from Pony General. It was getting a little off topic over there.

Anyway, I'm also curious about the new series and how it compares to the original that I knew

Discuss.

I think my opinion of the show raised a bit when I heard the theme song of this show

Ok, they sampled from the original theme song, that's pretty awesome. This actually kinda looks fun.

After watching the first episode, I can say that I definitely enjoyed it. I think the most important thing that makes this show work is that the characters are the same as they were in the old series. Beast Boy and Cyborg are still obsessed with food, Starfire still doesn't understand Earth customs (I thought it was adorable that she thought balloon animals were round balloons with animals inside them), Raven is still there to make snarky comments, etc. I think the only one that I have not quite found an established character for quite yet is Robin. In the first half of the episode he was just bragging about making an awesome sandwich (accompanied with hilarious scenes of him at the grocery store) and then in the second half he basically didn't do anything. So I guess I'll have to wait a couple more episodes to see if he even has any defined character at all.

At first I thought this was gonna be a comedy/slice-of-life, but I was happily surprised that this is actually more of an action/comedy, so as long as we see the Titans actually going out and doing things instead of sitting around talking about their relationships and life lessons (there is a time and a place for those types of shows) then I will be happy.

The art style is alright. It looks cheap as all hell, but It has a nice bright color scheme to fit the show and I think the designs are kind of endearing.

I think this show is worth checking out. You may not like it, but it's definitely worth a watch in my book. It surprised me (although I had very low expectations), I think it will surprise you. It's not perfect, but it's definitely not the worst thing on Cartoon Network. I will say this before you give it a watch, though: If you spend the entire time comparing the mood of the original show to the mood of this spin-off, you're gonna have a real bad time. Don't go into this expecting the quality or the feel of the old show.

I can't help but feel I was somehow involved in creating this thread.

Anyway, as I've said, that new art style is not very pleasing, but I think with time I can get used to it. It appears they're shooting for mostly comedy and leaving the more serious (and epic) plots in the trash can. Not very happy about that, but with this art style, I don't think I could ever take much in this show seriously.

Now for the million bit dollar question: What are they going to do with Terra?

As this is (presumably) a sequel series to the original, I'm assuming they're gonna stick with the "amnesia and doesn't remember anything" canon and scuttle any attempts by the fans to salvage the USS Beasterra from the depths of the ocean.

xTSGx wrote:

I can't help but feel I was somehow involved in creating this thread.

Anyway, as I've said, that new art style is not very pleasing, but I think with time I can get used to it. It appears they're shooting for mostly comedy and leaving the more serious (and epic) plots in the trash can. Not very happy about that, but with this art style, I don't think I could ever take much in this show seriously.

Now for the million bit dollar question: What are they going to do with Terra?

As this is (presumably) a sequel series to the original, I'm assuming they're gonna stick with the "amnesia and doesn't remember anything" canon and scuttle any attempts by the fans to salvage the USS Beasterra from the depths of the ocean.

There isn't much reason to bring Terra into the series right now, so it's not a concern.

Personally, I'm not too big on the series right now. The art is difficult to get used to, but it isn't bad, and the comedy is rather hit-or-miss.

I'll say what I said on another site (which will be redundant with Crimson Locks' review)


If you’re expecting the original series that aired on Cartoon Network, then you’ll be disappointed.
If you’re expecting the characters to be particularly serious (especially Robin,) then you’ll be disappointed.
If you’re expecting a lot of crime-fighting action, then you’ll be disappointed.

If you’re wanting something light to laugh at, then you might like it (depends on your sense of humor. It’s not the same humor that the original had.)
If you’re up for seeing the same characters in a different light, then you might like it.
If you’re just wanting to give a decent cartoon with teens with superpowers a try, then you might like it.

Personally, I can’t wait for the next episode. I loved the original series for the stories and the depth with moments of odd humor, but I love this one for the same characters and its own kind of humor. (Raven’s dour nature is downplayed a lot, which is a slight disappointment for me, but Starfire and Beast Boy are about the same. Robin is, as I read elsewhere, an adrenaline junkie. Cyborg is only slightly exaggerated. All of their humorous lines except for BB and Star are different from what you’d expect.)

