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DNC Email Leak

Last posted Aug 10, 2016 at 07:57AM EDT. Added Jul 23, 2016 at 11:01PM EDT
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I figured this was a big enough news story to split off from the Presidential Election thread. For a rundown, a Russian hacker stole 20,000 emails from the Democratic National Committee and Wikileaks has been posting them.

Highlights include:

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……….. Wow.
I actually thought my tinfoil hat wouldn't see use, but for once, it's right.
Damn US Government, you REALLY want some riots, don't ya?

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This seems like the kind of stuff fictional evil organizations were inspired off of I swear like trollanort said this is unreal. The Twittere suppression is what scares me most of all. I remember hearing for ages google and other sites were suppressing anti-Hillary stuff (it was already obvious the news was doing it because it's expected, they're the news) but like wow this is getting crazy she has her hands in everyone's pockets. I can barely comprehend supporting her at this point.

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I've been wanting to say this for a long time:

The tech giants (Google, Facebook, Twitter, Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, etc) are the robber-barons of the 21st century, and they are not our friends.

Like Standard Oil and Carnagie Steel were in their time, they are hugely successful companies whose creation and growth have fundamentally transformed the global economy and the way people live. Some of this change has been positive, but it also created an unprecedented level of wealth and power, and wealth and power are very useful tools when it comes to corrupting government in the interest of securing even more wealth and power.

"Someone on KYM, right this minute, may be getting paid to shill for Hillary."

It's Lisa. It was Lisa all along!

Seriously though, this is a problem. There has long been speculation that politicians use sock puppets one social media to inflate follower counts or push narratives. It's really just a high tech version of filling the streets with actors, interns, and union members.

Fuck Hillary Clinton and the DNC. The fact that they did stuff like this is despicable. The silent majority of Hillary supporters REALLY need to be shown these e-mails, especially considering they won't hear from it on CNN, NBC, MSNBC, or any other mainstream media source, not to mention they're the type Hillary and the DNC want to keep ignorant since they're the reason Hillary won the primary in the first place.

Thepyrowasaspy wrote:

It's ironic that they laughed at an article about their poor cyber security before they got hacked and had all this leaked.

That's only the beginning of the irony:

Hey @Reince – I'm in Cleveland if you need another chair to help keep your convention in order. #RNCinCLE (Reince Priebus is the RNC chairman)

DNC Chair Won't Speak At Convention Following Email Leak

I won't even get into the whole meta-irony about email security.

Is anyone even slightly surprised?

Shit like this is commonplace in politics. Virtually every candidate is up to something like this; the ones that appear more honest are just better at covering their tracks.

Not to mention that Clinton in particular is one of the most shamelessly corrupt out there – she's been known to do things like this for a long time. Clinton without a doubt falls into the "bad at covering tracks" group.

Someone on KYM, right this minute, may be getting paid to shill for Hillary.

With all the diehard Sanders and Trump supporters here? Naaaah. I don't think I've ever even seen anyone here support Hillary for any reason beyond "at least she's better than Trump" (and even that has died down with revelations like this that call that statement into question).

I'm certain that any Clinton astroturfing was confined to larger sites like Facebook and Twitter. Relatively small sites like KYM aren't as politically significant, and thus fly under the radar.

Snickerway wrote:

Is anyone even slightly surprised?

Shit like this is commonplace in politics. Virtually every candidate is up to something like this; the ones that appear more honest are just better at covering their tracks.

Not to mention that Clinton in particular is one of the most shamelessly corrupt out there – she's been known to do things like this for a long time. Clinton without a doubt falls into the "bad at covering tracks" group.

Someone on KYM, right this minute, may be getting paid to shill for Hillary.

With all the diehard Sanders and Trump supporters here? Naaaah. I don't think I've ever even seen anyone here support Hillary for any reason beyond "at least she's better than Trump" (and even that has died down with revelations like this that call that statement into question).

I'm certain that any Clinton astroturfing was confined to larger sites like Facebook and Twitter. Relatively small sites like KYM aren't as politically significant, and thus fly under the radar.

I think everyone knew politicians were this corrupt but they probably had that one part that thought they were just being paranoid. This crushes that little part that was left. They didn't have a whole lot of evidence either was mostly just speculation and hearsay.

Farm Zombie wrote:

So, how long till Schultz is out on her ass? Month's end?

Nah. She'll probably remain as chairwoman through November. If the Democrats win, she can resign having validated the sleazy methods through victory. If the Democrats lose, she can be the scapegoat.

The party has publicly marginalized her, but with the elections less than five months away I can't imagine they can afford to replace her. The other people prominent in these emails are more expendable in the short term.

Of course, that's without knowing how the convention is going to play out.

Colonel Sandor wrote:

Nah. She'll probably remain as chairwoman through November. If the Democrats win, she can resign having validated the sleazy methods through victory. If the Democrats lose, she can be the scapegoat.

The party has publicly marginalized her, but with the elections less than five months away I can't imagine they can afford to replace her. The other people prominent in these emails are more expendable in the short term.

Of course, that's without knowing how the convention is going to play out.

Ding dong this twilight zone of a reality is here

She's stepping down after the convention.

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Mom Rivers wrote:

Ding dong this twilight zone of a reality is here

She's stepping down after the convention.

Wow. So the leak is as bad as it appears to be. I'm always wary of gauging how much of an impact these type of events have on public consciousness based on social media activity, since social media is a notorious echo chamber, but this is an indication the outrage is real and broadly shared.

If this was done to take the oxygen out of the Philadelphia protests which are already underway I don't think it will work as it cements the perceptions of corruption and dishonesty, will give the Sanders' supporters the smell of blood in the water, and propels the story into the next news cycle while making it even harder for the media to ignore.

