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Also Pokemon is Pokemon, Ponies are not. Cant compare em

Pokemon. Ponies
TV show. TV show
Kids cartoon. Kids cartoon
Based on a popular franchise. Based on a popular franchise
Cute colorful characters. Cute colorful characters
Teaches morals and lessons on friendship. Teaches morals and lessons on friendship
Humongous fan following. Humongous fan following
Tons of meme mutation. Tons of meme mutation.
Recognizable across the internet. Recognizable across the internet
Fan conventions. Fan conventions
Merchandise. Merchandise
Costumes. Costumes
Porn. Porn
Adult toys. Adult toys

There. Compared.

Is this form serious?

You know you can't do shit like this or else a the biggest shitstorm will happen.

Protip: link the actual image, not the page it is on. Fixed it for you -BSOD

Touche. Still not watching ponies.

In my honest opinion, I'm not a brony. I tolerate all of the MLP things, but you can't make me love it. That doesn't mean I hate it, either, it just means I'm indifferent.

Everyone has their stance on MLP, and mine is preferring to stay in the sidelines, watching others like/hate it.

Who the fuck bumped this thread.

This actually reminds me of a comment I made a while back when there was a post about MLP in the Cringeworthy thread that I think I should bring up

Well, My Little Pony might end in 5 years, Pokemon WILL last forever.

Hmmm, read through your rant on that video. Couple things I wanna note:

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a Brony, aside from the fact that it's a show targeted towards children.

There's nothing wrong with having a fandom for a childrens show either. There are many, many fandoms over childrens shows

Whenever someone says "Oh, I don't like MLP, that show is for little girls" you flip your shit as if someone called your mother a whore.

Yea…that happens, Unfortunately. Bronies are a such an overdramatic bunch

I remember seeing lots of those types of comments in the first year where peoples response to negative comments was "omg its real good just watch it! Heres episode 1!" and those were pretty cringeworthy. Good news is that I seen significantly less of those over the years.

I'm trying to set a good example to others. When people say "I don't like MLP", I just say "okay". Seems to be working. At least on KYM most Bronies reactions to negative comments are acceptance at best and a downvote at worst . Used to be a lot worse.

But also note that when people say "Oh, I don't like MLP, that show is for little girls" they are also saying the show is for little girls and that invites someone to challenge that. So even if Bronies may not care that you don't like the show, but they'll still argue on the little girl part. Resulting in the same old flame wars.

Here's another thing to consider: Bronies get people coming to them 24/7, day after day saying "I don't like this show". Even when they didn't even mention MLP. Some people do this just from seeing an MLP avatar and feel compelled to give an anti-MLP rant. I know some idiot Bronies need to be told that, but the majority already get it. Yet they get forced to answer for it time and time again. It gets tiring. It's reaching a point where people are forced to assume that those who constantly come complaining to Bronies are just whoring for attention and will be treated as such

The key is to teach Bronies that they don't have to be on the defensive all the time. They don't need to try and defend their hobby from anyone. But also teach non-bronies that they don't need to have a vocal opinion on it

saw this little girl, maybe about 6, looking at the MLP toys, Twilight, specifically. When she found it, it was the last one. However, two men snatched it right out of her hands

Wow, those guys are assholes.

One other thing that really makes me angry is the sheer amount of overflowing pictures of ponies literally all over the internet. It's seriously like I can't go anywhere without ponies in some way. There should be a rule

It already is a rule of the internet. Just like I cant go anywhere around the internet without seeing pictures of Homestuck, Pokemon or Transformers. But I deal with it. I see images for every fandom just as much as every other. But I just realize them for what they are: just pictures. I don't let them bother me. I simply realize that people have the right to create whatever fan content they want at any volume. It's a free internet. But that's just me

Imagine there's a fandom you hate, say the haters of the bronies were a fandom. Say they spammed the internet with a vocaloid saying something against the bronies, and then say for every advice animal or meme, they edit it to where they are saying how the bronies are poisoning our minds. Keep that in your mind. Now turn the tables back on our end. This is how we feel when there are countless pictures of ponies, and ponified versions of everything.

That would be pretty annoying if anti-bronies did that. But that would be even more obnoxious than what the bronies are doing because that would be built purely out of petty spite and aggression to purposely attack people and get in faces

Bronies ponify things only because it's fun and enjoyable for them. They don't do it just to get into your face. It's not to spite people. Nor to convert anything. It only gets everywhere because of the volume of it. But people really shouldn't be taking it so personally. Ponification is not an attack on anyone. It only wastes your time if you choose to focus so much on it

Whenever we try to tell you how we feel, even if we're trying to help you, you take it as we're being butthurt and don't listen to a word we say.