The voice cast is also the same for the main characters, so that doesn’t hurt at all.
 
 
I will say that there will need to be more depth of some sort for me to remember what time it comes on and watch it regularly. Think along the lines of Adventure Time or Gravity Falls if you’ve seen them. They’re both funny shows, but you can easily feel for their respective characters and get to like them.

That’s not done in a show like this by introducing all this heavy stuff like Raven being the key to the world’s destruction or Cyborg’s issues with being part robot and only being able to push himself so far. But instead, there will need to be occasional, well-placed scenes like where Beast Boy is legitimately down about not being able to get Cyborg the video game he really wanted for his birthday or something like (although it doesn’t happen) Robin and Starfire breaking up in a silly manner only to get back together again by the end of the episode. (That relationship appears to be a thing in this series.)

At the moment, I could see it becoming more of a parody of the original which would be bad in my opinion if they don’t think it through. It doesn’t need to be compared to the original nor does it need to be entirely different, but I think it’s best somewhere in the middle leaning towards "entirely different."

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I'll go ahead and make a quick reference here before likely never mentioning it in the vicinity again.
(Short-version: I'm going to reference ponies)

Most of us here are from the Pony General thread (sorry Cale, just ignore this), and most of us agree that the early episodes of FiM weren't spectacular. The show got better as its writers, directors, and VAs got a better feel for it and the characters they were working with. It's those later episodes that we like to love.

I haven't watched the first episode yet, but the few clips I've seen do have a certain charm to them. Give it a bit of time. The show has a sound foundation, and it can go far if the showrunners can get a good idea of where they want to take things.

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Sonata Dusk wrote:

I'll go ahead and make a quick reference here before likely never mentioning it in the vicinity again.
(Short-version: I'm going to reference ponies)

Most of us here are from the Pony General thread (sorry Cale, just ignore this), and most of us agree that the early episodes of FiM weren't spectacular. The show got better as its writers, directors, and VAs got a better feel for it and the characters they were working with. It's those later episodes that we like to love.

I haven't watched the first episode yet, but the few clips I've seen do have a certain charm to them. Give it a bit of time. The show has a sound foundation, and it can go far if the showrunners can get a good idea of where they want to take things.

I hope this thread doesn't surround me with inferior peoples.

I never watched the old series, but I saw the new episode. I pretty much feel the same as Verbose. Overall it doesn't feel like a superhero show but more of a sitcom with characters that happen to have superpowers. It's pretty decent.

Your MOM is riding a giraffe :O


As for the giraffe that has been mounted by a fictional character, I'd be simple and just say that the animators just love to throw random stuff in there like that.

But I'm trying to think if there was an episode in the original series where Raven was actually on a giraffe. Maybe Beast Boy was a giraffe in an episode or something?

Ann Hiro wrote:

Well it's targeted for children, what's there to explain?
Anyone who is targeted for children can ride anything they want.

Now, you may think "Mother Mae-Eye" is geared toward childrens. Then, think that the Mother is a hypnotizing, cannibalistic bitch who wanted to make the Titans into a pie.

We need to start a witch hunt.

I certainly remember watching the show and I'd put Teen Titans as one of my most favourite cartoons of all time, so yeah, I wanted to at least post in this thread that includes mentions to the latest Teen Titans Go series, but I'd like to ask when will I be able to get a chance to watch this? Or will I just have to view it over the internet like the latest Avatar?

I've enjoyed it so far.

It isn't really the original show, but it isn't supposed to be. If nothing else, it gives me another lighthearted cartoon to watch on a semi-regular basis.

The amount of hate it gets on Youtube, for example, is almost laughable though.

So, after watching the new episode of Go, I noticed that the new show is already making inconsistencies between their canon and the canon of the original Teen Titans.

Like for instance, when Cyborg had a small flashback from when he was a baby in the new episode, he was a cyborg. But in the old show he talks about a time when (supposedly in his earlier teens) he wasn't yet a cyborg (hell, there was a whole episode about that!)