Steve wrote:

How did it all end up like this.

My guess as to the media control:
After 2 years of having the presidential seat the Democratic national convention had a large control of the media. With the rise of SJWs and the rest of the Regressive-left they voiced large scale support almost entirely for the democratic party. This resulted in multiple media and news outlets going "Progressive" in which they altered their core ideas to favor the regressive-left's ideals more. This leads to a far left-leaning control of most of the media and news outlets.

As to why they chose Hillary:
She is the very essence of a establishment career politician. She took all the bribes and used the money to bribe other people in the DNC to support her. With the rise of Trump the people in the DNC who didn't take bribes probably saw the threat Trump was to the entire system of government. So that further pushed them to try an unify the party. I imagine considering her behavior, she has been working her own people into the system to try and get the nomination for a long time.

So combination of Money, Manipulation, and Trump lead to this level of corruption in the DNC at least in favor of Hillary.

Republicans were in a similar position during the Bush 2000-2008. They had a large control of the media and the narrative that the people heard. But the rise of the internet kinda poked holes in the whole system and it deflated as they couldn't control the internet during this game. Hillary does have that, which is why she has been planting people and bribing social media websites to favor her.

This is going to be the greatest week.

Debbie booed off the stage as officials call for calm and repeatedly tells the crowd to "settle down".

CA delegates at their DNC state breakfast pounded on the tables, chanted "Bernie!", booed Hillary, and started a resounding "count our votes!" chant. Speaker asks "are we a Democratic family here" and they yell NO!

First major DNC protest with the catchiest chant yet imo – "hell no, DNC, we wont vote for Hillary" – sees thousands of Bernie supporters marching in extreme heat.

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GroknakTheBarbarian wrote:

So, how long until this os blamed on sexist gamergate dudebros?

It's already been blamed on GamerGate. I linked to the story over in the GG thread where it belongs.

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So is there any evidence that Sanders was sabotaged against beyond the AMEN email?

Not asking out of skepticism but because I am way too lazy to sift through 20,000 eamils to win an internet argument.

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Greyblades wrote:

So is there any evidence that Sanders was sabotaged against beyond the AMEN email?

Not asking out of skepticism but because I am way too lazy to sift through 20,000 eamils to win an internet argument.

There was a report of a super pac that was set up to pay people on social media to bash him.

I personally like Silverman more as an actress than as a comic anyway (if you're looking for a quirky female comic, check out Maria Bamford, she's been in Adventure Time, Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Louis, and Arrested Development). Meanwhile I have no opinion on Franken to begin with.

DNC remembers the US flag after various media outlets heckled and mocked the convention for not featuring a single American flag on stage or anywhere else in the convention center, although attendees eagerly waved Communist and Palestine flags for the cameras.

Meanwhile…..

Steve said:

How did it all end up like this.

If I had to guess, I'd say it's because political parties have become less about the ideologies that supposedly unite the people and more about the people running for office. Pretty much everyone in the DNC wanted Clinton and likely wanted to get a government position somewhere if she won--I mean, they were emailing each other lists and spreadsheets of positions and people to be considered for those positions. They've all worked hard over the years to brownnose and scratch backs and are expecting to be rewarded like good little cronies.

Sanders was a threat to all that. He didn't care about the DNC or all the back scratching they'd been doing for years. So, they wanted to tilt the pinball machine a little just to make sure all their work wasn't for nought. I can only imagine what those in the RNC tried to do with Trump.

We've pretty clearly turned this into DNC General. What does Bernie Sanders texting "that's what Donald Trump wants" to voters who reject Hillary have to do with the leaks? Or Sarah Silverman's spiel against Bernie voters for simply continuing to exist?

So what are you guys' theories on why Bernie flipped? Do you think he finally caved into the money or no? I think it's more just he wants to keep his career, but then again by supporting Hillary against all odds he basically is nailing his career's coffin he would have been massive if he protested this with his supporters and went independent or something. I mean what loyalty does Bernie have to the DNC? It makes sense for most politicians to bend over to the establishment but in his case no.

I'm not that politically savvy though someone else more experienced with the game here might have a better idea. So far there's no proof he has been bribed or coerced because the emails would most likely reveal that. It has something to do with loyalty but I don't know what exactly.

Slutty Sam wrote:

So what are you guys' theories on why Bernie flipped? Do you think he finally caved into the money or no? I think it's more just he wants to keep his career, but then again by supporting Hillary against all odds he basically is nailing his career's coffin he would have been massive if he protested this with his supporters and went independent or something. I mean what loyalty does Bernie have to the DNC? It makes sense for most politicians to bend over to the establishment but in his case no.

I'm not that politically savvy though someone else more experienced with the game here might have a better idea. So far there's no proof he has been bribed or coerced because the emails would most likely reveal that. It has something to do with loyalty but I don't know what exactly.

He's desperate to beat Trump and sees Hillary as his only option. I imagine he figures not supporting Hillary will fracture the party's voters and guarantee a Trump victory.

Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to realize that Hillary's campaign is already boned, and that few of the pro-Bernie crowd will even consider voting for her wether he supports her or not. IMO, his best option at this point would be splitting with Hillary and painting himself as a candidate better able to defeat Trump in the wake of the email scandal in an attempt to seize the liberal voters from Hillary, but even that would be a very risky strategy.

>DNC Delegate caught on camera admitting Complete Gun Ban is the End Game

>“Saying you want to ban guns altogether, that’s going to piss everybody off,” the Clinton alternate delegate, Mary Bayer, told a Project Veritas reporter.
>“You have to take that sort of moderate… ‘We just wanna have common sense legislation so our children are safe!’” Bayer told the reporter, adding, “You say shit like that, and then people will buy into it.”
gun control get out reeeeeeeeeee

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