Yea, that's also true. Again: drama queens who need to be taught that they don't have to protect and shield the fandom

I took my time to call Hasbro, and complain, because that day, 7 kids tried to convert me into a brony.

Why did you complain to Hasbro about Bronies? They don't endorse bronies and shouldn't be held responsible

Don't blame it on me, fool. Look at the post dates. The people bumping this thread are the ones with posts following a 24 hour gap

O RLY?

That's my brotha, BSoD.

And of course, poor OP can't have an opinion. I'm sorry that every gets so butt-hurt over something so little, OP. It's just a fucking kids show. Bring the down-votes on, I probably can't have an opinion either.

Damn, this thread got serious. It all started out so fun and now you guys are having actual discussions. I'll say this: Every fandom is going to have haters no matter what. If you complain about the haters, then you're wasting your time.

Alright, listen here, kiddos, let ol' Uncle Fridge tell you about the time he was a brony.

It was the summer of 2011, and I was bored as all darn heck and looking for something to do. One day I moseyed into the IRC channel and chatted up a couple of these brony fellers and hey, they seemed like real nice folk! Now, I was always pretty nervous about trying new things, especially a cartoon show made for little girls, but I was looking to kill some time and decided hey, why don't I try this show out?

So I watched the first season, and I thought to myself, "okay, this is a decent show, I really like the art style." And that, ladies and gentlemen, was the hook that caught this ol' snapper: the art, namely, the _fan_art. There was soooooo much. And it was all. So. Fuckin. Quality. I was absolutely enthralled, so enthralled, in fact, that I went through the entire image gallery on the MLP entry in a single August night. (This was back when it was under 1,000 images, I think.)

So I became a brony. Soon I also found out that my best friend at the time was also a brony. What are the odds? (High, we were a couple of introverted nerds on the internet in 2011, it was impossible to be unaffected). I stuck around for the next year or so, enjoying myself, watching the show, socializing, looking at all the arts, reading Equestria Daily, and so on. I wasn't telling people I was a brony because I was already "that guy" at school and I didn't feel like committing social suicide, but it was a fun thing on the side. Then things started to change.

I think it was around when Derpy Hooves' voice was changed in reruns of that one Applejack episode when the tone of discourse among bronies began to shift. The fandom had finally achieved an enormous level of recognition from the show's creators and had it yanked away in the name of political correctness. The positivity that drew me in initially gave way to vitriol and backlash and suddenly friendship wasn't magic anymore. After this it seemed like pornographic materials became much more prevalent. I'm sure you all know how far it goes. Basically, when you start to see a community devolve into discussions of "crotchboobs," "bronycon orgy," and this thing-

-you start to wonder what you're doing here.

To be honest, all this isn't even what made me leave. It was Twilacorn. I didn't like the direction the show was going in, I didn't like the direction the fandom was going in, and I felt like Season 3 was trying to wrap things up. There was also an art drought that summer, and I think I was getting into Homestuck at the same time, and when I saw the Equestria Girls thing I think I was finally sufficiently embarrassed with myself for liking this thing. The phase ended.

I didn't read through the thread so I don't know if he responded, but I feel like OP is intimidated by the show because he doesn't understand why something inherently female is being consumed by so many males. Basically, I don't think OP's problem is with MLP, I think it's with the people involved with it. Let me say that the bronies are not typified by the unsavory characters that make up their public persona. It's just that there seem to be an absolute glut of unsavory characters.

Think of it this way: this show was not made for you. This show was designed as a reestablishment of a brand designed to sell little girls toy ponies. L. Faust came along and decided to give it a feminist bend along the way, and I'm very glad she did that. Women and girls need to see that there is no right way to be female. They need to have their own media that exists outside of patriarchal hands, that they can call their own, that they can point to and say "We have this, this is ours, and you can't take this from us."

FiM was supposed to be this, to a minor degree. No one expected it to appeal to males in the way that it did. At a point, however, bronies ceased to be a periphery demographic and attempted to make the entire franchise cater to their desires. That is what I find most abhorrent about this whole deal. It does not challenge manliness, as so many writers over the last four years have asserted. Instead, it challenges women. Truly, bronies are still very masculine because they continue to do the one thing men have always done: attempt to subject femininity to their will.

Or maybe the OP's just sick of pony spam, I don't know.

TL;DR – bronies r dum, Women's Studies 101 gesticulation, rip me to shreds like one of your French ponies, I just spent an hour writing this and it's 3 AM so I don't give a fuck about your responses.

Now ol' Uncle Fridgey's going to bed. Nighty Night.

I don’t think OP’s problem is with MLP, I think it’s with the people involved with it…

I did! Just now!