And remember how throughout the whole series we have never seen Robin without his mask on? The show seemed to make a pretty big deal about making sure we never knew what was behind Robin's mask. Well, I guess we have to look no further than episode 2 of Teen Titans Go to know what Robin looks like without his mask.

These aren't things I am getting mad about or anything, but I find it kind of interesting that this new show doesn't seem to be sticking all that closely to the source material.


Another thing I noticed: In the old series it is never (as far as I can remember) explicitly stated that Robin used to work with Batman. The most we got was confirmation that Gotham City exists in their universe and we have also seen (through background events) that Wayne Enterprises also exists, which most likely means that by extension Batman existed. Meanwhile in the new show they have mentioned Robin's past with Batman two or three times by now.


On to discussion about the actual new episode. Well, I thought it was hit and miss this time around. The first one, "Drivers Ed", I actually found to be very funny and clever at times. And now that Robin has gotten his own episode I actually have a good feel for what his character is going to be in this show, and I like what I've seen so far. On to the next episode, "Raven's Daddy Dearest"…. Damn I really didn't like this one. I'm sure we are all aware that Raven's backstory with her father is a very dark and serious one. Not really something that would be easy to play in a comedic light without it looking really dumb, especially so early in the series. Yeah, they really didn't play the angle of Raven's daddy issues very well in this one. For one, it stopped being about Raven's daddy issues and more about the rest of the titans liking her dad and thinking she should be more like him (yeah, they were all holding the idiot ball pretty hard in this episode). There were a few good jokes here and there but the rest of it was ruined by the pretty much botched up angle of Raven's relationship with her father and… Starfire talking like a teenager… I need to go bathe, I feel too dirty.

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Le Bumpkin wrote:

The new show was a HUGE disappointment. Bad jokes, cheap drawing and animation, and, worst of all, it's an animated show with a laugh track.

The laugh track was just for the episode with Trigon. It was a joke in itself (although I don't think it worked so well.)
 
I think the show has to find its groove (as Crazy☾ said.) I think the premise is great. The characters are a bit exaggerated, I think, but they're still about the same. And I love the interactions between the Titans. I agree that the humor can be hit-or-miss, but…

This is amazing.

Crimson Locks wrote:

So, after watching the new episode of Go, I noticed that the new show is already making inconsistencies between their canon and the canon of the original Teen Titans.

Like for instance, when Cyborg had a small flashback from when he was a baby in the new episode, he was a cyborg. But in the old show he talks about a time when (supposedly in his earlier teens) he wasn't yet a cyborg (hell, there was a whole episode about that!)

And remember how throughout the whole series we have never seen Robin without his mask on? The show seemed to make a pretty big deal about making sure we never knew what was behind Robin's mask. Well, I guess we have to look no further than episode 2 of Teen Titans Go to know what Robin looks like without his mask.

These aren't things I am getting mad about or anything, but I find it kind of interesting that this new show doesn't seem to be sticking all that closely to the source material.


Another thing I noticed: In the old series it is never (as far as I can remember) explicitly stated that Robin used to work with Batman. The most we got was confirmation that Gotham City exists in their universe and we have also seen (through background events) that Wayne Enterprises also exists, which most likely means that by extension Batman existed. Meanwhile in the new show they have mentioned Robin's past with Batman two or three times by now.


On to discussion about the actual new episode. Well, I thought it was hit and miss this time around. The first one, "Drivers Ed", I actually found to be very funny and clever at times. And now that Robin has gotten his own episode I actually have a good feel for what his character is going to be in this show, and I like what I've seen so far. On to the next episode, "Raven's Daddy Dearest"…. Damn I really didn't like this one. I'm sure we are all aware that Raven's backstory with her father is a very dark and serious one. Not really something that would be easy to play in a comedic light without it looking really dumb, especially so early in the series. Yeah, they really didn't play the angle of Raven's daddy issues very well in this one. For one, it stopped being about Raven's daddy issues and more about the rest of the titans liking her dad and thinking she should be more like him (yeah, they were all holding the idiot ball pretty hard in this episode). There were a few good jokes here and there but the rest of it was ruined by the pretty much botched up angle of Raven's relationship with her father and… Starfire talking like a teenager… I need to go bathe, I feel too dirty.