Someone says they like ponies and everyone flips their shit
Someone says they hate ponies and everyone flips their shit
wat

Trust me it's always been this way.

Nice post, Fridge. It illustrates the most major problems in the fandom quite well.

I still like the show for what it is. It would be possibly the only fandom I participated in with such immersion and attention. Most likely the only fandom where I am this active on and in. (Like fucking all day if I ever get a chance for years).

I am a Warhammer 40k fan too and that is the runner up for time consumption that I spend my time on and it does not come close to poni (If the newer generations are just as good/better then G4 then I might be on the ride for life).

People have opinions I can respect that, some people hate Anime, Pokemon, Warhammer 40k or whatever just as much as others hate pony. I can respect that it's not everyone's cup of tea, because in the end it's really just an opinion and everyone has one. But don't say that an opinion is being oppressed if some one else's disagrees with it, because that would be oppressing their opinion as well.

Just like my opinion, someone's opinion on mine would think mine is shit, and that is okay. Keep in mind all fandoms have these kinds of pervert/cringeworthy things in them too.

Also I guess up/downboats is a quicker/lazier way to disagree/agree with one's opinion even though the karma system was not coded for such a purpose.

TL;DR: That's just your opinion, m8.

I'm surprised this thread hasn't been derailed yet.

It's probably because this matter is something people have had the need to talk about here. At least I think so. It's not something you could bring up in the Pony General that easily either, at least without the subject getting derailed soon by people posting images.


I don't hate ponies myself, and I don't mind people who hate them.

But what I do mind, are bronies who force ponies everywhere, and haters who automatically hate people just because they happen to like something they don't. Rabid fans are as bad as rabid haters in my opinion. But civility is something that can't always be expected when on the internet.

I used to be a big fan, and was relatively popular fanartist back in the day, but I'm just not that interested anymore. There are better shows to watch, and more fun stuff to draw than just ponies.

But I guess the biggest factor to drive me away from ponies, was the fandom itself. Like I always say, I still have a lot of respect for the old friends I've made during my time in the fandom, especially here on KYM, but I just don't care that much about ponies anymore.

I still watch the new episodes with my gf, and see to some quality fanart on dA, but that's about it.

Was this thread ever ON the rails?

Well it can get annoying when, especially a while back, when a non fandom site as this gets dominated by ponies "memes" (more like in jokes IMO). There is a reason they added the show fewer ponies button.

On the subject of ponification I don't understand it really shouldn't bother me but I just intensely dislike it. I really don't want it to annoy me but something about it does. It may be because that one of the things I personally really do not like about MLP is the art/animation style. It just puts me off.

Also I think fandoms in general now can get away with dismissing criticism because 'a hater said it' or whatever and this seems to be one of the worse for this.

i'm not gonna lie i tried to get into my little pony and truth be told i actually found some of the jokes funny. But then i met the bronies. Good god. I mean they tried so hard to put it everywhere. They wanted to shove it down everyone's throat. And anyone who dared to object or express their dislike of the show received unbelievable amounts of hate. Then there was the absolute snobbery of a good chunk of the fanbase who believed that they were cultured or had more refined tastes because they watch a show that wasn't intended for them
But now i know that all bronies aren't like that. And that this all has died down but the impression has been left. And i can't stand the show and i want nothing to do with it. It so bad that it irks me to no end to see mlp related images in non-mlp galleries

Thanks, I thought it would have been nice for people to see the perspective of someone who's been on both sides of the debate, and I think it's probably the most articulate thing I've ever written on this silly forum. For some reason the issues surrounding FiM is still one of the few things I'm willing to write an essay about.

That reminds me of this classic.

Why do you care so much? You keep saying people shouldn't bump the thread if they don't want to see the thread, but if you don't want to see the thread you could just not click on it instead of making a comment telling people not to bump the thread. I certainly don't check every new thread on this site, and I sure don't see why anyone else would.

Why don't we just leave this alone and say that everyone has a vested interest in this thread for one reason or another. For instance, I'm only here because I feed off the drama created by bumpestered horse advocates.

@Fridge

Don't you mean the bumpestered horse detractors? Because I'm seeing way drama coming from them than the advocates

i posted an image in the mlp gallery showing my dislike of the show

@Fridge

Where to begin… where to begin indeed…

Okay… your first few paragraphs are irrelevant since they really aren't that important. So, let's pick it up from the Derpy incident, shall we?

You say that the positivity of the fandom was shattered and in its wake was bitterness and anger. This would be fair enough had the fandom had truly innocent origins. I'm sure you're aware of the starting point of the fandom. About how it all started on 4chan. And how it was used to annoy the hell out of anyone who disagreed with it for no other reason then to see those people angry. That sounds pretty bitter itself, doesn't it?