"Botched" isn't the word I would use.

Verbose wrote:

The laugh track was just for the episode with Trigon. It was a joke in itself (although I don't think it worked so well.)
 
I think the show has to find its groove (as Crazy☾ said.) I think the premise is great. The characters are a bit exaggerated, I think, but they're still about the same. And I love the interactions between the Titans. I agree that the humor can be hit-or-miss, but…

This is amazing.

That was indeed a fantastic moment

And after rewatching the first episode (showing it to my brother, he didn't really care for it) I noticed in the scene in the pie episode where Beast Boy was trying to be a lawyer, he ended up getting Robin's driving instructor thrown in jail. I like little details like that. Although it makes you wonder, either a lot of time happened between those two episodes, or the guy got thrown in jail for a really short time (or he escaped).

Also, in the grocery store scene we got to see the return of Bat-O's

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This is a kids show. I don't really watch kids shows, I guess for a 15 year old it might be amusing if he was mentally handicapped. I am an adult I like porn.

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"Hey guise! I'm watching porn! That makes me soooo adult! I'm too old for toons! Amiright?"

Said every immature, underage teen ever.

Don't try so hard. You might hurt yourself

I don't have to try, I got Viagra.

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Now, I remember this show, it used to be really cool, but now its getting milked because the government is obviously abusing its powers.

[Random opinion you probably don't wanna hear]
I've seen two of the episodes, and I will say with much regret, I do actually like them (though, I'm not going to make an effort to keep up with them.)
What I don't understand is why they didn't just pick up where they left off. The final episode of the original ("Things Change") left it on a really, REALLY morose tone for me (though, in a way, it was kinda poetic, since it's TEEN Titans, and things change just like how we grow up…)
But, I mean, they have the voice actors. They have the artists. And they have the fandom that wants them. Why is this not a thing? Do Terra and Beast Boy ever get back together??

Kyntak wrote:

[Random opinion you probably don't wanna hear]
I've seen two of the episodes, and I will say with much regret, I do actually like them (though, I'm not going to make an effort to keep up with them.)
What I don't understand is why they didn't just pick up where they left off. The final episode of the original ("Things Change") left it on a really, REALLY morose tone for me (though, in a way, it was kinda poetic, since it's TEEN Titans, and things change just like how we grow up…)
But, I mean, they have the voice actors. They have the artists. And they have the fandom that wants them. Why is this not a thing? Do Terra and Beast Boy ever get back together??

Well, I think the team decided/was forced to make this new show due to a series of shorts called The New Teen Titans which was also done in a more chibi-like style (albeit still much closer to the original art style than this show) and was also much more comedic. Personally, I thought those shorts sucked monkey balls, but they were popular and so I guess CN wanted to do a full show with a similar concept

Crimson Locks wrote:

Well, I think the team decided/was forced to make this new show due to a series of shorts called The New Teen Titans which was also done in a more chibi-like style (albeit still much closer to the original art style than this show) and was also much more comedic. Personally, I thought those shorts sucked monkey balls, but they were popular and so I guess CN wanted to do a full show with a similar concept

Ah, I see what you mean. Still. If anything, I think they should have done something like Young Justice: Invasion, or Naruto: Shippuden, where we see them some years later (then they'd look kinda like in that one episode where Star time travels to the future, except it won't be all sad and stuff.)
And even though I liked the episodes, I will point out that as a series it is incessantly vapid :\ The original was about connecting with beginning/mid teens as a lot of the plot and episodes reflected problems or issues they share in real life (i.e. The Mad Mod episode is about how kids hate school, The Change episode with Star is about puberty, etc.) this series is too silly and zany to seriously connect with as you would other 'childhood' shows. So it's a safe bet to say the reception isn't even a fraction as the original, and will have to fight to keep its slot vs. other more developed series (mainly Adventure Time & Regular Show). I give it 2 seasons at best till it gets thrown to scrap. But that's just me o.o

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