No, it sounds to me that the negativity was always there, you just blinded yourself to it. That's really your own fault, isn't it?

You go on to say that it seems like pornographic content was on the rise after this event. I'd ask you to share some form of documentation or factual evidence to support your claims. You see, porn has been around of FiM since the show first premiered. With anything, as time went on, the number grew. Therefore, by the time the whole Derpy thing happened, there would have already been a noticeable amount of porn on the internet. If you only noticed it after your delusions were shattered, that's (once again) your own fault.

Also, the whole 'devolving' thing? Where the hell are you looking? It's no wonder you found so much porn, it sounds like you were actively looking for something to be offended about. Most of everywhere refuses to delve into such areas. Unless you're looking in unsavory places. But if that's the case, then (ONCE AGAIN) your fault.

Personally, I'M starting to wonder exactly what you were doing in the fandom. Because from over here, it doesn't sound like anything you claim to have loved about the show.

About the Twilicorn thing. That's actually pretty fair. You didn't like the direction. Can't fault you for that. Congratulations on not having a flawed argument.

I do feel the need to point out that Homestuck is pretty shit though. That's not relevant to this discussion though, so I'm not deducting points from this argument for it.

The unsavory characters bit. Well, that's to be expected. Consider the following. Suppose a minimal 1% of the fandom enjoys and creates unsavory content. With a group as large as the FiM fanbase, it can be assumed that even 1% is a noticeable amount. Thus, it's to be expected that you'd see something you're uncomfortable with.

I suppose you'd prefer that it didn't exist. Well, I've always wished stupidity would just up and vanish. Between you and me, I think my wish is far more reasonable.

Now, the next few parts are interesting, and I was eager to get to them.

It's true that the show was designed to reestablish a toy line and that Faust put a spin on it. But that's roughly the area your statement stops being anything remotely close to intelligent.

Your entire argument seems to believe that the male members who enjoy the show are ruining it for women everywhere. That they're taking it and corrupting it to make it something vile in order to defeat the ideals of strong women everywhere. Now, before you get a social justice boner, allow me to rebut the argument.

You do realize that there are many females in the fandom who consider themselves to be bronies, right? Yes, despite finding yourself surrounded by sweaty, smelly, obese, neckbearded guys, that is not the case elsewhere. And guess what? None of them give a shit about any of this 'oppress women' shit you're spouting. They just want to watch a show about colorful horses. Yet your head is so far up your own ass that you can't see this as anything but malevolent.

It seems like on your trip back from tumblr, you managed to bring a lot of it here. So, fuck you and your tumblr bullshit.

Or maybe you're just incapable of logical thought, I don't know.

TL;DR – Stop being lazy and read why your opinion is terrible.

Edit: For those of you who have made it this far. I've heard many opinions that this thread should be locked. I'm going to wait until tomorrow to hear a good reason it shouldn't.

@HolyCrapItsBob
This is basically a circlejerk thread. Just the internet and its pony obsession. I don't see any reason to lock. Because this thread is a meta thread about bronies more than the show or anything.

But really guys? How did you even make this far? Is there seriously nothing better to talk about? Why should i give a shit if somebody is liking a show or not? Why it should bother me? Questions questions..

@Alex

I've come to the conclusion that sometimes people just need something to bitch about as a form of therapy

Wether it's Beiber, or Furries, or Homestucks, or Nickleback or Lady Gaga or even Bronies. It doesn't matter how good or bad it is overall, some people just need something to bitch and moan about for whatever arbitrary reason. It makes people feel better or even vindicated. There's no better place to do that than some forum thread.

I should know. I used to be a profound vocal hater of Beiber and Twilight and that's all it was about: Just looking for reasons to be upset with something that doesn't affect me to make myself feel superior ranting about it to others and having others agree.

I've let this thread stand as part of a "let the whiners whine" policy. They can have their opinions, complaints, grudges and of course circlejerk. Let them get it out of their system. Besides, If we can have a pony thread, then we can have a pony hate thread.

I really don't care about much the points being made, since much of it is just outsider perspective formed on cherry picking and self affirmation with little concurrent experience

I probably would have created a thread like this a few years ago.

Of course, my hate was not for the show itself, but for the extremely vocal minority.

You may know them. They were the jerks trying to force it into everything whether we wanted it or not. Now, people know when it's not wanted.

Edit: For those of you who have made it this far. I’ve heard many opinions that this thread should be locked. I’m going to wait until tomorrow to hear a good reason it shouldn’t.

Well I guess this thread is going to get locked than. I would like to thank all the bronies and anti-bronies for all the LULZ and the mods for allowing this thread to stay open for as long as they did and for generally being cool guys.

I think we may have found….

the ULTIMATE TROLE OF 2014